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I've been kicking around the idea of a Harvest Right freezer dryer for over a year. Probably a medium and the oil-free pump. It ain't exactly a cheap buy.
The freedom of freeze drying one's own food, and a variety of things to boot, seems like a really good prepping value add assuming they actually do it.
Additionally, the ability to do snacks and things not normally available on the commercial market would boost morale and trading potential.
I think the biggest thing is stuff like raw eggs, cooked and/or raw meat, etc.
It would seem that over time, with enough use, it would "pay" for itself. The energy consumption is negligible (roughly $3 a session).
Wondering if anyone has one and what their thoughts are?
hollohas
10-20-2020, 18:25
I don't have one, but am saving up for one. Wanted one for years I love the idea of freeze drying at home.
Hard no. Personal opinion of course. I trust mountain house more than myself making 10 year shelf stable food vs me hoodratting It in my garage
If it gets to the point i need freeze dried food on a day to day basis then there won?t be electricity to replenish my stores so the machine would Be almost impossible to use.
Even if my hens are dead so no fresh eggs and The garden failed 3 years in a row due to lack of water plague or hail So no fresh veggies anything I scraped together I would still prioritize canning food over freeze drying. Texture taste etc has a large impact on emotional health
I can buy a lot of non perishables for 3k
My intention wouldn't be the use it during a moment of need, but to hedge against that need and use it before. A lot of things we currently own will be useless in the future, but that doesn't make them useless now. So I would argue your syllogism is flawed.
Freeze dried food retains more nutrients and a lot of stuff reconstitutes to its pre-dried texture, or close enough.
As for trusting Mountain House, their stuff is fine (though over salted and not really meant for long term consumption, and way overpriced for what you get), but the effort isn't just about prepping in the end of the world/social collapse sense. It can also allow hedging against price rises. For example, if one finds a bunch of ground beef or steak, etc., on sale and at a great price they could FD it and it will be stable for years and years without needing to use a freezer to keep it. And it's unlikely one will be able to make that purchase at that price in 5 years.
Yeah, one can buy a lot of beans and rice for 3k. But back to your point about morale and emotional health... ;)
I didn't realize this, but apparently they can be used for vacuum sealing canning jars that have dry goods.
He demonstrates at the end of this video on freeze drying rice:
start at 10:46 for just the vacuum sealing, but the whole video is interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18NO1BQsumk
Would be interesting to make some chicken/rice and FD it and seal in jars using this method. Reconstitute and voila.
That was pretty cool!
I'm always on the lookout for new ways of preserving food.
Oh, and in case you don't have a food saver mason jar vacuum sealer lid, you can vacuum seal dry goods using a container made from PVC piping, sealer, and end caps. Use a brake bleeder, and you don't even have to use a food saver!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkGH21AopVQ
As far as the Freeze dryer, I think it's a great investment. Even if you don't grow everything to freeze dry, there are usually a good number of sales throughout the year. Eggs go on sale in springtime, around $4 per 5 dozen. I'd love to know how rhubarb does in the freeze-dryer! And freeze-dried strawberries? YUM.
My reply Came off as dickish.
I have never really liked the freeze dried food.
May have stemmed from having to live off mountain house type meals lotsa mres and Bulk made ham and cheese sandwich’s during fire season and that tainted my views.
The bottom dropped out of the cbd market last year and they use freeze driers for product extraction. keep an eye on Craigslist and fb marketplace you might be able to scoop one up cheap
buffalobo
10-22-2020, 20:28
"The bottom dropped out of the cbd market last year and they use freeze driers for product extraction. keep an eye on Craigslist and fb marketplace you might be able to scoop one up cheap."
Tip of the week. [emoji106]
My reply Came off as dickish.
I have never really liked the freeze dried food.
May have stemmed from having to live off mountain house type meals lotsa mres and Bulk made ham and cheese sandwich’s during fire season and that tainted my views.
The bottom dropped out of the cbd market last year and they use freeze driers for product extraction. keep an eye on Craigslist and fb marketplace you might be able to scoop one up cheap
I don't think it was "dickish". Just you speaking to your preference. I don't think most commercial freeze dried food is good either. Way too oversalted, etc. Because it's meant for hikers. This elk season I had a few mountain house meals that came out smelling like they went in. Only answer to that is they are over processed. That's not what I want. I want to be able to FD whatever we have left over, come up with, etc.
And.... astronaut ice cream! As a former Florida resident....
That was pretty cool!
I'm always on the lookout for new ways of preserving food.
Oh, and in case you don't have a food saver mason jar vacuum sealer lid, you can vacuum seal dry goods using a container made from PVC piping, sealer, and end caps. Use a brake bleeder, and you don't even have to use a food saver!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkGH21AopVQ
As far as the Freeze dryer, I think it's a great investment. Even if you don't grow everything to freeze dry, there are usually a good number of sales throughout the year. Eggs go on sale in springtime, around $4 per 5 dozen. I'd love to know how rhubarb does in the freeze-dryer! And freeze-dried strawberries? YUM.
My wife is very much in the camp of "this feels like extra work." Yeah, babe, it is. But it's not as extra as extra+future.
I've been wanting to buy a harvest right as well. I think it would be nice to use leftovers in it and build up a supply of food for future use. As well as taking advantage of food sales etc.
Some of the odd ball snacks you can put in there are pretty good too. Ice cream sandwiches, skittles etc. Makes a unique and tasty treat.
I've been wanting to buy a harvest right as well. I think it would be nice to use leftovers in it and build up a supply of food for future use. As well as taking advantage of food sales etc.
Some of the odd ball snacks you can put in there are pretty good too. Ice cream sandwiches, skittles etc. Makes a unique and tasty treat.
They're having a black friday (https://harvestright.com/shop/) sale right now
https://harvestright.com/shop/
They're having a black friday (https://harvestright.com/shop/) sale right now
https://harvestright.com/shop/
It was really tempting!! They also had them at my local murdochs this past week too. I think 10% off as well.
Great-Kazoo
12-06-2020, 08:13
2 people i know down here have them. Both are happy with the results and capability, to fd almost any kind of food. I , atm see no reason to get one, since they've said i could use their driers, as needed. Their messing around with various snacks has produced some interesting and tasty things. The worst is the fd reeses pb cups. The eggs from their cluckers have been interesting as fd foods.
theGinsue
12-06-2020, 19:44
I don't have one, but am saving up for one. Wanted one for years I love the idea of freeze drying at home.
This is me too.
Been looking at the Harvest Right website on and of or just over 2 years. It's definitely going to be a hard sell to get the Mrs. onboard though so I've held off - for now.
ChadAmberg
12-06-2020, 22:29
I was watching Steve1989 do a Thanksgiving dinner in one earlier today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9183p7iJ5E0
Yeah, saw that too. The crunchy FD dressing sounded interesting to me.
This is me too.
Been looking at the Harvest Right website on and of or just over 2 years. It's definitely going to be a hard sell to get the Mrs. onboard though so I've held off - for now.
This is exactly where I'm at... She was pretty much on board (with an eyeroll) until she saw the cost.
A good friend has one. His complaint is that it’s extremely slow. I haven’t used it myself, but I lost interest after talking to him about it.
A good friend has one. His complaint is that it’s extremely slow. I haven’t used it myself, but I lost interest after talking to him about it.
How old is his? They have several versions of the software. Older SW versions aren't as efficient with the sensors and take longer. It also depends on if he pre-freezes the food, etc. People report a reduction of total time by up to 20 hours. However, some people are going back to the older SW as it had certain features the new "smarter" versions don't. HR will email the various versions to the user. If he is on an older version, he should email HR and ask if they will send him the newer version (assuming his machine will accept it).
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regarding the oil free pump:
Looking at a bunch of harvest Right FB groups, I learned the oil free actually requires servicing by Harvest Right every year or two depending on use. That service cost is ~$400+shipping. The premier pump can go multiple loads without filtering the oil, is quieter, and if it ever breaks the replacement cost works better than the initial oil free+service costs.
HR isn't exactly advertising that aspect of the oil free pump, so it seems the premier is the best value add over the standard pump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD3W1tZreUo
Comparison of standard vs premier (not the oil free).
tactical_2012
12-29-2020, 14:40
I have heard their customer service isn't that great. Looked them up on BBB and there are several complaints
I have heard their customer service isn't that great. Looked them up on BBB and there are several complaints
I suppose it would depend. On the facebook groups people seem pretty pleased, and indicate good CS when they have issues. They've exploded as a company though. Bound to be some people who aren't happy (whether rightly or wrongly). I honestly cannot say what the BBB ratings would indicate. 7 out of 19 were negative. Some seemed like they didn't understand what they were getting into. It's not for everyone though. It's an emerging technology to be able to do this stuff at home and as far as I know, they are the only company tapping the home freeze drying market.
Got the HR Medium. The premier pump is on back order so they sent a complimentary standard pump I get to keep once the premier is in.
Finally got it unboxed, set up per the manual (seriously, guys, read the manual), and checked over.
Did the function test and it works fine. I was surprised how quickly it got to operational vacuum pressure.
Will do the bread test tomorrow (spray some bread with vinegar and run a cycle; ensures a full cycle and helps absorb any residual smells). After that I’ll try out strawberries or making astronaut ice cream. From there, sky is the limit.
https://youtu.be/X-FlhxijQdk
I look forward to hearing about your results. I've always been curious about this!
Indeed
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ChadAmberg
01-04-2021, 16:34
Very cool, lots of good things you can try!
Bread run complete with no issues:
https://i.imgur.com/1VdCguw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rIHiHQ8.jpg
I sprayed each slice with a generous amount of apple cider vinegar and water mix and placed 3 to a tray. Bread used was Nature's Own, which has a more golden appearance before FD'ing and kept that color in areas where no mixture was applied.
No smell was noticed upon cycle completion and machine opening. All pieces were thoroughly dried.
Oil still looks good. The new standard pumps can go about 4-5 cycles before oil change is needed. One can filter and reuse oil. Premier pumps are about 20-30 cycles before filtering is needed. Oil-less pumps obviously don't have that, but they do need maintenance by HR after a particular period of use.
First real load in: 4lbs of pre-sliced/frozen strawberries and 4 apples sliced.
We'll see how this goes.
First batch complete: 4 pounds (pre-freeze dry) pre-frozen/sliced strawberries and 4 apples sliced.
Total time: 24 hours and 59 minutes
I probably would have let this go a little longer and extended the final dry since strawberries can be deceptive (the seeds can retain moisture which gets released), but the kids are going to plow through this in no time.
Below you will see the final screen, end product (after some was eaten), and the natural ice build up which you can defrost either naturally (leave the door open and let it melt and go into the drain at the back) or let the machine defrost itself. Given how cold my garage is I opted for machine defrost.
Oil is still good to go it seems in the standard pump. Baby is due any day now, so I'm going to hold off another batch until he comes so I don't have a case of bad timing.
https://i.imgur.com/Xuc2MM2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WJ04a2W.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SbRhErW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xzzJkm1.jpg
tactical_2012
01-06-2021, 18:34
How's much did the setup cost you shipped?
How's much did the setup cost you shipped?
https://i.imgur.com/YT5SWxX.jpg
I asked for an extra set of trays as well and they included them gratis. Premier pump is on back order so I got a free standard pump that I get to keep once they ship my premier.
Seamonkey
01-11-2021, 01:28
as a n00b I've yet to learn canning! Still working on a full 90 day stash much less over 3 years :P
This review lists many of the uses and yes, they mention astronaut ice cream and strawberries. Preserving eggs, soups, making bouillon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2Z56JFObqI&list=PLW0m-RUVRO1oDQWW24qIH3dKul6eqWj0X&index=1
Just did the first attempt at ice cream.
Did 3 trays (almost 5qt) of Sam’s club Cookies and Cream ice cream.
Also did a tray of homemade ice cream custard that a friend gave me to try.
All turned out very well in a little less than 24 hours.
https://i.imgur.com/HA1YR9t.jpg
Is the picture the before, or after?
Is the picture the before, or after?
After. I pre-froze everything so there would be no melting when starting. Everything held its shape well. The custard could be easily powdered. Liquid tends to turn into a very brittle, powdery substance. Solids generally retain size and shape with a small amount of shrinkage (expected due to the cold I guess? [ROFL1]).
I'm curious about how freeze drying affects foods as far food safety. Like does the process do anything to kill bacteria like cooking does? I suspect that's a pretty broad question though, that will take me down a rabbit hole that I don't have time for at the moment.
It doesn’t kill viruses/bacteria. Proper handling techniques are still needed from prep to storage. Nutritional values lose only roughly 3% vs huge drops in dehydrating and canning.
How do you like it now? If you still have it.
I still have it. I like it. I haven't had any issues as far as the product itself. I had one or two batches of things that didn't turn out well (mango chunks just took way too long, and one time I used a different ice cream that puffed up on me instead of the tried and true Sam's club cheap stuff).
The support available from Harvest Right and the global freeze drying community is excellent. There's enough of these out in the wild that someone has an answer to a question, solutions to prevent particular problems, etc. People are innovating accessories for it. I even 3D printed a funnel to help with getting food in the bags.
[B]What have you done with it?
We have done everything from soups to desserts (ice cream, mainly), fruit, entrees, and raw eggs (allows full use rather than being roped into scrambled). The key, like any food processing, is a plan. As I've gained familiarity with it, the less esoteric certain things are and the more comfortable I am doing things. As I familiarize more with how certain things do in it, I can come up with a better plan on larger scale production.
Happy with the purchase?
Yes. Aside from being about the only player in the home freeze drying market, Harvest Right generally has a good product. Some people have gotten a bad machine or complain, but they seem to be the vocal minority. What I've seen on the various support groups is about a 50/50 split of complaints being actual problems (usually won't achieve vacuum) vs jumping in and not reading directions or misunderstanding how the thing works and skipping steps.
Noise has been negligible, but people seem concerned about that. We have it in the basement and when running, cannot hear it upstairs. I can barely hear it in the basement unless I'm in the actual room it's in. The pump does generate heat, so I usually leave a floor fan on pointed at the pump. The fan is about as noisy as the machine/pump when runnning.
Regrets?
Generally, no. I'm happy with the premium pump vs the oil-less. The premium doesn't require annual maintenance by Harvest Right and I can go about 20+ cycles before needing to change the oil (quick process anyway).
I dunno if it would be a regret per se, but I haven't used it as much as I thought I would. But the things I've done with it are really only possible with it, and the end product is always superior to stuff like Mountain House.
If I were counting on it as a sole means of food storage preparation, I would go with the Large. I didn't because that requires a dedicated 20amp circuit, which dictates placement. If I were a person in a definite long-term/non-rental place and I knew that I'd be using it a lot, or for a lot of food, I'd go for the Large and plan that 20amp circuit for an outlet I would just leave the thing. As it is, the Medium has been sufficient.
My addition:
Would I recommend purchase?
It really depends on one's tolerance for investing their money and time into learning and using the product. In general, yes. Who would I recommend NOT purchase? Someone who wants a magic solution or treats it like a boat, where they only "take it out" a few times a year. Such a person would be better off finding deals on already prepared food and just stocking up. It's not insignificant work to prep the food, FD it, and then process for storage. But it's not a huge time sink. Less than canning, for sure. One has to want to do it and be honest about their goals with it.
I'd say it analogous to a reloading kit. The person who wants 100 rounds a year for hunting zeroing and a few possible shots on an animal doesn't really need a reloading kit. Hoser and others definitely do need a reloading capability due to volume shot per year. Somewhere in between, it depends on one's time/money investment tolerances. I decided reloading wasn't worth it to me vs just buying ammo, as my time is low. Similarly, for freeze drying, I fall somewhere in between true need and hobbyist. I cannot purchase some of the things I've FD'ed. Some of it I wouldn't want to purchase on market, after experiencing things like Mountain House which frankly taste disgusting compared to home made food.
So yes, I'd recommend purchase if a person is honest with themselves about expectations, capabilities, and usage potential.
buffalobo
11-30-2021, 11:05
Its been 10 months or so since you posted this.
How do you like it now? If you still have it. What have you done with it? Happy with the purchase? Regrets?
How do you like it now? If you still have it.
I still have it. I like it. I haven't had any issues as far as the product itself. I had one or two batches of things that didn't turn out well (mango chunks just took way too long, and one time I used a different ice cream that puffed up on me instead of the tried and true Sam's club cheap stuff).
The support available from Harvest Right and the global freeze drying community is excellent. There's enough of these out in the wild that someone has an answer to a question, solutions to prevent particular problems, etc. People are innovating accessories for it. I even 3D printed a funnel to help with getting food in the bags.
[B]What have you done with it?
We have done everything from soups to desserts (ice cream, mainly), fruit, entrees, and raw eggs (allows full use rather than being roped into scrambled). The key, like any food processing, is a plan. As I've gained familiarity with it, the less esoteric certain things are and the more comfortable I am doing things. As I familiarize more with how certain things do in it, I can come up with a better plan on larger scale production.
Happy with the purchase?
Yes. Aside from being about the only player in the home freeze drying market, Harvest Right generally has a good product. Some people have gotten a bad machine or complain, but they seem to be the vocal minority. What I've seen on the various support groups is about a 50/50 split of complaints being actual problems (usually won't achieve vacuum) vs jumping in and not reading directions or misunderstanding how the thing works and skipping steps.
Noise has been negligible, but people seem concerned about that. We have it in the basement and when running, cannot hear it upstairs. I can barely hear it in the basement unless I'm in the actual room it's in. The pump does generate heat, so I usually leave a floor fan on pointed at the pump. The fan is about as noisy as the machine/pump when runnning.
Regrets?
Generally, no. I'm happy with the premium pump vs the oil-less. The premium doesn't require annual maintenance by Harvest Right and I can go about 20+ cycles before needing to change the oil (quick process anyway).
I dunno if it would be a regret per se, but I haven't used it as much as I thought I would. But the things I've done with it are really only possible with it, and the end product is always superior to stuff like Mountain House.
If I were counting on it as a sole means of food storage preparation, I would go with the Large. I didn't because that requires a dedicated 20amp circuit, which dictates placement. If I were a person in a definite long-term/non-rental place and I knew that I'd be using it a lot, or for a lot of food, I'd go for the Large and plan that 20amp circuit for an outlet I would just leave the thing. As it is, the Medium has been sufficient.
My addition:
Would I recommend purchase?
It really depends on one's tolerance for investing their money and time into learning and using the product. In general, yes. Who would I recommend NOT purchase? Someone who wants a magic solution or treats it like a boat, where they only "take it out" a few times a year. Such a person would be better off finding deals on already prepared food and just stocking up. It's not insignificant work to prep the food, FD it, and then process for storage. But it's not a huge time sink. Less than canning, for sure. One has to want to do it and be honest about their goals with it.
I'd say it analogous to a reloading kit. The person who wants 100 rounds a year for hunting zeroing and a few possible shots on an animal doesn't really need a reloading kit. Hoser and others definitely do need a reloading capability due to volume shot per year. Somewhere in between, it depends on one's time/money investment tolerances. I decided reloading wasn't worth it to me vs just buying ammo, as my time is low. Similarly, for freeze drying, I fall somewhere in between true need and hobbyist. I cannot purchase some of the things I've FD'ed. Some of it I wouldn't want to purchase on market, after experiencing things like Mountain House which frankly taste disgusting compared to home made food.
So yes, I'd recommend purchase if a person is honest with themselves about expectations, capabilities, and usage potential.Thanks.[emoji106]
I'm seeing these in a lot more places than previous.
Did you notice a huge jump in your electric bill when using this?
I'm seeing these in a lot more places than previous.
Did you notice a huge jump in your electric bill when using this?
I haven't paid attention or noticed any insane jumps in costs for electricity. I suppose I *should* get a watt meter to plug in and keep track of it.
ETA: Most things seem to run about 24 hours w/ the Premium pump. The standard pump wasn't as efficient and ran longer. I often will extend time such as if a session runs long and I need to get to work or we are going somewhere.
I personally like to pre-freeze everything I put in, regardless of if it's a liquid. I find I get better results when I do that. So if you only have 1 set of trays (most people ask HR for an extra set) you are looking at the following turnaround:
1 day in freezer
1 day FD
6 hours defrost (I just let it defrost naturally rather than letting the machine do it).
That about what.... 10-14 runs a month on a pretty consistent schedule? Some people do more runs. The pre-freezing of food in a regular freezer and the defrost take time. But the actual engagement with the thing is... minimal. The post-FD placing in bags is what takes longest and that's maybe 10 min per load all in.
Thank you! That's far less than I expected.
I think this is something that needs to move up a bit on my list to purchase next year.
Thank you! That's far less than I expected.
I think this is something that needs to move up a bit on my list to purchase next year.
Keep in mind that the cost, while initially high, actually isn't bad when you compare current cost for Mountain House and other similar brands. And YOU are controlling what goes into the food.
It doesn't have to be a special event, either. You could simply plan out meals for a week and make extra food per meal, and freeze dry every couple of days as a way to start out. Any leftovers get FD. etc.
We have found that things like soups are really easy to reconstitute and heat up for a quick, but still home made, meal.
One can use it with a variety of approaches. Some are hardcore preppers that run the thing as much as possible, look for sales on things, and do batches of that food almost exclusively; they see the most value and recouping of cost. Others are more in the middle. Others, like myself, go in spurts. Sometimes I might not touch it for a few weeks. Other times I am checking defrost status so I can push the next load.
The key in my opinion is simply looking at if it's worth it for you.
Brian (RetiredAt40 channel) does a good breakdown here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx7vLQiIMCQ
Here's a cross section of some of the things I've done more recently.
https://i.imgur.com/qULoj5V.jpg
Curry chicken and rice
Smoked chicken and rice
Ice cream
https://i.imgur.com/jxeNDz2.jpg
Sweet potato soup
Bush's baked beans (removed fatty bacon pieces since pure fat doesn't FD well)
Strawberries and bananas
Under ideal storage conditions, all these should last at least 20 years if not longer. Mountain House claims 30 years on theirs.
The ingredients were fresh, no preservatives, flavor profiles to our liking, and aside from the fruit and ice cream, are unavailable in commercial brands. The quantities are as much or more than commercial for a fraction of the cost.
Thank You for the update.
TheGrey, the people who make videos on youtube use their wattmeter to check electricity usage. It looks like they are using $1.50 to $2.00 for most runs of about 36-48 hours, in the medium machine. $3 a run for the really long runs in a large machine. they are basing that on .10 a kwh. So, if you actually ran it all month long, maybe $30 increase based on the $2. per load.
I would like to know if CS1983 found the same.
Verified from a friend who has one. $19 increase for 8 loads medium
I'll check out the videos. I've been a canning fool as of late, but have seen how people are starting to can soup mixes made from freeze-dried stuff they've done themselves. I really don't have much on hand of freeze-dried foods, but I'm game to consider other options besides canning - especially since I am getting low on wide-mouth jar lids and haven't been lucky enough to locate any this year.
longrange2
03-19-2022, 14:26
Great thread, I am thinking about buying one of these. Do you tend to store everything in Mylar or do you put some things in jars or #10 cans? I think it would be good to add O2 absorbers to the packages of anything I wanted to keep longer term
gta_spec
03-19-2022, 22:50
Is anyone vacuuming their bags before sealing? Or something other than just dropping in an oxygen absorber?
I didn't like how the oxygen absorber has moisture. So I started purging the bags with argon before sealing.
The bags are slightly inflated and any residual atmosphere should float to the top of the bag.
longrange2
03-19-2022, 23:03
I’m wondering about taste and texture of items freeze dried at home. Just don’t want to spend $3k if we wouldn’t be happy with the results. With everything going on it would be nice to freeze dry meats and other food items in the event of disruptions to supply train, I.e. lack of fertilizer, rising fuel costs, etc.
Harvest right is now offering layaway 0% with $250 down
Great thread, I am thinking about buying one of these. Do you tend to store everything in Mylar or do you put some things in jars or #10 cans? I think it would be good to add O2 absorbers to the packages of anything I wanted to keep longer term
Apologies, and not sure if you will see this, but I was putting everything in mylar bags for storage in tote bins. I would always do the oxygen absorbers unless you plan to use very soon or are doing something like vacuum sealing (and even then) or purging with another gas.
I?m wondering about taste and texture of items freeze dried at home. Just don?t want to spend $3k if we wouldn?t be happy with the results. With everything going on it would be nice to freeze dry meats and other food items in the event of disruptions to supply train, I.e. lack of fertilizer, rising fuel costs, etc.
Think Mountain House and other FD food brands. Some things will not reconstitute the same as fresh. Just an unfortunate fact. The key is FD food retains something like 97% of nutrients.
Meat: you can FD raw or cooked. The key is trim as much fat as possible. If ground beef get the leanest you can and consider even rinsing it after cooking it up before you FD it. Fat doesn't FD, so fat in/on meat is your enemy for retaining freshness.
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