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electronman1729
09-10-2020, 08:34
Just saw this and got really excited. The book will always be better than the film, but this looks rather promising.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9xhJrPXop4

Irving
09-10-2020, 08:48
Jason Mamoa is in it, which means I'll be seeing it.

Read the book somewhat recently, but am having a hard time remembering important plot lines.

buffalobo
09-10-2020, 08:49
Looking forward to it. Frank Herbert wrote good stories for being a lefty.

Martinjmpr
09-10-2020, 09:20
Well, I know the "real" Herbert fans absolutely HATED it, but I've always been a fan of the 1984 David Lynch/Dino di Laurentiis version.

The story was a complete mess, but VISUALLY the movie was stunning. The costumes, the sets and the overall "feel" of it was just incredible for its day. Overacted and hammy? Absolutely but that's exactly what that kind of story should be.

I particularly liked the depiction of the planet Giedi Prime, home of House Harkonnen. The dark, sinister "steampunk" look of it (long before steampunk was even a thing) was just mind blowing.

I read the book AFTER I saw the movie and honestly, didn't like it all that much. It was way too complicated to keep track of all the different threads running through it.

clodhopper
09-10-2020, 11:14
Jason Mamoa is in it, which means I'll be seeing it.


Not sure how to interpret that statement...….

wctriumph
09-10-2020, 14:23
I read the book well before I saw the first movie, then read it again after. It would be impossible to tell the story in one movie, maybe in four to five movies. The movie gave me “faces” to see when I read it again. The book is best enjoyed when you can have at least a couple of hours to dedicate to it, especially when you first start. It is a science fiction classic, a great read.
I am sure the new attempt will be good and who knows, it may do Herbert honor. I am looking forward to seeing it on the big screen.

ray1970
09-10-2020, 15:42
Ugh. Watched the original movie on the front row of the theater. My neck hurts just thinking about it.

ruthabagah
09-10-2020, 15:43
I loved the book and the 1984 movie. I am also a fan of villeneuve's work. Lets hope the soundtrack is half as good as Brian Eno's one

Erni
09-10-2020, 16:11
8 posts in and no one has said it yet?!

?The spice must flow!?

Duman
09-10-2020, 19:45
Isn't spice just worm crap?

brutal
09-10-2020, 19:48
I did not hear anyone say Mighty Mouse.

brutal
09-10-2020, 19:49
Isn't spice just worm crap?

Or something else that comes out of a worm?

electronman1729
09-10-2020, 20:41
I loved the book and the 1984 movie. I am also a fan of villeneuve's work. Lets hope the soundtrack is half as good as Brian Eno's one

I just realized the back ground music was Pink Floyd Eclipse from Dark Side of the Moon.

electronman1729
09-10-2020, 20:42
I read the book well before I saw the first movie, then read it again after. It would be impossible to tell the story in one movie, maybe in four to five movies. The movie gave me ?faces? to see when I read it again. The book is best enjoyed when you can have at least a couple of hours to dedicate to it, especially when you first start. It is a science fiction classic, a great read.
I am sure the new attempt will be good and who knows, it may do Herbert honor. I am looking forward to seeing it on the big screen.

My ultimate dream is to see Ring World by Larry Niven turned into a film.

JohnnyEgo
09-10-2020, 20:54
I'm a nerd. I'll see it. Came across the books in the ship's library in the early 90s. Interesting to read while hanging out in the Persian Gulf. Watched the David Lynch movie on Laser Disk. Saw the SciFi miniseries as well. And I'd watch this version too, even if it looked like it was going to suck. About the only thing I.just couldn't get into were the follow up novels his son wrote. Lacked Daddy's talent and vision.

Aloha_Shooter
09-11-2020, 11:39
I know a lot of purists hated the David Lynch rendition but I felt it captured the spirit of the book. I am rather ticked that Villeneuve decided to gender swap a main character. I thought "Blade Runner 2049" was a bit of a mess but that's the only film of his that I've bothered watching. I think I'll watch this but may wait for it to be free on an airplane or HBO. I can't stand what Hollywood has been doing to classics.

The contemporary novels have lacked the breadth of the originals but I think Brian Herbert was providing details for a more in-depth look at the Dune universe from his father's notes while his co-author did the actual writing.

SA Friday
09-11-2020, 16:49
I know a lot of purists hated the David Lynch rendition but I felt it captured the spirit of the book. I am rather ticked that Villeneuve decided to gender swap a main character. I thought "Blade Runner 2049" was a bit of a mess but that's the only film of his that I've bothered watching. I think I'll watch this but may wait for it to be free on an airplane or HBO. I can't stand what Hollywood has been doing to classics.

The contemporary novels have lacked the breadth of the originals but I think Brian Herbert was providing details for a more in-depth look at the Dune universe from his father's notes while his co-author did the actual writing.
The 84 movie was shit within shit...
The only movie of Dune worth a shit was the Sci Fi mini series.

Martinjmpr
09-12-2020, 21:41
The 84 movie was shit within shit...
The only movie of Dune worth a shit was the Sci Fi mini series.

Disagree. I literally fell asleep trying to watch the SciFi channel series.

The David Lynch movie wasn?t great, but it sure as hell wasn?t boring.


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68Charger
09-12-2020, 22:25
Much like I, Robot...
An impossible task to make into a movie... maybe 3-6 movies, but the whole story is so complex and layered.

I read the book in jr. high before the movie.

Never saw the series. I went to the movie with very low expectations and wasn't disappointed.

It was a decent attempt at the impossible- I don't blame anybody but Hollywood in general.
Double edged sword- if you didn't read the book first, it was fragmented and possibly confusing. If you did, they missed so many layers and complexity that you felt they didn't tell the whole story.

If they tried to make it into a series of movies, it would have dragged on.

How about somebody try to make "The Mote in God's Eye" into a movie? It would bore the general public with the attention to realism. (Another Larry Niven book, IIRC)

Irving
09-13-2020, 02:02
I read the Mote books. I've heard of Ring World, but haven't read it. Is Ring World better?

O2HeN2
09-13-2020, 07:13
Is Ring World better?
If you're going to read the Ringworld books, read Niven's "Protector (https://www.amazon.com/Protector-Known-Space-Larry-Niven/dp/0345353129/)" first.

O2

Martinjmpr
09-13-2020, 09:08
I read the Mote books. I've heard of Ring World, but haven't read it. Is Ring World better?

I've often thought Ringworld would make an awesome movie but I don't know that any movie could really do it justice. And I don't know that a movie could be made that captures the book with any kind of reasonable budget.

electronman1729
09-13-2020, 10:32
I read the Mote books. I've heard of Ring World, but haven't read it. Is Ring World better?


Its all in perspective. But yes. My view is, you just need patience for he books.
One of the few that I felt that I was really immersed into story arc.

Justin
09-13-2020, 12:13
A lot of people who are typically cynical about Hollywood are being cautiously optimistic about this one.

After Hollywood managed to tank Star Wars, Star Trek, and a bunch of other beloved franchises, a new big scifi movie that doesn't suck would be a fairly welcome thing.


Regarding the David Lynch version, the 3 hour director's cut isn't a perfect movie, but it does fix a lot of the problems that were in the theatrical release.

OldFogey
09-15-2020, 07:40
Seconds to Ringworld.

Great-Kazoo
09-16-2020, 15:24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGBT6cP5kTI

ChadAmberg
09-16-2020, 19:26
A lot of people who are typically cynical about Hollywood are being cautiously optimistic about this one.

After Hollywood managed to tank Star Wars, Star Trek, and a bunch of other beloved franchises, a new big scifi movie that doesn't suck would be a fairly welcome thing.


Regarding the David Lynch version, the 3 hour director's cut isn't a perfect movie, but it does fix a lot of the problems that were in the theatrical release.


I wonder how true the recent rumor is about Disney. How the execs finally got pissed off that all the SJW crap is costing them lots of money and they're hemorrhaging fans, and are basically "reminding" them all that all that shit has to stop, that they're an entertainment company and that's what is important.

Anyone else ever catch the Jodorowsky's Dune movie documentary?

Aloha_Shooter
09-17-2020, 19:36
Ringworld was a good set of stories but I think “Mote’’ was better. Pournelle was (IMO) the half of the team that made the plot move along. Niven can be a bit slow — and this is coming from someone who not only finished “The Silmarillion” but rereads it periodically. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy his stories but the partnership with Pournelle definitely improved him.

O2HeN2
09-17-2020, 20:57
Niven can be a bit slow...

He's on coke compared to Ursula K Le Guin.

O2

Aloha_Shooter
09-20-2020, 10:32
For some reason, a prior response didn't seem to get uploaded. Good retrospective on David Lynch's Dune (as well as the Jodorowsky proposal) on Midnight's Edge:


https://youtu.be/d00vFdThPic

The SyFy channel's rendition was more accurate to the word of the books but missed the spirit IMO. I was looking forward to it and ended up very disappointed. Yes, Lynch converted the Weirding Way to Weirding Modules (the ME video actually explains why) but IMO it captured the spirit of the book much better, despite the butchering job the producers did to meet distributor demands.

I didn't like "Blade Runner 2049" so can't say I'm a fan of Villeneuve's work. I'll give him a chance but may wait for it to appear on HBO instead of going to theaters if it appears he engaged in more wokeness (like changing genders just because he can).