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cj
08-20-2020, 07:01
Many years ago (probably around 20), before I knew better, I bought a bag of the dreaded 9mm gun show reloads.

It was a while before they made it into my rotation, where I discovered just how poorly they had been made, the little company that made them was of course long gone, and I realized that the stories about the risks of them are all pretty much true.

For the good side, I don'd recall any not firing, and I did make it through some of it without blowing anything valuable up. Fortunately, nothing overly catastrophic happened to me...rounds keyhole at 7 yards...but then there's the occasional overcharged ones which fortunately turned up when shooting a Hi Point carbine and not something nicer (it's amazing how long it sat there and smoked afterward)...then blowing out a magazine when I didn't take the hint.

So...having finally gotten into my thick skull that these are junk, they've been sitting in my ammo supply with a label saying 'DO NOT USE - PULL OR DESTROY'. I'm fortunate enough to need the space in the ammo cabinet, so looking for the best way to dispose of this junk safely, and figured the reloading forum might be a good spot to discuss...but I'm sitting on a couple hundred of these mixed case, randomly loaded junk.

20X11
08-20-2020, 07:08
A collet type puller would be the way to go if you want to salvage anything, still tedious, but way better than an inertia puller.

bradbn4
08-20-2020, 07:32
Inertia puller can be fun, you just need the right tune...something like "hammer time"?

A few hundred is not bad and the Kinetic puller (hammer) is cheap

I have used that hammer a few times... Burn off the powder safely, and the bullets can be saved.
The primed brass can be used to shoot waxed loads or as a source for a loud cap gun.

https://www.amazon.com/Bullet-Puller-Inertia-Kinetic-Remover/dp/B078BSBS12


(https://www.amazon.com/Bullet-Puller-Inertia-Kinetic-Remover/dp/B078BSBS12)

Great-Kazoo
08-20-2020, 07:41
pull bullets, dump powder in garden or somewhere in the yard. . Resize with decaping pin removed, if cases don't gauge, or plunk in bbl. Weigh bullets to find load data. reload with powder of choice

Not_A_Llama
08-20-2020, 08:13
pull bullets, dump powder in garden or somewhere in the yard. . Resize with decaping pin removed, if cases don't gauge, or plunk in bbl. Weigh bullets to find load data. reload with powder of choice

This.

Also, I just learned - if you have an inertial puller, a shell holder works great instead of the janky three-pieces-and-an-oring setup most ship with.

.455_Hunter
08-20-2020, 08:20
We had a box of 50 year old ugly .270 reloads floating around that my uncle got from who knows where and gave to my Grandpa because "he had a .270". Fortunately, they never left the box, and no way were they going near the pre-64 Win Mod 70 that was now in my possession. I called to arrange drop-off and Boulder PD got a nice present for their monthly EOD shot.

whitewalrus
08-20-2020, 09:00
pull bullets, dump powder in garden or somewhere in the yard. . Resize with decaping pin removed, if cases don't gauge, or plunk in bbl. Weigh bullets to find load data. reload with powder of choice

This. If you don?t want to do the work, we would be happy to take off your hands. If you think they are absolutely junk, most county hazmat drop offs or police/sheriffs departments will take it for disposal.

TFOGGER
08-20-2020, 10:01
Place in legit ammo boxes, then strategically distribute them in known gang territory...


[/sarcasm]?

bradbn4
08-20-2020, 11:23
so [/sarcasm] - what happens if you try and de-prime a shell with a good primer?

In the past I always cooked it off; tho if I remember you can soak said item in motor oil (after the bullet / powder has been removed).

20X11
08-20-2020, 11:26
so [/sarcasm] - what happens if you try and de-prime a shell with a good primer?

In the past I always cooked it off; tho if I remember you can soak said item in motor oil (after the bullet / powder has been removed).

I do it all the time...just go slow and steady and wear eye protection.

whitewalrus
08-20-2020, 11:36
I do it all the time...just go slow and steady and wear eye protection.

This. It?s possible to do. I sometimes get a primer flipped the wrong way and I just slowly run it thru a decapper.

ray1970
08-20-2020, 11:39
I do it all the time...

All the time? Do you screw up a lot or do you spend a lot of time fixing other people?s screw ups?

While I don?t do it all the time, I have from time to time deprimed brass with live primers and it doesn?t bother me to do it so I will agree with you about that part. I definitely stroke the handle slowly when I do it. Just in case.

20X11
08-20-2020, 12:00
All the time? Do you screw up a lot or do you spend a lot of time fixing other people?s screw ups?

While I don?t do it all the time, I have from time to time deprimed brass with live primers and it doesn?t bother me to do it so I will agree with you about that part. I definitely stroke the handle slowly when I do it. Just in case.

I mostly fix other peoples screw ups. Occasionally my own. I have done a hundred of each type of primer i own, just to test re-usability of the "de-capped" primer. (BTW...I haven't had one fail when I re-use them)

Great-Kazoo
08-20-2020, 12:51
so [/sarcasm] - what happens if you try and de-prime a shell with a good primer?

In the past I always cooked it off; tho if I remember you can soak said item in motor oil (after the bullet / powder has been removed).


there's no need to deprime those cases. Pull the decapping pin and or assembly. .

Little Dutch
08-20-2020, 13:20
I've bought my share of remanufactured ammo in the past. For a while they were less expensive than reloading my own. Which vendor made these?

whitewalrus
08-20-2020, 13:50
I mostly fix other peoples screw ups. Occasionally my own. I have done a hundred of each type of primer i own, just to test re-usability of the "de-capped" primer. (BTW...I haven't had one fail when I re-use them)

I?ve never tried to reuse them. Good to know they can be.

O2HeN2
08-20-2020, 15:28
I've decapped many a live primer without incident.

However, just so you know what's going on if you try and reuse them (I never have).

If you look at a out-of-the-box Boxer primer, you'll see that the top legs of the anvil are above the primer cup. When you seat the primer, those legs are shoved into the primer cup by the primer pocket and the anvil compresses/stresses the priming compound, making it sensitive to a firing pin strike (this is why a misfire due to a poorly seated primer can often can be fired the second time, the first hit "arms" the primer and the second fires it).

So if you're dealing with seated, then removed "armed" primers, keep in mind that they are VERY sensitive to shock.

The last thing I'd want to happen is to have one go off in my fingers, for example.

O2

cj
08-20-2020, 18:21
I've bought my share of remanufactured ammo in the past. For a while they were less expensive than reloading my own. Which vendor made these?

This was years ago, in California at a show up at the Cow Palace...all I can recall is that the maker had an 'X' in their name and had many tables full of reloads they claimed were reloaded on 'factory equipment', so had hoped they'd be somewhat decent.

I think the cases and primers seem fine, just can't trust how much powder is in each. If anyone in the SW Denver area would want to pull and reload them, they'd be welcome to them.

Duman
08-20-2020, 20:16
Burn them. Big bonfire, toss 'em in..... Beirut Part-II