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Bailey Guns
09-10-2020, 15:17
KC-46 flew over today and I noticed it had this weird halo around it. Didn't have the camera with me. 20 mins later another (or the same one) came over again. Same weird halo but this time I got a picture. A C-17 had come over as well but I didn't notice this halo effect. The C-17 was lower, though. The KC-46 was just skirting in and out of the lower edge of the overcast. Is there some physical explanation for this? Static electricity or something? Reflections from the clouds? I don't think I've ever noticed this before.

ETA: The C-17 was also not directly overhead, either. It was maybe 1/4 mile off to the right in relation to the right wing of the KC-46. Maybe it was just because it was directly overhead.


https://i.imgur.com/BA8FMXP.jpg

Gman
09-10-2020, 15:20
St. Elmo's Fire?

ETA: Nah, that looks different.

Are the aircraft flying through smoke or ash, or is it just overcast?

Bailey Guns
09-10-2020, 15:26
After a search it's probably just because the plane was directly below where the sun was at the time. That's maybe why it's got the bright outline. I found something called a "glory" but that's more like a rainbow-colored, round halo. I've never seen St Elmo's Fire but I always thought that had more of a lightning bolt look.

Gman
09-10-2020, 15:34
Yeah, St. Elmo's Fire has fingers like lightning.

00tec
09-10-2020, 15:35
After a search it's probably just because the plane was directly below where the sun was at the time. That's maybe why it's got the bright outline. I found something called a "glory" but that's more like a rainbow-colored, round halo. I've never seen St Elmo's Fire but I always thought that had more of a lightning bolt look.

You found a "glory" in BFE Oklahoma? Interesting

ray1970
09-10-2020, 15:36
Could be something to do with this blood red sunrise I caught the other day.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200910/7ff7e9dbb4db8018b01817b0002b2ffe.jpg

BushMasterBoy
09-10-2020, 15:38
The moisture in the air being compressed creates an optical effect called "refraction". Water droplets in air are usually spherical. These airborne spheres act as a magnifying glass concentrating the light from above.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refraction

Moisture is really noticeable in this F-18 flyby...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQydRIxoAU0

Bailey Guns
09-10-2020, 15:56
You found a "glory" in BFE Oklahoma? Interesting

We might be talking about two different things.

BushMasterBoy
09-10-2020, 16:23
Another extreme example of moisture being compressed out of the atmosphere by F-15's of the 48th TFW in Wales, at a place they call "Mach Loop".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zhAekECH78

Gman
09-10-2020, 20:52
Love the Mach Loop videos. Also love these here in the US (although there isn't as much water vapor around the Mojave):

http://youtu.be/a-HsDA_cPqY
https://youtu.be/a-HsDA_cPqY

BushMasterBoy
09-10-2020, 21:53
Cool link below, lets you track most aircraft including military flights.

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/

BPTactical
09-11-2020, 11:10
KC-46 flew over today and I noticed it had this weird halo around it. Didn't have the camera with me. 20 mins later another (or the same one) came over again. Same weird halo but this time I got a picture. A C-17 had come over as well but I didn't notice this halo effect. The C-17 was lower, though. The KC-46 was just skirting in and out of the lower edge of the overcast. Is there some physical explanation for this? Static electricity or something? Reflections from the clouds? I don't think I've ever noticed this before.

ETA: The C-17 was also not directly overhead, either. It was maybe 1/4 mile off to the right in relation to the right wing of the KC-46. Maybe it was just because it was directly overhead.


https://i.imgur.com/BA8FMXP.jpg

Light refracted off of smoke particles in the atmosphere.

ChickNorris
09-11-2020, 13:06
Nice pic.

FoxtArt
09-11-2020, 14:02
Clearly it's just an undiscovered bug. By the time you saw the third plane fly over they had that rendering issue fixed - thanks for reporting an error in your simulation! [flamingo]

CapLock
09-16-2020, 06:14
A pilot crashed in Star Wars canyon. I think they stopped flying there.
In that part of the desert I was on top of a Mountian I climbed as a teen and had a jet fly over me that kind of close. Scared the shit out of me didn't see or hear it coming.

battlemidget
09-16-2020, 06:51
Awesome pic!

BushMasterBoy
09-16-2020, 20:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zbFldEt844

O2HeN2
09-17-2020, 07:26
I think you're seeing some version of being on the "receiving end" of a glory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glory_(optical_phenomenon)).

Yhea, the sun isn't directly behind the plane, but the diffused lighting caused by the overcast is still being refracted around the plane, and it focused the light to a degree that it was brighter than the background overcast.

The diffuse light source would also "smear" the colors you'd normally get from a glory and when combined, it'd be white (or the plane's speed smeared them over a very brief period of time, which is also possible).

O2

BREATHER
09-18-2020, 04:52
Russian and Chinese laser weapons