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eddiememphis
07-24-2020, 17:02
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/07/24/maya-alec-mckinney-sentenced-deadly-stem-school-shooting/

Channel 9 reporter kept calling her "him".

Since the girl thinks she is a boy, will she go to men's or women's prison?

There is no way the DOC will put an 18 year old girl in a men's prison, is there?

Great-Kazoo
07-24-2020, 17:08
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/07/24/maya-alec-mckinney-sentenced-deadly-stem-school-shooting/

Channel 9 reporter kept calling her "him".

Since the girl thinks she is a boy, will she go to men's or women's prison?

There is no way the DOC will put an 18 year old girl in a men's prison, is there?

Why not, there's a lot of men who enter prison. Only to identity as women down the road.

Sawin
07-24-2020, 17:11
if she wants to be a man, why not let her live with the men... or is that cruel and unusual punishment?

Bailey Guns
07-24-2020, 17:17
Gen Pop male prison. Decisions have consequences. Even when you're too young to be making those decisions. If "he" has to spend 40 years in segregation, alone with no contact with anyone, even better.

I think I'll start a pool on when "he's" going to demand taxpayers pay for his sex change while "he's" in prison.

JohnnyDrama
07-24-2020, 17:19
I'm curious, what are the chances of lead poisoning from a gunshot wound?

crays
07-24-2020, 17:20
I was yelling at the TV about this while this was on while I was getting ready for work.

"QUIT REFERRING TO IT AS 'HIM/HE. IT'S A FEMALE!!"

I dont even know why I bother. The weather and traffic that I watch it for are almost as useless as the two crapbags on trial.

Sent from somewhere...

FoxtArt
07-24-2020, 18:53
Definitely should go to a male general pop prison, but hopefully sterilized first. Talk the talk, then you can walk... or waddle, waddle the waddle. It'll be hard to walk.

hurley842002
07-24-2020, 19:04
Why not, there's a lot of men who enter prison. Only to identity as women down the road.And guess what, we get to pay for hormone therapy for them.

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Duman
07-24-2020, 19:15
DILLIGAF?

Eric P
07-24-2020, 19:47
She wants to go to the men's jail, get pregnant, sue the state for something and get a sissy judge to change her sentence to time served & probation so that she can raise her prison baby.

Irving
07-24-2020, 20:02
Rogan had a recent interview about the recent uptick of young girls wanting to transition into men. It's both sad and scary.

Bailey Guns
07-24-2020, 20:24
It's kinda hard to tell anymore who the boys/men are and who the girls/women are with a certain segment of society.

kidicarus13
07-24-2020, 20:29
Just be sure to keep the important stuff in mind when speaking or typing...
https://www.colorado.edu/cisc/resources/trans-queer/pronouns

Bailey Guns
07-24-2020, 20:34
It is never safe to assume someone’s gender and living a life where people will naturally assume the correct pronouns for you is a privilege that not everyone experiences. Choosing to ignore or disrespect someone’s pronouns is not only an act of oppression but can also be considered an act of violence.


Well, I guess I'm an oppressive, violent person. Aside from this post you'll never hear/see me use made up bullshit like "ze" or "hir". If you're a woman I'll likely treat you like one. Same with men. If I can't tell I'll probably ignore you.

Eric P
07-24-2020, 20:49
The nice thing about the wuhan virus BS is that you never hold a door for anyone anymore, cause you violate thier safe airspace

GilpinGuy
07-24-2020, 22:01
In related "news":
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Gman
07-24-2020, 22:11
How much of her impulse to shoot her fellow students was fueled by taking testosterone in the first place?

Let these kids develop first. If they want to make changes once they reach adulthood, that's on them. Being a teen is hard enough without screwing with their biology.

CS1983
07-24-2020, 22:11
She?s mentally ill, as are all so-called transgender persons *and they who facilitate their sickness*.

She is no more a male than I am a 6?7? blacker than Toby?s ass Center. Put me in front of a real 6?5? 300 pound defensive lineman and watch my short, white ass get creamed.

Anyway, she should either be executed or put in an asylum.

Gman
07-24-2020, 22:14
Gender dysphoria is a thing.

Ah Pook
07-24-2020, 22:35
Send the mentally ill "male wannabe" to male prison.

The sad part is the parents that have to deal with their child's death and this mentally ill sack of shit.

Sorry, pronouns are male and female. The rest are made up feelings.

CS1983
07-24-2020, 22:39
Gender dysphoria is a thing.

So is thinking one can fly. We don’t entertain those thoughts of others when they are 100 feet above the ground. She is either mentally ill, or not (and thus playing a game). If the former, she belongs in a place she can get help (which she can’t, since the DSM now ratifies insanity), or she needs to be executed for murder.

Gman
07-24-2020, 22:48
In case I wasn't clear, I wasn't excusing the crime.

I'm fine with execution.

I also think the criminal's parents share culpability.

BPTactical
07-25-2020, 06:49
She?s mentally ill, as are all so-called transgender persons *and they who facilitate their sickness*.

She is no more a male than I am a 6?7? blacker than Toby?s ass Center. Put me in front of a real 6?5? 300 pound defensive lineman and watch my short, white ass get creamed.

Anyway, she should either be executed or put in an asylum.


Or put in GenPop and forced to live a “mans”life.

FoxtArt
07-25-2020, 08:23
I also think the criminal's parents share culpability.

Eh sometimes, but not the majority of the time. That kind thing is not all that far from the liberals "They're only bad because someone made them bad" platform. Some people just suck, and their parents have nothing significant to do with it beyond contributing genetic code. Absent evidence, I'm more in the "each person is responsible for their own decisions" camp, although more correctly, I'm in a "I wish we did more about mental illness research/diagnosis/segregation" camp, and I absolutely agree that "disphoria" is a serious mental illness with lots of co-occuring issues including increased suicide risk. It's unfortunate that it's en vogue. I can only imagine if people reacted the same way with clinical depression, e.g.:



"My daughter came out as clinically depressed"
Oh my gaaaaawd I always knew! I'm so proud of her! Does she have a secret suicide pact you don't know about? HAhaha.
"The worst thing is, Her dad wants to put her in some sort of treatment for being depressed, can you BELIEVE THAT ASSHOLE"
Oh Gawww, that's HORRIBLE. I really think my 8 year old is clinically depressed, I've been telling him if he gets urges that are very suicidal it's totally normal and he should embrace it and be proud of it, I really hope he's depressed. Otherwise I'll have a energetic boy in the house right?
"We should go march in the depressed parade, I've got a grey flag and an all grey suit, I'm so excited!"

Yet... that's exactly how they treat dysphoria which is very CLEARLY a serious mental illness. And something like 40% of them commit suicide in a society that "embraces" it as socially fashionable.

eddiememphis
07-25-2020, 09:19
None of the responses address my question.

What is the DOC to do LEGALLY?

I would think putting an 18 year old girl, regardless of her self perceived gender, into a men's prison would be at the very least, dangerous.

They would open themselves up to a lawsuit when violence happens.

And what precedent would it set for future cases?

A man facing time in a federal maximum security institution could claim he's a lady inside and be sent to a women's prison.

Irving
07-25-2020, 09:26
None of the responses address my question.


You've been around long enough to know to lower your expectations.

hurley842002
07-25-2020, 09:27
None of the responses address my question.

What is the DOC to do LEGALLY?

I would think putting an 18 year old girl, regardless of her self perceived gender, into a men's prison would be at the very least, dangerous.

They would open themselves up to a lawsuit when violence happens.

And what precedent would it set for future cases?

A man facing time in a federal maximum security institution could claim he's a lady inside and be sent to a women's prison.

Whatever ?bits? you have between the legs, that?s what prison you go to. There are males with their twigs n berries, that have full on boobs requiring a bra, but as long as the genitalia is that of a man, they go to male prison. Likewise, if you have a ?man in a boat? but have a full on beard, you go to a female prison.


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FoxtArt
07-25-2020, 10:57
None of the responses address my question.

What is the DOC to do LEGALLY?

If you want the boring truth, it's a no win answer that will most likely defer to the women's system. No matter what, the subject is likely going to claim some great atrocity has been committed upon his/her rights, and either way, our system may as well have the consistency of swiss cheese for enabling that. I think it's a reasonable assumption that they defer to putting him/her into a womans prison unless him/her demands to be put into the mens, which could constitute "waiver". Many of the earlier responses are tongue-in-cheek and/or for entertainment value; we're not at a conference table in the DOC seriously mulling over which prison director is less likely to be sued under 11 U.S.C. ?1983 by a cross dressing murderer.

Gman
07-25-2020, 11:17
Eh sometimes, but not the majority of the time. That kind thing is not all that far from the liberals "They're only bad because someone made them bad" platform. Some people just suck, and their parents have nothing significant to do with it beyond contributing genetic code. Absent evidence, I'm more in the "each person is responsible for their own decisions" camp, although more correctly, I'm in a "I wish we did more about mental illness research/diagnosis/segregation" camp, and I absolutely agree that "disphoria" is a serious mental illness with lots of co-occuring issues including increased suicide risk. It's unfortunate that it's en vogue. I can only imagine if people reacted the same way with clinical depression, e.g.:



Yet... that's exactly how they treat dysphoria which is very CLEARLY a serious mental illness. And something like 40% of them commit suicide in a society that "embraces" it as socially fashionable.
That wasn't my point in regard to the parents. I'm not saying that this gal was the product of her parents making her bad. The parents were directly involved with the gender transition/medical treatment of a minor child.

IMHO the kid should finish developing and getting through the hormonal angst of being a teen before they start monkeying with biology.

Irving
07-25-2020, 12:53
That wasn't my point in regard to the parents. I'm not saying that this gal was the product of her parents making her bad. The parents were directly involved with the gender transition/medical treatment of a minor child.

IMHO the kid should finish developing and getting through the hormonal angst of being a teen before they start monkeying with biology.

You may be incorrect here. Minors don't need to get their parents permission to be prescribed hormones, or even to have their breasts removed. When I get home I'll link to the Rogan interview in case anyone is interested. Historically the rate of true cases of gender dysphoria are 1 in 10,000. Currently the rate is 2 in 100 in highschool students alone. According to this lady's research who wrote her book about it.

Irving
07-25-2020, 16:50
Here's the interview I've been referencing. The lady is pretty upfront about not being a scientist or anything. Just a reporter that kept getting contacted by people and writing a book about it. Pretty scary stuff.
The basic finding is that young girls that would have historically been bulimic, or into cutting, are turning "trans" instead right now. It's a total trend. I think it's worth the time. It is interesting and frightening.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtftWcgXjdg

Great-Kazoo
07-25-2020, 18:22
None of the responses address my question.

What is the DOC to do LEGALLY?

I would think putting an 18 year old girl, regardless of her self perceived gender, into a men's prison would be at the very least, dangerous.

They would open themselves up to a lawsuit when violence happens.

And what precedent would it set for future cases?

A man facing time in a federal maximum security institution could claim he's a lady inside and be sent to a women's prison.

Legally they will place Her in a SHU in a female prison. I use SHU as that's all i can remember from what's it's called in CA DOC. Special Housing Unit. For the trans, queer, openly gay prisoners. Including those with aids/hiv. Both in male & female prisons. What they call it in CO, who knows?
Option B would be housed in an isolation unit. But i believe each state has a specific name for that section.

However, all people like that are segregated from genpop.


Other than that, shims on her own. Like any other housing section in the joint. It's survival of the fittest.


Of course a 2 min web search has plenty of info on said subject
https://www.quora.com/What-happens-to-transgender-prisoners-Which-prison-are-they-put-in

Eric P
07-26-2020, 06:57
She?s mentally ill, as are all so-called transgender persons *and they who facilitate their sickness*.

She is no more a male than I am a 6?7? blacker than Toby?s ass Center. Put me in front of a real 6?5? 300 pound defensive lineman and watch my short, white ass get creamed.

Anyway, she should either be executed or put in an asylum.

I have non problem executing the mentally defective if the commit a crime deserving of it. No different than putting down a sick dog.

brutal
07-27-2020, 10:15
Its pronoun should be was/were.

Bailey Guns
07-27-2020, 11:12
I have non problem executing the mentally defective if the commit a crime deserving of it. No different than putting down a sick dog.

I beg to differ. Putting down a sick dog is a very sad thing.

BPTactical
07-27-2020, 11:23
I beg to differ. Putting down a sick dog is a very sad thing.



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Eric P
07-27-2020, 18:28
I beg to differ. Putting down a sick dog is a very sad thing.

Yes, I admit, I cried during old yeller.

Duman
07-27-2020, 19:51
Its pronoun should be was/were.

Well played....