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earplug
07-05-2020, 19:12
Neighborhood friend had a strange man at the door distracting her while a woman was in her backyard trying to lure her two young dogs. Neighbor saw the lady in her backyard messing with her dogs through a window.

Lady said she was putting the dogs back after they got out. She had to move a trash can to gain entrance to the backyard and the dogs don't get out. Bad people were recorded by security camera and they left together.

Sheriff was called and and was able to track down the couple living two blocks away with several other valuable easy to sell dogs. I don't know anything else.

I have ordered a camera and spent the day resetting some motion lights. I don't feel paranoid pocket carrying around home anymore.

.455_Hunter
07-05-2020, 19:17
I pocket carry at least a NAA Mini at all waking hours, with magnitudes higher firepower available in seconds. Too much stupid shit around here.

hurley842002
07-05-2020, 19:42
I pocket carry at least a NAA Mini at all waking hours, with magnitudes higher firepower available in seconds. Too much stupid shit around here.G19 AT ALL TIMES, even at home in "comfy" clothes (typically gym shorts and T), I have a carry method for the 19.

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Erni
07-05-2020, 19:56
Add a working dog to the group. It?s like a 1911 for small dogs.

Great-Kazoo
07-05-2020, 21:00
G19 AT ALL TIMES, even at home in "comfy" clothes (typically gym shorts and T), I have a carry method for the 19.

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I've been carrying the 638 smitty. It's well paired with almost anything old navy has for summer ;)




















or the 43, or 19. I sometimes OC a 1911, cause i have a small













stump ;)

Irving
07-05-2020, 21:11
My wife found a puppy and posted on Nextdoor. She immediately had a LONG message from some asshole saying how they'd "really like to get that dog before the owners, because look how abused it is, and I can take better care of it, blah blah blah." People can be trash.

hurley842002
07-05-2020, 21:14
I've been carrying the 638 smitty. It's well paired with almost anything old navy has for summer ;)




















or the 43, or 19. I sometimes OC a 1911, cause i have a small













stump ;)[emoji1787]

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Sawin
07-05-2020, 21:30
So it sounds like the two loony tunes from a couple blocks away were caught... but what kind of charges are they subjected to and what would y’all do if someone was caught stealing your dog? I have a hard time believing it’s alright legally to shoot said jackass if they’re caught stealing your dog... even if it does amount to a felony in the “dogs value equals” category.

beast556
07-05-2020, 21:52
I don't think anyone will be stealing my 65lb pitbull, she would tear the shit out of anyone who tries to come in the yard. Cable installer( box is in our yard) learned that the hard way one day, should of knocked on the door first.

MrPrena
07-05-2020, 22:04
That is very low. Pretending needing help, and sneak into someone's backyard to steal a dog (or anything).
That being said, I think ccw/OCing pistol and ARpistol at home is very important.

.455_Hunter
07-05-2020, 22:12
I guess this is where it pays to have a humane society mutt. I think our dog has about 4 different breeds.

rondog
07-05-2020, 22:29
You'd have to be lower than whale shit to steal someone's dog.....that's beyond fucked up.

Bailey Guns
07-05-2020, 22:30
I take the health and well being of my dogs very seriously.

GilpinGuy
07-06-2020, 00:41
I take the health and well being of my dogs very seriously.

No shit man. They ARE family members. Fuck with my dogs and we have a serious problem.

Buff
07-06-2020, 06:25
Someone wants to try to steal my Red and Blue Heelers they're in for an adventure....

buffalobo
07-06-2020, 06:36
Someone wants to try to steal my Red and Blue Heelers they're in for an adventure....That's what I'm saying.

WillysWagon
07-06-2020, 07:50
You just don't mess with someones dog !
That's crazy.

Jer
07-06-2020, 18:33
I've been saying it for years now, why does anybody still answer the door for an unknown party in the year 2020? Nothing good is going to come of it. I don't know if people still think that Ed McMahon is going to be standing there with a $1 million check from publishers clearing House or what. I disconnected our doorbell chime years ago and the only regret is that I didn't do it sooner. If somebody knows me they'll call or text before they show up. The only people who use doorbells that I'm not expecting are sales people and criminals so I don't care.

hurley842002
07-06-2020, 18:48
I've been saying it for years now, why does anybody still answer the door for an unknown party in the year 2020? Nothing good is going to come of it. I don't know if people still think that Ed McMahon is going to be standing there with a $1 million check from publishers clearing House or what. I disconnected our doorbell chime years ago and the only regret is that I didn't do it sooner. If somebody knows me they'll call or text before they show up. The only people who use doorbells that I'm not expecting are sales people and criminals so I don't care.It was a pleasant surprise to learn that solicitation quickly becomes illegal with proper signage, could be as simple as the little "No soliciting" signs on your door, or a no trespassing sign. Fortunately our community has signs posted at both entrances, with the ARS spelled out. Only door ringing at my place is the neighbor kids wanting to play, or Amazon, UPS, etc. But no, I'm like you, I don't answer the door for anything usually.

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Jer
07-07-2020, 07:40
It was a pleasant surprise to learn that solicitation quickly becomes illegal with proper signage, could be as simple as the little "No soliciting" signs on your door, or a no trespassing sign. Fortunately our community has signs posted at both entrances, with the ARS spelled out. Only door ringing at my place is the neighbor kids wanting to play, or Amazon, UPS, etc. But no, I'm like you, I don't answer the door for anything usually.

I've got two and it doesn't stop door-to-door salesmen. If everyone stopped buying from door-to-door salesmen the problem would go away almost overnight. The fact that they have any success at all though is what keeps them going. Same with phone solicitors... people complain about them but they continue to reward the bad behavior. If I don't know who you are when you ring my phone or doorbell I couldn't care less.

CS1983
07-07-2020, 09:04
FWIW, in CO, dogs are considered property, so if you decide to "defend", just keep that in mind and IAW CO self-defense regs.

FoxtArt
07-07-2020, 10:05
Yup, that's pretty universal countrywide. Pets = chattel, or roughly equivalent to say, a TV. If you can't act to defend your TV, for the most part, you can't act to defend your pet either (with some scattering of case law here and there that slowly is building on some recognition). Likewise, if someone kills your pet (LEO have the wrong house for a warrant and end up shooting your dog) you're usually only able to be compensated their value as chattel, so... for mutts, probably $15.00. Maybe $1.00 if they're older. If your pet is seized, your not able to be compensated at all even if they are gone for several years, no more than they'd pay you for loss of use of your TV.

In other circumstances, Animal Cruelty laws could apply, but you're still usually only able to be compensated as their value in chattel, not as their value as a thinking, breathing thing - people may try to skirt that by alleging outrageous conduct etc. At any rate, our reliance on doing things "how they've always been done" here leads to all sorts of screwed up application of "justice" both criminal and civil.

hurley842002
07-07-2020, 15:03
I've got two and it doesn't stop door-to-door salesmen. If everyone stopped buying from door-to-door salesmen the problem would go away almost overnight. The fact that they have any success at all though is what keeps them going. Same with phone solicitors... people complain about them but they continue to reward the bad behavior. If I don't know who you are when you ring my phone or doorbell I couldn't care less.It's unfortunate Colorado doesn't seem to have anything prohibiting them from continuing the solicitation.

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