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tactical_2012
09-18-2020, 17:47
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-dead/index.html
scratchy
09-18-2020, 17:48
Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the liberal icon who served on the Supreme Court since 1993 and who crusaded for women?s rights before that, died on Friday at the age of 87.
Ginsburg died from complications of cancer, according to the Supreme Court. She died Friday evening surrounded by her family at her home in Washington.
The justice dictated a statement to her granddaughter in the days before her death, NPR reported. Ginsburg said: ?My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced (https://www.npr.org/2020/09/18/100306972/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-champion-of-gender-equality-dies-at-87) until a new president is installed.?
Full story at link:
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/ruth-bader-ginsburg-dead-233557006.html
(edited only to remove the duplicate post note, good info -- foxtart)
wctriumph
09-18-2020, 17:49
Justice Ginsburg is dead.
Finally, God forgive me.
Justice Ginsburg is dead.
Finally, God forgive me.
With aboot a month and a half to spare....
bellavite1
09-18-2020, 17:55
[Beer[Beer][Beer]
Fentonite
09-18-2020, 17:57
Just walked in and it?s on the news. The timing is potentially fortunate.
Dems will do everything possible to stall the replacement till after the election.
My condolences to her family and friends.
That?s all I?ve got.
Well, since I popped in to the other thread to offer my condolences to her friends and family I guess I?ll do it here too.
Condolences.
Regardless of who started the first one, I hope all of the threads get merged.
Delfuego
09-18-2020, 18:16
We don't dance on people graves. I hope people remember this.
Delfuego
09-18-2020, 18:17
Dems will do everything possible to stall the replacement till after the election.As is the tradition
Delfuego
09-18-2020, 18:29
Well this one deserves it one of the most evil woman in historyDid she run over your dog?
Have some class and don't speak ill of the dead.
Merged. Okay, let me be the first to say in advance...
KEEP IT CLASSY people.
While normally I'd be pleased at the prospects for SCOTUS any time prior to six months ago, I've recently been warning people this is the biggest "trigger" issue that I'd predict could lead to outright civil war, and it has happened. Is if we thought the weeks leading to elections were bad enough, people are going to be going absolutely psychotic over this now.
I'm not joking when I compare her to the assassination of Franz Ferdinand. We were already on shaky ground before, shit is going to get real, and we may not get to see the benefits of these developments like we'd have ordinarily expected.
Great-Kazoo
09-18-2020, 18:33
Dems will do everything possible to stall the replacement till after the election.
Nothing will happen , especially after the garland debacle , the R's held up.
I'm not joking when I compare her to the assassination of Franz Ferdinand.
Woah. She didn?t have dirt on the Clintons, did she?
Great-Kazoo
09-18-2020, 18:35
Merged. Okay, let me be the first to say in advance...
KEEP IT CLASSY people.
While normally I'd be pleased at the prospects for SCOTUS any time prior to six months ago, I've recently been warning people this is the biggest "trigger" issue that I'd predict could lead to outright civil war, and it has happened. Is if we thought the weeks leading to elections were bad enough, people are going to be going absolutely psychotic over this now.
I'm not joking when I compare her to the assassination of Franz Ferdinand. We were already on shaky ground before, shit is going to get real, and we may not get to see the benefits of these developments like we'd have ordinarily expected.
Considering we don't always agree;) What you posted is on the money.
While I vehemently disagreed with her opinions and most of her positions, I did respect her as an adversary and she did stick to her "guns", pun intended. It is strange to respect people who have been a thorn in my side, but what would life be without thorns.
Peaceful, and with martinis and awesome food, I think. But maybe not as deep.
Everyone working in gov/police/security/etc. - you better have exceptionally heightened awareness from now through Nov.
Don't bring your home to work, so to speak, and stay off your phone as much as you can.
Bailey Guns
09-18-2020, 19:16
She had a pretty remarkable life.
Fuck the democrats. They're not in charge of the senate and they're gonna have a hissy fit regardless of what happens. Nothing will change them.
Honest question
as a younger member only being able to vote in 3 elections so far and not really following politics until 2018 or so
What stemmed the almost universal dislike for her rulings/dissents
i am reading through the cases That easily come up via search.
Everyone working in gov/police/security/etc. - you better have exceptionally heightened awareness from now through Nov.
Don't bring your home to work, so to speak, and stay off your phone as much as you can.
What do you mean?
TresMonos
09-18-2020, 19:25
Merged. Okay, let me be the first to say in advance...
KEEP IT CLASSY people.
While normally I'd be pleased at the prospects for SCOTUS any time prior to six months ago, I've recently been warning people this is the biggest "trigger" issue that I'd predict could lead to outright civil war, and it has happened. Is if we thought the weeks leading to elections were bad enough, people are going to be going absolutely psychotic over this now.
I'm not joking when I compare her to the assassination of Franz Ferdinand. We were already on shaky ground before, shit is going to get real, and we may not get to see the benefits of these developments like we'd have ordinarily expected.
So.....no ruthless commentary then?
BushMasterBoy
09-18-2020, 19:25
My title says it all. And that is my civilized version. If we can't post the truth on the forum, then what is the point of posting at all?
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/takeaway/segments/second-amendment-outdated-justice-ginsburg-says
Quote:
Second Amendment 'Outdated'
In the wake of the Colorado recall election and a fierce, nationwide debate over gun rights and gun control, Justice Ginsburg also comments on the past, present and future of the Second Amendment. She cites her dissent in District of Columbia v. Heller, and says her "view of the Second Amendment is one based on history."
She continues, "The Second Amendment has a preamble about the need for a militia...Historically, the new government had no money to pay for an army, so they relied on the state militias. And the states required men to have certain weapons and they specified in the law what weapons these people had to keep in their home so that when they were called to do service as militiamen, they would have them. That was the entire purpose of the Second Amendment."
Different belief but she served our country.
Sad day today.
So.....no ruthless commentary then?
[ROFL1] I'd say I was a Bader man than to laugh, but...
What do you mean?
The far left and fringe are now going to exaggerate the stakes of this election beyond what we could have previously imagined. I would not be surprised to see especially heightened levels of violence attempted in the next few weeks - both targeted (e.g. potentially POTUS) and untargeted (e.g. OKC) but police and government are the top of the pile for "ire", and then all of your BLM types will think they're now practically missionaries for "RBG" and doing things in "her honor", so we might see more random attempts on officer's lives like we've already witnessed.
RblDiver
09-18-2020, 19:42
Not happy about it, but definitely not sad. I do think this helps the Dems, reminding them what's at stake. 0% chance it gets filled before election, maaaaaaybe if it turns lame duck but highly doubtful.
I do think it'd be wise for Trump to narrow his previous list to his top 5 choices and force Biden to do the same.
Bailey Guns
09-18-2020, 19:50
McConnell has already said "unequivocally" that any Trump nominee will get a vote in the senate. The republicans getting Kavanaugh confirmed was pretty remarkable...considering...well, they're republicans. And that was largely due to McConnell. So I at least have some hope McConnell can pull it off again.
hollohas
09-18-2020, 19:57
The far left and fringe are now going to exaggerate the stakes of this election beyond what we could have previously imagined. I would not be surprised to see especially heightened levels of violence attempted in the next few weeks - both targeted (e.g. potentially POTUS) and untargeted (e.g. OKC) but police and government are the top of the pile for "ire", and then all of your BLM types will think they're now practically missionaries for "RBG" and doing things in "her honor", so we might see more random attempts on officer's lives like we've already witnessed.You are absolutely right. Anyone with a brain can see Joe really doesn't stand a chance without fraud and cheating. Conservatives know that, the left knows that. 4 car parades and 6 person rallies do not make a winning candidate.
So they are going to be absolutely, insanely desperate now. They may think they have a small chance to hold off a nomination until after the election, but they can't hold it off if Trump wins. Which is looking very likely. And that puts the President at risk. I hope the USSS is on their game.
While I strongly oppose many of her decisions as a member of the Supreme Court, she was dedicated and steadfast (and a Liberal hack), but I wish her to RIP, her life story is worth reading. Quite the lady.
That said, this really churns up the waters on the election status. The Dems couldn't have asked for more!
Why can’t the republicans admit that they were wrong and the democrats were right on the garland nomination and push one through now? I think it would be worth it to lose the next election over another sc nomination
Zundfolge
09-18-2020, 20:41
Why can’t the republicans admit that they were wrong and the democrats were right on the garland nomination and push one through now? I think it would be worth it to lose the next election over another sc nomination
Thing is they may have to because its pretty clear that the chaos that's coming is going to cause the SCOTUS to pick our next president ... and that gets more complicated if its 4-4.
BPTactical
09-18-2020, 21:10
Ginsberg actually died a while back.
She just fell over tonight.
RIP, although I didn’t necessarily agree with her she was a helluva Grand Dame’. Impressive career.
Did she run over your dog?
Have some class and don't speak ill of the dead.
So we can speak ill of the living in hopes they change, but can’t be happy they are gone for what they did?
How does that apply to someone, say Hitler?
And before you go and say he committed genocide, I’d be interested to see how many abortions were done over the years she was a SCOTUS judge.
BushMasterBoy
09-18-2020, 21:35
"My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed."
So the government should hold off until January? I hope they swear in a new justice next week.
Bailey Guns
09-18-2020, 21:35
Why can’t the republicans admit that they were wrong and the democrats were right on the garland nomination and push one through now? I think it would be worth it to lose the next election over another sc nomination
One of the benefits of holding the majority in the senate is you get to make the rules and you get to confirm judges. The democrats don't have any problem using whatever power they have so I don't think it should bother the republicans. It's business. And it's important business. They don't need to admit anything. They just need to get a judge confirmed. Democrats can whine and piss and moan all they want. Fuck 'em.
Bailey Guns
09-18-2020, 21:37
So we can speak ill of the living in hopes they change, but can’t be happy they are gone for what they did?
How does that apply to someone, say Hitler?
And before you go and say he committed genocide, I’d be interested to see how many abortions were done over the years she was a SCOTUS judge.
No kidding. And, she was 87. It's not like she hadn't already seriously beaten the odds.
BPTactical
09-18-2020, 22:06
With the way they played the sickening games with Kavenaugh I would love to see the GOP break it off in their ass.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Coney_Barrett?wprov=sfla1
So what kind of lies do you think they are working right now to ruin her credibility?
ACB has to be the odds on favorite at this point. Seems to be conservative through and through. Politically her choice is a no brainer. Even if Rs lose Romney, Collins, and Murkowski, Pence can be the deciding vote.
Hopefully Trump has the nomination ready on Monday to get the ball rolling so she is in place by Nov 3 to resolve any election arguments.
Loved her in Best in Show.
McConnell is already saying that a Trump nomination will get a vote.
I wouldn't mind seeing Trey Gowdy nominated.
Both would be great picks. I just hope everything sticks together long enough to enjoy a normal future. A 6/3 would be an interesting supreme court. Liberal courts all over the country would suddenly start pretending to be conservative just to avoid anything reaching SCOTUS :P
ETA: The thought of these progressive federal judges dry heaving and moaning while writing marginally pro-2A opinions is amusing as hell to me.
To me anypne that isn't a current judge is a non starter. You have to get this person confirmed. ACB checks all the boxes and most importantly, provides the heaviest political punch when the Ds try to attack the nomination.
tactical_2012
09-19-2020, 00:01
So we can speak ill of the living in hopes they change, but can?t be happy they are gone for what they did?
How does that apply to someone, say Hitler?
And before you go and say he committed genocide, I?d be interested to see how many abortions were done over the years she was a SCOTUS judge.
Thanks for the reply
PSA:
There is a unique opportunity I'm noticing that you can seize upon. I'm noticing libs talking about immediately going out to buy a firearm now. While counterintuitive to arm the opposition, I would encourage it and call their bluff - tell them supply is getting drier than a 80 year old grandma and if they don't commit this week they likely will have to wait 12 months, and offer to help train them and show them how to be safe.
You convert someone to your perspective with a thousand cuts... or a case of ammo, as it may be.
Bailey Guns
09-19-2020, 05:22
ACB checks all the boxes and most importantly, provides the heaviest political punch when the Ds try to attack the nomination.
I wonder how many people she sexually assaulted at a high school party, that no one remembers, 35 years ago? How many puppies has she kicked? How many slaves she secretly owned?
I guess we'll find out if she gets nominated.
Politically, Trump has to choose a women. It’s almost sacrilegious not to at this point.
As far as garland being held off for a year? Yep. Elections have consequences. GOP controlled the senate and the GOP controls the senate now
Fuck em. The democrats would do the same thing if given the opportunity.
What would the Democrats do in this situation? If you even question that they would Jam a liberal justice through as fast as possible you don’t know them.
They tied up Trump with numerous things from taxes, to Russia, to impeachment, to handling on chinavirus just to try and get him on his heels and slow him down.
In 2016 the biggest reason I wanted Trump to win was for this exact reason: SCOTUS picks.
Now he can get a third conservative judge in before this term is up. These appointments are for life. If it costs him the election so be it, and if he wins there is a possibility we could see another pick in the next 4 years but SCOTUS will be in a favorable position for conservatives either way and that is the most important thing imo.
hollohas
09-19-2020, 08:13
PSA:
There is a unique opportunity I'm noticing that you can seize upon. I'm noticing libs talking about immediately going out to buy a firearm now. While counterintuitive to arm the opposition, I would encourage it and call their bluff - tell them supply is getting drier than a 80 year old grandma and if they don't commit this week they likely will have to wait 12 months, and offer to help train them and show them how to be safe.
You convert someone to your perspective with a thousand cuts... or a case of ammo, as it may be.
No thanks. I have no interest in convincing people who hate me in their very core, many who actually wish conservatives would die off, to arm themselves. And I'm especially not going to teach them how to more effectively use their new tools to kill me.
On-the-fence moderates or traditional democrats absolutely. The more the merrier.
But actual dyed in the wool liberals? No f'in way.
No thanks. I have no interest in convincing people who hate me in their very core, many who actually wish conservatives would die off, to arm themselves. And I'm especially not going to teach them how to more effectively use their new tools to kill me.
On-the-fence moderates or traditional democrats absolutely. The more the merrier.
But actual dyed in the wool liberals? No f'in way.
+1
That would be like giving the Iranians F14s, or arming the Afghans only we are talking about nuttier people right next door.
Great-Kazoo
09-19-2020, 08:52
I wonder how many people she sexually assaulted at a high school party, that no one remembers, 35 years ago? How many puppies has she kicked? How many slaves she secretly owned?
I guess we'll find out if she gets nominated.
Easy one. She had inappropriate relations with minors while substitute teaching. A few shady emails will surface of a tryst she was rumored to have with another female co-worker.
Look, if they can produce a woman who said they were at college parties (way after they graduated) observing kavanaugh drugging women to pull trains, behind closed doors.
There's nothing they will not do to discredit, nay ruin, someone they disagree with politically
The Dems could make up whatever they want, no matter if there's any truth to it at all. They do it continuously and their MSM propaganda department will be complicit in pushing the narrative.
OneGuy67
09-19-2020, 09:10
Get a younger conservative female confirmed to the Supreme Court now. If Trump loses the election, at least they would have secured the Supreme Court for the next 2 decades.
I nominate Candice Owens!
O2
theGinsue
09-19-2020, 09:39
While I respected her adherence to her values, I disliked RBG severely. I won't trample or tap dance on her grave, but I won't pretend she did this nation any favors during her SCOTUS tenure.
Trump needs to get a strong conservative nominated right away and that person needs to be confirmed with all due haste. This is a rare chance for conservatives to use the same tactics the libs/socialists have been using against us for decades so that we can rack up a win that could have an impact for decades.
Whoever is even a possibility of being on the "short list" for nomination needs to have some serious security provided to them and their families RIGHT NOW and until the next Justice gets confirmed. Have no doubt that the extremists on the left are already considering how to eliminate those they don't want taking that seat.
BlasterBob
09-19-2020, 10:13
Just the mention of Trey Gowdy as a possible candidate would certainly stir up the Democrats . [blaster]
hollohas
09-19-2020, 10:17
I have no doubt Trump and his team already know exactly who they will nominate. Everyone was expecting this as a possibility. Just a week or two ago Trump announced a possible list of candidates. I'm sure all possible choices have been thoroughly vetted already.
I bet they announce by Monday/Tuesday. No time to spare.
Bailey Guns
09-19-2020, 10:36
The announcement will most likely wait until RBG services are concluded. And that's appropriate...even if it takes a week or so.
I would've rather seen her retire. If she'd retired I wouldn't care if she was immortal. I just didn't like her on the court.
Regardless of your thoughts on RBG, her story of humble beginnings to the supreme court is a story that could only happen in America.
She was an intellect who worked and fought hard on some good fights for good causes. She also had flawed views regarding the legislative intent of the founding fathers and the constitution (IMHO).
The fact that RBG and Scalia were best friends is an example of professionalism and respect on both their parts. An example that, no matter how far apart you are, you can respectfully disagree and live in peace.
I had a strong feeling after state of union that she will show up to work on a stretcher if necessary.
She was hanging on until the very end.
Again , different view/belief but something to learn from justice Ginsburg.
So sad that RBG missed out on talk like a pirate day this and every coming year.
hollohas
09-19-2020, 14:08
And that puts the President at risk. I hope the USSS is on their game.
Well, didn't think it would start this fast.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/705a0b204904daf0b168010621b27e13.jpg
Bailey Guns
09-19-2020, 15:37
Fuckin' liberals...
Well, didn't think it would start this fast.
Article I read said it was intercepted earlier this week..and that it was sent from Canada.
BushMasterBoy
09-19-2020, 20:18
The Democrats don't want "continuity of government", they want to thrive on the chaos. That is their modus operandi ever since Carter.
hollohas
09-19-2020, 20:52
Article I read said it was intercepted earlier this week..and that it was sent from Canada.I was joking.
I never understood the mailing toxic substance idea. Must just be to scare, because it literally has zero chance of reaching the president.
I was joking.
I never understood the mailing toxic substance idea. Must just be to scare, because it literally has zero chance of reaching the president.The type of person who would commit this act is not the type of person who would understand/realize that.
Sent from somewhere...
Aloha_Shooter
09-20-2020, 09:09
Honest question
as a younger member only being able to vote in 3 elections so far and not really following politics until 2018 or so
What stemmed the almost universal dislike for her rulings/dissents
i am reading through the cases That easily come up via search.
My title says it all. And that is my civilized version. If we can't post the truth on the forum, then what is the point of posting at all?
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/takeaway/segments/second-amendment-outdated-justice-ginsburg-says
Quote:
Second Amendment 'Outdated'
In the wake of the Colorado recall election and a fierce, nationwide debate over gun rights and gun control, Justice Ginsburg also comments on the past, present and future of the Second Amendment. She cites her dissent in District of Columbia v. Heller, and says her "view of the Second Amendment is one based on history."
She continues, "The Second Amendment has a preamble about the need for a militia...Historically, the new government had no money to pay for an army, so they relied on the state militias. And the states required men to have certain weapons and they specified in the law what weapons these people had to keep in their home so that when they were called to do service as militiamen, they would have them. That was the entire purpose of the Second Amendment."
While I strongly oppose many of her decisions as a member of the Supreme Court, she was dedicated and steadfast (and a Liberal hack), but I wish her to RIP, her life story is worth reading. Quite the lady.
That said, this really churns up the waters on the election status. The Dems couldn't have asked for more!
I don't know about "almost universal dislike" but yes, a lot of people disliked her opinions and dissents because she seemed to be making things up in order to rule the way she wanted. She gave no credence to the actual language or documented intent of those passing the Constitution or applicable amendments and even reached to foreign courts to find precedent or support for her decision. Her complete mischaracterization of the history behind the Second Amendment as cited by @BushMasterBoy is a classic example.
Regardless of your thoughts on RBG, her story of humble beginnings to the supreme court is a story that could only happen in America.
She was an intellect who worked and fought hard on some good fights for good causes. She also had flawed views regarding the legislative intent of the founding fathers and the constitution (IMHO).
The fact that RBG and Scalia were best friends is an example of professionalism and respect on both their parts. An example that, no matter how far apart you are, you can respectfully disagree and live in peace.
Exactly. The fact that Scalia was such good friends with her and respected what he perceived as her love of the Constitution is what moderates my opinion of her. I don't find evidence of her love for the actual Constitution in the rulings I've seen but he knew her a helluva lot better than almost anyone in the country and I respected the hell out of HIS opinion.
You are absolutely right. Anyone with a brain can see Joe really doesn't stand a chance without fraud and cheating. Conservatives know that, the left knows that. 4 car parades and 6 person rallies do not make a winning candidate.
So they are going to be absolutely, insanely desperate now. They may think they have a small chance to hold off a nomination until after the election, but they can't hold it off if Trump wins. Which is looking very likely. And that puts the President at risk. I hope the USSS is on their game.
One of the benefits of holding the majority in the senate is you get to make the rules and you get to confirm judges. The democrats don't have any problem using whatever power they have so I don't think it should bother the republicans. It's business. And it's important business. They don't need to admit anything. They just need to get a judge confirmed. Democrats can whine and piss and moan all they want. Fuck 'em.
The announcement will most likely wait until RBG services are concluded. And that's appropriate...even if it takes a week or so.
I would've rather seen her retire. If she'd retired I wouldn't care if she was immortal. I just didn't like her on the court.
What the Leftist MSM is ignoring was that McConnell told Obama straight off not to bother with nominating a replacement for Scalia. He upheld the "Advise and Consent" part of the Senate's responsibilities instead of lamely rolling over like Bob Dole and other Senate Majority Leaders did in the past (particularly in confirming RBG in 45 days despite the s--- shows the Dems put on with Bork, Thomas, etc.). Wish he'd put up a stronger battle against Sotomayor and Kagan as they were/are much more of a threat to the actual written document as a basis for Constitutional law.
In this case, the President intends to nominate someone using the Advise of the Senate and they will decide on whether they Consent -- far different from the way Obama tried to swing the court with Garland. I think it would be more consistent if they let Trump nominate but withheld action until after the inauguration and swearing-in of a new Senate however I don't blame them for taking the course they've announced. The Left has already announced their intent to pack the Court FDR-style at their next opportunity. They purposely empowered the Court far beyond the Founders' intent as a way to get around Constitutional restrictions on Executive power and their inability to to win Legislatively so they will fight tooth and nail to keep using it.
Easy one. She had inappropriate relations with minors while substitute teaching. A few shady emails will surface of a tryst she was rumored to have with another female co-worker.
Look, if they can produce a woman who said they were at college parties (way after they graduated) observing kavanaugh drugging women to pull trains, behind closed doors.
There's nothing they will not do to discredit, nay ruin, someone they disagree with politically
It started with what the Dems did to tear down Robert Bork and continued with their battle against Clarence Thomas. They still try to lionize Anita Hill and pay her back for doing anything to block a dedicated Constitutionalist. The Dems have shown for decades that they don't care about the truth or the damage to personal lives. Nothing more ironic than the Clintons complaining about "the politics of personal destruction" when they've been the preeminent purveyors of personal destruction.
PSA:
There is a unique opportunity I'm noticing that you can seize upon. I'm noticing libs talking about immediately going out to buy a firearm now. While counterintuitive to arm the opposition, I would encourage it and call their bluff - tell them supply is getting drier than a 80 year old grandma and if they don't commit this week they likely will have to wait 12 months, and offer to help train them and show them how to be safe.
You convert someone to your perspective with a thousand cuts... or a case of ammo, as it may be.
I agree with educating Lefties on what the 2A really means and that firearms aren't independently minded evil instruments like Sauron's Ring of Power or some Harry Potter horcrux. OTOH, the lesson I take from the Portland riots is that it won't matter -- dedicated Lefties will remain dedicated Lefties and educating them on firearms and 2A just makes them more violent and dangerous Lefties.
The biggest danger are the Lefties inside the legal infrastructure like the DAs that refused to press charges on violent rioters while pressing charges on people who simply defended themselves or their homes -- or in the case of Lucas Gerhard, just shared a joke with friends. These people are showing their colors this year and we need to show the "moderates" how immoderate and ridiculous the embedded Leftists are, get them voted out.
BushMasterBoy
09-20-2020, 11:39
And she came to the bench a few months after Bill Clinton and Janet Reno burnt down the Branch Davidian compound with women and children inside...
Flashback: In 2016, Ginsburg said Senate should hold SCOTUS confirmation hearing during election year (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flashback-in-2016-ginsburg-senate-election-year-vacancy)
"There's nothing in the Constitution that says the president stops being the president in his last year," Ginsburg said in a 2016 New York Times interview in which she called for Garland to receive a confirmation vote in the Senate.
As for whether the Senate should take up a vote on Garland, Ginsburg said at the time, "That's their job."
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3f32qSBUeZc8ggKge5lkPjteQ5AUjA3LvEFEYxqAuhFpG9-4nuBkxwucOaUevapYZJym3KfVLpSXW3Ls2Sm5Ug-M4bQw2h9MaALDGYmc-eGEIH20O7ns6GqQO5WN2qMBLwUWsi4Sl9FcACh430nuY0lBg=w 610-h625-no?authuser=0
Newsweek: America Can't Afford to Wait for a New Supreme Court Justice (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/america-can-t-afford-to-wait-for-a-new-supreme-court-justice-opinion/ar-BB19g3Iz)
Snip
We are not without precedent of course. Eight Justices were nominated and confirmed to fill vacancies that arose during presidential election years. President Herbert Hoover nominated Benjamin Cardozo to replace the venerable Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes while running for reelection. When President Franklin Delano Roosevelt succeeded Hoover, the U.S. Senate confirmed Justice Cardozo in March of 1932.
While running for reelection, President Dwight D. Eisenhower appointed—via the seldom-used recess appointment—Justice William J. Brennan, Jr. to the Court on October 15, 1956. The Senate quickly confirmed the appointment when it returned to session in 1957, at the beginning of Eisenhower's second term. Brennan, like Justices Cardozo and Ginsburg, was a lion of liberal jurisprudence and served through the Rehnquist Court until 1990.
In other words, we have been here before. And history shows we can move quickly. The Senate confirmed Justice Ginsburg in 42 days, Justice Sandra Day O'Connor in 33 days, and Justice John Paul Stevens in just 19 days. Perhaps the next Justice's nomination and confirmation will not be as swift as Justice Salmon Chase's—occurring on the same day in 1864 after Abraham Lincoln's reelection—but there is no reason to wait.
If the dems win the WH and both houses in Congress, which looks possible by polls, they can pass legislation to expand SCOTUS from 9 to say 13 justices. This would give them a 7-6 advantage, and with Roberts being more middle lately, they'd control it for the next half century.
Bailey Guns
09-21-2020, 10:05
If the dems win the WH and both houses in Congress, which looks possible by polls, they can pass legislation to expand SCOTUS from 9 to say 13 justices. This would give them a 7-6 advantage, and with Roberts being more middle lately, they'd control it for the next half century.
If any of that scenario happens none of us are going to want to remain in this country.
If any of that scenario happens none of us are going to want to remain in this country.
I think that's when some will take action to prevent it.
Aloha_Shooter
09-21-2020, 10:58
I hope Trump is more careful than Eisenhower or Nixon/Ford. Brennan and Stevens were disasters. I've been unpleasantly surprised by Roberts' votes in recent years.
Bailey Guns
09-21-2020, 12:43
https://i.imgur.com/veA82aS.jpg
Romney backs vote on Supreme Court nominee, clearing way for Trump
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/22/romney-supports-holding-a-vote-on-next-supreme-court-nominee-419898
theGinsue
09-22-2020, 18:33
Romney simply said he's vote, but he never said HOW he'd vote (to include "present").
GilpinGuy
09-22-2020, 19:55
Didn't Obama refuse to go to Scalia's funeral? I could be wrong, but very classy if he did refuse. I wonder if Trump will go to Ginsberg's.
Edit: Or is she in the ground already? No idea.
Bailey Guns
09-22-2020, 20:23
She's supposed to lie in state this week, I think. I can't be sure but I thought there was a reason (besides he's a dick) Obama didn't go to Scalia's funeral. Can't remember what it was. Too lazy to use the Google.
buffalobo
09-22-2020, 20:30
I believe I heard she is to lie in state at the capital Friday.
Aloha_Shooter
09-22-2020, 23:49
I can't be sure but I thought there was a reason (besides he's a dick) Obama didn't go to Scalia's funeral.
I think he felt he needed to work on his slice ...
http://anodtothegods.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/EiRxRBmWAAAI_lB-768x712.jpg
I remember this...
Biden has more hair now than 1991. wow.
https://youtu.be/1lEEDD2vxaE
Zundfolge
09-24-2020, 09:45
Biden has more hair now than 1991. wow.
There's a reason why Rush Limbaugh has long referred to Joe Biden as "Plugs" Biden.
I pissed some off today saying that ginsburgs seat is not vacant. But a seat on the ussc is empty, and that no one owns the seats, they just occupy them...
Oh the scorn...
I pissed some off today saying that ginsburgs seat is not vacant. But a seat on the ussc is empty, and that no one owns the seats, they just occupy them...
Oh the scorn...
LOL
Some people are effing stupid, they make morons look like Rhodes scholars.
And ACB is confirmed
https://i.ibb.co/qk1pxrt/Screenshot-20201026-182554-Chrome.jpg
Bailey Guns
10-26-2020, 18:52
Solid win for America right there.
I am increasingly impressed with her.
Wewt. Hopefully we can hold onto it for a few years.
Do you want to know who is probably the most miffed? John Roberts. He probably got off on "the" deciding vote for so many cases, SCOTUS was practically a single member. Now, he is irrelevant.
Rucker61
10-26-2020, 21:16
Wewt. Hopefully we can hold onto it for a few years.
Do you want to know who is probably the most miffed? John Roberts. He probably got off on "the" deciding vote for so many cases, SCOTUS was practically a single member. Now, he is irrelevant.
Hello, Peruta. Hello, Kolbe v Hogan.
She was also sworn in tonight by Clarence Thomas.
WINNING!
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https://i.imgur.com/IddAMVO.png
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https://i.imgur.com/0PouRHM.png
If you're going to call someone an idiot, at least make sure you know how to use an apostrophe properly first.
BladesNBarrels
10-27-2020, 08:53
The apostrophe shows the possessive.
Maybe Democrats possess the idiots?
Just Sayin'
(Oops, a different use of the apostrophe)
[Coffee][Coffee]
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Delfuego
10-27-2020, 14:16
The apostrophe shows the possessive.
Maybe Democrats possess the idiots?
Russians no type english good
If you're going to call someone an idiot, at least make sure you know how to use an apostrophe properly first.
Nobody ever said Meme Lords were smart.
I am increasingly impressed with her.
She's really cute, too.
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