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I keep hearing rumors how many ranchers will need to start putting down animals as the processing plants are down. What a waste.
Anyone got a contact to ranchers able and willing to sell whole sides? I can't process the meat so this would need to be done by a butcher. Looking for a pick up from butcher service. Have 1/2 of an empty freezer, volume to be determined.
What kind of meat? I can give you information to someone that has pigs, and they're up north.
Colorado Osprey
04-27-2020, 05:47
Beef is exact opposite... ranchers are slaughtering non-finished winter cattle for customers at small cutters so they can get ground beef because demand is so high. Worst time of year to slaughter, no fat and people are paying $8 a pound for ground. If the slaughter houses don't get back up and running is see this getting to be even more common.
cableguy11
05-19-2020, 12:44
What kind of meat? I can give you information to someone that has pigs, and they're up north.
PM me the details or post them...I could go for a piggy!
PM me the details or post them...I could go for a piggy!
I'll post it, in case anyone else is looking up north. They have chickens, eggs, KuneKune hogs. Here's their facebook, and even if you don;t have FB, you should be able to see the contact information on the front page.If not, I'll copy and paste it here.
https://www.facebook.com/HighOnTheHogFarmLLC/
encorehunter
05-20-2020, 04:30
On craigslist, there is a pig farmer bringing in truck loads of fat hogs from Nebraska and selling them for $120 each. At the sale down here, fats are going for around .60 per pound. The nice thing about hogs is, you don't have to hang them for any length of time, as there is no benefit like beef. Bleed them out, skin them and process. If you mess up a cut on a roast, you just get a little more sausage. Our processors down here are booking in January now. It may be a benefit to find a friend who butchers their wild game and maybe trade half the meat for them to process the animal.
For COS, there is this recent article https://gazette.com/life/find-quality-meat-in-colorado-springs-from-nearby-ranches-farms-and-butcher-shops/article_88ab646e-93c9-11ea-9ddf-47aa43c8770c.html
Which curiously doesn't mention Andy's Meat Market on Platte or Ranch Foods Direct with their two locations.
cableguy11
05-20-2020, 12:01
I'll post it, in case anyone else is looking up north. They have chickens, eggs, KuneKune hogs. Here's their facebook, and even if you don;t have FB, you should be able to see the contact information on the front page.If not, I'll copy and paste it here.
https://www.facebook.com/HighOnTheHogFarmLLC/
10-4 got it. Thanks
buffalobo
05-20-2020, 15:29
I believe this is his FB page.
https://www.facebook.com/Franke-Farm-Colorado-409152315787880/
buffalobo
05-20-2020, 19:06
That sets up an interesting circumstance. I think Mrs bo gonna want to try work something out.
Did you see the post about hook up on pigs?
I have a big trailer and meat cutting and packing equipment.
I have a feeling you're going to be everyone's favorite person soon...and your freezer will be filled with barter meats!
The only thing to fear,is fear itself.
-John
The only thing to fear,is fear itself.
-John
Mighty glib.
Meat prices are rising almost daily. I was speaking with an insider and they were saying the next two weeks will be absolute hell on meats and food prices, because the restaurants will be opening up again and the availability of meat will be drastically reduced from what it is already.
Sam's club has ground beef 10# rolls at $5.38/pound. The full pork loins are now $3.58/pound. Three to four weeks ago, they were $1.38/pound.
I'd say that warrants concern.
You may be contributing to the fake sense of everyone be scared, The GreY,
-John
Everyone does not have to be scared.
This is normal life.
-John
Scared does not equal concern.
This thread is about finding sources of local meat- and part of the concern is the swiftly rising and equally swift disappearance of meat sources that were normal venues for groceries.
Let me spell it out for you, since you seem to exist on some different level of living.
The pandemic has been a hardship on those of us that have jobs that were deemed "nonessential". Paychecks that we once counted on no longer were coming in. Savings were used up. Some of us went through savings more quickly because we were assisting more than one family.
Now the s-l-o-w openings of cities means that there are still no new paychecks coming in, and suddenly the price of food is skyrocketing while the availability of meats and other foods is dwindling.
This is cause for concern. Not fright, but definite concern.
Eat shit.
Mod Edit:
-John is on a 3 month vacation from these forums. Feel free to PM me if you have any concerns.
jhood001
05-20-2020, 21:46
Eat shit.
-John is on a 3 month vacation from these forums. Feel free to PM me if you have any concerns.
I personally saw a $40 brisket (a few weeks ago) cost $80 today. Sam's didnt even have the "logs" of meat, but kept it to the 5lb packs. Limit 1. It was the cheapest brisket in the store.
I dont have a powered grinder, but I will hand crank my bambi roasts in my shitty hand crank grinder for a while if these prices keep up.
blacklabel
05-20-2020, 22:45
I can only speak to my little world in the beef industry but yeah, kill and fab are not improving nearly as quickly as we'd expected/hoped and while there has been some improvement, it's not enough to drive down prices or improve availability with restaurants starting to open or people stocking up because of reduced availability. If someone has a line on alternative means to find protein it would be smart to do so.
When I was at Sam's earlier this evening, they had the packs of two roasting chickens, still for $0.92/lb. Aside from that, there were two trays of wings. I walked over to look at the price of pork, and when I returned to the roasting chickens, the trays were gone.
Now they did have a lot of frozen meats, but they were pretty spendy as well.
It may be smart of get a meat grinder- yard sales would be a good place to start.
I can only speak to my little world in the beef industry but yeah, kill and fab are not improving nearly as quickly as we'd expected/hoped and while there has been some improvement, it's not enough to drive down prices or improve availability with restaurants starting to open or people stocking up because of reduced availability. If someone has a line on alternative means to find protein it would be smart to do so.
With what you know and what you see, do you think prices and supply will stabilize by the end of summer? Or do you think the holidays will turn everything upside down again?
Great-Kazoo
05-20-2020, 23:28
When I was at Sam's earlier this evening, they had the packs of two roasting chickens, still for $0.92/lb. Aside from that, there were two trays of wings. I walked over to look at the price of pork, and when I returned to the roasting chickens, the trays were gone.
Now they did have a lot of frozen meats, but they were pretty spendy as well.
It may be smart of get a meat grinder- yard sales would be a good place to start.
We have the STX 2 speed. They are in line with the LEM series, if anyone's interested.
I gave a friend up in N, Ne a call to see what he has available, livestock wise. Not sure what's available as he usually sells @ auction.
theGinsue
05-20-2020, 23:31
When I was at Sam's earlier this evening, they had the packs of two roasting chickens, still for $0.92/lb. Aside from that, there were two trays of wings. I walked over to look at the price of pork, and when I returned to the roasting chickens, the trays were gone.
Now they did have a lot of frozen meats, but they were pretty spendy as well.
It may be smart of get a meat grinder- yard sales would be a good place to start.
I've already forgotten but I'm hoping you remember what the price/pound for ground beef was @ Shamrock on Monday.
blacklabel
05-20-2020, 23:32
With what you know and what you see, do you think prices and supply will stabilize by the end of summer? Or do you think the holidays will turn everything upside down again?
It's entirely related to labor. I'm not trying to argue one point of view or another but in my opinion we won't see tremendously improved supply until the fear of transmission in the plants is negated. A lot of companies are also advising anyone 60 or older to stay home. They could represent 10% or more of a plants workforce and generally the most reliable. Analysts are expecting prices to fall like a rock in Q3 with supply coming back to normal levels but they also didn't expect this to last two and a half months already.
As for the fall, that depends on if we see a repeat in cases and how the media/govt responds. Again, just my opinion. I could definitely see things going south again.
http://www.agcenter.com/newcattlereport.aspx
I've already forgotten but I'm hoping you remember what the price/pound for ground beef was @ Shamrock on Monday.
Member price for ground beef, 85% was $4.99/lb. The angus ground beef was $6.99/lb. Those were the 10# logs.
It's entirely related to labor. I'm not trying to argue one point of view or another but in my opinion we won't see tremendously improved supply until the fear of transmission in the plants is negated. A lot of companies are also advising anyone 60 or older to stay home. They could represent 10% or more of a plants workforce and generally the most reliable. Analysts are expecting prices to fall like a rock in Q3 with supply coming back to normal levels but they also didn't expect this to last two and a half months already.
As for the fall, that depends on if we see a repeat in cases and how the media/govt responds. Again, just my opinion. I could definitely see things going south again.
http://www.agcenter.com/newcattlereport.aspx
Your opinion is based on more experience/exposure than I have, so it holds water. The good thing is that meat in your freezer or canned or cured is always a good bet.
I hadn't thought about the labor force angle. Good info, thanks.
I personally saw a $40 brisket (a few weeks ago) cost $80 today. Sam's didnt even have the "logs" of meat, but kept it to the 5lb packs. Limit 1. 8t was the cheapest brisket in the store.
I dont have a powered grinder, but I will hand crank my bambi roasts in my shitty hand crank grinder for a while if these prices keep up.
Ours had some "logs" but they were all north of $52.00 and up.
$80 for brisket. HOLY HELL.
buffalobo
05-21-2020, 00:09
Member price for ground beef, 85% was $4.99/lb. The angus ground beef was $6.99/lb. Those were the 10# logs.Ouch. That's 20% higher than last time I made the trip(probably 8 months) to Shamrock. I thought the $3.99 price was 20% high at that time.
Another issue in the beef game is producers not happy with processors. They claim processors suppress price they will pay for cattle and inflate price they sell to retail, manipulating market both directions
Great-Kazoo
05-21-2020, 00:37
Ouch. That's 20% higher than last time I made the trip(probably 8 months) to Shamrock. I thought the $3.99 price was 20% high at that time.
Another issue in the beef game is producers not happy with processors. They claim processors suppress price they will pay for cattle and inflate price they sell to retail, manipulating market both directions
They do. Once the livestock is sold for an agreed price, the new seller sets price. However atm some people who raise livestock have bumped their prices up, like way up. One of my sources for fresh meat says she looked at a few head of cattle on a monday. Tuesday morning she saw the same exact cattle with a $500 higher per head, increase.
Locally sourced is the hot commodity atm, everyone in the game is taking advantage, just like gun , ammo and reloading vendors.
Anyone see PSA's prices the last few days?
theGinsue
05-21-2020, 00:37
I had originally deleted the posts made by iego above so as to remove his poison from the site and to keep the thread clean. It was pointed out to me that folks need to see the toxicity that he felt needed to be included so everyone could understand why he has been given 90 days away from the site.
Please keep the thread on topic and polite.
I say "please" and try to project level-headedness but the fact is I keep the ban hammer well polished and ready for use. Don't give me a reason to use it.
8mhadN-8oZE
'Nuff said on this issue - now back to our meat thread - already in progress.
Great-Kazoo
05-21-2020, 00:48
back in to meat? OUCH!
ChickNorris
05-21-2020, 10:33
I had originally deleted the posts made by iego above so as to remove his poison from the site and to keep the thread clean. It was pointed out to me that folks need to see the toxicity that he felt needed to be included so everyone could understand why he has been given 90 days away from the site.
Please keep the thread on topic and polite.
I say "please" and try to project level-headedness but the fact is I keep the ban hammer well polished and ready for use. Don't give me a reason to use it.
8mhadN-8oZE
'Nuff said on this issue - now back to our meat thread - already in progress.
Glad you did. I wasn't online much yesterday & didn't get to this thread until this morning.
I've had moments here, being ornery. But still...
This is not a venue for that kind of insolence & wholly belligerent attitude. How disappointing.
blacklabel
05-21-2020, 11:09
They do. Once the livestock is sold for an agreed price, the new seller sets price. However atm some people who raise livestock have bumped their prices up, like way up. One of my sources for fresh meat says she looked at a few head of cattle on a monday. Tuesday morning she saw the same exact cattle with a $500 higher per head, increase.
Producers were paying what the market would bear. There's a million head backlog of slaughter ready cattle at this point. Some producers have since started paying what's hoped to be an "acceptable" price for cattle considering the climate. None of the beef industry is acting like a free market should because of the limited labor to produce what retail demand is necessitating. Hell, Tyson started paying more for cattle and artificially reduced their retail prices to "keep beef affordable" despite no decreases in demand.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tyson-cuts-some-beef-prices-amid-disruptions-2020-05-13
Prices seem to be different in other states, too- my Mom says ground beef on sale was $6/pound. For seniors trying to subsist on social security, this is especially terrible.
Great-Kazoo
05-21-2020, 14:38
Prices seem to be different in other states, too- my Mom says ground beef on sale was $6/pound. For seniors trying to subsist on social security, this is especially terrible.
In NY my sister's are paying, if they had to, $15 per lb for gb.
In NY my sister's are paying, if they had to, $15 per lb for gb.
I?m not familiar with the cost of living up that way. I?m guessing $15 a lb is probably some sort of weekly special.
In NY my sister's are paying, if they had to, $15 per lb for gb.
That's AWFUL.
FWIW, both the Costcos on Santa Fe in Sheridan and on Quincy at Wadsworth have had a steady supply of meat. Not massively overstocked, but not out either. Small increase in beef price recently, but not terrible. I never keep up with ground beef prices, so not sure on that.
My wife didn?t have any issues picking up three, 2 lb pork tenderloins the other day and a couple of pounds of hamburger.
My wife didn?t have any issues picking up three, 2 lb pork tenderloins the other day and a couple of pounds of hamburger.
Glad to hear that! Was she at a grocery store, or a food warehouse?
Good question. If I had to guess, it was probably our local King Soopers. Might have even been Walmart. I don?t really know.
Quincy Costco has ground beef for $3.50/lb for 88% I think. Organic ground (90%?) for $5/lb. Not a ton, but not sold out either. Steak prices were up a bit, but a decent selection. Tons of pork products.
Fentonite
05-22-2020, 19:38
It’s time to grind dog food again. I usually use about 120lbs of meat, mostly chicken, but also some beef, some organ meats, etc. Are most places imposing quantity limits?
Haven't seen any shortages at the King Soopers down the road from me other than if you go in the evening they may be out of a few things, the next they are usually restocked. They even carry and are stocked pretty well on ground bison and ground elk. Been buying tenderloins for dinner on the weekends without issue.
Costco is currently limiting beef, chicken and poultry to 3 total items per member in the Littleton area.
It’s time to grind dog food again. I usually use about 120lbs of meat, mostly chicken, but also some beef, some organ meats, etc. Are most places imposing quantity limits?
It's getting that time for grinding cat food, too. I've been stashing and stocking up as much as I can; I can grind a double batch and make room in the freezer. Were I you, I would call some of the local ranchers and see if they would sell you some organ meats, and then hit Shamrock foods.
Quincy Costco has ground beef for $3.50/lb for 88% I think. Organic ground (90%?) for $5/lb. Not a ton, but not sold out either. Steak prices were up a bit, but a decent selection. Tons of pork products.
Okay, THIS is good to know. Thank you!
blacklabel
05-22-2020, 21:59
I hate to put my secret out there but ground turkey is always available at WM for $3 - $3.50 a pound. It eats the same as beef the way I use it.
I hate to put my secret out there but ground turkey is always available at WM for $3 - $3.50 a pound. It eats the same as beef the way I use it.
We use a lot of ground turkey. Sam's club has five pounds (2 2.5 pound pkgs) for about $11, except when they're out.
Great-Kazoo
05-22-2020, 23:14
My wife didn?t have any issues picking up three, 2 lb pork tenderloins the other day and a couple of pounds of hamburger.
check the labels. I was going to grab a few more pork ribs. Till i saw IMPORTED on them.
Ground beef was running less than $3 per and chicken was in the $1.30 ish per range.
Side note. I
remember when Red Bird (out of littleton) was first getting their product in to kings on Littleton blvd and s. broadway. Now it's all over the place. Both Frys (kroeger) and safeway, carry their chicken
Here we go- Commerce City, all your Bison needs are met:
https://rockriverbison.com/buffalo-meat/
I don't recall anyone mentioning this but Costco does sell meat by the case. Price per pound is a little less than individually packages and the cases weigh between 60-90lbs depending on what you get. My 78lb box of pork shoulder was $0.39/lb cheaper than the individual package.
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