View Full Version : Site Seems Excessively Slow - 5/6/20
Is it just me, or is the site really slow right now? I'm not seeing the tremendous latency for this site on other sites even with the same browser.
Somewhat same. I'm seeing it elsewhere, depending, but having no impacts to my SSL VPN > VM connection, which is nice.
Little Dutch
05-06-2020, 11:27
Seeing it here as well. Mobile and desktop both.
buffalobo
05-06-2020, 11:43
Too many bots this morning.
Assorted bad guys must be getting back to work.
I'm also getting a warning that I'm leaving the page when posting, and the vBulletin SW seems to be trying to double post as I get a 30 second posting warning.
Sites like this have a lot of moving parts and many things to look after. Sometimes basic maintenance gets put on the back burner for more important things like threatening the membership with banning if they dare mention the single most important event in any of our life times. At ease comrades.
I just figured with such a large number of people working from home these days that the entire internet was probably just clogged like a post-cinco de mayo toilet.
Sites like this have a lot of moving parts and many things to look after. Sometimes basic maintenance gets put on the back burner for more important things like threatening the membership with banning if they dare mention the single most important event in any of our life times. At ease comrades.
The range is hot. I say again, the range is hot.
Something isn't right. I just submitted a single response to the going to space thread, and it double posted (eventually) with no intervention from me.
Wow. Something changed in the last 5 minutes. Much quicker.
Wow. Something changed in the last 5 minutes. Much quicker.
The glitch is gone. Slow again. [Coffee]
https://youtu.be/nUBtKNzoKZ4
buffalobo
05-06-2020, 22:43
Admins working on it. Be off n on til they get done.
theGinsue
05-07-2020, 10:00
You may have noticed the latency has disappeared.
The latency was caused by a serious bot attack on our site. While there are mediations that can be made on a case-by-case basis at the server level, I don't have access to that capability.
To resolve the issue, for the time being, I have turned off Guest access to the site. This means that the only way to view the site is as a registered user who is logged onto the site. If you ever look at the site while not logged in, you won't be able to so that for the time being.
I plan to turn Guest access back on, but I want to give it a little time for the bots to think they can't get in any more.
StagLefty
05-07-2020, 10:32
Thanks !!!
Little Dutch
05-07-2020, 10:35
Nice, thanks!
Is there a way to use an authenticator to limit bot activity using Guest. Some kind of challenge-response, like CAPTCHA?
(The site is wicked fast right now. I'd hate to give that up. ;-) )
theGinsue
05-07-2020, 10:38
I've been wondering the same thing myself, but I can't see that as an option within vBulletin. I know it's an option for creating accounts, but I don't see an option for just accessing the site.
Thanks for building the wall.
Send the bill for your labor to the bots.
Apparently it's under Settings > Human Verification Manager
https://vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=315960
...and maybe this is an option?: Admin CP -> Usergroups -> Usergroup Manager -> Edit Usergroup (Unregistered) -> Require Human Verification on Configured Actions -> Yes
Great. Now we?re going to verify people are humans. That is going to eliminate some people here.
Great. Now we?re going to verify people are humans. That is going to eliminate some people here.
We humans are being farmed by our robot overlords.
Much website joysomeness now. Quick like a bunny. Thanks!
Great. Now we?re going to verify people are humans. That is going to eliminate some people here.
I'm out...
SideShow Bob
05-07-2020, 18:01
You may have noticed the latency has disappeared.
The latency was caused by a serious bot attack on our site. While there are mediations that can be made on a case-by-case basis at the server level, I don't have access to that capability.
To resolve the issue, for the time being, I have turned off Guest access to the site. This means that the only way to view the site is as a registered user who is logged onto the site. If you ever look at the site while not logged in, you won't be able to so that for the time being.
I plan to turn Guest access back on, but I want to give it a little time for the bots to think they can't get in any more.
What ?
First COVID-19, now this ! Will it never end ?...........
Now iwill have to sign in just to look at this ??€[^< site........
Just kidding, Great work, and a pat on the back to all you interwebz wizards. [Beer]
theGinsue
05-07-2020, 18:30
Apparently it's under Settings > Human Verification Manager
https://vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=315960
...and maybe this is an option?: Admin CP -> Usergroups -> Usergroup Manager -> Edit Usergroup (Unregistered) -> Require Human Verification on Configured Actions -> Yes
We use the Human Verification System (HVS), just not the CAPTCHA at this time. I just looked at it again and we do have HVS configured for that usergroup. There is no option to activate it for accessing/browsing the site.
Darn. Thanks for looking.
Thanks for all the hard work on this site, but what i dont get is this; "How is there 2646 guests?"
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theGinsue
05-07-2020, 21:57
Yeah, I've been trying to sort that one out myself. The number actually went UP after I blocked Guest access permissions to the site.
Great-Kazoo
05-07-2020, 23:01
Yeah, I've been trying to sort that one out myself. The number actually went UP after I blocked Guest access permissions to the site.
why not set it so no guest can access the forum ?
why not set it so no guest can access the forum ?
I was kicking around that same question tonight. Do guests help with ad revenue? I don't think so. So, how do they improve the experience of this site?
Is there concern about not having more people coming across the site and injecting 'new blood' into it? [Sofa]
buffalobo
05-08-2020, 07:55
The site has always been "open" to encourage guests to join.
Are you going to take the time and effort to sign up for a site when you have no idea what goes on there?
Yeah, I've been trying to sort that one out myself. The number actually went UP after I blocked Guest access permissions to the site.
Could it be everyone's links to pictures and other websites counting as "guests?"
Poor tracking of bots and visit length = each page spidered by a single bot (like google) often counts as a "unique" guest.
So if Google checks and indexes 2,000 pages over the last half hour, the site incorrectly reports 2,000 unique visitors.
Block Google. Problem solved. [Coffee]
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