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GilpinGuy
09-29-2020, 21:05
I can't believe there's no thread yet, unless I'm a moron and missed it.
What an embarrassing spectacle. The entire world must be thinking "Wow, what a bunch of assholes".
No doubt but this is the state of journalism in America today. But I think this was a far fairer debate than what we saw in 2016.
I actually could not hear both unless Mod gave both strong warnings.
Both had to get undecided voters to listen to them, but rather massive interruptions.
Both got D to D- performance.
Mod got D-
This shit was not republican or democratic rally. It was for undecided (which is small % watching) to help decide.
This "Debate" SUCKED! It devolved into a 3th grade food fight with a 5th grader trying to tell them to stop and be good. Watching this was 90 minutes of my life that I can never get back. Going to pray that this was the last one, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE.
I wonder what the polling results would be if the options were "Trump" "Biden" and "Completely start over with new primaries"
newracer
09-29-2020, 23:40
Embarrassing
Great-Kazoo
09-29-2020, 23:49
I actually could not hear both unless Mod gave both strong warnings.
Both had to get undecided voters to listen to them, but rather massive interruptions.
Both got D to D- performance.
Mod got D-
This shit was not republican or democratic rally. It was for undecided (which is small % watching) to help decide.
Undecided?/ Anyone who believes there's actually an undecided voter out there. is smoking crack. Nothing personal, just the truth. The only undecided voters are the ones who haven't crossed the border, yet.
Legally, or not.
Embarrassing
You're being too kind. The 5 min i tried watching was a fukin embarrassment.
Trump should have shut the fuk up. let biden bury himself. Then when it was his turn throw a curve ball at biden.
Like ask him.
How can you say i'm a racist when you've been a senator from Delaware for 40 years. Yet NEVER ONCE condemned the civil war statues erected / commissioned/ praised, by Nancy Pelosi's Father.
Mic drop and walk off.
I hate when people interrupt myself. My retort as a moderator would be "If you can't follow basic debate rules and decorum in such a simple process, how well can you abide by the constitution as president? Shut the fuck up until it's your turn."
Great-Kazoo
09-29-2020, 23:55
I hate when people interrupt myself. My retort as a moderator would be "If you can't follow basic debate rules and decorum in such a simple process, how well can you abide by the constitution as president? Shut the fuck up until it's your turn."
if wallace did that we'd see VOTE CHRIS WALLACE, 3RD PARTY and win.
I wish Trump could just answer the questions clearly and let Biden stammer and answer the wrong damn question.
What I would have loved to hear Trump say in response to the first question: "Because the Constitution directs me to nominate a new justice and for the Senate to give advice and consent. What Biden wants me to do has no Constitutional basis. I was elected to a 4-year term and I plan to do the job for an entire 4 years."
Trump's response after Biden gets done wandering about with "the voters need to have a voice". "The voters do have a voice. They elected me and the Senators providing advice and consent."
Next question.
I couldn't give a shit about Trump's taxes. Did he not break the law? Did he pass an audit? As long as he's playing by the rules dictated by the politicians that built the tax code, the politicians don't get to whine about it.
Trump isn't taking a penny of his $400K/year government salary for the job. How much did Joe take from the taxpayers?
Next!
Undecided?/ Anyone who believes there's actually an undecided voter out there. is smoking crack. Nothing personal, just the truth. The only undecided voters are the ones who haven't crossed the border, yet.
Legally, or not.
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Many since 2000.
Some left the circle blank, because they do not like the candidates.
Way fucking More people like that than you believe.
Alfred E. Neuman for president.... What, me worry?
Yes, the debate sucked and it's naturally frustrating for any civil person to hear the constant interruptions by both parties. But Trump's job was to dominate, confound, confuse, and expose Biden's dementia, which he did.
Biden, pumped full of drugs, performed better than expected, but that's the advantage of a lifetime career politician. Trump's not a career politician, he's a wheeler-dealer who lacks the verbal intellect of politicos like Obama, Clinton and Reagan. Maybe that's why many people follow him despite his flaws.
I've never been a Trump fan but I like the policies he's pursued that has made nearly every working person in this country more prosperous.
Bailey Guns
09-30-2020, 04:53
It went downhill from the first question and only picked up speed. Frankly, I thought Wallace lost all control at the outset and never gained it back.
ETA: I have to give Dementia Joe credit...he held up and was able to answer questions better than I thought he would. His answers were all liberal bullshit and lies but he did remember them.
Holger Danske
09-30-2020, 07:12
I opted not to watch. I don't like the circus anyway.
Great-Kazoo
09-30-2020, 07:27
Many since 2000.
Some left the circle blank, because they do not like the candidates.
Way fucking More people like that than you believe.
That's not an undecided voter. Those are people disgusted / fed up with the political system.
Yet voted to put politicians in office, they felt might make a difference at the state & local level.
An undecided voter looks at the ballot, flips a coins and pics someone. Or stays home.
StagLefty
09-30-2020, 08:02
I expected a contentious debate but last night surpassed that by a mile. I don't think Trump did himself any favors and I could see Biden fading closer to the end. All in all it was a disgrace to the American process !!!! JMHO
We tried to watch, just couldn't stomach the chit show.
Need to find someone to moderate that doesn't have a clue who is debating, or at least doesn't have and show bias toward one or the other. It shouldn't turn into a debate between Moderator and a debater, as it seemed to me it was, what very little I watched. Actually we tuned in on 3 occasions, but didn't last long on any of them.
Bailey Guns
09-30-2020, 08:29
Chris Wallace didn't do himself any favors last night, either, with his obvious bias towards Biden.
Chris Wallace didn't do himself any favors last night, either, with his obvious bias towards Biden.
imagine being President Trump and fighting those lying leftists EVERY FUCKING DAY you're in office. The man has fortitude, he takes the fight right to them. Is it ugly and uncomfortable, we all know it, fights are ugly and uncomfortable.
The GOP has played nice because the GOP and the Democrats were on the same team. It isn't that way anymore, the old guard of the GOP wants their party back and the Democrats want their partners back.
That's not an undecided voter. Those are people disgusted / fed up with the political system.
Yet voted to put politicians in office, they felt might make a difference at the state & local level.
An undecided voter looks at the ballot, flips a coins and pics someone. Or stays home.
Every poll existed since we use math/poli sci had that little "undecided" % of metric. It may be small sample of the entire population, but does numbers do not lie.
That debate didn't help anyone. But, with the margins Biden has in just about each poll, in the end Trump ended up hurting himself more with that performance.
I know people will point to polls from 2016 being inaccurate, but this time there's far fewer undecided voters, more people hated Hillary than hate Biden, and the current unrest is showing that more young voters are likely to vote since Obama ran in 2008.
mindfold
09-30-2020, 11:23
Why can?t they shut off the other persons mic when not their turn to speak? And they get shut off at 2 minutes automatically.
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Great-Kazoo
09-30-2020, 12:21
Every poll existed since we use math/poli sci had that little "undecided" % of metric. It may be small sample of the entire population, but does numbers do not lie.
[LOL]Of course they don't
HILLARY BY A LANDSLIDE.
[LOL]Of course they don't
HILLARY BY A LANDSLIDE.
Read my statement again.
I was referring to samples people participated on the poll that they are undecided.
imagine being President Trump and fighting those lying leftists EVERY FUCKING DAY you're in office. The man has fortitude, he takes the fight right to them. Is it ugly and uncomfortable, we all know it, fights are ugly and uncomfortable.
The GOP has played nice because the GOP and the Democrats were on the same team. It isn't that way anymore, the old guard of the GOP wants their party back and the Democrats want their partners back.
Imagine having the time to insult and argue with random citizens who made a comment on twitter. Every POTUS has 150,000,000 million people who dislike them and make negative comments and lie about them. There's only one that ever thought it necessary to respond and insult each one individually. Trump's style of handling of disagreement is for no other reason that being a legit, bona-fide narcissist with the glass ego and delusions of grandeur that come with it, and there would be a lot less "attacks" if he was normal... or civil.
Try standing up in a crowded office space and constantly start shouting at your cubicle mate, inventing every colorful nickname you can think of. Yeah, that strategy doesn't buy you friends at work either.
That doesn't mean I support Biden. It's just a comment that we need to stop rationalizing every bad behavior to be either justified or good. Hell, people were CHEERING when Trump said he was probably entitled to a third term at a rally last month. It doesn't matter what he says, CHEER. We have to police our candidates, not worship them.
That said, we can agree to disagree, I do appreciate your differing opinion.
Imagine having the time to insult and argue with random citizens who made a comment on twitter. Every POTUS has 150,000,000 million people who dislike them and make negative comments and lie about them. There's only one that ever thought it necessary to respond and insult each one individually. Trump's style of handling of disagreement is for no other reason that being a legit, bona-fide narcissist with the glass ego and delusions of grandeur that come with it, and there would be a lot less "attacks" if he was normal... or civil.
Yup, tweeting back at those motherfuckers is a waste of time and energy. He needs to let it go.
Try standing up in a crowded office space and constantly start shouting at your cubicle mate, inventing every colorful nickname you can think of. Yeah, that strategy doesn't buy you friends at work either.
Democrats and half the Republicans aren't co-workers, they are the fucking enemy.
That doesn't mean I support Biden. It's just a comment that we need to stop rationalizing every bad behavior to be either justified or good. Hell, people were CHEERING when Trump said he was probably entitled to a third term at a rally last month. It doesn't matter what he says, CHEER. We have to police our candidates, not worship them.
Were they cheering or laughing that he just trolled the goddamn democrats again. I know don't want him to serve a 3rd term and I don't think he was serious, though it is hard to tell sometimes.
That said, we can agree to disagree, I do appreciate your differing opinion.
...and I appreciate yours.
Wallace really screwed the pooch, lost control early and showed blatant bias for Biden. I'm guessing he is getting some flak and probably is out as far as any future debates.
Trump was not going to be cornered by this puppet and the MSM. As childish as the exchange was, he did some damage to the Biden campaign and proved he was not going to be pushed around, good for him!
It will be interesting to see what changes the 'Commission of Presidential Debates' ( never heard of it ) comes up with on the rest of the debates, if there are any.
That debate didn't help anyone. But, with the margins Biden has in just about each poll, in the end Trump ended up hurting himself more with that performance.
I know people will point to polls from 2016 being inaccurate, but this time there's far fewer undecided voters, more people hated Hillary than hate Biden, and the current unrest is showing that more young voters are likely to vote since Obama ran in 2008.
The youth vote wont turn out, they never do. They didn’t turn out in the primaries like people thought they would as well.
Why can?t they shut off the other persons mic when not their turn to speak? And they get shut off at 2 minutes automatically.
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Moderator Chris Wallace Says Donald Trump Could Keep Interrupting Even If They Cut His Microphone (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/moderator-chris-wallace-says-donald-trump-could-keep-interrupting-even-if-they-cut-his-microphone/ar-BB19AGDu)
Chris keeps going further and further left, taking after his old man, Mike. I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves Fox before too long.
Great-Kazoo
09-30-2020, 20:10
Wallace really screwed the pooch, lost control early and showed blatant bias for Biden. I'm guessing he is getting some flak and probably is out as far as any future debates.
Trump was not going to be cornered by this puppet and the MSM. As childish as the exchange was, he did some damage to the Biden campaign and proved he was not going to be pushed around, good for him!
It will be interesting to see what changes the 'Commission of Presidential Debates' ( never heard of it ) comes up with on the rest of the debates, if there are any.
This debate has given the left a boost, for their calling it to be the first & last debate, before the election.
Wallace is under fire from even pmsnbc etc.
eddiememphis
09-30-2020, 20:25
Try standing up in a crowded office space and constantly start shouting at your cubicle mate, inventing every colorful nickname you can think of.
I have. At several jobs. That's why I am self employed now.
I have. At several jobs. That's why I am self employed now.
[Coffee] I think we all wish we could. Sometimes... a hero rises among us.
thedave1164
10-01-2020, 08:10
LOL,
Trump did what he set out to do.
Put his record out there every chance he got and challenged and discredited biden claims.
Wallace was a putz and clearly was on biden's team, making statements rather than asking questions.
There has not been a "fair" debate in decades, and those expecting one will be disappointed, those that try to debate in a fair manner will be defeated, Trump knows how to get his hands dirty and get the job done.
Ted Cruz might have been more polished, but 2 against one, he would not had prevailed and he is very good at debating.
Ted Cruz might have been more polished, but 2 against one, he would not had prevailed and he is very good at debating.
I was thinking about that this morning.
Ted Cruz wouldn't have been able to accomplish 1% of what President Trump has accomplished.
Aside from the twitter stuff which I don't see b/c I'm not on there much, President Trump is trying to kick their commie asses for us. We need to help his foot gain momentum.
Delfuego
10-01-2020, 09:02
Wutang 2020
I am voting for Ham Sandwich. It will be more presidential and predictable.
GilpinGuy
10-01-2020, 09:41
I am voting for Turd Sandwich. It will be more presidential and predictable.
FIFY
As for Ted Cruz, he is and was known for not giving in or compromising. Probably most conservative on a senate floor.
True conservatives, but as people said, it will be extremely difficult to get anything done as a president. However, he is starting to compromise a little like health issues.
I am voting for Cory Gardner, but Ted is probably opposite of Cory.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/03/10/politics/ted-cruz-guns/index.html
https://www.npr.org/2015/03/25/395309315/journalist-says-ted-cruzs-message-is-clear-that-compromise-is-for-losers
The youth vote wont turn out, they never do. They didn?t turn out in the primaries like people thought they would as well.
They didn't have all the racially motivated riots during most of the primaries. Plus, with everyone dropping out right before super Tuesday and virtually giving the race to Biden at that point, a lot of people were discouraged about voting.
Also just saw today that The Chamber of Commerce, the largest lobbying group for businesses, is in favor of a Biden win, and a Dem Senate majority in addition to the 23 Dem candidates in the House that they are donating to.
Aloha_Shooter
10-01-2020, 11:26
Anyone surprised by this?
83253
No.
Biden is sundowning, everyone knows it.
The democrats are actually voting for burn, loot, murder kamala.
BPTactical
10-01-2020, 12:05
Anyone surprised by this?
83253
The far right picture is the lower portion of a crucifix on a Rosary bracelet he wears.
The other pics- yeah, he was wired.
He wears a crucifix?!? His religion is The State, not God. Then again, maybe he wants to be a pedo-priest.
He wears a crucifix?!? His religion is The State, not God. Then again, maybe he wants to be a pedo-priest.
That was funny.
I am going to borrow this joke.
BushMasterBoy
10-01-2020, 21:05
If either one contracts COVID-19, they probably won't be inaugurated. It will probably kill them. I'm surprised I survived the infection. Last I heard Hope Hicks is infected now. More stupid shit to come...
If either one contracts COVID-19, they probably won't be inaugurated. It will probably kill them. I'm surprised I survived the infection. Last I heard Hope Hicks is infected now. More stupid shit to come...
https://www.ar-15.co/threads/180587-Trump-has-COVID-19
GilpinGuy
10-02-2020, 00:07
https://www.ar-15.co/threads/180587-Trump-has-COVID-19
Ha! You beat me to that!
BushMasterBoy
10-02-2020, 10:39
My post was first...
My post was first...
You get a cookie.
Great-Kazoo
10-02-2020, 21:05
You get a cookie.
And an Honorary SPACE FORCE pin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJ7l0kfDic
BushMasterBoy
10-03-2020, 12:48
They cloned my antibodies and gave them to him. You will only get the very best from Space Force.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exnETN6IxIc
VP debate.
It will be like Kamala attacking Biden*....
Pence is a guy who can debate clinton, Kennedy, Reagan, and still win......... 2024.
*substitute it with Pence.
This should be interesting. Harris is your typical radical and has a very short fuse. I think she's going to stumble and deflect questions/answers.
Pick her apart Mike. You got this!
hollohas
10-07-2020, 19:25
This should be interesting. Harris is your typical radical and has a very short fuse. I think she's going to stumble and deflect questions/answers.
Pick her apart Mike. You got this!She has the worst RBF I've ever seen. It amazing to see how smug she is. Truly a pro.
TEAMRICO
10-07-2020, 19:33
He is whipping her ass......smoooothly.
Harris has the body language that liberals salivate over, smug is the perfect word. So far, the moderator and both candidates are acting more civil than the big boys did.
Oops, hold that thought.
I didn't get a chance to watch the debate tonight, but the 60 seconds I saw tonight, and the 30ish minutes I saw of the last debate made me really miss my favorite politician of all time...
Budd Dwyer.
Kamala's body language was from a person who lived in CA toooooooooo long. VP Pence was talking to Kamala with similar fashion to teacher/counselor talking to his student.
Kamala wanted to bury VP Pence with FDA approval , clinical trials, etc. I thought she would have done better from past influence from her mom being scientist, but she did not. lol
Pence A
Kamala B+
MOD A+
buffalobo
10-07-2020, 21:28
flogger, +1, she reminded me of Rudy.
https://images.app.goo.gl/BDw88fHtjmMzWJJb8
I know it wasn?t a reality but I was really hoping pence would ask her why she was the VP pick for Biden considering in the 70s he said he wouldn?t want his children to grow up in a racial jungle, and most recently stated he could stay in his basement and isolate while some black woman stocked the shelves. Let alone the multiple other racist quotes he has said.
Or maybe just asked her how Joe said she smelled?
Smug? I thought smarmy was a better description.
StagLefty
10-08-2020, 07:12
Apparently her whole history lesson on Lincoln was a lie,according to the radio this morning !!!
I know it wasn't up to Pence to ask Cameltoe the questions, but I really wish he would've just stopped some where along the debate path and looked right at her and asked, "So Kamala, just how is it that you are now the running mate of the guy that you attacked and accused of being a racist back during the Democratic primary race?"
News reports are saying Trump is pulling out of the second debate since the organizers are only willing to have it be virtual.
Great-Kazoo
10-08-2020, 09:36
News reports are saying Trump is pulling out of the second debate since the organizers are only willing to have it be virtual.
which (imo) basically gives biden the win. Trump needs to man up and deal with it.
I didn't get a chance to watch the debate tonight, but the 60 seconds I saw tonight, and the 30ish minutes I saw of the last debate made me really miss my favorite politician of all time...
Budd Dwyer.
Hey man.
Nice shot.
which (imo) basically gives biden the win. Trump needs to man up and deal with it.
Disagree. Asking for a virtual debate makes Biden look shady...after all, if the debate's virtual, then there's no telling how much effort is going to go into making him look competent by his handlers.
And besides, if Biden can't handle a simple in-person debate, how am I supposed to trust him to be a competent president?
Is he going to ask for virtual discussions when meeting with Xi Jinping, or congress, or the press?
Is he too weak to fly to meetings on Air Force One? Too weak to negotiate trade deals, peace agreements, or wage war?
And if he's going to do everything virtually, then who are the people who will clearly have his ear, feeding him his talking points via an offscreen teleprompter?
10 ring
https://media.giphy.com/media/ui1hpJSyBDWlG/giphy.gif
Zundfolge
10-08-2020, 10:46
which (imo) basically gives biden the win. Trump needs to man up and deal with it.
In addition to the issues Justin points out, a virtual debate is a huge trap for Trump ... having an entire team of people off camera feeding you answers and researching for you is cheating ... and Democrats are all fucking cheaters.
Its not "manning up" by letting your opponent tie your hands behind your back, put a hood over your head and invite a dozen of his friends into the ring with baseball bats.
Biden and his handlers need to put on their big boy pants and show up in person.
No, no on the virtual debate. Biden's handler, aka the moderator, will have entirely too much control over what President Trump says, and more importantly, what President Trump hears. They will manipulate everything to put the sundowner in the best light. The entire purpose of the democrat's ticket is to make kamala president, biden is their trojan horse.
http://anodtothegods.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Ejz3ZbUXkAAeqOe.jpg
In addition to the issues Justin points out, a virtual debate is a huge trap for Trump ... having an entire team of people off camera feeding you answers and researching for you is cheating ... and Democrats are all fucking cheaters.
Its not "manning up" by letting your opponent tie your hands behind your back, put a hood over your head and invite a dozen of his friends into the ring with baseball bats.
Gotta go with GK on this one. Especially since most people know that the reason it's going virtual is because of his covid diagnosis and lack of transparency about his health since. If he's so worried about Biden cheating, then maybe his side should prep to do the same thing.
Zundfolge
10-08-2020, 11:50
If he's so worried about Biden cheating, then maybe his side should prep to do the same thing.
Then he'll be caught and it'll do 10 times more damage than not debating at all.
The game is rigged.
Bailey Guns
10-08-2020, 12:28
Gotta go with GK on this one. Especially since most people know that the reason it's going virtual is because of his covid diagnosis and lack of transparency about his health since. If he's so worried about Biden cheating, then maybe his side should prep to do the same thing.
Lack of transparency? Like what? I've been able to read updates on his health every day since he was diagnosed. And are you claiming potential cheating by the Biden campaign isn't an issue? And why would you criticize a perceived lack of transparency re: his health in one breath and then recommend he stoop to the level of the democrats in the next?
That sounds like a pretty fucked up way to run a railroad, in my opinion. Unless, of course, you're a democrat.
Lack of transparency? Like what? I've been able to read updates on his health every day since he was diagnosed. And are you claiming potential cheating by the Biden campaign isn't an issue? And why would you criticize a perceived lack of transparency re: his health in one breath and then recommend he stoop to the level of the democrats in the next?
That sounds like a pretty fucked up way to run a railroad, in my opinion. Unless, of course, you're a democrat.
When was his last negative COVID test in regards to his travel schedule? What's his most recent viral load count? What's the actual cocktail of medications he is receiving? Did he require oxygen therapy? Does he feel like the douche canoe most people think he is for getting sick from a liberal hoax? Remember, the virus was supposed to just drop off in April when it got hot outside according to him.
I think that the idea of the Biden campaign cheating is overblown by people. If you're that worried about it, make sure people from your side are there to watch and make sure there's no assistance. Don't throw a public tantrum just because you don't get everything you wanted when it's your fault that these changes are being made.
President Trump was utterly forthright with his C19 issue. We knew when he got it, we knew when he went to Walter Reed, we knew he experienced some distress on Friday, we knew his treatment regimen, we knew when he was feeling better and when he got out.
What did we miss here?
You knew what you were told. Exactly the same as everything the government says or does. Believing that left government is different than right government is purely a fabricated mechanism to allow people to sleep at night after they've chosen a side. No comment beyond that with respect to the debate and how it should be handled.
Gotta go with GK on this one. Especially since most people know that the reason it's going virtual is because of his covid diagnosis and lack of transparency about his health since. If he's so worried about Biden cheating, then maybe his side should prep to do the same thing.
The point of a debate is to see how well a candidate can answer societal-level questions and address the criticisms of his/her opponent on the fly. It's a litmus test to feel out if a potential national level leader is quick on their feet, not to test how competent their clandestine IT team is.
Saying that it's ok to game the debate by allowing both teams to have clandestine googlers sitting in a dark room feeding them information through an earpiece or teleprompter not only completely defeats the purpose of having a debate in the first place, it's also solid beta behavior.
Maybe both party should agree to 3min talk than 2min talk.
They both needed more time.
Maybe both party should agree to 3min talk than 2min talk.
They both needed more time.
I would agree. For something that's as big a deal as a presidential election, you'd think they'd give them more time. 90 minutes is quite short, and giving 15 seconds for a rebuttal is idiotic.
The current debate format is so stupid I'm surprised anyone watches it at all. When asked what someone's thoughts are on a topic, or how they plan to accomplish something of any level of significance, a 30 second response is insulting more than anything
Bailey Guns
10-08-2020, 15:01
Believing that left government is different than right government is purely a fabricated mechanism to allow people to sleep at night after they've chosen a side.
100 million people who died under leftist governments during the 20th century would disagree with you. Of course, I don't think the US is there just yet. But if you don't think a Biden (or inevitably a Harris) administration will be different than a Trump administration, you have seriously not been paying attention. The differences between right and left, even in this country, are striking and tangible.
I didn't vote for Trump last time, but am very seriously considering it this time. Only because there does not seem to be any other options that are even remotely viable.
Bailey Guns
10-08-2020, 15:12
When was his last negative COVID test in regards to his travel schedule? What's his most recent viral load count? What's the actual cocktail of medications he is receiving? Did he require oxygen therapy? Does he feel like the douche canoe most people think he is for getting sick from a liberal hoax? Remember, the virus was supposed to just drop off in April when it got hot outside according to him.
I think that the idea of the Biden campaign cheating is overblown by people. If you're that worried about it, make sure people from your side are there to watch and make sure there's no assistance. Don't throw a public tantrum just because you don't get everything you wanted when it's your fault that these changes are being made.
You don't deserve, and you're not going to get, that level of detail into any president's medical condition. It's not relevant to your, or my, everyday functioning.
Do you work for the media, by chance? You sound like you'd be a perfect debate moderator. Highly critical of Trump, Biden gets a pass.
Why is it any time Trump complains about something it's a "tantrum" or he's "on the attack" or whatever the platitude of the day is to describe him? When the left does the same thing they're "raising serious questions" or "showing real concern" about the issue. Oh, wait. I know. Because there's a massive double standard in play with regards to Trump and whomever we're talking about on the left.
The next step is to attack anyone who defends Trump as one of his brainwashed minions, uneducated redneck, Trump fan-boy, mindless followers, etc.
Lets just have all the next debates be VP debates anyway. There's a significant chance a lot of people will either be voting for Pence or Kamala as POTUS anyway. I do like Pence... if they dropped the "huuuge" walking mouth off the ticket, I'd be a hell of a Pence supporter.
Bailey Guns
10-08-2020, 16:45
Yes, Trump's a blowhard. And he says shit and tweets shit he shouldn't. If that was illegal most of us would be in big trouble. And he's done some stupid shit like the bump-stock ban. But big picture he's been a good president and I can't see how any rational person could even consider Biden over Trump. Especially if you're gonna rant about character.
Having said that, Trump's done more good things for this country in his 3.5-ish years than any president I can recall.
hollohas
10-08-2020, 18:00
Gotta go with GK on this one. Especially since most people know that the reason it's going virtual is because of his covid diagnosis and lack of transparency about his health since. If he's so worried about Biden cheating, then maybe his side should prep to do the same thing.He's tested negative multiple times now apparently. The Trump campaign is demanding they still do both the 2nd and 3rd debates in person, just a bit later. And that's a FAIR request. A virtual debate is not a fair request.
When was his last negative COVID test in regards to his travel schedule? What's his most recent viral load count? What's the actual cocktail of medications he is receiving? Did he require oxygen therapy? Does he feel like the douche canoe most people think he is for getting sick from a liberal hoax? Remember, the virus was supposed to just drop off in April when it got hot outside according to him.
I think that the idea of the Biden campaign cheating is overblown by people. If you're that worried about it, make sure people from your side are there to watch and make sure there's no assistance. Don't throw a public tantrum just because you don't get everything you wanted when it's your fault that these changes are being made.
Virtual debate because Covid, then place opposition observers in the same room. ROFL.
hollohas
10-08-2020, 18:08
Virtual debate because Covid, then place opposition observers in the same room. ROFL.Exactly what I thought.
hollohas
10-08-2020, 18:13
The Dr's say he's go for public events this weekend. That's all we need to hear to do the in person debate. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201009/4707738e1d474694e0373c6aab89a7c4.jpg
BushMasterBoy
10-08-2020, 20:10
https://www.amc.af.mil/Portals/12/Users/032/88/288/SNS_Brochure_2010F.pdf?ver=2017-07-19-165239-657
Bailey Guns
10-08-2020, 21:18
They didn't include his A1C and cholesterol levels in that release. Obviously they're not being transparent because they're hiding something.
Aloha_Shooter
10-08-2020, 21:34
Biden’s already been shown to have cheated so suspicions about what he’d do in a virtual debate are not[I] “overblown”. The demand for virtual debating is trying to take advantage of the prior diagnosis to shield Biden from proving his incompetence and inability to talk extemporaneously yet again. His stock response when he gets off-script is “c’mon, man”.
Note: my mother just said my ballot arrived at her house today. I haven’t voted as a resident of Hawaii since 1992. I think the Dems are pulling every string, every dirty trick they can to avoid a repeat of 1984.
Bailey Guns
10-09-2020, 05:32
Yep...Biden's been caught plagiarizing over and over for decades. It's in his character to lie and cheat. Then again, he's a democrat.
Bailey Guns
10-09-2020, 06:07
The playing field was already stacked against Trump at the scheduled 2nd debate with Steve Scully as the moderator. Of course, Scully is "unbiased, despite having worked on Ted Kennedy's staff and interned for Biden. Then Scully gets caught sending a Tweet, rather than a DM, to Anthony Scaramucci, a rabid anti-Trumper, asking Scaramucci, "Should I respond to Trump?"
But the worries of democrats cheating during a debate, virtual or otherwise, are "overblown". Yeah...right. Don't piss on my leg then try to convince me it's just raining.
hollohas
10-09-2020, 06:27
Yeah, the debate commission is showing its true colors. The concern of bias and cheating is NOT overblown.
Here's a tweet by the moderator who was going to be running the virtual debate.."Not Trump, not ever".
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201009/853c1e17f18364e43c26b9019b7f1a9f.jpg
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