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08-17-2020, 19:01
Where are we failing?
What did we do?
.455_Hunter
08-17-2020, 19:10
As younger X'er (1976), it seems like we are cautiously sitting in the shadows watching the Boomers and the Millennials battle it out, while we build wealth and power behind the headlines. I also am watching Gen Z, and yes, some are diehard Lefties, but it's amazing how many of my son's friends here in Boulder are rejecting Progressive stupidity.
Your take maybe entirely different...
Where are we failing?
What did we do?
Time-outs didn't work. Honestly, who'd have thunk it?!
Great-Kazoo
08-17-2020, 21:17
Where are we failing?
What did we do?
In general. We allowed the education system to act as guardians while the kids were in school. Being fed If your parents hit you, report it, That's child abuse.
No one's a loser, everybody's a winner.
Physical education became a non exercising routine. Playground / lunch break took monkey bars, dodge ball and who knows what else out of the picture. .
History? well lets not go there. Same for the rest of the system.
Helicopter parents (but that's a forever thing)
Oh yeah Parents who were more interested in raising & treating their offspring as a kid sister, or brother / BFF rather than be a parent.
Gen X is all over the board. I've read that Gen Z is supposedly more conservative than the previous generations.. We'll see.
Schools changing from teaching people how to think to teaching people what to think.
Everything having to be a learning experience instead of things being simply for enjoyment.
Ehh . . . the education system, social media and peer pressure all influenced heavily by that are highly progressive. It's hard to compete with. I have 2 college-aged kids. My son is pretty fiercely libertarian. My daughter is leaning vegan and buys into most of the progressive rhetoric. Both rasied the same way.
Kids have to make their own decisions and their own mistakes. Unfortunately, a ton of kids are buying what the leftists are selling and they probably won't realize they were backing the wrong horse until it's their wallets getting raped by Uncle Marx.
Delfuego
08-17-2020, 22:44
https://gizmodo.com/generation-x-is-sick-of-your-bullshit-5851062
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Most call them Gen X or Y, I call them the Borg.
The Gen Y and to a lesser degree X are the Borg. They go through life connected to the collective with a handheld device that they all stare at all day long. They appear to be in a trance. No one knows who is telling them what they should know, some say it is bots controlled by Bloomberg and Soros. They all went thru the public school indoctrination program for 12 years and on to advanced training (college) as future America haters. I believe that at night a subliminal message is played over and over while they sleep, “Democrat Good, Republican Bad”. If you confront a Gen X/Y’er they defend their wrong position as if they have been there done that when all they did was watch a U-Tube video. I used to just chalk it up as they just don’t know what they don’t know and someday they will learn the truth. I’m starting to think they will continue in life never finding the truth, a lot like Hippies did in the 60’s. They just want to believe what they think they “should” believe. And because they can go online and have their position validated, they believe they are smarter than you. When they vote it’s always democrat because they believe that the Boomers just picked the wrong democrat and they will pick a better democrat, a lot like people from other states moving here.
I know there are always exception to this. Some grew up with actual adult supervision, a knowledgeable mentor or did actual research from credible sources and turned out to be self-thinking people. This seems to be the exception rather than the rule.
.455_Hunter
08-18-2020, 10:56
Most call them Gen X or Y, I call them the Borg.
The Gen Y and to a lesser degree X are the Borg. They go through life connected to the collective with a handheld device that they all stare at all day long. They appear to be in a trance. No one knows who is telling them what they should know, some say it is bots controlled by Bloomberg and Soros. They all went thru the public school indoctrination program for 12 years and on to advanced training (college) as future America haters. I believe that at night a subliminal message is played over and over while they sleep, “Democrat Good, Republican Bad”. If you confront a Gen X/Y’er they defend their wrong position as if they have been there done that when all they did was watch a U-Tube video. I used to just chalk it up as they just don’t know what they don’t know and someday they will learn the truth. I’m starting to think they will continue in life never finding the truth, a lot like Hippies did in the 60’s. They just want to believe what they think they “should” believe. And because they can go online and have their position validated, they believe they are smarter than you. When they vote it’s always democrat because they believe that the Boomers just picked the wrong democrat and they will pick a better democrat, a lot like people from other states moving here.
I know there are always exception to this. Some grew up with actual adult supervision, a knowledgeable mentor or did actual research from credible sources and turned out to be self-thinking people. This seems to be the exception rather than the rule.
There is a huge difference between X and Y (Millennial). I noticed it even at 17 with the younger people in my Scout Troop. When I was 11, we did a week long 50 mile backpack trip in the Tetons. When I was 17, getting a 12 year old to carry his sleeping bag from the car 200 yards to the campsite was drama. At the time, I was like "What the hell is wrong with these kids?"- now we know...
We're bitching about the kids our generation (boomers) raised.
Whenever you turn your children over to a K-12 system run by pseudo-intellectual liberals, you have essentially let the 'system' train the children to believe the party line.
Somewhere, I forget where, someone said 'Give me a child to train from 6 to 12, and I will have him for life'. I'm not going to look up the reference.
Plato had the same complaints about the generation following his own.
I'm pretty sure everyone complaints about "those damn kids" going back either 200,000 or 5,999 years ago, depending on who you ask.
I view it as developmental milestones for the elderly. Kind of like how they track clapping and smiling for babys, if Grandpa isn't bitching about a lawn or those damn kids, he might be developmentally delayed.
.455_Hunter
08-18-2020, 18:57
I'm pretty sure everyone complaints about "those damn kids" going back either 200,000 or 5,999 years ago, depending on who you ask.
I view it as developmental milestones for the elderly. Kind of like how they track clapping and smiling for babys, if Grandpa isn't bitching about a lawn or those damn kids, he might be developmentally delayed.
In my case, however, they were only 5 years younger, not 55.
Where are we failing?
What did we do?
I remember the great generation saying this about the boomers.
I'm a first year Gen X'er, so damn near a boomer. People criticizing Gen X for staring into a smartphone all day have to remember that most Gen X grew up without the Internet. We had to do research at the library, document it, then write it up on a typewriter. My first opportunity to use a computer was my Sr. year in high school in a class known as "Computer Math", because they didn't know what to call it. Writing programs in Apple Basic (stored on 5 1/4" floppies) and running them on Apple II and IIe computers.
My parents raised me very much like they were raised, including not sparing the rod. From what I understand of my generation, they tend to be conservative.
My parents (of the Silent Generation) thought the music I liked was "all noise", and I'd have to say the same for much of the music in the generations that followed mine. [Coffee]
Delfuego
08-18-2020, 21:20
Most call them Gen X or Y, I call them the Borg.
The Gen Y and to a lesser degree X are the Borg. They go through life connected to the collective with a handheld device that they all stare at all day long. They appear to be in a trance. No one knows who is telling them what they should know, some say it is bots controlled by Bloomberg and Soros. They all went thru the public school indoctrination program for 12 years and on to advanced training (college) as future America haters. I believe that at night a subliminal message is played over and over while they sleep, “Democrat Good, Republican Bad”. If you confront a Gen X/Y’er they defend their wrong position as if they have been there done that when all they did was watch a U-Tube video. I used to just chalk it up as they just don’t know what they don’t know and someday they will learn the truth. I’m starting to think they will continue in life never finding the truth, a lot like Hippies did in the 60’s. They just want to believe what they think they “should” believe. And because they can go online and have their position validated, they believe they are smarter than you. When they vote it’s always democrat because they believe that the Boomers just picked the wrong democrat and they will pick a better democrat, a lot like people from other states moving here.
I know there are always exception to this. Some grew up with actual adult supervision, a knowledgeable mentor or did actual research from credible sources and turned out to be self-thinking people. This seems to be the exception rather than the rule.GenX is sick of your shit too. That's sure is a lot of talking, name calling and blaming others. Good luck with that.
Delfuego
08-18-2020, 21:29
We're bitching about the kids our generation (boomers) raised.Not quite. My parents were depression children not boomers. We raised ourselves. We cooked for ourselves and our siblings. We had jobs at 12 or 13. We came home by dark. We fought our own bully's. We didn't get handouts out participation medals. We are simple book-ended to to much selfishness and self importance. We are outvoted by everyone else. "Clowns to the left of me jokers to the right".
.455_Hunter
08-18-2020, 21:45
My parent were depression children not boomers.
Yup- My Dad remembers being a small boy at home after church on a Sunday in December when the SHTF.
"Clowns to the left of me jokers to the right". Great motto for Gen X!
Not quite. My parent were depression children not boomers. We raised ourselves. We cooked for ourselves and our siblings. We had jobs at 12 or 13. We came home by dark. We fought our own bully's. We didn't get handouts out participation medals. We are simple book-ended to to much selfishness and self importance. We are outvoted by everyone else. "Clowns to the left of me jokers to the right".
Sounds pretty familiar. My folks had parents that were part of the Lost Generation (my dad's father was born in the 19th century and fought in WWI). They were born during the Great Depression and were used to not having anything they didn't have to work for. They had similar expectations of my sister and I. Dad was drafted for the Korean War. Are those complaining about Gen X aware that some of us "crazy kids" are in our mid-50s? [Pop]
Great-Kazoo
08-19-2020, 00:03
Not quite. My parents were depression children not boomers. We raised ourselves. We cooked for ourselves and our siblings. We had jobs at 12 or 13. We came home by dark. We fought our own bully's. We didn't get handouts out participation medals. We are simple book-ended to to much selfishness and self importance. We are outvoted by everyone else. "Clowns to the left of me jokers to the right".
Likewise.
As our daughter was raised also. Her first job @ 14 was getting up at 4 a.m to feed cows at a small family run dairy.
She's worked since then, including a 5 yr stint in the .mil.
Has run her own business since 2017, as well as raising and selling livestock for a hobby. Not bad for a soon to be 37 yr old .
Likewise.
As our daughter was raised also. Her first job @ 14 was getting up at 4 a.m to feed cows at a small family run dairy.
She's worked since then, including a 5 yr stint in the .mil.
Has run her own business since 2017, as well as raising and selling livestock for a hobby. Not bad for a soon to be 37 yr old .
[Awesom]
.455_Hunter
08-19-2020, 10:19
Likewise.
As our daughter was raised also. Her first job @ 14 was getting up at 4 a.m to feed cows at a small family run dairy.
She's worked since then, including a 5 yr stint in the .mil.
Has run her own business since 2017, as well as raising and selling livestock for a hobby. Not bad for a soon to be 37 yr old .
Sounds like she is outstanding!
Not quite. My parents were depression children not boomers. We raised ourselves. We cooked for ourselves and our siblings. We had jobs at 12 or 13. We came home by dark. We fought our own bully's. We didn't get handouts out participation medals. We are simple book-ended to to much selfishness and self importance. We are outvoted by everyone else. "Clowns to the left of me jokers to the right".
I was referring to boomer's children, not your parents children. There will always be exceptions to the generalizations, stereotypes, or other characteristics assigned a group.
I was referring to boomer's children, not your parents children. There will always be exceptions to the generalizations, stereotypes, or other characteristics assigned a group.
...but of course.
So, Somebody care to put these generational titles into some sort of chronological order for me?
I'm pretty sure I'm not a boomer and I'm definitely not a millennial but gen X just doesn't sound right either.
So, Somebody care to put these generational titles into some sort of chronological order for me?
I'm pretty sure I'm not a boomer and I'm definitely not a millennial but gen X just doesn't sound right either.
What year were you born?
What year were you born?
Well, it would be silly for 1970 to be part of my user name if it had no meaning. [Sarcasm2]
Well, it would be silly for 1970 to be part of my user name if it had no meaning. [Sarcasm2]
Gen X- 1965-1980
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X
Thanks. I guess I just never knew I was a gen Xer.
Great-Kazoo
08-19-2020, 22:07
Thanks. I guess I just never knew I was a gen Xer.
Not the Pepsi Generation?
I have no clue and really not concerned what " gen i'm in. None of them pay the bills for you, if you're not working.
MTV GEN BRUH!
[Punker][music][DJ]
MTV GEN BRUH!
[Punker][music][DJ]
Yeah, back when MTV played music videos.
http://youtu.be/8N3NC6gx-wg
Well, it would be silly for 1970 to be part of my user name if it had no meaning. [Sarcasm2]
Yeah, you are square in the gen X range.
Welcome to the club.
And for the record, I was not born in the year 890...
Yeah, you are square in the gen X range.
Welcome to the club.
And for the record, I was not born in the year 890...
That?s just what a time traveler from 890 would say...... [emoji848]
That?s just what a time traveler from 890 would say...... [emoji848]
If I’m traveling through time, I’m sure as hell skipping 2020! lol
Yeah, back when MTV played music videos.
http://youtu.be/8N3NC6gx-wg
I ve heard that MTV is now a reality show TV type.
Great-Kazoo
08-20-2020, 12:47
If I’m traveling through time, I’m sure as hell skipping 2020! lol
Plausible deniability from someone stuck here, in this era.
There's a clock tower in Aurora that might help you get back..
battlemidget
08-20-2020, 14:22
Yall think this is bad, just wait til Gen A comes of age.
https://i.imgur.com/Od2BB51.jpg
If I?m traveling through time, I?m sure as hell skipping 2020! lol
If we had a like button this would be the most worthy post ever to use it on.
https://i.imgur.com/Od2BB51.jpg
LOL, Only if he can travel 205 years future...
Aloha_Shooter
08-21-2020, 08:52
LOL, Only if he can travel 205 years future...
Well, no worries about chalk dust today ... running out of paper is a whole other issue ...
LOL, Only if he can travel 205 years future...
I distinctly remember my middle school math teacher telling us that it's important to be able to do math long-handed, on paper because
What are you going to do? Carry a calculator with you everywhere you go?
battlemidget
08-21-2020, 09:33
Well, no worries about chalk dust today ... running out of paper is a whole other issue ...
That principal would be pleased to know what most people's daily use of paper is today.
I distinctly remember my middle school math teacher telling us that it's important to be able to do math long-handed, on paper because
Ha. Yep. Funny.
I bet he had no idea that one day just about everyone would carry a calculator, dictionary, thesaurus, world atlas, a full set of encyclopedias, a camera with limitless supply of film, a video camera, a flashlight, and probably some other things that are slipping my mind around with them 24/7.
Bailey Guns
08-21-2020, 11:56
Ha. Yep. Funny.
I bet he had no idea that one day just about everyone would carry a calculator, dictionary, thesaurus, world atlas, a full set of encyclopedias, a camera with limitless supply of film, a video camera, a flashlight, and probably some other things that are slipping my mind around with them 24/7.
Umm...a phone.
Ha. Yep. Funny.
I bet he had no idea that one day just about everyone would carry a calculator, dictionary, thesaurus, world atlas, a full set of encyclopedias, a camera with limitless supply of film, a video camera, a flashlight, and probably some other things that are slipping my mind around with them 24/7.
....and nude pictures or worse of at least 1/100 of the worlds population. Some of our ancestors would have pretty much given up knowing the future. Still, others would be trying to get time machine to get one of those "sell telegraph pocket machines" so maybe they could finally see Abigail's bosoms, that wretch that scorned them so.
Umm...a phone.
Pfft. Nobody makes calls anymore.
Do you even text, bro?
Ha. Yep. Funny.
I bet he had no idea that one day just about everyone would carry a calculator, dictionary, thesaurus, world atlas, a full set of encyclopedias, a camera with limitless supply of film, a video camera, a flashlight, and probably some other things that are slipping my mind around with them 24/7.
If you think those smartphones in our pockets can't be severely impaired, you're not thinking creatively.
(...or is it destructively?)
StagLefty
08-22-2020, 07:34
I distinctly remember my middle school math teacher telling us that it's important to be able to do math long-handed, on paper because
I still can amaze my son when we're working on something together and he needs to figure out some mathematically and I have the answer while he reaches for his phone. I bet a lot of my fellow seniors on here can remember memorizing math tables day after day LOL
Bailey Guns
08-22-2020, 08:53
Pfft. Nobody makes calls anymore.
Do you even text, bro?
Hey'll yeah... Fattest thumz in the west.
I still can amaze my son when we're working on something together and he needs to figure out some mathematically and I have the answer while he reaches for his phone. I bet a lot of my fellow seniors on here can remember memorizing math tables day after day LOL
Yep. Flash cards. Helps develop a sense of numbers.
When I was teaching, it was interesting how many young people didn't have a 'feel' for numbers, fractions, or anything not in decimal format.
Then again, when we went from slide-rules to calculators, I imagine the previous generation thought we were losing some skills.
Can kids read an analog clock these days?
Great-Kazoo
08-22-2020, 13:27
Yep. Flash cards. Helps develop a sense of numbers.
When I was teaching, it was interesting how many young people didn't have a 'feel' for numbers, fractions, or anything not in decimal format.
Then again, when we went from slide-rules to calculators, I imagine the previous generation thought we were losing some skills.
Can kids read an analog clock these days?
FLASH CARDS! now we're really dating ourselves
FLASH CARDS! now we're really dating ourselves
SSSssshhhhhhhhhhhh!!! They'll hear you!
Delfuego
08-22-2020, 17:29
Cliffs Notes ?
Paper
https://youtu.be/h8op7eA83IU
I still can amaze my son when we're working on something together and he needs to figure out some mathematically and I have the answer while he reaches for his phone. I bet a lot of my fellow seniors on here can remember memorizing math tables day after day LOL
Yep, and I use them every day. Can't say the same for Calculus.
I remember a thread about 5 to 10 years ago about using software (dependent) to sissy fourier.
At least paper saved , but still cannot solve that. :)
https://www.ar-15.co/threads/159933-College-sure-isn-t-what-I-remember?highlight=Fourier
Btw. School now is 10x easier than 20+ years ago.
Easier prerequisite. Too much dependent on software.
(We did manual and math software as well for project and hw).[UZI]
I took audited courses for post level several years back to back my statement.
Delfuego
08-23-2020, 11:52
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Sissy Fourier? Ain't nuttin' sissy about Fourier...... between him and Laplace, they changed the world.
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