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StagLefty
10-22-2020, 07:46
https://news.yahoo.com/hunter-biden-business-partner-confirms-132058268.html

roberth
10-22-2020, 08:17
Corruption, Biden is a ChiCom asset. Ukraine payments were rewards for US foreign aid, obama likely got a cut of the money he sent to Iran.

If Donald Trump was doing any of this it would be on the front page in large font.

Pravda and Isvestia will provide cover for their fellow travelers.

Fox is reporting that Harris is part of the ChiCom "key domestic contact".

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jim-hunter-biden-china-joint-venture-key-contacts


EXCLUSIVE: A list of “key domestic contacts” for a joint venture involving Jim and Hunter Biden and now-bankrupt CEFC China Energy Co. included former Vice President Joe Biden (https://www.foxnews.com/category/person/joe-biden)'s current running mate Sen. Kamala Harris, among other prominent Democrats, Fox News has learned.


An email exclusively obtained by Fox News, with the subject line “Phase one domestic contacts/ projects” and dated May 15, 2017, Biden’s brother, Jim Biden, shared a list of “key domestic contacts for phase one target projects.”
The email is unrelated to the laptop or hard drive purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden, the former vice president's son.

Erni
10-22-2020, 08:59
Corruption, Biden is a ChiCom asset. Ukraine payments were rewards for US foreign aid, obama likely got a cut of the money he sent to Iran.

If Donald Trump was doing any of this it would be on the front page in large font.

Pravda and Isvestia will provide cover for their fellow travelers.

Fox is reporting that Harris is part of the ChiCom "key domestic contact".

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jim-hunter-biden-china-joint-venture-key-contacts

Here is a scary thought for you. What if biden/harris winning the presidency is phase one of the project?


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BPTactical
10-22-2020, 09:03
And exactly dick will become of it.

FoxtArt
10-22-2020, 09:15
Yup. That will sway opinion 1/10th of 1% if you are lucky. Our system doesn't let you upset the apple cart right before an election.

StagLefty
10-22-2020, 09:36
And exactly dick will become of it.

The only way I heard of this was on the radio about 2 a.m. No mention at all this morning on MSM !!!!

Irving
10-22-2020, 09:44
Here is a Fox News article. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jim-hunter-biden-china-joint-venture-key-contacts.amp

Pretty sure I saw another headline last night in the news feed as well.

colorider
10-22-2020, 09:49
Biden voters don’t care. Or don’t believe it. It won’t matter until after the election. After the election it will be scorched earth with the investigations.

roberth
10-22-2020, 09:52
https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/059/088/294/original/6015160d5f00fb40.jpg?1603375288

Irving
10-22-2020, 10:03
I'm under the impression that people just assume Trump is doing the same thing with all his businesses already, so who cares if Bidden does it?

JTP80
10-22-2020, 10:22
In case people thought that the Proud Boys were intimidating voters by emails like CNN and MSNBC have been claiming the last couple of days....


https://youtu.be/z6kDF-9UOiw

O2HeN2
10-22-2020, 10:32
Democrats aren't voting democrat because they think it's the better party, they're voting democrat because of the last for years of carefully curated hatred of Trump that's been pushed by the MSM.

At this point I think Biden could literally walk up to anyone wearing a MAGA hat and shoot them in the face and democrats would still vote Biden because the MAGA-wearer "deserved it".

O2

sroz
10-22-2020, 10:34
I'm under the impression that people just assume Trump is doing the same thing with all his businesses already, so who cares if Bidden does it?

I voted for Trump last time and again this time. I don't like him. He is full of himself, lies, etc. A lot of that is the MSM twisting things he says in jest. He does get things done.

As much as I dislike Trump, I dislike all politicians even more. They are everything Trump is except they do not want you to see that side of them. Although they may not lie as often as Trump does, I think their lies are more harmful to the people of this country and many of them have been in politics for decades. For instance, Obama Care did not give me better care at a more affordable price. It was quite the opposite. Higher premiums, higher deductibles and no improvement in care. It is amazing how they all come out with much more wealth than they went in with. For those of you making about the same in salary as a Senator, compare your wealth to theirs.

I want Trump in there to bring to light the corruption within our government. I am hoping for 8 years, then maybe more of we the people will have our eyes opened to what we really have in Washington.

Maybe it takes a thief to catch a thief. I'm ok with that if it helps to clean-up the shithole.

Irving
10-22-2020, 10:48
That's not really where I was going with my post, but it's a good point. Maybe best case scenario is that the country learns that we don't actually have to put up with a much political BS, and in the future we find people who aren't terrible and can do the same job or be as effective.

Eric P
10-22-2020, 12:16
No one cares about this.

Public expectations are that all politicians use thier office for personal/family gain...

sroz
10-22-2020, 12:42
No one cares about this.

Public expectations are that all politicians use thier office for personal/family gain...

Wrong...

You can say the majority do not care, but there are obviously some who do. I am one of them. I know most do it for personal gain, hence why I dislike politicians. But I do care.

We'll likely never fix it, but sure would like to see them get rattled a bit.

roberth
10-22-2020, 12:50
No one cares about this.

Public expectations are that all politicians use thier office for personal/family gain...

They should care, this is just more evidence of the massive Chinese Communist Party influence in America.

Does anyone remember the "Cultural Revolution"? The ChiComs murdered MILLIONS of people that were a "threat" to communism, Stalin, Castro, et al did the same things.

That means rounding people like me up and either killing me outright, waiting a while before I get murdered, or forced labor until I drop dead.

Great-Kazoo
10-22-2020, 14:14
Not sure why everyone's concerned about biden winning? Come mid march, if that. We'll experience a never before scene that will leave people wondering what happened.

That is when the D's invoke the 25th amendment, when biden will graciously step aside. Seating Harris as the First female person of color as President. No bells, whistles, congressional hearings. Just a simple use of the Constitution and BAM! All those years of performing oral sex finally pays off.

roberth
10-22-2020, 14:28
Not sure why everyone's concerned about biden winning? Come mid march, if that. We'll experience a never before scene that will leave people wondering what happened.

That is when the D's invoke the 25th amendment, when biden will graciously step aside. Seating Harris as the First female person of color as President. No bells, whistles, congressional hearings. Just a simple use of the Constitution and BAM! All those years of performing oral sex finally pays off.

True.

The (D) are actually voting for Burn Loot Murder Kamala.

RblDiver
10-22-2020, 15:02
This should be interesting, the guy is reportedly going to be Trump's guest at tonight's debate.

FoxtArt
10-22-2020, 15:19
Democrats aren't voting democrat because they think it's the better party, they're voting democrat because of the last for years of carefully curated hatred of Trump that's been pushed by the MSM.

At this point I think Biden could literally walk up to anyone wearing a MAGA hat and shoot them in the face and democrats would still vote Biden because the MAGA-wearer "deserved it".

O2

The converse is also true. (No matter what Trump does, his supporters will not waiver). Anti gun on anything? Doesn't matter. Declare you're entitled to a third term? *cheer*. Shoot a democrat? He deserved it.

Both sides are this divisive. In part, the cause is accidental, curated by the dawn of AI intended to sell more advertising online. And in small part, it is curated by foreign governments that want us to have a civil war.

FoxtArt
10-22-2020, 15:23
I want Trump in there to bring to light the corruption within our government. I am hoping for 8 years, then maybe more of we the people will have our eyes opened to what we really have in Washington.

Maybe it takes a thief to catch a thief. I'm ok with that if it helps to clean-up the shithole.

What has Trump done to clean up corruption within our government in the last 4 years, except for "piss off a liberal".

True fact: Any viable presidential candidate in the US is already incredibly laden with corruption. Sure, Trump sold a campaign promise, but like any other politician, it's not deliverable. He's spent a lifetime living in Trump's best interest. He's greased people left and right his entire life, donated to hillary, and he's used his position to make money too. So while "cleaning the swamp" is a buzzword, we're four years in, and it still smells like a swamp to me.

I voted from Trump for one reason only, btw. SCOTUS. If ACB is appointed before November, I may not vote for either this time. Outside of judicial appointments, the damage is too great to our nation either way.

BushMasterBoy
10-22-2020, 15:51
Borat 2

sroz
10-22-2020, 16:04
What has Trump done to clean up corruption within our government in the last 4 years, except for "piss off a liberal".

- I would say he has pissed off more than one liberal. Although it cannot definitively be proven, I seriously doubt Hillary's email scandal would have seen the light of day had her opponent been a traditional GOP candidate. Her scrubbing of the over 30,000 emails. Not once did they deny the content of the uncovered emails. There is much more wrt her holding a TS clearance which is required training. She had a responsibility to protect classified info regardless of whether it originated from her. Recipients also have a responsibility.
- The fact that the Obama administration was spying on his campaign.
- Corruption within the FBI (Comey, Strzok, Page, et al)
- We now have the Bidens

I believe it is because of Trump that these things have come to light. Surely you don't believe it can be easily cleaned up. If so, please detail how that would happen. Now that it is out there for all to see, it is up to us to demand it. Again, much easier said than done. I hope you did not think he would get into office, wave a magic wand and make it all go away. Again, I think little if any of this would have come out without Trump as president.

True fact: Any viable presidential candidate in the US is already incredibly laden with corruption. Sure, Trump sold a campaign promise, but like any other politician, it's not deliverable. He's spent a lifetime living in Trump's best interest. He's greased people left and right his entire life, donated to hillary, and he's used his position to make money too. So while "cleaning the swamp" is a buzzword, we're four years in, and it still smells like a swamp to me.

You're right. It still smells like a swamp, but we now more clearly see the make-up of the swamp. As for myself, I want to see more.

I voted from Trump for one reason only, btw. SCOTUS. If ACB is appointed before November, I may not vote for either this time. Outside of judicial appointments, the damage is too great to our nation either way.

Agree. My primary reason for voting for him the first time was SCOTUS. He has shined a light on much more corruption than I ever expected to see. Now that he has, I want to see more. If Biden wins (which btw I fully expect) everything I highlighted above will be swept under the rug and we will be right back where we were 4 years ago.

Just my reasons for going with him again.

clodhopper
10-22-2020, 17:51
Remember the "anybody but Hillary" movement in 2016? It is what got Trump in. We are now seeing the reverse, "anybody but Trump". The problem I see is in trying to do the moral high-ground move, it will do nothing but roll out the carpet for the dems and the madness they are currently bringing. It doesn't matter much that I dislike Trump as a person. His accomplishments during his first term were pretty good, certainly better than if Hillary had won. Hold my nose? Maybe you can look at it like that. More like, I could care less what Trump is/does/brings, whatever it is will be better than the what Biden is promising.

And keep in mind, Trump is the only one really talking policy. Aside from promising to raise taxes, Biden's policies are all platitudes and nothing more than "I have a plan and it is really good". If you are unwilling to tell me what the plan is,.... it must really suck and you don't want me to know what it is. Too many people have fallen into the vote on emotion and that will be the downfall of the country. This decade or in a few, who knows. Trump only slowed things a bit. But I plan to dig my heels in for as long as I possibly can.

ray1970
10-22-2020, 17:55
Man.... where?s Ross Perot when you need him?

MrPrena
10-22-2020, 18:43
Did anyone voted for Kane West?

ray1970
10-22-2020, 18:47
Did anyone voted for Kane West?

Is that a real choice or a poor attempt at spelling Kanye?

MrPrena
10-22-2020, 19:04
President Trump plans to bring Hunter Biden associate Tony Bobulinski as guest to debate
John Roberts By John Roberts , Brooke Singman | Fox News

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/president-trump-plans-to-bring-hunter-biden-associate-tony-bobulinski-as-guest-to-debate.amp

Gman
10-22-2020, 21:33
I don't see Trump losing this November. It could happen, but I don't think it will.

ETA: Tony Bobulinski was likely concerned about being Epsteined once the laptop and the emails went public.

Ramsker
10-22-2020, 22:24
Man.... where?s Ross Perot when you need him?

We didn't really need him the first time around. That's how we got the Clintons.

Gman
10-22-2020, 22:34
We didn't really need him the first time around. That's how we got the Clintons.
Twice. Bill never won by a majority.

Great-Kazoo
10-22-2020, 23:01
I don't see Trump losing this November. It could happen, but I don't think it will.

ETA: Tony Bobulinski was likely concerned about being Epsteined once the laptop and the emails went public.

Unfortunately, there's too many factors aligned against him. Even if he wins. The D's have so many fall backs on ice. They'll stop at nothing short of actual removal of him from office. To achieve their goal .


Now give trump an overwhelming win, even popular vote wise. The d's will have to resort to Plan B. Which are the portland, seattle antifa brigades. That are ready to march, on what the feel is an unsuspecting populace.

Ramsker
10-22-2020, 23:09
Covid was a game changer. Without it, Trump crushes anyone the dems run. With it, anything can happen because emotion overrules logic for far too many people.

I don't like Trump all that much. But I voted for him in 2016 and this time around because the alternative sucks 150%. Don't have a great feeling about this election. If he wins, Biden won't last 2 years in office before he's completely incapable of serving. He's only going to decline mentally and it's likely to accelerate. Then Harris and the loons take over. Hopefully Trump rallies and wins.

FoxtArt
10-22-2020, 23:20
- I would say he has pissed off more than one liberal. Although it cannot definitively be proven, I seriously doubt Hillary's email scandal would have seen the light of day had her opponent been a traditional GOP candidate. Her scrubbing of the over 30,000 emails. Not once did they deny the content of the uncovered emails. There is much more wrt her holding a TS clearance which is required training. She had a responsibility to protect classified info regardless of whether it originated from her. Recipients also have a responsibility.
- The fact that the Obama administration was spying on his campaign.
- Corruption within the FBI (Comey, Strzok, Page, et al)
- We now have the Bidens


Not to overly nitpick, but each and every single one of those has to do with Trumps campaign / trumps election / trump trying to get reelected, and each and every one of those is entirely about Trump. Or in other words... what's he done that isn't for sake of wiping his own butt, e.g... If he's only attacking corruption when it personally affects him, then he's doing nothing any other politician doesn't also do, and he's yet to actually "clean" anything in four years.

Point 2 is: What has actually come of any of that.

Gman
10-22-2020, 23:39
FoxtArt riding the Biden/Harris election train this election?

crays
10-22-2020, 23:57
I'd chime in, but one ban was enough...

Sent from somewhere

FoxtArt
10-23-2020, 00:18
FoxtArt riding the Biden/Harris election train this election?

Just because someone doesn't worship Trump doesn't mean they pray to the devil. I voted for him for sake of SCOTUS alone in 2016. And asked everyone to do the same, knowing fully who he is.

Gman
10-23-2020, 22:18
Was joking. I guess I didn't get the smilie in there.

I did the same, and will do it again. I've been pleasantly surprised by Trump during the first term. I expect him to press forward with court appointments in his next term, including SCOTUS since a couple of hold-outs may be waiting to see if Trump loses so they can retire.

huntnfishn5280
10-26-2020, 14:52
I think this is why most people vote for Trump:

"If you are a liberal who can’t stand Trump, and cannot possibly fathom why anyone would ever vote for him, let me fill you in.
It’s not that we love Donald Trump so much. It’s that we can’t stand you.
And we will do whatever it takes — even if that means electing a rude, obnoxious, unpredictable, narcissist (your words not ours) to the office of President of the United States — because the thing we find more dangerous to this nation than Donald Trump is YOU.
How is that possible you might ask?
Well, you have done everything in your power to destroy our country.
From tearing down the police, to tearing down our history, to tearing down our borders.
From systematically destroying our schools and brainwashing our kids into believing socialism is the answer to anything (despite being an unmitigated failure everywhere), while demonizing religion and faith, and glorifying abortion, violence, and thug culture.
From calling us racists every time we expect everyone of any skin color to follow our laws equally to gaslighting us about 52 genders, polyamory, grown men in dresses sharing public locker rooms with little girls, and normalize the sexualization of young children, you simultaneously ridicule us for having the audacity to wish someone a “Merry Christmas” or hang a flag on the 4th of July, stand for the national anthem, or (horror of horrors) don a MAGA hat in public.
So much for your “tolerance.”
(See why we think you are just hypocrites??)
We’re also not interested in the fact that you think you can unilaterally decide that 250 years of the right-to-bear-arms against a tyrannical or ineffective government should be abolished because you can’t get the violence in the cities you manage under control. That free-speech should be tossed out the window, and that those who disagree with your opinions are fair game for public harassment or doxing. That spoiled children with nose-rings and tats who still live off their parent’s dime should be allowed to destroy cities and peoples livelihoods without repercussions. That chaos, and lawlessness, and disrespect for authority should be the norm.
This is your agenda. And you wonder why we find you more dangerous than Donald Trump?
Your narrative is a constant drone of oppressor/oppressed race-baiting intended to divide the country in as many ways as you possibly can. You love to sell “victim-hood” to people of color every chance you get because it’s such an easy sell, compared to actually teaching people to stand on their own two feet and take personal responsibility for their own lives and their own communities and their own futures. But you won’t do that, you will never do that, because then you will lose control over people of color. They might actually start thinking for themselves, God forbid!
This is why we will vote for Donald Trump.
Not because he is the most charming character on the block.
Not because he is the most polite politician to have ever graced the oval office.
Not because he is the most palatable choice, or because we love his moral character or because the man never lies, but because we are sick to death of you and all of the destructive crap you are doing to this once beautiful and relatively safe country.
Your ineffective and completely dysfunctional liberal “leadership”(?) has literally destroyed our most beautiful cities, our public education system, and done it’s damnedest to rip faith out of people’s lives.
However bad Donald Trump may be, and he is far from perfect, every day we look at you and feel that no matter what Donald Trump says or does there is no possible way he could be any worse for our country than you people are.
We are sick to death of your stupid, destructive, ignorant, and intolerant behavior and beliefs — parading as “wokeness.” We are beyond sick of your hypocrisy and B.S.
We are fed up with your disrespectful divisiveness and constant unrelenting harping and whining and complaining (while you live in the most privileged nation in the world), while making literally zero contributions of anything positive to our society. Your entire focus is on ripping things down, never ever building anything up. Think about that as there is something fundamentally very wrong in the psychology of people who choose destruction as their primary modus operandi.
When Donald J Trump is reelected, don’t blame us, look in the mirror and blame yourselves.
Because you are the ones that are responsible for the rise of Donald Trump. You are the ones who have created this "monster" that you so despise, by your very actions. By your refusal to respect your fellow Americans, and the things that are important to us.
You have made fun of the “fly-over states,” the people who “cling to their guns and religion,” the middle class factory workers and coal miners and underprivileged rural populations that you dismissively call “yahoos” and “deplorables.” You have mocked our faith and our religion. You have mocked our values and our patriotism. You have trampled our flag and insulted our veterans and treated our first responders with contempt and hatred.
You have made environmentalism your religion, while trashing every city you have taken responsibility for. You scream from the rooftops about “global warming” and a “green new deal” while allowing tens of thousands of homeless people to cover your streets in literal sh!t and garbage and needles and plastic waste without doing a single thing to help them or solve the environmental crisis your failed social policies are creating. But we’re supposed to put YOU in charge of the environment while gutting our entire economy to institute this plan when you can’t even clean up a single city??
You complain — endlessly — yet have failed to solve a single social problem anywhere. In fact, all you have done is create more of them.
We’ve had enough. We are tired of quietly sitting by and being the “silent” majority. So don’t be surprised when the day comes when we finally respond. And trust me it’s coming, sooner than you might think. And also trust me when I say it won’t be pretty. Get ready.
When Donald Trump is reelected it will be because you and your “comrades” have chosen to trash the police, harass law-abiding citizens, and go on rampages destroying public property that we have all paid for and you have zero respect for.
When Donald Trump is reelected it will be because we are sick of your complete and utter nonsense and destruction. How does it feel to know that half of this country finds you FAR more despicable than Donald J. Trump, the man you consider to be the anti-Christ?
Let that sink in.
We consider you to be more despicable, more dangerous, more stupid, and more narcissistic than Donald Trump. Maybe allow yourself a few seconds of self-reflection to let that sink in. This election isn’t about Donald Trump vs. Joe Biden.
This is about Donald Trump vs YOU.
So if on the morning of November 4 (or more likely January 19, by the time the Supreme Court will weigh in on the mail-in ballot fiasco that we are headed towards), and Donald J. Trump is reelected?
The only people you have to blame is the left-wing media drones and yourselves.
You did this.
Yep you.
Authored by Joanne Giordano
I will add that Trump puts America and Americans first. He will preserve our way of life, our Constitution and make us stronger than ever before.

GilpinGuy
10-26-2020, 22:38
^^^^That pretty much sums it up.

Aloha_Shooter
10-26-2020, 23:04
The only things that surprise me about the hard drive are 1) that people are surprised at this level of corruption at Biden, Inc. and 2) that Joe Biden had the mental acuity to put together an organization and payoffs worthy of Vincent "The Chin" Gigante. I'm not even surprised that Hunter was dumb enough to record it all.

roberth
10-27-2020, 06:26
Biden is running for some of the same reasons HRC ran.

1. Keep the illicit funds rolling in
2. Keep the corruption cover-up running so they stay out of prison

HRC and the Bidens, along with many other democrats and republicans have sold this country out in order to line their own pockets.

Foreign aid is a kickback scheme, the Ukrainian aid illustrates it well.

Bailey Guns
10-28-2020, 09:54
I went to CNN to see how they were spinning the Bobulinski story. Surprisingly, they aren't spinning it at all. It just doesn't exist on CNN. I guess that in itself is spin and pretty much all you need to know about their credibility:

From about 10 mins ago:

https://i.imgur.com/jJ7A7vV.jpg




I know, I know... I'm just one of those "Trump Worshippers".

JTP80
10-28-2020, 11:02
Though the comments I see from liberals and moderates on social media about why many of them don't care about this is that there are millions of Americans that can't afford food, rent and utilities because their decent jobs went away. And in order to make any money when unemployment ran out, they had to take lower paying jobs and are dependent on food banks and charities for assistance. They just don't see that political corruption is more important than helping the people, which the media has done well in spinning all the blame to Trump.

hollohas
10-28-2020, 11:05
I went to CNN to see how they were spinning the Bobulinski story. Surprisingly, they aren't spinning it at all. It just doesn't exist on CNN. I guess that in itself is spin and pretty much all you need to know about their credibility:

From about 10 mins ago:

https://i.imgur.com/jJ7A7vV.jpg




I know, I know... I'm just one of those "Trump Worshippers".W.O.W.

roberth
10-28-2020, 11:14
They're ignoring this YUGE story.

This article helps explain the WHY.

https://amgreatness.com/2020/10/27/why-nothing-biden-says-or-does-matters-to-democrats/


Presidential candidate Joe Biden has catastrophic problems that would hobble any candidate in ordinary times. His mental capacity is failing so badly that he appears senile and lost in many of his public appearances. He is too mentally and physically tired to campaign. He has been exposed for raking in multimillion-dollar payoffs from China, Ukraine, and Russia when serving as vice president, using his son Hunter to launder the bribes. This is the worst level of corruption, and with the country?s worst enemies, ever seen in America.

None of it matters to his voters. But there?s more.

Bailey Guns
10-28-2020, 14:31
Good article. Can't find much, if anything, that I can argue with in it.

StagLefty
10-29-2020, 08:26
Crickets from the MSM on this story or any dirt on Joe. The hate for trump is alive and well !!!!

BPTactical
10-29-2020, 10:42
I'll just leave this here...


https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-hunter-biden-documents-vanish-los-angeles

00tec
10-29-2020, 10:48
I'll just leave this here...


https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-hunter-biden-documents-vanish-los-angeles
Who doesn't have redundant copies of EVERYTHING?

JTP80
10-29-2020, 11:44
I'll just leave this here...


https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-hunter-biden-documents-vanish-los-angeles

https://www.thewrap.com/ups-tucker-carlson-biden/

Wonder if everything is still there. If it was something like that, I'd think there would be copies and that you'd spring for a trusted courier to take a red eye flight and deliver.

BPTactical
10-29-2020, 11:53
https://www.thewrap.com/ups-tucker-carlson-biden/

Wonder if everything is still there. If it was something like that, I'd think there would be copies and that you'd spring for a trusted courier to take a red eye flight and deliver.

But we must remember you just wipe a server with a Clorox wipe and it is clean too......

roberth
10-29-2020, 12:10
https://issuesinsights.com/2020/10/28/media-titans-are-misleading-the-public-about-the-biden-scandal/


After big tech companies suppressed a New York Post article exposing written evidence that Joe Biden ?spent some time together? with a top executive of a corrupt Ukrainian energy firm that was enriching his son, media titans are misleading the public about the central facts of this explosive affair.

Twitter, for a prime example, pinned a post to the top of its home page claiming that Biden ?played no role in pressuring Ukraine officials into firing the prosecutor? at the core of this case.

That is flatly disproven by the words of Biden himself, who stated on video that he told Ukraine?s president and its prime minister that he would withhold $1 billion in U.S. aid from their nation unless they removed the prosecutor. ?If the prosecutor is not fired,? warned Biden, ?you?re not getting the money.? Biden then added, ?Well, son of a bitch, he got fired.?

This article presents a timeline of events all the way to the recent "Hunter's laptop".

roberth
10-29-2020, 16:47
https://westernrifleshooters.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/EjJG2kOXsAAINbi-1024x614.jpeg

crays
10-29-2020, 17:30
https://www.thewrap.com/ups-tucker-carlson-biden/

Wonder if everything is still there. If it was something like that, I'd think there would be copies and that you'd spring for a trusted courier to take a red eye flight and deliver.This was my first take on this.

Critical documents on the opposite coast, and you (major national news network) can't afford to have them hand-delivered by a trusted associate, so you use the ever timely and dependable Big Brown, and possibly have no duplicates/copies?

Carlson loses points on this one.

Sent from somewhere

brutal
10-29-2020, 20:24
The "documents" were copies on a flash drive.

Turned up...

FoxtArt
10-29-2020, 20:39
The "documents" were copies on a flash drive.

Turned up...

If that's true that would be even more stupid in the context. Why not... upload them to a cloud...

And I'm not following the news, do you mean they found the flash drive?

brutal
10-29-2020, 23:15
If that's true that would be even more stupid in the context. Why not... upload them to a cloud...

And I'm not following the news, do you mean they found the flash drive?

I DVR and watch Tucker almost every night so I wasn't going by 2nd or 3rd hand reports.

UPS found the flash drive and returned it to Tucker @ Fox News. No solid explanation but the current story was the mailer was possibly damaged by machine handling (or an employee) and they found the drive in a supervisors office, claiming it had been turned in.

I can't tell you why or what they were thinking, or the reasons for mailing "documents," but it sounded like a pretty big collection. I don't think most "news" people are all that tech savvy to begin with.

Justin
10-30-2020, 08:02
As a general rule, news people are neither tech-savvy, or all that smart, though I can see them not trusting a cloud service provider for pretty obvious security reasons.

Evidently, though, Tucker did have copies of all of the files made before the drive was packed up and sent.

Frankly, they better do a good job of scanning that thumb drive once it gets to it's destination.

Great-Kazoo
10-30-2020, 08:41
As a general rule, news people are neither tech-savvy, or all that smart, though I can see them not trusting a cloud service provider for pretty obvious security reasons.

Evidently, though, Tucker did have copies of all of the files made before the drive was packed up and sent.

Frankly, they better do a good job of scanning that thumb drive once it gets to it's destination.

They would have done better by mass emailing every news agency in the world, especially BBC and Al Jezerra. Along with anyone on the TC fan following list.

In todays climate of being the FIRST TO REPORT THE NEWS! Shirley there's some media with at least an ounce of honesty, somewhere. Or need to be the one who got the coverage it deserves.

Gman
10-30-2020, 16:21
DOJ investigating Hunter Biden over money-laundering allegations (https://komonews.com/news/nation-world/witness-in-fbi-probe-of-hunter-biden-says-agents-focused-on-ukraine-dealings)


WASHINGTON (SBG) — A witness interviewed by the FBI as part of a year-long criminal investigation into the overseas business dealings of Hunter Biden said this week that the bureau's agents focused their questions, in part, on the work that the son of the Democratic presidential nominee, former Vice President Joe Biden, performed for a Ukrainian company while his father was handling Ukraine policy for the Obama administration.

In an exclusive interview with Sinclair on Thursday, Tony Bobulinski, a former business partner of Hunter Biden, said he was interviewed for some five hours, by up to six FBI agents at a time, at a bureau office in Washington on October 23. The federal agents, Bobulinski said, listed him as a "material witness" in an ongoing investigation, told him they will require additional questioning, and extracted the data from three cell phones that he made available.

Bobulinski has said the devices contain emails, corporate documents, WhatsApp chats and other digital evidence of his tenure as an executive at SinoHawk, a venture co-founded by Hunter Biden to do business with the Chinese energy giant, CEFC. But Bobulinski's account of his FBI interview suggests the bureau is also pursuing investigative leads that extend beyond sinoHawk's China venture to include Hunter Biden's work in Ukraine.

"I can assure you that the agents in that room, when we walked through the text messages where Hunter Biden outlines he's on the back of Mykola the founder of Burisma's yacht, in Monaco, that they were at full attention, taking extensive notes and asked multiple questions," Bobulinski told Sinclair in a satellite interview from Los Angeles.

Mykola Zlochevsky is the founder of the Ukrainian energy firm Burisma, identified in a recent Senate Homeland Security Committee report entitled "Hunter Biden, Burisma, and Corruption," as a natural gas company that paid the younger Biden approximately $83,000 a month to sit on its board while the elder Biden oversaw U.S. foreign policy toward Ukraine. The impeachment proceedings against President Trump in late 2019 and early this year focused on his requests that the Ukrainian government announce investigations in Hunter Biden's work for Burisma.

Separately, Sinclair confirmed this week from an official at the Department of Justice that the FBI in 2019 opened a criminal investigation of Hunter Biden and his associates, focused on money-laundering allegations, that remains open and active.

OtterbatHellcat
10-31-2020, 02:23
Speaking of ventriloquists, Biden actually looks like Dunhams "Walter" puppet.

StagLefty
10-31-2020, 07:36
Speaking of ventriloquists, Biden actually looks like Dunhams "Walter" puppet.

mmm I thought it was Walter [Sarcasm2]

Gman
10-31-2020, 11:00
...and then he started speaking clearly, so I knew it couldn't be Biden.