Helmet recommendation?

[Tim K]

If a fella was concerned that he might have to stand outside his place of business and repel looters, what do you all recommend for a bump helmet? I anticipate adding NOD's to the toybox someday, so compatibility with NV would be a bonus. I probably don't want to spend the bank for actual ballistic protection.

My head is pretty big if that matters to the discussion.

[Aloha_Shooter]

If it's a bump helmet, do you need anything more than a full face-shield motorcycle helmet or autocross helmet? Nice thing about having those is they look "ordinary" so won't attract undue attention ...

[Irving]

You don't think a dude standing in a store front wearing a full face motorcycle helmet would stand out?

[Tim K]

I have full face MC helmets. I don't think I'd like having my ears covered or the reduction in peripheral vision. Probably exactly the right thing for getting hit with a stick, though!

[Aloha_Shooter]

You don't think a dude standing in a store front wearing a full face motorcycle helmet would stand out?

I meant prior to actual use. Having a combat helmet sitting on the shelf or by the door would attract more queries. Of course you could keep it in a duffel bag until needed.

[CS1983]

Check out an Ops-Core: https://www.gentexcorp.com/ops-core/helmet-systems/

[Justin]

Team Wendy, Gen Tex and 3M seem to come up a lot.

[Erni]

Cheap option would be a bmx or roller derby certified helmet. Can take a licking and good for multiple impacts. Would blend in most anywhere as looks like a bicycle helmet. Carry a skateboard and you can add a backpack and elbow and knee pads without looking suspicious.


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[XJ]

Ops-Core was recommended to me, no complaints but I've never done more than wear it around the house.

Probably not a good week to go outside at night and run around the neighborhood.

[SideShow Bob]

Do like the Korean business owners did in the Rodney King riots, claim the Tactical advantage of the high ground, defend from the roof.
Take your turkey fryer pot And several buckets of peanut oilwith you, boiling oil will be a good deterrent.

[CS1983]

Do like the Korean business owners did in the Rodney King riots, claim the Tactical advantage of the high ground, defend from the roof.
Take your turkey fryer pot And several buckets of peanut oilwith you, boiling oil will be a good deterrent.

I feel like the potential to accidentally knock that over and start a fire on the roof is higher than it being a legitimate deterrent that doesn't result in a very interesting lawsuit.

[Wulf202]

I feel like the potential to accidentally knock that over and start a fire on the roof is higher than it being a legitimate deterrent that doesn't result in a very interesting lawsuit.

Not to mention cleaning that up.

[Ah Pook]

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[battlemidget]

When you're looking at bumps, pay attention to the nvg shroud. Team Wendy, HardHead Veterans both have metal shrouds whereas ops core and protec's bump both have plastic shrouds.
Team Wendy, the boa wires can ride where your earcups go, but the boa isn't necessary if you have your straps adjusted correctly. Team Wendy's peltor adaptors are AWESOME. They 'click out' and rotate back. I butchered a set of Howard Leights (just cut the wireframe, once cut it rotates to slide out. Don't mess with any plastic.
Consider what you're going to run on the rails. Opscore has that awesome Amp system that moves your earpro attachment to the rail behind your ear, freeing up the horizontal rails for a iff light or whatever.
Team Wendy's new 3.0 rails have 3 slot pic rails integrated, perfect for a princetontec or something small.
If you're going to stand around wearing nods you'll want a counterweight too. Check out TNVC's mohawk. There's a few different types of mohawks, and for a good budget counterweight check out HardHead Veterans counterweight.

[ray1970]

I would be too lazy to gear up and defend my business. I?d likely just lock it up and leave and count on the big insurance payout if anything happened to it.

Homes and loved ones are worth defending. Everything else.... not so much.

[BushMasterBoy]

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[Rucker61]

Cheap option would be a bmx or roller derby certified helmet. Can take a licking and good for multiple impacts. Would blend in most anywhere as looks like a bicycle helmet. Carry a skateboard and you can add a backpack and elbow and knee pads without looking suspicious.


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And some cool stickers.

[blacklabel]

Cheap option would be a bmx or roller derby certified helmet. Can take a licking and good for multiple impacts. Would blend in most anywhere as looks like a bicycle helmet. Carry a skateboard and you can add a backpack and elbow and knee pads without looking suspicious.


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Pretty standard uniform for rioters right now.

[Irving]

Maybe a dumb idea, but by the time you get to the point of having a helmet on, maybe a camera on the helmet would help deter people from doing dumb things. Probably not, and might end up more incriminating to the wearer in the end. Just a thought.

ray1970, you might be right, but when you build a business, you have a different relationship to it beyond just the place that you work; logical or not.

[blacklabel]

Maybe a dumb idea, but by the time you get to the point of having a helmet on, maybe a camera on the helmet would help deter people from doing dumb things. Probably not, and might end up more incriminating to the wearer in the end. Just a thought.

Based on what I've seen the last 5 days cameras have almost no deterrence when things escalate.

[Irving]

That's what I was thinking. People are already wearing masks and mob mentality takes over. Oh well.

[Tim K]

I would be too lazy to gear up and defend my business. I?d likely just lock it up and leave and count on the big insurance payout if anything happened to it.

Homes and loved ones are worth defending. Everything else.... not so much.

Not worried about the loss of property. It?d take at least a year to rebuild at very best. It?s the loss of income for myself and 16 other families that is the real concern.

[ray1970]

Gotcha. Not owning a business I guess I am ignorant of those kinds of things.

But, I?ll shoot off my mouth anyways and suggest that maybe instead of one guy wearing a helmet how about five or ten guys (some of your employees) out front with some claw hammers and a couple of Louisville sluggers?

[MrPrena]

Not worried about the loss of property. It?d take at least a year to rebuild at very best. It?s the loss of income for myself and 16 other families that is the real concern.

^ this

My parents business didnt get physically effected due to the location, but the consumer demand went down the toilet after the 92 LA riot. We shut down 2 businesses at a huge losses (no buyers obviously).


Financial ruins really hurts family. It will tear many many families when family cannot even afford their kids school lunch. 2 to 3 jobs. No hope of paying for univ after high school graduation. Landlord knocking on doors about another late rent. Etc.

[COcz]

We went with the kota outfitters ballistic helmets, think they are korean.

[MrPrena]

We went with the kota outfitters ballistic helmets, think they are korean.

Thanks for the recommendation.
I saw great reviews from many forums.

[blacklabel]

That's what I was thinking. People are already wearing masks and mob mentality takes over. Oh well.

On top of that, having a camera makes you a target in a few instances. Something discreet may be warranted though.

[Not_A_Llama]

Team Wendy is Team Hillary.

[battlemidget]

Team Wendy also has a 'backcountry SAR' helmet that has rails and an nvg shroud. You'd be lookin pretty cool with your bump helmet in US Coast Guard Orange. Sometimes I wish I went that route, it would match the orange shirt I wear.

[Batteriesnare]

I've been very happy with my Team Wendy Exfil bump helmet - including use with NV. If you plan to run ear cans, get the adapters for the side rails that pop in and out - very nice!

[CS1983]

I've been very happy with my Team Wendy Exfil bump helmet - including use with NV. If you plan to run ear cans, get the adapters for the side rails that pop in and out - very nice!

I assume those maintain a good pressure for actual hearing protection without being overly tight?

[MrPrena]

My helmet.
I have a baseball helmet, hockey helmet, martial art helmet, etc, but I do not have a ballistic helmet. :)

Hockey hellmet gotta do until i buy one.
https://i.imgur.com/FCO233A.jpg?1