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JohnnyEgo
07-28-2020, 20:06
I bought one, and I have been zipping around on it for a few weeks now. Figured it might be of interest here. For a little context, my other bike is a 1990s Schwinn Beach Cruiser I bought in Florida for $100 from a Walmart, so I am definitely not a bike guy. But my son wants to start taking on some gravel and mountain bike trails, and I want to keep up with him for the general exercise. I also wanted something I could stick in a work truck or rental for when I am travelling, hence the folding bike.

I had planned to get the $800 green Paratrooper, but nobody had them in stock because Covid. I ended up with the Montague Paratrooper Highline, as it was the only one in stock at Freedom Folding Bikes in Boulder at the time. About $400 more expensive than I had planned on, but once I saw it, I quite liked the way it looked. And also, it was right there, right then.

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It is nicer than any bike I've ever owned, and more expensive than all of them combined. That said, I am not a bike nerd, but the bike nerds told me that absent the folding component, it is middle-of-the-road at best. Still, it has stuff I had not realized were used on a bike before, like hydraulic disc brakes and fancy trigger shifters, and giant tires. So that's cool.


Mine is the medium frame. Same stand-over height as the large frame, just 2" shorter in length. At 6', I was right at the line of the medium and large frames, but the medium won out because it was actually at the shop. I am more or less an even split between legs and torso, but I can see feeling crowded if I had longer legs. My biggest issue was that the bars were ridiculously low and much too narrow for me to be comfortable with. I almost bit it just riding around the store parking lot. The store I bought it from slapped on a 3" handlebar riser, which was better, but the wider handlebars I added later really made the difference in comfort, at the expense of being compact. I added Ergon grips and a kick-stand to the riser, and had the cables extended. The local bike shop suggested the Ergons because my hands were going numb even on short rides. They were so awesome and comfortable I bought a second set for my cruiser. With all these additions, it rides as upright as my beach cruiser, although I have recently learned a lesson about how that might not be optimal.


Anyways, on to the folding. Pop the tires off, and the rear triangle folds around towards the handlebar. The result is still fairly large, but it takes up width rather than length. A lot of the videos I saw on this thing show people leaving the back tire on. In experience, particularly with these tall tires, that didn't do very much to make it fold well. It folds at an angle with the rear tire mounted, instead of parallel, and while you can stuff the front tire into that space, the whole package is still pretty large and unwieldy with the back tire on. I could stick it in the back seat of my truck, but it consumed a lot of space. I found it took very little time to pop the back wheel off, stick a chain keeper in there, and then fold it up much more compactly. It is still a full-sized bike, though, and with the forks sticking way out, it is fairly tall.


I mostly plan to stick this thing into rental car trunks and the space between the desk in the back of our work Transits, but I was curious if I could fold it down enough to fit into a suitcase. Took about five minutes and an Allen key to pull the wheels, fold the frame, remove the handlebars and the fork. Pedals are quick-release. At this point, it fit well enough in the suitcase that I could zip it up, but the crank-set shoves it hard against the bag sides. If I remove one side of the crank-set, it will fit very easily with room for additional padding, but that will take more than an Allen key to do, so I need to put some thought into it.
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Reassembly was also very quick. Slap the fork on, and the handle bar.
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Mount the front wheel
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Mount the back wheel
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Attach the pedals and adjust the seat.
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About 5-8 minutes from suit case to rideable.


The wheels can be deflated and fitted into a wheel bag which is airline-size legal, but I haven't bought one yet. But it is doable. Not certain this offers me much over just paying the $100 bike fee, but it can be done.


Also stores pretty easily when I need floor space.
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Great-Kazoo
07-28-2020, 20:37
Nice unit. it took me a bit to realize what some of the things we missed about windsor & CO. After reading your post it came to me. The bike snobs in town ;)


we do have some nice off road areas in a 5-10 min ride around here. For next visit, of course.

JohnnyEgo
07-28-2020, 21:25
The bike snobs are everywhere around here, and I have joined their lycra-clad midst. Somehow after living here for a decade, I never realized the Great Western Trail was literally right behind the house. Runs from my development, up through Severance, and then on to Ault. All gravel, all flat. Other than the stretch by the sewage lagoon and/or Bruce's, it's a nice little ride. The good news is the next time I am down your way, I can bring the bike with me.

Great-Kazoo
07-28-2020, 23:00
The bike snobs are everywhere around here, and I have joined their lycra-clad midst. Somehow after living here for a decade, I never realized the Great Western Trail was literally right behind the house. Runs from my development, up through Severance, and then on to Ault. All gravel, all flat. Other than the stretch by the sewage lagoon and/or Bruce's, it's a nice little ride. The good news is the next time I am down your way, I can bring the bike with me.

YES!
need a heads up . So i can cook up some more chili chocolate chip cookies. .

Starting aug 1st the fire danger is lifted.

Meaning we can shoot out to well beyond our usual missed the targets distance.

JohnnyDrama
07-29-2020, 07:16
Nice write up. I've been interested in those for a while. I've been getting in quite a bit of riding since things slowed down. The range is just three miles outside of town - easy bicycle distance. It's fun to take a break from a ride and get in some handgun practice.

Mtneer
07-29-2020, 07:22
Nice bike! You're going to brutalize yourself with that saddle and stem adjustment. The saddle should be parallel to the ground; fore/aft and height look about right but perhaps need slight adjustment. The handlebars should be much lower (unless you have a bad back) for better comfort and control; it's possible to snap the stem that high up which would make for a very bad day. If you leave it as is, replace the saddle with a wider cruiser style that has a shorter nose and perhaps replace stem with one made for high rise. I'd also take off the lawyer reflectors, more annoying than useful. IMHO

JohnnyEgo
07-29-2020, 11:50
I am slowly learning those lessons. I set the saddle level to the ground itself with a torpedo level, but it somehow always looks like it has a much more forward tilt in photographs. I am not too worried about the stem height in the sense that there are a lot of owners of these bikes with stem risers, and it is the most common first modification. If I rode it aggressively, I might have more of that concern, but for pavement and gravel, I think I am fine. That said, I am gradually lowering the stem height for the other reasons you mentioned. The bike is super comfortable for me in the full upright position for about 30 minutes, but thereafter it is brutal; all my weight is pretty much on the seat in that position, and it is definitely not a cruiser seat. So I have been gradually lowering the handlebars bit by bit to put more of the weight in my arms, and find the point where my back doesn't hurt in 10 minutes and my butt doesn't want to kill me after 30. I'm down from 5.5" of total rise to about 3" at the moment. Once I get comfortable with that, I will likely swap for a fixed riser.

By happy utilitarian coincidence, the 15 year old Maxpedition pack that I have used for everything from hiking pack to diaper bag over the years has now been repurposed to a handlebar bag. I didn't even have to unpack it from it's hiking load, as a first aid kit, rain jacket, and water seem like useful things to have on the gravel road as well. Very stable, and reasonably convenient to keep my G19 fully concealed but accessible while riding.

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TheGrey
07-29-2020, 12:44
Today I learned there are bikes that fold up!

Irving
07-29-2020, 13:41
I have a ladder that folds up but it's not cool enough for its own thread.

This is NOT an e-bike, right?

JohnnyEgo
07-29-2020, 14:05
It's not an e-bike, although apparently they are popular to modify. The two most active user groups appear to be RV people and small plane pilots. There is actually a fairly robust discussion on an adventure pilot forum about all the guys who take these with them so they can land at very small private strips without services, and still bike into town. Several of those guys have converted them into mid-drive eBikes, and carry the lithium batteries on storage pods lashed to the wing struts. I thought it was interesting, at least.

Irving
07-29-2020, 14:46
That's pretty interesting. E-bikes are controversial in some parts of the hunting world right now as well.

ray1970
07-29-2020, 14:49
E-bikes. Great. Another pass time for Jer.