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We've been watching the progress of the Pine Gulch and Grizzly Creek fires. The Pine Gulch fire started in the Bookcliffs north of Palisade and has grown to more than ~58,000 acres, one of the largest in Colorado history. It's readily visible at 12 miles north of our farm outside Palisade.
The Grizzly Creek fire is burning north, south, east and west and through Glenwood Canyon and is around 8000 acres, closing I-70 in both directions and evacuating residents from No Name to Cottonwood Pass. It is the the highest-priority fire in the country due to the I-70 closure. Closer detour routes have been closed making the longer routes difficult and impractical. I don't know when I'll be able to travel to irrigate. I-70 could be closed for another week or more.
This state and our country really needs the leadership to build efficient alternate north and south routes across the Continental Divide.
At our home a few miles east of the Divide we've been inundated by the orange glow of light filtering through smoke, the heavy smoke and some ash fallout. I imagine that many of you along the northern Front Range are getting it too. We live in a high fire danger area and I work every week to lessen the risk. When we see the smoke we are cognizant of the tremendous loss of life and productivity that comes from the fires.
BushMasterBoy
08-13-2020, 23:37
My eyes are burning something awful. Visine A seems to help.
Like our air quality hasn't been bad enough this year.
They even had a hot round set a fire right at the top of the berm at the Cherry Creek State Park range today.
Thank you for the info. I was just taking pictures of the sun today because it has been so red for the last two days.
My eyes are burning something awful. Visine A seems to help.
Wow, maybe that's why MY eyes have been bugging me so much! Didn't consider smoke.....
beast556
08-14-2020, 07:05
Big fire burning up the Poudre canyon also. Pretty smokey up here in ft fun.
Great-Kazoo
08-14-2020, 07:58
Hopefully we'll not see that much of it down here. But it's too dry and windy. A lot of people are concerned, an errant cigarette tossed out a window, or lightening strike will kick off what you're experiencing up there.
At exactly 8am woke up to the smell of forest fire smoke here in the 'springs.
Amazing how that'll jar you awake.
O2
Aloha_Shooter
08-14-2020, 08:45
Hmmm ... haven't smelled the fire here in NE COS but can definitely see the smoky haze above the horizon in all directions.
EDIT: Okay, I take it back ... got the smell just as I pressed Submit ...
Smells like fire up in the metro area as well.
cableguy11
08-14-2020, 09:50
Peak Fire in Poudre Canyon closed HWY 14 yesterday..Strong smoke smell in Loveland!
BPTactical
08-14-2020, 11:06
Peak Fire in Poudre Canyon closed HWY 14 yesterday..Strong smoke smell in Loveland!
I was gonna hook the camper up and go up near Longdraw this weekend.[Mad]
No wonder in the morning breeze smell like wood fire pit.
newracer
08-14-2020, 11:18
Couldn't even see the foothills from my house this morning.
My least favorite time of the year. Supposed to be in Palisade the first of Sept.
Stay safe.
wctriumph
08-14-2020, 15:10
Yeah, orange light all this morning driving the bus. At 4am this morning you could really smell it. The smoke was clearly visible all morning throughout the Fort Collins residential areas. I honestly thought we would have had this happen a month ago.
On a side note, my mandatory mask did nothing to filter out the smoke, how could it possibly filter out a virus?
Fentonite
08-14-2020, 15:21
My mask actually helped me breath in the smoke. I started coughing and wheezing as soon as I went outside. (But I’m sure the smoke molecules are lots bigger than the virus - I don’t consider it reflective of functionality against COVID).
It sounds like hanging lake has burned from the Grizzly Creek fire which blew up over 14k acres. I'd guess the famous tree-in-the-lake would be one of the few survivors.
Holger Danske
08-14-2020, 16:08
It sounds like hanging lake has burned from the Grizzly Creek fire which blew up over 14k acres. I'd guess the famous tree-in-the-lake would be one of the few survivors.
I was thinking the same thing. I grew up in Glenwood and hiked that trail too many times to count.
It sounds like hanging lake has burned from the Grizzly Creek fire...
Bummer. Has been on my bucket list for a few years. You snooze, you lose.
I'd guess the famous tree-in-the-lake would be one of the few survivors.
Well, at least there will still be a place for models to hang out (https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/company-in-hanging-lake-photo-controversy-says-it-didnt-see-signs-not-to-swim/73-449376753)...
Seriously, since the log appears to be partially out of the water at one end (?), it's gone, or at least most of it will be burned.
O2
https://www.denverpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/hanging.jpg?w=640
Instagram lost big today.
BladesNBarrels
08-14-2020, 16:19
My mask actually helped me breath in the smoke. I started coughing and wheezing as soon as I went outside. (But I?m sure the smoke molecules are lots bigger than the virus - I don?t consider it reflective of functionality against COVID).
CBS News had a doctor on this morning that reported the smoke particles are much finer than COVID-19 and the masks don't screen them.
Gotta get a respirator like the fire fighters wear.
CBS News had a doctor on this morning that reported the smoke particles are much finer than COVID-19 and the masks don't screen them.
Gotta get a respirator like the fire fighters wear.
Pretty sure that statement was BS.
Fentonite
08-14-2020, 17:24
CBS News had a doctor on this morning that reported the smoke particles are much finer than COVID-19 and the masks don't screen them.
Gotta get a respirator like the fire fighters wear.
Must've been psychosomatic. Sure seemed to help.
A quick search finds that the COVID virus is anywhere from 70-140 nanometers, usually around 100 nanometers (range take from multiple site, some variation between). Wood smoke is 100-200 nanometers. https://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/es981277q
They're closer in size than I assumed, for sure.
Jumped in the truck this morning. I could smell the smoke as soon as I walked out of the garage. Could see the smoke in the air just looking to the end of the block. Mountains? What mountains.
blacklabel
08-14-2020, 19:03
I backpacked up near the Cameron Peak fire last weekend. I'm really glad I got that trip in when I did. It's been a bucket list kind of trip for me and I'd be pissed if I missed out on it.
Correction, I guess after they surveyed the damage, much of the immediate hanging lake area survived. Gotta love bad info. [Rant2]
BPTactical
08-14-2020, 21:12
The last 3 mornings I have had fine ash on my truck.
Good to hear. The Hanging Lake and tunnel assets were high priority protection areas.
We need rain.
The last 3 mornings I have had fine ash on my truck.
That's what you get for cleaning it enough to notice.
That's what you get for cleaning it enough to notice.
Exactly, I'd be hard pressed to notice a cinder block on the hood of my truck...
I heard these fires are Trump's fault.
Must've been psychosomatic. Sure seemed to help.
A quick search finds that the COVID virus is anywhere from 70-140 nanometers, usually around 100 nanometers (range take from multiple site, some variation between). Wood smoke is 100-200 nanometers. https://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/es981277q
They're closer in size than I assumed, for sure.
How big are the pores in the average paper or cloth masks most people are wearing? I've heard it's similar to using a chain-link fence to keep mosquitoes out of your yard.
buffalobo
08-14-2020, 23:44
I backpacked up near the Cameron Peak fire last weekend. I'm really glad I got that trip in when I did. It's been a bucket list kind of trip for me and I'd be pissed if I missed out on it.Mrs bo favorite area. She learned to 4 wheel and trail ride ATV earlier this year.
I'm in Centennial near University and Arapahoe Rd. Was out a short time ago for my daily dog walk to find ash on the hood of the truck. My heart goes out to anyone dealing with these fires close to their home. My younger son is a severe asthmatic and has been suffering all week, good thing the new job he got keeps him working in his air conditioned apartment. This has been a bad summer, for many reasons, now adding these wildfires to the mix is awful.
To any of you impacted sending good vibes your way, stay safe.
https://i.postimg.cc/NjVKXsp5/76684938-B2C4-4CE0-966D-BEBF3675B425.jpg (https://postimg.cc/DSrfkTVT)
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This was Friday in Glenwood Springs looking at the Hotel Colorado. Photo sent by a friend of mine.
https://i.postimg.cc/kg8mj77V/EDD5B66A-3D42-414F-8F2F-00F9F6FC6F1B.jpg (https://postimg.cc/DS2H0kJF)
beast556
08-16-2020, 11:26
It's super smokey in welling today. We were gonna go to estes today but think were gonna stay home.
There were ashes on top of my vehicle.
babarsac
08-16-2020, 14:50
Is anyone near Granby or Grand Lake? We're supposed to go up there next weekend and I'm starting to have second thoughts. I don't want to be hiking with our 8-month old if the air quality is that bad.
Is anyone near Granby or Grand Lake? We're supposed to go up there next weekend and I'm starting to have second thoughts. I don't want to be hiking with our 8-month old if the air quality is that bad.
Grand County may be closed at that point due to the Williams Fork fire
https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/6971/
cmailliard
08-16-2020, 15:02
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High Res Sat image of the Cameron Peaks Fire in Larimer.
This was Friday in Glenwood Springs looking at the Hotel Colorado. Photo sent by a friend of mine.
https://i.postimg.cc/kg8mj77V/EDD5B66A-3D42-414F-8F2F-00F9F6FC6F1B.jpg (https://postimg.cc/DS2H0kJF)
I was at that very spot Friday morning, -it induced coughing and was very unpleasant. We'd planned to be in the area a few days longer but were strongly encouraged to take the few routes home before those became untenable as well.
There's a new fire at Rifle Falls, still less than 5 acres, but prompting evacuations...
nighterfighter
08-17-2020, 08:48
Had ash on my vehicle yesterday morning too in Littleton (Santa Fe and Mineral).
There are some nice photos someone took flying in/out of DIA, where you can see all the smoke.
Glad I was able to take someone from out of state through some of these parts before all the fires started.
yip, even had visible ash on our deck out south of Elizabeth, Sunday morning. We sleep with our windows open at night and my wife showed me how filthy our window pains where, from the ash coming in. Amazing when you consider how far away the fires are.
DireWolf
08-17-2020, 11:57
Took these a couple days ago, can clearly see the smoke plume...(one of them, anyway)
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Pine Gulch is now 125,108 acres.
wctriumph
08-19-2020, 11:35
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Took this one on the way home from work on Saturday evening. Terry Lake in Fort Collins.
I'm guessing I won't be running tomorrow morning... Again...
O2
hurley842002
08-20-2020, 07:04
I'm guessing I won't be running tomorrow morning... Again...
O2
If it makes you feel better I didn?t go for my morning run either, but it wasn?t because of fires, foot needed a break.
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If it makes you feel better I didn?t go for my morning run either, but it wasn?t because of fires, foot needed a break.
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I thought maybe you didn?t go because it was a hundred and four degrees when you woke up.
hurley842002
08-20-2020, 13:09
I thought maybe you didn?t go because it was a hundred and four degrees when you woke up.
LOL, you make a good point, which is why I have to wake up at 4am. I've been slacking on my days off, by sleeping in to 7am or so, and I've paid the price for it, as it's usually 90+ by the time I'm out running. Forget anything physical outside past 10 am.
Pine gulch just updated to 121,000 acres 24 minutes ago. A huge boost from yesterday.
hollohas
08-20-2020, 18:57
They revised it down from yesterday...Inciweb was reporting 125,000+ acres yesterday. But they got some better mapping done last night and bumped it down a bit.
They had reported <40mph winds for almost 4 hours Tuesday night into Wednesday morning, really bad conditions. Inciweb still says it increased 35k "last night" but I don't think it had a full update today because that was the info from Wednesday.
I'll probably head to GJ in a few days to irrigate. It's terribly dry there. The detours will likely take 7.5 hours instead of 4.5. For the next several years Glenwood Canyon will have even more shutdowns due to falling rock than ever before.
We hope to avoid a fire here along the Peak to Peak. Fortunately we've had some brief but good showers yesterday and today. Our mini monsoon.
The fire and smoke in the western US is just insane.
https://i.imgur.com/2XFVuGa.png
https://i.imgur.com/xpTdWDN.png
BushMasterBoy
08-21-2020, 00:18
The heat is been relentless. I have used the A/C way more than the last 13 years. Usually I can get by with just the swamp cooler. Yesterday the smoke smell was terrible. Visibility reduced to just a few miles. Map above is scary...
Meteor my ass. It?s conditions like this that snuffed out the dinosaurs.
And probably the American Indian too. The whole white man killed the Indian thing was just the beginning of misinformation from the media designed to cause racial tension in our country.
BPTactical
08-21-2020, 07:40
We are reaping the reward of forestry mismanagement for over 100 years. In 1910 wildfires totaling 3+ million acres went through Idaho and Montana killing many. This was the catalyst for modern wildfire fighting ideology.
Ever since then every fire has been aggressively fought without taking into account fires role in western coniferous forest ecology. Fire is needed for healthy forests. It keeps the Western Pine beetle in check, Ponderosa cones wont open without it, it keeps undergrowth managed to name a few.
Now when we have a fire it is a rager that cannot be contained.
Aloha_Shooter
08-21-2020, 08:50
Makes for beautiful sunsets but wow ...
JohnnyDrama
08-21-2020, 16:27
We are reaping the reward of forestry mismanagement for over 100 years. In 1910 wildfires totaling 3+ million acres went through Idaho and Montana killing many. This was the catalyst for modern wildfire fighting ideology.
Ever since then every fire has been aggressively fought without taking into account fires role in western coniferous forest ecology. Fire is needed for healthy forests. It keeps the Western Pine beetle in check, Ponderosa cones wont open without it, it keeps undergrowth managed to name a few.
Now when we have a fire it is a rager that cannot be contained.
I thought the forests were "managed" as they are so the USDA can sell logging/grazing permits and turn a profit on the natural resources. The result has been overcrowded forests with the same end you mentioned.
We are reaping the reward of forestry mismanagement for over 100 years. In 1910 wildfires totaling 3+ million acres went through Idaho and Montana killing many. This was the catalyst for modern wildfire fighting ideology.
Ever since then every fire has been aggressively fought without taking into account fires role in western coniferous forest ecology. Fire is needed for healthy forests. It keeps the Western Pine beetle in check, Ponderosa cones wont open without it, it keeps undergrowth managed to name a few.
Now when we have a fire it is a rager that cannot be contained.
Yes!!!
Hey Liberals! Stop burning woods and do KUM BAH YAH hippie gathering on Camp fireplace and cause Forrest fire!
You are burning down the Forrest to cause Global Warming! (or Global Burning).
We are reaping the reward of forestry mismanagement for over 100 years. In 1910 wildfires totaling 3+ million acres went through Idaho and Montana killing many. This was the catalyst for modern wildfire fighting ideology.
Ever since then every fire has been aggressively fought without taking into account fires role in western coniferous forest ecology. Fire is needed for healthy forests. It keeps the Western Pine beetle in check, Ponderosa cones wont open without it, it keeps undergrowth managed to name a few.
Now when we have a fire it is a rager that cannot be contained.
Were you in my forestry classes in college? ;-)
Logging has been deemed as evil (and kills spotted owls). Controlled burns are 'bad for the environment'.
Trees don't live forever. You can harvest them, or they will burn, which is part of their lifecycle. Normally, forests are a patchwork of areas that have burned at different intervals. This results in a mixed ecosystem of deciduous and coniferous trees in different stages of life, which creates natural fire breaks and helps to limit huge fires. The mixed forest is also a host to diverse fauna.
I guess it's easier to just bend over to popular opinion rather than try and educate the masses.
BPTactical
08-22-2020, 07:06
My Forestry class started right after high school. It was the school of hard knocks. I spent 3 years on a USFS saw crew doing tree stand improvement, beetle kill mitigation, line clearing, fire risk mitigation and such. Worked 4 actual fires that were small in size, we were back ups to the back up crews. Even though they were small fires, <50 acres it is hard, hot and dangerous work.
I can’t imagine being on a Type I or Type II crew that is front line on these big ones.
May the Lord watch over them.
StagLefty
08-22-2020, 07:26
Up and out for a walk early this morning. Haze during sunrise was unreal. Everyone talks about the haze in the west but I was stunned by the eerie look in the east !!
buffalobo
08-22-2020, 09:48
My Forestry class started right after high school. It was the school of hard knocks. I spent 3 years on a USFS saw crew doing tree stand improvement, beetle kill mitigation, line clearing, fire risk mitigation and such. Worked 4 actual fires that were small in size, we were back ups to the back up crews. Even though they were small fires, <50 acres it is hard, hot and dangerous work.
I can?t imagine being on a Type I or Type II crew that is front line on these big ones.
May the Lord watch over them.^^^This.
Aloha_Shooter
08-22-2020, 10:38
I thought the forests were "managed" as they are so the USDA can sell logging/grazing permits and turn a profit on the natural resources. The result has been overcrowded forests with the same end you mentioned.
I think it started long before that with the old Smokey the Bear "Only You Can Prevent Forest Fires" campaigns. Back then, any forest fires were viewed as bad so the effort was turned to tamping them all out immediately -- end result was a build-up of fuel. The selling of permits started IIRC with the Reagan or Bush administrations as a way to bring revenue other than income taxes into the federal government. It had the side benefit of clearing out some of the growth but has always had to fight the environuts who only saw "old growth" forests being decimated.
To be fair, the most economically profitable (in the short term) way to harvest is clear-cutting but I think decimation -- picking out trees sparsely -- has a better long term effect in preventing massive fires so there's a need to balance the harvesting operations as well.
I70 is open through Glenwood Canyon
I think it started long before that with the old Smokey the Bear "Only You Can Prevent Forest Fires" campaigns. Back then, any forest fires were viewed as bad so the effort was turned to tamping them all out immediately -- end result was a build-up of fuel. The selling of permits started IIRC with the Reagan or Bush administrations as a way to bring revenue other than income taxes into the federal government. It had the side benefit of clearing out some of the growth but has always had to fight the environuts who only saw "old growth" forests being decimated.
To be fair, the most economically profitable (in the short term) way to harvest is clear-cutting but I think decimation -- picking out trees sparsely -- has a better long term effect in preventing massive fires so there's a need to balance the harvesting operations as well.
Trying to be selective often harms the trees left behind due to things like soil compaction. Weak trees are often targets for bark beetles. Clear cutting is more efficient and is usually followed by replanting.
Trees are renewable resources. We plant corn, it grows, we harvest, and do it again next year. 1 year cycle. With conifer forests, the cycle is just longer. Pulpwood for paper is usually around 15 years. Timber is obviously longer.
We drive by areas in the PNW that are on Native American land that we saw harvested years ago. It was replanted and has been interesting to see grow up over the years.
ETA: One oddity about that area is that some of the stumps from harvested trees have large boulders set on top of them.
StagLefty
09-06-2020, 18:41
I think today is the worse I've seen it this year. Smoke smell is real strong and the air has a yellowish tinge to it !!! I see that fire up to the northwest has really exploded today.
Aloha_Shooter
09-06-2020, 18:48
I am well aware that trees are renewable resources but clearcutting means the trees that are close together and have a mass of fuel are still close together and still have the mass of fuel until their section's turn has come up. I was talking specifically about preventing massive fires but forestry is not my area of expertise and I don't deal with fires above the campfire level (well, bonfires a few times but I wasn't in charge for any of them).
Having said that, the skies were still hazed and smoky today when I exited the commissary at Peterson. Not entirely surprising given the statewide burn restrictions (and outright burn ban in Colorado Springs) but still gives one pause for thought at the magnitude of these fires two weeks later. We should have a care package process for the firefighters like we had for servicemen in the Persian Gulf.
This evening we're getting a lot of smoke from the Cameron Peak fire. We're supposed to have breezy or high winds soon but it's calm now. The predicted snow of 12-16 inches on Tuesday should snuff out the fires. Welcome here but it will accelerate plant drop to late fall/winter condition and will make foraging harder on mammals and birds. Bringing in firewood and covering the wood piles tomorrow.
Made and placed concrete all day but still need to do fascia and roof work before winter. Lots of woodcutting to do too. The seasonal rush....
We're working to get ready for the snow.
buffalobo
09-06-2020, 21:57
Could smell the smoke out here very early this morning with light haze. Smoke smell went away before breakfast but haze worsened until heavy overcast this afternoon. Couldnt see sun most of the day, just red glow. Didn't really notice any ash but with the extremely dry conditions we have "dust" if any wind blows and it was breezy today.
I thought this was time appropriate:
http://youtu.be/-_2IQWSHm48
https://youtu.be/-_2IQWSHm48
Just coming off the mountain from Cameron Peak. Heading back in the morning.
Hopefully it gets knocked down a few notches with the snow. Thanks to you and your fellow fire fighters for all the work. It ain’t fun or easy.
Hopefully it gets knocked down a few notches with the snow. Thanks to you and your fellow fire fighters for all the work. It ain’t fun or easy.
Amen. Stay safe out there!
Hope the rain/snow knocks the crap out of the fires.
Just coming off the mountain from Cameron Peak. Heading back in the morning.
Many thanks for what you're all doing up there. I hunted out of the Gould area other side of the peaks near there for years and spent a lot of time running up and down 14.
Be safe Hbar.
So how has this storm affected the fires?
So how has this storm affected the fires?
If it was ineffective, I'm sure we wouldn't have to be asking the question. I hear cynicism comes with experience.
If you don't know, just say so.
If you need someone to spoon feed you info, just say so.
According to 9news, some of the evacuations were lifted. No details on containment.
beast556
09-09-2020, 10:51
My parents live in ashland OR and they had high winds yesterday and it blew a wild fire in and burned down there whole nehiborhood. They had no warning and barely made it out. My mom was able to grab a pair of pants and her cpap and a pair of shoes, my dad was in the shower and put on his dirty clothes and ran out as the house was catching on fire.
Demand for Red Cross services drops as snow helps firefighters battle Cameron Peak Fire (https://kdvr.com/news/local/demand-for-red-cross-services-drop-as-snow-helps-firefighters-battle-cameron-peak-fire/)
henpecked
09-09-2020, 11:03
We have family in Scott's mills Oregon that were evacuated no word if the house and business is still standing.
My parents live in ashland OR and they had high winds yesterday and it blew a wild fire in and burned down there whole nehiborhood. They had no warning and barely made it out. My mom was able to grab a pair of pants and her cpap and a pair of shoes, my dad was in the shower and put on his dirty clothes and ran out as the house was catching on fire.
Oh no, that's really scary for them. Glad they escaped for now. I suspect a long road ahead, unfortunately.
Aloha_Shooter
09-09-2020, 17:55
My parents live in ashland OR and they had high winds yesterday and it blew a wild fire in and burned down there whole nehiborhood. They had no warning and barely made it out. My mom was able to grab a pair of pants and her cpap and a pair of shoes, my dad was in the shower and put on his dirty clothes and ran out as the house was catching on fire.
Sorry to hear about their experience but glad they got out. Some of the pictures coming out of areas devastated by these fires are unreal.
Was west of Lake George on Monday when hot, dry and windy met the smoke from Larimer County’s fire. Threw in the towel for the day. Nothing was moving and I couldn’t see the ridge across the valley. Hoping the rest of hunting season is better.
Related
https://amgreatness.com/2020/09/09/environmentalists-destroyed-californias-forests/
The catastrophic fires that have immolated millions of acres of forests in the Golden State were preventable, and for decades, everyone knew what had to be done.
A couple of people were caught in WA intentionally setting fires. I doubt what's happening in the west is 'natural'. Likely more mess fostered by the anarchists.
The mismanagement that has allowed the fuel to build for decades is adding to the problems.
Great-Kazoo
09-10-2020, 11:24
Related
https://amgreatness.com/2020/09/09/environmentalists-destroyed-californias-forests/
A couple of people were caught in WA intentionally setting fires. I doubt what's happening in the west is 'natural'. Likely more mess fostered by the anarchists.
The mismanagement that has allowed the fuel to build for decades is adding to the problems.
IMPOSSIBLE. It's climate change that's the cause. Not some gender reveal party.
https://www.latimes.com/california/newsletter/2020-09-09/fires-newsom-climate-change-essential-california
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gender-reveal-fire-party-california-wildfire/
A couple of people were caught in WA intentionally setting fires. I doubt what's happening in the west is 'natural'. Likely more mess fostered by the anarchists.
The mismanagement that has allowed the fuel to build for decades is adding to the problems.
Yes, I typed in "wildfires arson" and got a bunch of links back from CA.
Comparison between CA sky vs venus vs titan.
Can you tell the difference between California, Venus, Titan and Mars? Hint: California is the one with buildings.
https://www.universetoday.com/147706/can-you-tell-the-difference-between-california-venus-titan-and-mars-hint-california-is-the-one-with-buildings/amp/
BPTactical
09-11-2020, 11:11
Credible evidence that a substantial amount of the fires in CA, OR and WA intentionally set by ANTIFA type elements.
Great-Kazoo
09-14-2020, 20:35
while not in co or OR. The daughter sent this picture, 20 miles out from their place. In central cali
https://i.imgur.com/Y6qpXObm.jpg
IMPOSSIBLE. It's climate change that's the cause. Not some gender reveal party.
https://www.latimes.com/california/newsletter/2020-09-09/fires-newsom-climate-change-essential-california
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gender-reveal-fire-party-california-wildfire/
I heard that crap from Inslee, the WA governor. I guess he didn't notice that their annual rainfall had been higher than usual.
Blame everything but your failed policies, leftists. That couldn't possibly be related, right?
while not in co or OR. The daughter sent this picture, 20 miles out from their place. In central cali
https://i.imgur.com/Y6qpXObm.jpg
Hope the daughter is doing well. The entire west coast is pretty much burning right now.
StagLefty
09-15-2020, 19:44
A couple of people were caught in WA intentionally setting fires. I doubt what's happening in the west is 'natural'. Likely more mess fostered by the anarchists.
The mismanagement that has allowed the fuel to build for decades is adding to the problems.
If they prove that these were human caused I believe Donald should institute firing squads for the evil bastards !!!!
Aloha_Shooter
09-15-2020, 21:12
If they prove that these were human caused I believe Donald should institute firing squads for the evil bastards !!!!
Nah, this is where I agree with the Muslims. If they're proved to have caused the fires, hand them over to the victims, starting with those who had loved ones die. If they're still alive after that, they can make restitution to the people who lost property.
HBARleatherneck
09-21-2020, 20:23
Beautiful day up here at Cameron Peak. Doing some structure protection, setting up sprinklers with hose lays around homes. Watching a very large air show all day.
Fire is still active, lots of evacuation orders still.
To Bear Arms
09-21-2020, 22:02
yeah, the slurrys were flying out of RMMA most of the day today, one after another.
While we were at a batting cage, it was getting real smoky. I can smell the wood burn.
Heavy smoke smell and low visibility in Deertrail.
buffalobo
09-26-2020, 19:35
Heavy smoke smell and low visibility in Deertrail.Same here. Hazy early, smoke blew in really fast after lunch when wind changed direction.
I guess it's the Cameron Peak fire, according to the cop out here.
eddiememphis
09-26-2020, 19:41
It's nasty tonight. The pressure dropped about 2:00 and a north wind blew a lot of smoke in. Hopefully this low will have some moisture to knock this crap out of the air.
I'm not in the danger zone health-wise but taking the dog out at 5:30 wasn't pleasant. Dried out the sinuses and a bit of a sore throat.
Much like when you are standing around the ole' campfire and the wind shifts. Except here and now, you can't easily step to the other side to avoid it.
I headed to Iowa this morning on I-76 and there was considerable smoke all the way to Ogallala, NE. Never did see any blue sky today.
I love the smell of a camp fire...just not in my living room.
Pretty bad in highlands ranch this afternoon and night.
Centennial to Aurora to Watkins to Hudson to Bennett:
May as well stand directly over a shitty pine campfire.
APEXgunparts
09-26-2020, 23:07
The east central side of Colorado Springs is under heavy smoke.
It has that campfire smell.
You can see the clouds of smoke moving along.
I don't think this is going away soon.
Richard
Very smokey in Parker too.
GilpinGuy
10-16-2020, 16:20
Incredible pics here:
https://943thex.com/time-lapse-downtown-fort-collins-disappears-in-thick-smoke-wednesday/
I sure don't envy anyone working on this fire but we do appreciate the efforts.
We're about 30 miles south of the fire where it's approaching Storm Mountain and Drake but the smoke is worse than when we had the Beaver Reservoir fire only a mile away. The worst we've ever seen here, and much worse along the Peak to Peak than in Longmont. The photo doesn't show how truly grim it is.
Working on fire mitigation clearing dead wood from the property all summer. I've hauled away ~45 cu. yds. of slash this year alone. Unfortunately the county forestry sort yard that collects, composts and burns forest materials closes for the year this Saturday.
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hollohas
10-16-2020, 17:29
News says most of the smoke olume we're seeing in Denver today is from the new East Troublesome fire which blew up today I guess.
Nasty year for fires.
Working on fire mitigation clearing dead wood from the property all summer. I've hauled away ~45 cu. yds. of slash this year alone. Unfortunately the county forestry sort yard that collects, composts and burns forest materials closes for the year this Saturday.
Wood is wood. Dead trees are lower risk than green trees once the former have passed the red stage, even in the gray stage. Bigger issue is creating substantial gaps in the canopy and removing all ladder fuels.
Yeah, the orange skies are ominous. Worst since Fourmile Fire.
I saw the air quality warning on the phone today. I saw "East Troublesome" wildfire and had to wonder if "East Problematic" wildfire was already taken?
hollohas
10-16-2020, 22:26
Sitting here in my type 6 on top of glen haven, the wind is fierce. Fire is moving.
Actually we moved to storm mountain drive by monastery campsite.Praying for a break in the wind and better weather to help you guys out.
GilpinGuy
10-17-2020, 00:15
Sitting here in my type 6 on top of glen haven, the wind is fierce. Fire is moving.
Actually we moved to storm mountain drive by monastery campsite.
Good luck man. Crazy.
Sitting here in my type 6 on top of glen haven, the wind is fierce. Fire is moving.
Actually we moved to storm mountain drive by monastery campsite.
Stay safe, God bless.
Is it like this?
https://i.imgur.com/a78XtEMl.png
This one
http://weisfiresafety.com/briggsdale-fire-protection (http://weisfiresafety.com/briggsdale-fire-
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hollohas
10-17-2020, 07:37
Looks like Cameron Peak fire took a BIG run yesterday. Down to the canyon and jumped County Rd 27 which is bad news. This is infrared data from 10:30 last night.
Black line is the previous perimeter. Orange and red outside that are hot spots detected by the infrared flight. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201017/551f5db709c26bb1feda2ee5c2ecbb6c.jpg
Be careful out there HBAR.
henpecked
10-17-2020, 08:44
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henpecked
10-17-2020, 11:43
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WTH was that jet that just flew by? Small wings up front, engines near the plane body behind the main wings. Painted red/white like fire planes, just something I haven't seen before.
BPTactical
10-17-2020, 15:26
WTH was that jet that just flew by? Small wings up front, engines near the plane body behind the main wings. Painted red/white like fire planes, just something I haven't seen before.
Rutan design, forget the model. Probably a spotter/pathfinder for the slurry bombers
BPTactical
10-17-2020, 15:28
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Where is this pic taken?
thvigil11
10-17-2020, 15:33
Rutan design, forget the model. Probably a spotter/pathfinder for the slurry bombers
A-firm. They've been using those as both LEADs and Air Attack.
I've been sitting in Willits, CA parked on the August Complex. One of my ICs just got off 21 days at Cameron Peak. Been watching that pretty closely. We time out this week, but expect to get our 2 days in, then reassigned. New fires in CO, CA, AZ right now. Still plenty of potential in UT and NV. Been a crazy season for me. 95 days out of district on fire with another 23 in district back home in NM. The 2020 curse includes the wildland world.
henpecked
10-17-2020, 16:07
Where is this pic taken?
Estes park looking north
BPTactical
10-17-2020, 16:13
Estes park looking north
Thank you, I was afraid that was going to be your reply.
The Calwood fire that started today is insane too... I?m watching it from my house in Thornton on Homestead Hill and it?s glowing a ton. Lots of homes burning up Lefthand Canyon. I was trying to get up to retrieve my trail can today when I noticed the smoke south of me a few miles... wound up getting sent home by a Boulder Sheriff...good thing too. It grew rapidly.
Wednesday in Loveland the smoke from the fires made the sky in the north look apocalyptic.
Today driving south from Loveland looked the same, which was confusing until someone told me about the new fire.
Large pieces of ash are falling from the sky....
Best hopes and wishes for all those in harms way.
That's crazy. Stay safe out there!
GilpinGuy
10-17-2020, 23:43
My brother lives in Loveland and says it's almost unbearable with the smoke. And he can see the flames coming over the ridge. What a year....
Winds cleared the choking smoke by Saturday morning but we discussed leaving if it got that bad again. Then we got the mandatory evacuation order due to the Cal-Wood fire. Packed two vehicles and made it to Palisade this evening. I'm going hunting next weekend no matter what. The mountain home is out of the path of the fire so unless something new happens we'll be okay. The Cal-Wood fire grew to over 7000 acres in 6 hours....11 sq. miles.
SuperiorDG
10-18-2020, 06:33
this is the view from my neighborhood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaiTBLbwEo8
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hollohas
10-18-2020, 12:24
Much needed (but not forecast) cold front today. Was supposed to be high of 57 but it still under 40 and spitting mist all morning. Hope the fires are getting some help from this today.
Hopefully there will be less wind. Lower temps and higher humidity are welcome.
Winds cleared the choking smoke by Saturday morning but we discussed leaving if it got that bad again. Then we got the mandatory evacuation order due to the Cal-Wood fire. Packed two vehicles and made it to Palisade this evening. I'm going hunting next weekend no matter what. The mountain home is out of the path of the fire so unless something new happens we'll be okay. The Cal-Wood fire grew to over 7000 acres in 6 hours....11 sq. miles.
Hope your and your property all come thru it.
Now a fire in Lefthand Canyon about 1.5 miles east of Ward, about 5 acres so far. Now evacing Ward and Lefthand from 12 mile marker west.
SuperiorDG
10-18-2020, 13:28
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Winds cleared the choking smoke by Saturday morning but we discussed leaving if it got that bad again. Then we got the mandatory evacuation order due to the Cal-Wood fire. Packed two vehicles and made it to Palisade this evening. I'm going hunting next weekend no matter what. The mountain home is out of the path of the fire so unless something new happens we'll be okay. The Cal-Wood fire grew to over 7000 acres in 6 hours....11 sq. miles.
Glad to hear you are alright, Hummer.
Thanks, man. Sunshine and clear blue sky here in Palisade but we're intently watching the situation in Subaru County. The new fire in Lefthand might have started at a collection of junk camping sites just below Ward.
https://www.boulderoem.com/approximately-900-homes-in-the-evacuation-zone/
(https://www.boulderoem.com/approximately-900-homes-in-the-evacuation-zone/)It could quickly move up the mountain toward Gold Hill Road. (https://www.boulderoem.com/approximately-900-homes-in-the-evacuation-zone/)
I've got friends, in Ward, packing as we speak.
Me too. Evac order now includes Gold Hill and north including Gold Lake and Spring Gulch. Sounds like the fire has gone from 5 acres to 100 acres in half an hour.
SuperiorDG
10-18-2020, 14:59
Seeing the smoke plume from my house in Wonderve now, like yesterday.
GilpinGuy
10-18-2020, 19:56
Thanks, man. Sunshine and clear blue sky here in Palisade but we're intently watching the situation in Subaru County. The new fire in Lefthand might have started at a collection of junk camping sites just below Ward.
https://www.boulderoem.com/approximately-900-homes-in-the-evacuation-zone/
(https://www.boulderoem.com/approximately-900-homes-in-the-evacuation-zone/)It could quickly move up the mountain toward Gold Hill Road. (https://www.boulderoem.com/approximately-900-homes-in-the-evacuation-zone/)
Just sent you a PM but I see you left already. Glad your safe.
GilpinGuy
10-18-2020, 19:57
Seeing the smoke plume from my house in Wonderve now, like yesterday.
You have a place in Wondervu? We should get a marg one of these days.
update 10/19/2020 0700. From Nederland Fire Dept
We do not have much new news on either the Calwood Fire or the fire by Ward. But, we can pass on what we do know.
Ward Fire: last night we pulled our engine out ay 8pm, our tender spent the night supporting ongoing operations. It was about 300 acres. Basically it was about 2.5 miles long and rather skinny , burning on ridge tops heading East from MM 14. Terrain and fire activity was too extreme to do any indirect attack. Crews spent the day using the road as a fire break and keeping the fire from crossing it an threatening areas to the South. After the breezes last night, who knows, but we expect it to continue going East. But, if you have lived up here for any amount of time, winds can shift. We expect a significant amount of air attack on it for today, if they can fly in these winds. There is a still a significant potential for this to go bad. Cause is still under investigation.
CalWood Fire: Fire activity yesterday was mild. There was an inversion in Boulder that helped keep the fire calm. Driving down Lefthand Canyon, it transitioned from driving into smoke to driving into wet fog at about MM8. But, all bets are now off. The inversion has lifted and the wind is strong. We expect significant fire activity there today.
The whole fire is now being managed by a type 2 incident management team. We expect them to wrap command over both of these fires in an "area command". Resources are coming in from areas as far as Pennsylvania and Washington state. We thank them.
To emphasize, Nederland Fire is here for you today. We are well staffed and prepared. Volunteers are cancelling work and family plans to support our community. Without our volunteers , we simply could not do this. We have been coordinating with Timberline Fire and Sugarloaf to share resources over our geographic area. This way we can ensure solid coverage for our own residents' homes , while we go defend our neighbors (and friends) homes. Cooperation and teamwork is the name of the game.
We will post updates as the day unfolds.
Thank-you
Am I the only one thinking the sudden ignition of 3 major new fires in late fall screams serial arson? Likely someone trying to add to the chaos just before a major election? Call me crazy, but it seems way too coincidental...
R yuz' one o' dem thar constipation theorrorists ?
Am I the only one thinking the sudden ignition of 3 major new fires in late fall screams serial arson? Likely someone trying to add to the chaos just before a major election? Call me crazy, but it seems way too coincidental...
No, you?re not the only one. I?ve actually seen video of an arsonist in Oregon....so it is happening. I don?t know anything about how ours have started but I agree it does seem highly coincidental to me.
There were a couple of arrests here in WA where 'activists' were actually arsonists.
hollohas
10-20-2020, 15:06
USFS closed all forest lands in Jefferson, Clear Creek, Gilpin, Boulder and Larimer Counties.
https://twitter.com/usfsarp/status/1318641883124551685?s=10
.455_Hunter
10-20-2020, 15:11
USFS closed all forest lands in Jefferson, Clear Creek, Gilpin, Boulder and Larimer Counties.
https://twitter.com/usfsarp/status/1318641883124551685?s=10
I am surprised that didn't occur sooner.
hollohas
10-20-2020, 16:37
Lots of hunters won't be happy.
.455_Hunter
10-20-2020, 17:09
Lots of hunters won't be happy.
Two of the three main spots I like to hunt have already burned or are burning now.
GilpinGuy
10-20-2020, 20:49
Two of the three main spots I like to hunt have already burned or are burning now.
My deer hunting area is a long way off from the fires. Refunds coming or do the peasants just suck it like usual?
Storm rolling in this weekend should quiet things down and end the closures; just one more day of concern. The briefing tonight was superb, lots of information. A huge improvement over previous major events here, or elsewhere in CONUS.
https://youtu.be/D-XB8eektjY
My deer hunting area is a long way off from the fires. Refunds coming or do the peasants just suck it like usual?
Refunds are available for closed areas but must be applied for a day before season begins.
I have a buck tag for 3rd season in area 20 but I doubt the Forest Service will end the forest closure by then.
GilpinGuy
10-21-2020, 07:47
Refunds are available for closed areas but must be applied for a day before season begins.
I have a buck tag for 3rd season in area 20 but I doubt the Forest Service will end the forest closure by then.
Good to know. I got 2nd season buck in 38. I don't see them opening anything in 6 days. Damn.
Update 10/21/2020
We apologize for not getting an update out sooner. Our crews have been busy.
First, We are not out of the woods yet. We have a red flag warning from Noon today until 0800 tomorrow. This is for high winds and low humidity. Let us all be vigilant for the next few days.
If you think you see something, say something (stolen from TSA). If you think you see smoke or are just not sure, call 911. But, please provide your contact number and wait for us to arrive. That way you can point out exactly what you are seeing. Please, do not call station or members cell phones. It just slows everything down.
Nederland has 1 type 6 engine (Brush truck) out on the Callwood/lefthand fire. We are rotating crews and engine bosses. WE still have adequate resources available to our own district and there is no reduction in service. We will continue to keep this engine on this fire until it is no longer needed. We are working with crews and engines from WA, PA, NC, OR, TX and all over the US. Being a local resource, we bring added value and local knowledge to the table.
Yesterday, our engine was in Lyons protecting a subdivision (Lyons Park) there. Fire activity down there was pretty minimal. The expected wind even did not materialize. The day was spent re-enforcing lines and working on improving structure protection. We do not have any new information on the Lefthand fire by Ward other than Indian Peaks fire recruited its own handcrew and put in some good line protecting the town. Those men and women are doing a great job.
One of the key items that can get overlooked in fires like these is our local people. Not just Nederland Firefighters, but other locals. The incident commander is also a patroller at Eldora. Actually several Eldora ski patrollers are out there. The cook at crosscut is out there. Gilpin County residents are running animal evacuation. Nederland Police have been assisting. Ward residents are making lunches. In short, we all know each other. Mountain area friends and neighbors put aside their regular jobs and come together to go after this fire and support crews. When we meet to brief for tactics, we already know most of the players. It is an immense help.
We truly appreciate the outpouring of offers from local businesses and restaurants. Someday, not today, we will take you up on those offers.
Lets get through the next 48 hours
Headed towards Longmont this afternoon
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Good to know. I got 2nd season buck in 38. I don't see them opening anything in 6 days. Damn.
Mandatory evac for Grand Lake. Hwy 34 both lanes southbound...
Our 2nd rifle Deer is a bust.
Guess I will get a refund after all. Received an email from CPW yesterday.
.455_Hunter
10-21-2020, 23:09
The Grand County scanner was sobering this evening.
hollohas
10-22-2020, 07:12
Very scary stuff up there at East Troublesome. 19k acres up to 125k...
Very scary stuff up there at East Troublesome. 19k acres up to 125k...
holy crap that's a true explosion. God be with those people and fire fighters!
buffalobo
10-22-2020, 07:36
The Grand County scanner was sobering this evening.Have had to limit scanner listening last couple weeks. Too much bad stuff is hard on the nerves.
Very scary stuff up there at East Troublesome. 19k acres up to 125k...
Really crazy when you consider it was 38* when I left for work this morning. There was a stiff breeze though.
.455_Hunter
10-22-2020, 09:20
The area that exploded yesterday was essentially a forest of dead trees. Nothing you can do when it's dry and windy.
SuperiorDG
10-22-2020, 09:42
I'm at 8300 ft and it was 54 degrees when I left this AM. A breeze was blowing as well.
My porch cam shows sunny weather right now.
BPTactical
10-22-2020, 09:59
The area that exploded yesterday was essentially a forest of dead trees. Nothing you can do when it's dry and windy.
I remember looking at Shadow Mountain years ago and thinking it would go up like a dry dandelion.
Every place I've ever hunted is full of dead fall that looks like it would be catastrophic if it ever caught fire.
hollohas
10-22-2020, 10:55
I assumed that the continental divide and treeline would stop the eastern advance of the East Troublesome fire. But there are some heat signatures that indicate it may have jumped over to the east side of the divide anyway. Seems unlikely to me, but I guess flying embers could end up anywhere with the 100,000 acre explosion last night. That smoke/heat/ember plume must have been massive.
https://twitter.com/weather_west/status/1319315523251834881?s=10
.455_Hunter
10-22-2020, 11:35
Ugh- Estes Park Fire and EMS scanner confirms some fire activity near confluence of Spruce Creek and Forest Canyon on the east-side of the divide.
henpecked
10-22-2020, 11:42
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hollohas
10-22-2020, 12:31
Ugh- Estes Park Fire and EMS scanner confirms some fire activity near confluence of Spruce Creek and Forest Canyon on the east-side of the divide.That's a good way down from the divide already. It's a clear shot from there to Estes Park.
wow, that picture, just WOW...a fire totally out of control. ..
.455_Hunter
10-22-2020, 12:51
wow, that picture, just WOW...a fire totally out of control. ..
The final act of Mother Nature following the beetle plan for forest rejuvenation.
The final act of Mother Nature following the beetle plan for forest rejuvenation.
I believe you're following the correct timeline.
Over-forestation due to wild mis-management, beetle comes in and kills all the weakened trees that have been growing far, far too closely together, then fire to clean up the mess.
Next spring we'll get to see the meadows, grass, and flowers that couldn't grow well because of the dense canopy of weak pine trees.
Apparently the East Troublesome fire has crested the divide and I saw a report of fire at Bear Lake in RMNP. Larimer county has issued a voluntary evac for west Estes Park.
Scanner out there is going nuts.
.455_Hunter
10-22-2020, 13:48
Over-forestation due to wild mis-management, beetle comes in and kills all the weakened trees that have been growing far, far too closely together, then fire to clean up the mess.
Yes- Unfortunately, the process comes at a price to the people who have invested their lives in such an area.
Yes- Unfortunately, the process comes at a price to the people who have invested their lives in such an area.
Agreed, it doesn't have to be that way.
Logging needs reinstated to keep groves far enough appart go slow/stop beatle migration.
GilpinGuy
10-22-2020, 16:47
Foggy as hell and some flakes falling at my place. Maybe a miracle, freak snowfall will happen. Anything!
Logging needs reinstated to keep groves far enough appart go slow/stop beatle migration.
That’s what fires used to do. Until we stopped letting things burn many years ago. Look what stopped some of the recent fires in NOCO, old burn scars.
GilpinGuy
10-22-2020, 17:32
Apparently the East Troublesome fire has crested the divide and I saw a report of fire at Bear Lake in RMNP. Larimer county has issued a voluntary evac for west Estes Park.
The fire map I'm looking at has the fire about 1/2 a mile from Fern Lake in RMNP, where I was fishing 2 weeks ago. Damn shame. I hope the Greenbacks survive if it gets hit.
hollohas
10-22-2020, 18:01
Video of some firefighters driving up 34 at 2:38pm today. Pitch black out
https://www.facebook.com/281762148592177/posts/3021781447923553/
Video of some firefighters driving up 34 at 2:38pm today. Pitch black out
https://www.facebook.com/281762148592177/posts/3021781447923553/
Wasn’t much different in south Fort Collins and north Loveland a bit ago. Had a crew check in around 3 asking for headlamps, somewhat jokingly.
GilpinGuy
10-22-2020, 18:20
Wasn’t much different in south Fort Collins and north Loveland a bit ago. Had a crew check in around 3 asking for headlamps, somewhat jokingly.
Yeah, I sent that link to my brother in Loveland and he said the same thing.
hollohas
10-22-2020, 18:43
Troublesome is 170,000 acres now.
Troublesome is 170,000 acres now.
At least it’s properly named for a change.
On another note, last week our vehicles were bathed in smoke from the fires. Today I took my truck and wife's car to the car wash. The odor of smoke washed off and aerosolized around me. I'm glad to be shed of it.
At least it’s properly named for a change.
I think the name is now inadequate as that blaze is an overachiever.
BushMasterBoy
10-22-2020, 21:48
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GilpinGuy
10-22-2020, 22:02
Those changes were based 100% on poll numbers bro! [LOL]
.455_Hunter
10-23-2020, 05:01
Later last night, the NWS indicated no hot spots on the east side of the divide in RMNP that they could detect with their satellites. Maybe the cold and wet did start to help?
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That's our subdivision on Granby
hollohas
10-23-2020, 06:19
Sheriff Smith posted an update and said the weather did help slow the advance of the Troublesome fire. He said it is hung up around Fern and Odessa lakes but that they don't know for certain because they can't directly see it. They had expected it to enter Estes yesterday evening but the weather helped prevent that from happening. Thank God for that.
Hope they can get some containment on all these fires over this weekend while the weather stays cool.
Another good tool for tracking the fires:
https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/
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That's our subdivision on Granby
Man, I'm so sorry!
henpecked
10-23-2020, 11:20
Granby
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Thanks Tfogger, crazy how fast it grew!
Bailey Guns
10-23-2020, 13:21
That fire is just a monster... I'm so sorry for those of you who've suffered losses from this.
Batteriesnare
10-23-2020, 16:25
Granby
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My parents lived about 200 yards up the road from this picture. Moved out last year, but lots of awesome memories there. So sad to see.
My parents lived about 200 yards up the road from this picture. Moved out last year, but lots of awesome memories there. So sad to see.
Wow, that is an awesome picture.
Stay safe
.455_Hunter
10-24-2020, 08:52
Not good in RMNP and Estes Park this morning. The east side crossover fire has blown-up.
Batteriesnare
10-24-2020, 12:52
Brush fire on 25 by USAFA, 25 sb closed.
henpecked
10-24-2020, 13:47
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.455_Hunter
10-24-2020, 14:11
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When the hillside looks gray, that's not a good thing.
henpecked
10-24-2020, 14:19
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I believe this was taken between Hot sulfur Springs and Kremmling earlier this week. View is looking north from highway 40
henpecked
10-24-2020, 14:22
Just got word it's not looking good for the west side and north of Estes
That's not good news! Hopefully the cooler temps and snow will help containment
I'm seeing rain and snow on the radar over fire areas.
I'm seeing rain and snow on the radar over fire areas.
God, please let it snow and rain on these fires, and put them all out!
I just looked at the weather forecast map too, and it’s looking promising most of tomorrow, starting early morning hours overnight tonight.
Bring on the precipitation. Whatever form we get, it’s welcome!
beast556
10-25-2020, 13:02
Hopefully this snow is heavy enough to put the fire out.
Hopefully LOTS of snow.
Wet wood doesn't catch fire as easily as the tinderbox they have had to deal with.
Hopefully LOTS of snow.
Wet wood doesn't catch fire as easily as the tinderbox they have had to deal with.
The litter on the forest floor also gets covered. Slows things down a bit.
newracer
10-25-2020, 15:58
Hopefully this snow is heavy enough to put the fire out.
They have already stated that this will not likely put them out.
henpecked
10-25-2020, 16:13
Looks like Estes Park has at least 6 inches of snow on the ground.
They have already stated that this will not likely put them out.
I agree it?s not likely given the surprise snow we had in September didn?t hamper the Cameron Peak Fire all that much, but every little bit helps and let?s the firefighters get that much further along in building defensible spaces where needed. I?d bet at the very least the snow through Monday will be influential in significantly improving the containment.
And getting them some well deserved rest.
henpecked
10-25-2020, 17:53
Sunday 5:45 just off the peak to peak highway and Switzerland trail.
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Awesome! This should definitely help with some containment and give the crews some needed rest
henpecked
10-26-2020, 07:43
Nederland last night
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Investigation into the cause and origin of the Calwood Fire is complete
Boulder County Colorado sent this bulletin at 02/10/2021 02:20 PM MST
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BoCoSheriff
For Immediate Release
Feb. 10, 2021
Media Contact
Public Information Unit, 303-441-1500
Investigation into the cause and origin of the Calwood Fire is complete
Boulder County, Colo. - The Boulder County Sheriff?s Office has completed their investigation into the cause of the Calwood Fire. Based on physical evidence and interviews the cause of the fire is undetermined.
Sheriff?s detectives began their investigation into the cause and origin of the fire immediately after assisting with the evacuations of homes in the path of the fire. Detectives worked with investigators and personnel from the Boulder County Multi-Agency Fire Investigation Team, U.S. Forest Service, Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives, Colorado Division of Fire Prevention and Control, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
Investigators interviewed numerous people during investigative efforts and followed up on tips from community members. Interviews included landowners, neighbors, and recreators who had been in the area before and immediately after the fire started, as well as from federal firefighting personnel who were overhead in aircraft within minutes after the fire was initially reported. Investigators were able to determine the fire started within an area within a 500-foot radius, however there was no known cause established.
The Lefthand Fire is still under investigation by U.S. Forest Service investigators. Sheriff?s investigators assisted with early portions of that investigation; however the entire investigation is being handled by the U.S. Forest Service at this time.
Investigators do not believe the fires are related.
The associated Boulder County Sheriff's Office case number is: 20-4630.
Additional Fire Information:
The Calwood Fire was first reported to the Boulder County Sheriff?s Office Communications Center on Saturday, October 17 at 12:06pm. The initial report indicated smoke and was soon confirmed as a one-acre wildfire outside of Jamestown in the vicinity of the Cal-Wood Education Center off County Road 87. This fire would become known as the Calwood Fire. The fire grew quickly due to the dry conditions and strong west winds; homes as far as Hygiene were part of the initial evacuation area due to the rapid rate of spread of nearly a thousand acres per hour.
On Sunday, October 18 at approximately 12:30 p.m., the Communications Center received a report of a second wildfire outside of Ward. This fire would become known as the Lefthand Canyon Fire.
The Calwood Fire burned 10,113 acres, had 26 structures lost or damaged, and reached 100% containment on Saturday, November 14. The Lefthand Canyon Fire burned 460 acres, had no structures lost, and reached 100% containment on Thursday, October 22. The estimated cost of resources spent on the fires is $6.6 million. There were no fatalities resulting from either fire.
The Communications Center sent evacuation orders to 4,925 contacts and evacuation warnings to 4,773 contacts. An estimated 967 animals were sheltered between the Boulder County Fairgrounds (562), Longmont Humane Society (96), and the Humane Society of Boulder Valley (27). In coordination with the American Red Cross, approximately 1,800 people were sheltered in eight different hotels. This number includes evacuees from surrounding wildfires outside of Boulder County that were occurring at the same time.
As the fires grew resources from nearly every first responder agency in Boulder County responded to assist with the suppression efforts, evacuations, roadblocks, etc. The Type III Boulder Incident Management Team and the Type II Team Black Incident Management Team were also activated for the fires.
BPTactical
02-10-2021, 19:10
Investigation into the cause and origin of the Calwood Fire is complete
Boulder County Colorado sent this bulletin at 02/10/2021 02:20 PM MST
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BoCoSheriff
For Immediate Release
Feb. 10, 2021
Media Contact
Public Information Unit, 303-441-1500
Investigation into the cause and origin of the Calwood Fire is complete
Boulder County, Colo. - The Boulder County Sheriff?s Office has completed their investigation into the cause of the Calwood Fire. Based on physical evidence and interviews the cause of the fire is undetermined.
Sheriff?s detectives began their investigation into the cause and origin of the fire immediately after assisting with the evacuations of homes in the path of the fire. Detectives worked with investigators and personnel from the Boulder County Multi-Agency Fire Investigation Team, U.S. Forest Service, Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives, Colorado Division of Fire Prevention and Control, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
Investigators interviewed numerous people during investigative efforts and followed up on tips from community members. Interviews included landowners, neighbors, and recreators who had been in the area before and immediately after the fire started, as well as from federal firefighting personnel who were overhead in aircraft within minutes after the fire was initially reported. Investigators were able to determine the fire started within an area within a 500-foot radius, however there was no known cause established.
The Lefthand Fire is still under investigation by U.S. Forest Service investigators. Sheriff?s investigators assisted with early portions of that investigation; however the entire investigation is being handled by the U.S. Forest Service at this time.
Investigators do not believe the fires are related.
The associated Boulder County Sheriff's Office case number is: 20-4630.
Additional Fire Information:
The Calwood Fire was first reported to the Boulder County Sheriff?s Office Communications Center on Saturday, October 17 at 12:06pm. The initial report indicated smoke and was soon confirmed as a one-acre wildfire outside of Jamestown in the vicinity of the Cal-Wood Education Center off County Road 87. This fire would become known as the Calwood Fire. The fire grew quickly due to the dry conditions and strong west winds; homes as far as Hygiene were part of the initial evacuation area due to the rapid rate of spread of nearly a thousand acres per hour.
On Sunday, October 18 at approximately 12:30 p.m., the Communications Center received a report of a second wildfire outside of Ward. This fire would become known as the Lefthand Canyon Fire.
The Calwood Fire burned 10,113 acres, had 26 structures lost or damaged, and reached 100% containment on Saturday, November 14. The Lefthand Canyon Fire burned 460 acres, had no structures lost, and reached 100% containment on Thursday, October 22. The estimated cost of resources spent on the fires is $6.6 million. There were no fatalities resulting from either fire.
The Communications Center sent evacuation orders to 4,925 contacts and evacuation warnings to 4,773 contacts. An estimated 967 animals were sheltered between the Boulder County Fairgrounds (562), Longmont Humane Society (96), and the Humane Society of Boulder Valley (27). In coordination with the American Red Cross, approximately 1,800 people were sheltered in eight different hotels. This number includes evacuees from surrounding wildfires outside of Boulder County that were occurring at the same time.
As the fires grew resources from nearly every first responder agency in Boulder County responded to assist with the suppression efforts, evacuations, roadblocks, etc. The Type III Boulder Incident Management Team and the Type II Team Black Incident Management Team were also activated for the fires.
Not enough guts to blame “Those Experiencing Homelessness”??
SideShow Bob
02-10-2021, 19:39
Not enough guts to blame “Those Experiencing Homelessness”??
Why are you speaking Democrapese ?
Call them what they are, Vandalizing Arsonistic Vagrants.
Sad that no one will lay the blame.
Great-Kazoo
02-11-2021, 01:41
Sad that no one will lay the blame.
Like when they have an I.D of the attacker, but don't release it?
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