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Gman
05-01-2020, 14:32
Canada bans assault-style weapons after mass shooting (https://komonews.com/news/local/canada-bans-assault-style-weapons-after-mass-shooting-05-01-2020-171250783)

Don't let facts get in the way that the latest "mass shooting" that killed 22 people (13 shot, 9 burned to death) took place over 2 days and multiple locations.

I'm sure banning gas cans and matches is next.


TORONTO (AP) ? Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Friday that Canada is banning the use and trade of assault-style weapons immediately.

Trudeau cited numerous mass shootings in the country, including the killing of 22 people in Nova Scotia April 18 and 19. He announced the ban of over 1,500 models and variants of assault-style firearms, including two weapons used by the gunman as well as the AR-15 and other weapons that have been used in a number of mass shootings in the United States

"Canadians need more than thoughts and prayers," Trudeau said.

The Cabinet order doesn't forbid owning any of the military-style weapons and their variants but it does ban the use and trade in them. He said the order has a two-year amnesty period for current owners, and there will be a compensation program that will require a bill passed in Parliament.

In the meantime, they can be exported, returned to manufacturers, and transported only to deactivate them or get rid of them. In certain limited circumstances, they can be used for hunting.

"You do not need an AR-15 to take down a deer," Trudeau said. "So, effective immediately, it is no longer permitted to buy, sell, transport, import or use military-grade, assault weapons in this country."

Trudeau said the weapons were designed for one purpose and one purpose only: to kill the largest number of people in the shortest amount of time.

"There is no use - and no place - for such weapons in Canada," he said.

Mass shootings are relatively rare in Canada, but Trudeau said they are happening more often. Trudeau noted he was nearby when in Montreal when gunman Marc Lepine killed 14 women and himself at Montreal's Ecole Polytechnique college in 1989. The Ruger Mini-14 Lepine used is among weapons included in the ban.

Trudeau has said his government would introduce further gun control legislation prohibiting military-style assault weapons, a measure that had already been planned before the coronavirus pandemic interrupted the current parliamentary session.

"As of today the market for assault weapons is closed. Enough is enough," Public Safety Minister Bill Blair said.

The gunman in Nova Scotia, 51-year-old Gabriel Wortman, shot 13 people to death and set fires that killed nine others in one of the worst mass shootings in the country's history. Police have said he used a handgun that was obtained in Canada and long guns that he obtained in the U.S., but they have not specifically said what guns he used. The rampage started with an assault on his girlfriend and it ended with 22 people dead in communities across central and northern Nova Scotia. A number of people had disputes with the gunman.

Blair said two of the illegal long guns that Wortman used are now on the list of weapons banned. He declined to identify them. He said making such guns illegal in Canada will make it harder for criminals to obtain them.

"Every firearm begins legally and then moves into an illegal market," Blair said.

Opposition Conservative leader Andrew Scheer accused Trudeau of using the "immediate emotion of the horrific attack in Nova Scotia to push the Liberals' ideological agenda and make major firearms policy changes."

Scheer said the Nova Scotia shooter did not have a firearms licence, so all of his guns were illegal.

"Taking firearms away from law-abiding citizens does nothing to stop dangerous criminals who obtain their guns illegally," Scheer said in a statement. "The vast majority of gun crimes are committed with illegally obtained firearms. Nothing the Trudeau Liberals announced today addresses this problem."

FoxtArt
05-01-2020, 14:47
Canada bans assault-style weapons after mass shooting (https://komonews.com/news/local/canada-bans-assault-style-weapons-after-mass-shooting-05-01-2020-171250783)

Don't let facts get in the way that the latest "mass shooting" that killed 22 people (13 shot, 9 burned to death) took place over 2 days and multiple locations.

I'm sure banning gas cans and matches is next.

This part:

The Cabinet order doesn't forbid owning any of the military-style weapons and their variants but it does ban the use and trade in them. He said the order has a two-year amnesty period for current owners, and there will be a compensation program that will require a bill passed in Parliament.

In the meantime, they can be exported, returned to manufacturers, and transported only to deactivate them or get rid of them. In certain limited circumstances, they can be used for hunting.


Will inevitably happen here someday too. I hope more of us realize that - they won't be knocking on most people's doors, they'll be waiting for you to eventually go silently into the night, and then the ban carries no risk (they are patient). And Grandfathering is one of the things we should be most vigilant about, because too many will just accept it - you even see that with our existing regulations here. ("meh, I've already got 25, so I'm good".) It's somewhat surprising that even Canada is afraid of outright confiscation risks.

MrPrena
05-01-2020, 15:30
I think it is National Firearms Association (NFA) is their pro firearm group similar to NRA here.

VDW
05-01-2020, 15:42
Maybe they will throw in a law banning the use of fire for good measure, too? That would eliminate pesky forest fires and global warming all in one stroke of the pen!

ray1970
05-01-2020, 15:46
Firearms in Canada have required licenses and registration for years. If you own one of the banned weapons, then they already know you own it. I think they already had classes of weapons including non-restricted (fudd guns) and restricted (everything else?) so I would think anyone in possession of a military style weapon was probably well vetted and licensed and the firearm was registered.

With already strict gun ownership laws in place, that should have prevented an incident like this, right?

Little Dutch
05-01-2020, 16:07
I just wonder who thinks these firearm registrations and bans do anything to cut violent crime.

ray1970
05-01-2020, 16:20
Maybe the Canadian politicians, eh hoser?

Gman
05-01-2020, 17:05
Take off, eh.

FoxtArt
05-01-2020, 17:42
Hmmm, never thought of what Canadian confiscation would be like till ya said it.


We're askin' nicely for your rifle over der. Would ya please hand her over eh?

68Charger
05-01-2020, 18:26
The weapons used by the shooter were already illegal...

But never let a good crisis go to waste

Gman
05-01-2020, 19:07
The weapons used by the shooter were already illegal...

But never let a good crisis go to waste

Are you suggestin' that criminals break laws? [panic]

battlemidget
05-01-2020, 19:18
Trump should threaten Canada with economic sanctions because of this. Boy that would be a show!

def90
05-01-2020, 19:40
They still haven’t released what types of weapons the shooter used other than 2 hand guns and 2 semi auto rifles have they? I thought I read somewhere that one of the rifles was a lever action rifle.

Hummer
05-01-2020, 21:43
I favor hanging by good men in the night.

Gman
05-01-2020, 23:46
http://youtu.be/8fV-i3QDR6g

Circuits
05-02-2020, 10:57
I just wonder who thinks these firearm registrations and bans do anything to cut violent crime.

The point isn't to cut violent crime. It never has been. That is merely the fig leaf they run up to gain the support of beta males and soccer moms.

It's always been about disarming the populace to allow ever more stringent government power.

Libs in power are fine with massive levels of violent crime keeping the masses scared and looking to the government for safety and security.

Bailey Guns
05-02-2020, 12:03
Trump should threaten Canada with economic sanctions because of this. Boy that would be a show!

Yeah, right. Trump is about one shooting away from proposing many of the same gun control crap here. Bump stocks, anyone?

wyome
05-02-2020, 13:55
I feel safer now...

DavieD55
05-02-2020, 14:28
The point isn't to cut violent crime. It never has been. That is merely the fig leaf they run up to gain the support of beta males and soccer moms.

It's always been about disarming the populace to allow ever more stringent government power.

Libs in power are fine with massive levels of violent crime keeping the masses scared and looking to the government for safety and security.


This^^^

Gun control is only about the power to control. Always has been and it always will be period.

Watch as the parasites in the canadian government roll out more tyranny in the years to come. They will see more and bigger police state antics along with a bigger surveillance grid and a crackdown on more freedoms (As an example leftist/RINO mandated vaccines) ....because that is what it's really about.

It is the same agenda going on here in the USA. Always under the guise of safety and security or it's for the children.

The emperor has no clothing.

Gman
05-02-2020, 14:38
I'm afraid we're not that much further behind Canada.

eddiememphis
05-05-2020, 18:42
http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2020/2020-05-01-x3/pdf/g2-154x3.pdf

List of weapons and the explanation.

No handguns... yet. Two days ago the PM said the would move forward with legislation on handguns, "...when Parliament allows."

From https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/investigation-firearms-ns-shooting-1.5544180

"In Canada, you're not allowed to even purchase ammunition unless you have a possession and acquisition card," Hunt said.

It's also unclear where and how Wortman learned to fire the weapons. Shooting a handgun would come with a steep learning curve, according to Hunt.

That is from the owner of a gun shop.