View Full Version : Denver Public Schools discussing removing SROs?
.455_Hunter
06-04-2020, 15:13
Given the history of stupid shit happening at schools across the metro area over the past 25 years, people think this is a good idea?
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/denver-public-schools-to-reassess-keeping-sros-in-schools-announcement-planned-for-friday
It's fine to debate how much the SROs should get involved with "normal' discipline, but I sure as hell want on them campus to engage the next incel loser who decides the student body is the reason for his life failure.
Just to highlight why this is such a bad idea, we just need to look at our own local Arapahoe High School in 2013...
https://www.denverpost.com/2013/12/14/arapahoe-high-school-shooting-gunman-intended-to-harm-many-at-school/
Karl Pierson's attack at Arapahoe High School lasted just 80 seconds, enough time to shatter Claire Davis' life and leave hundreds of other classmates in fear for their own.
And his intent was far more grave.
"His intent was evil, and his intent was to injure multiple people," Arapahoe County Sheriff Grayson Robinson said Saturday afternoon.
However...
The quick actions of a deputy sheriff working as the school's resource officer and an unarmed security guard undoubtedly saved lives, Robinson said. They immediately dashed from the cafeteria down a long hallway to the library while yelling for students to get down and get back.
"The shooter knew the deputy was coming," Robinson said.
Because of the actions of the SRO, the shooter self-ventilated after tasking only one innocent life as opposed to many.
How much more justification is needed to show that SRO's are an unfortunate necessity of modern schools, especially when principal/admin/teacher legal concealed carry is apparently off the table?
beast556
06-04-2020, 16:51
I would be all for removing sro's from schools if the teachers were allowed to ccw. Until then keep the sro's in place.
Makes about as much sense as progressives defunding law enforcement. What could possibly go wrong?
BPTactical
06-04-2020, 17:53
You want increased drugs, fights, stabbings and shootings in schools?
Because this is how you get increased drugs, fights, stabbings and shootings in schools.
Snowman78
06-04-2020, 17:59
I agree removing SRO?s is a bad idea, but DPS does also have armed School patrol officers as does Jeffco and Aurora Public schools.
https://safety.dpsk12.org/
BPTactical
06-04-2020, 18:16
How this is even considered clearly illustrates the illogical and irrational liberal mind.
And when the first thing goes horribly wrong . . . they'll ask where the police were and why it took so long to get there.
That idiot Anderson had that idea as one of his campaign platforms. He’s also the clown that won’t stand for the national anthem. He won obviously so just another example of the shithole that is Denver.
BPTactical
06-04-2020, 18:53
Whatever happened to "If it saves one child"??????????
battlemidget
06-04-2020, 19:19
I hear home schooling is getting more popular.
Does a home schooling parent get the state stipend for education to purchase supplies, coarse work and manadated testing materials?
Does a home schooling parent get the state stipend for education to purchase supplies, coarse work and manadated testing materials?
No. And we also get to continue to subsidize the "Jenny has two daddies" BS.
Dont worry, there will be a ballot initiative soon enough to raise taxes so the schools can hire their own mercenaries to replace the police officers.
'Have to love how the progressive solution to everything is to throw more money at it, unless it's LEO. Money doesn't fix law enforcement problems!.... only poverty, schools, healthcare, politicians wages, roads, retirement, corruption, gun violence, drug abuse, homelessness, mental illness, blah blah blah
Bailey Guns
06-05-2020, 10:49
Yeah...that's an interesting observation.
BPTactical
06-05-2020, 11:51
'Have to love how the progressive solution to everything is to throw more money at it, unless it's LEO. Money doesn't fix law enforcement problems!.... only poverty, schools, healthcare, politicians wages, roads, retirement, corruption, gun violence, drug abuse, homelessness, mental illness, blah blah blah
Touche'
Little Dutch
06-05-2020, 12:02
I hear home schooling is getting more popular.
I've been trying to figure out how to make homeschooling work for us. With both of us working full time, and my wife working what I think are long hours, I don't know if we have much of an option. A private school, if we can get the boys into one, might be our best option.
However, I'm open to a debate on whether SRO's is the best solution. There is more than one answer here, and I don't know which one is best. Private security, SRO's, armed faculty, stuff I haven't considered.
There's more than one example of a deputy deciding not to engage an active shooter (Parkland, Marjory Stoneman Douglas, probably others). The RSO when I was in high school was bedding a few of the seniors every year (the two I was friends with were under 18 at the time). Assuming those stories are even true, but I have more reason to suspect they are true than false. That's a very limited sampling of bad actions in a very large pool of SRO's, and may be a statistical anomaly for SRO's.
I'd like to see an actual argument with solutions proposed. That's not what we'll get though. We'll get a "we stand with the black community" canned response with a proposed action and no alternative presented.
.455_Hunter
06-05-2020, 12:50
However, I'm open to a debate on whether SRO's is the best solution. There is more than one answer here, and I don't know which one is best. Private security, SRO's, armed faculty, stuff I haven't considered.
There's more than one example of a deputy deciding not to engage an active shooter (Parkland, Marjory Stoneman Douglas, probably others). The RSO when I was in high school was bedding a few of the seniors every year (the two I was friends with were under 18 at the time). Assuming those stories are even true, but I have more reason to suspect they are true than false. That's a very limited sampling of bad actions in a very large pool of SRO's, and may be a statistical anomaly for SRO's.
The problem is right now, given the political climate of most populated area school districts, is that RSOs are the ONLY viable option for getting a "good guy with a gun" on campus with any regularity. There may be (and probable are) many on-campus individuals who could fulfill the armed response role, but unless they are going to break the law to carry, the will be unarmed for the indeterminate future. Keeping the RSOs, or other LEO (whatever the designation), on campus is the best bet we currently have for any sort of effective response.
'Have to love how the progressive solution to everything is to throw more money at it, unless it's LEO. Money doesn't fix law enforcement problems!.... only poverty, schools, healthcare, politicians wages, roads, retirement, corruption, gun violence, drug abuse, homelessness, mental illness, blah blah blah
He shoots....and he SCORES!!!
Boom goes the dynamite.
The next time there’s an issue in a school with a bad actor I hope Tay rushes his fat ass to the scene and comes to the rescue.
All these new ideas that Democrats are shooting around for blue cities, hey I am all for it. From what I have seen they are mostly in cities that are already controlled by all blue politicians. Yeah sure liberal cities, let's defund the police department, or in this case pull cops away from schools. I don't live there so I think I would like to see how that works and watch from afar. Sucks for sane people that live there but once it fails you may get new leadership to fix the smoking hole in the ground that is left over.
Aloha_Shooter
06-05-2020, 15:31
They need another bad incident at a school so they can push for more gun control. Combine that with using the money to fund more social justice programs and handouts and you get proposals like this.
This might be a very/extremely unpopular stance, but here are my 2 cents.
I will favor no SRO, if we bring back the CORPORAL PUNISHMENT AT SCHOOL.
EOM.
buffalobo
06-05-2020, 19:49
The best way to protect kids in school is to have trained, armed men guard them.
I think they should double the number of SRO's and would support the collection of taxes to pay for them.
All these new ideas that Democrats are shooting around for blue cities, hey I am all for it. From what I have seen they are mostly in cities that are already controlled by all blue politicians. Yeah sure liberal cities, let's defund the police department, or in this case pull cops away from schools. I don't live there so I think I would like to see how that works and watch from afar. Sucks for sane people that live there but once it fails you may get new leadership to fix the smoking hole in the ground that is left over.
Unfortunately, what happens in the biggest blue city in this state pretty much defines what we all have to live with.
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