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DenverGP
10-23-2020, 23:20
Jump to about 3 minutes then wait for the exciting part...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R5cLghSWGQ
Story claims the driver put the jeep into park and got out, with his GF and 2 dogs still in the jeep, to help another vehicle on the trail, and the jeep started rolling...
GF and dogs were ejected from the jeep. GF is in serious but stable condition, and dogs were ok.
OtterbatHellcat
10-23-2020, 23:31
Holy crap.
That's been going around. A few months ago a YouTuber was here doing the trail in the afternoon and it started raining and basketball sized rocks were raining down the mountain. Then there was a big land slide and everyone got trapped on the trail for 3 hours until the road crew could show up with a front end loader.
I hope he had full coverage.
BPTactical
10-24-2020, 07:06
I hope he had full coverage.
I’m sure it was fully covered.
With damage.
Some Jeep to be sure.......some of it is over here........some of it is over there....
OctopusHighball
10-24-2020, 07:50
There's also a video making the rounds of the crew doing maintenance this spring in a bull dozer. Watching that thing slide sideways on is metal tracks at the steps made me shiver.
The driver initially posted on FB looking for the two dogs that got ejected. They found the first dog that day, but took them a couple days to find the other one. I heard that the driver stopped the Jeep, set the parking brake and jumped out to help a fellow jeeper negotiate a switchback.
I have a JK, and the handbrakes have ALWAYS been complete crap on mine. Even after new brakes, it just doesn't hold. If I need my Jeep to not move, it'll be hand brake and left in first with engine dead.
This video is pretty much my worst nightmare.
I bet he put it in park, and set the brake, just like every ND on a firearm magically happened when the round teleported in from a 4th dimension because they know they unloaded it and set the safety.
Prayers for the GF.
There is a video from about 15 years ago of another Wrangler rolling over the edge. This guy's got very lucky though because that rig rolled in a curve (imagine rolling a parking cone) and stopped facing straight up hill after only about 2 rotations.
battlemidget
10-24-2020, 08:45
I bet it was an automatic, 4lo generates alot of torque.
I’ve seen parking brakes fail while a manual transmission is in neutral... that’s my suspicion.
Zundfolge
10-24-2020, 09:52
... and dogs were ok.
Thank God (lets be honest, this is what most people care about :p )
I hope he had full coverage.
This is when people find out that their "comprehensive" auto policy doesn't cover "off road use".
Comprehensive means something else with respect to insurance policies, and the "comp" part does not cover this kind of accident. I've covered off-roading accidents and had my own covered as well. I'm sure some carriers have policy exclusions for off road stuff.
Thank God (lets be honest, this is what most people care about :p )
This is when people find out that their "comprehensive" auto policy doesn't cover "off road use".
These are forrest service and county roads and covered by insurance. Off road use is prohibited in many areas across the state.
I’ve seen parking brakes fail while a manual transmission is in neutral... that’s my suspicion.
If I ever get out of mine, I turn it off, place in gear and parking brake engaged. And steer it uphill if it happens to roll.
Then before getting out, get off the brake pedal to make sure parking brake us engaged.
funkymonkey1111
10-24-2020, 13:07
Thank God (lets be honest, this is what most people care about :p )
This is when people find out that their "comprehensive" auto policy doesn't cover "off road use".
those dogs may not trust jeep riding after this.
JohnnyDrama
10-24-2020, 13:37
If I ever get out of mine, I turn it off, place in gear and parking brake engaged. And steer it uphill if it happens to roll.
Then before getting out, get off the brake pedal to make sure parking brake us engaged.
Yep! The mountain doesn't care what safety features or how badass you vehicle is.
WHANG! That's the word that happens when you say WHOA! and DANG! at the same time. When I saw the title I suspected Black Bear Pass was involved. That's an incredible road and some incredible mountains. I was surprised when it happened where it did. It seems a lot of "accidents" occur after the "scary" part when people get complacent. I wish everybody a full and speedy recovery.
If I ever get out of mine, I turn it off, place in gear and parking brake engaged. And steer it uphill if it happens to roll.
Then before getting out, get off the brake pedal to make sure parking brake us engaged.
The roll over from a few years ago happened because the guy was scared of the edge, so he went too far away from the drop off. His driver tires climbed the inside edge and he rolled over anyway. Seems like right in the middle is the safest bet on a pass like that.
DireWolf
10-24-2020, 14:28
About 15 yrs ago, I came pretty damn close to rolling off one of the switchbacks heading up to SantaFe Peak....
Had been up many times previously, but that time the trail/road started disintegrating underneath me. Trying to get back on solid ground made it worse, and was just getting ready to bail as it started to tip (only occupant, and no doors on)...
Fortunately, someone else (driver from other vehicle) jumped on my front bumper and provided enough weight to counterbalance and keep it from going over. Recovery involved tow-straps to vehicles in front and behind, and getting "yanked" back to stable ground...(then preemptively did the same thing to higher jeep to help traverse the bad spot coming down)...
newracer
10-24-2020, 16:42
It was a manual transmission. The driver said he put it in neutral and set the parking brake.
https://dur-duweb.newscyclecloud.com/storyimage/DU/20201011/NEWS01/201019955/EP/1/1/EP-201019955.jpg?ts=1602443182&imageversion=1by1
https://www.kiro7.com/resizer/uHNy7rAGAZkRPaHMXvzuYWwANZA=/1200x675/d1hfln2sfez66z.cloudfront.net/10-24-2020/t_8ea9ac3fb9f94c40a7c8624911fa60c0_name_Woman_thro wn_from_Jeep_on_Colorado_mountain_trail_Poster.jpg
newracer
10-24-2020, 16:45
The roll over from a few years ago happened because the guy was scared of the edge, so he went too far away from the drop off. His driver tires climbed the inside edge and he rolled over anyway. Seems like right in the middle is the safest bet on a pass like that.
https://youtu.be/UxcYOxG0fDY
Bailey Guns
10-24-2020, 18:15
"Are you OK?"
"No...I just crapped my pants. Twice..."
So much win in this thread.
You guys and your comments I mean. Not so much the off road prowess of the Jeep owners.
BPTactical
10-24-2020, 20:18
"Are you OK?"
"No...I just crapped my pants. Twice..."
“Thrice”
The roll over from a few years ago happened because the guy was scared of the edge, so he went too far away from the drop off. His driver tires climbed the inside edge and he rolled over anyway. Seems like right in the middle is the safest bet on a pass like that.
Yes, I was there the day after with a group and he easily had 5 ft from the right side to the edge. His prints were still visible.
I googled Black Bear pass. Looks gnarly, lots of Youtube videos out there.
Kinda tempting.....
It was a manual transmission. The driver said he put it in neutral and set the parking brake.
https://dur-duweb.newscyclecloud.com/storyimage/DU/20201011/NEWS01/201019955/EP/1/1/EP-201019955.jpg?ts=1602443182&imageversion=1by1
https://www.kiro7.com/resizer/uHNy7rAGAZkRPaHMXvzuYWwANZA=/1200x675/d1hfln2sfez66z.cloudfront.net/10-24-2020/t_8ea9ac3fb9f94c40a7c8624911fa60c0_name_Woman_thro wn_from_Jeep_on_Colorado_mountain_trail_Poster.jpg
That'll buff right out.
I wonder how come nothing exciting ever comes out of Red Cone.
I wonder how come nothing exciting ever comes out of Red Cone.
Red cone has been well maintained and wide. I would also say a few of the obstacles at the beginning deter less experienced drivers.
The switchbacks on the 285 side of Webster Pass are far more dangerous and narrower than red cone.
I only ever did the ascent side of Red Cone, never the descent.
I only ever did the ascent side of Red Cone, never the descent.
Wuss.
We did a night run in October and once we broke above tree line there was a foot of fresh snow on top. We decided that the descent in fresh powder, and in the dark probably wasn't wise.
.455_Hunter
10-25-2020, 13:28
We did a night run in October and once we broke above tree line there was a foot of fresh snow on top. We decided that the descent in fresh powder, and in the dark probably wasn't wise.
I couldn't agree more!
buffalobo
10-25-2020, 15:36
We did a night run in October and once we broke above tree line there was a foot of fresh snow on top. We decided that the descent in fresh powder, and in the dark probably wasn't wise.If you ascended but did not descend?
If you ascended but did not descend?
Someday, we will get to see Irving again, in that happy place, *sniff*, but here today, we are here to cherish his memory, it's what Irving would have wanted *sniff*
If you ascended but did not descend?
The descent off the back is a one-way. We just went back down the way we came in and didn't have to worry about cross traffic since it was night.
buffalobo
10-25-2020, 17:27
Figured as much but just had to ask.
henpecked
10-26-2020, 07:53
It was a manual transmission. The driver said he put it in neutral and set the parking brake.
https://dur-duweb.newscyclecloud.com/storyimage/DU/20201011/NEWS01/201019955/EP/1/1/EP-201019955.jpg?ts=1602443182&imageversion=1by1
https://www.kiro7.com/resizer/uHNy7rAGAZkRPaHMXvzuYWwANZA=/1200x675/d1hfln2sfez66z.cloudfront.net/10-24-2020/t_8ea9ac3fb9f94c40a7c8624911fa60c0_name_Woman_thro wn_from_Jeep_on_Colorado_mountain_trail_Poster.jpg
Good thing he had bilstien shocks on it
We did a night run in October and once we broke above tree line there was a foot of fresh snow on top. We decided that the descent in fresh powder, and in the dark probably wasn't wise.
Not long after Red Cone opened one year, I went up with a group. Ahead of us was another group of three vehicles. Once they cleared the peak, we went up and hung out. We noticed they went only part way down the descent and stopped. After realizing they weren't going anywhere, we sent down a vehicle to find out what was going on, and if our group could get past them. Turns out they were there to rescue a vehicle which slid off the trail the previous fall/winter/year, and couldn't be rescued before snow closed down the trail. It slid off the trail and down the hill on the north side where it wasn't visible from the peak. They were successful; they had to repair a tie rod end (or something similar), and brought a fresh battery to install. It fired up and was driven back onto the trail and out.
.455_Hunter
10-26-2020, 11:20
Not long after Red Cone opened one year, I went up with a group. Ahead of us was another group of three vehicles. Once they cleared the peak, we went up and hung out. We noticed they went only part way down the descent and stopped. After realizing they weren't going anywhere, we sent down a vehicle to find out what was going on, and if our group could get past them. Turns out they were there to rescue a vehicle which slid off the trail the previous fall/winter/year, and couldn't be rescued before snow closed down the trail. It slid off the trail and down the hill on the north side where it wasn't visible from the peak. They were successful; they had to repair a tie rod end (or something similar), and brought a fresh battery to install. It fired up and was driven back onto the trail and out.
That reminds me of my experience in summer 1996 or 1997 hiking in behind the Carnage Canyon area in Lefthand Canyon. I was walking along when I heard revving motor noises and "beep, beep, beep...". To my surprise, around the corner appears a flat bed wrecker backing-up the road. I follow him for a bit when he stops next to a wide spot. In the ravine below laid a 1995 Honda Passport that had barrel-rolled down the hill. Turns out the owner, earlier in the year, had driven back in there when things were a bit "soft". He pulled into the wide spot and parked, getting out of the vehicle to explore. While gone, his outside wheels collapsed the dirt beneath them and pitched the Passport down the hill. It wasn't a ball of mush like the JK shown above, but every body panel was deformed and windows busted. Even being that new, the tow truck operator said the insurance company had totaled it, and they were extracting it per Forest Service orders.
The most shocking thing was that it DID NOT have any bullet holes yet...
I got a laugh once at a group of teenagers in a very brand new looking Wrangler stalled out in the middle of a deep creek with water running up over the hood.
I imagine mom and dad were going to be a little upset with the kids for sucking enough water into the engine to kill it.
I saw a kind gentleman in a Tacoma who was going to winch them to dry land but I don?t know how they were going to get it towed back to civilization.
Never seen a vehicle tumbling down the side of a mountain though. I heard it?s more common than you would think up around Silverton and Ouray.
The very first trail I ever drove was Middle St Vraine and one of my buddies (an occasional poster on here) ran through the water on top fast enough to suck it into the intake and grenade the motor. We had to tow him out and he hitched a ride with me all the way down to Castle Rock.
GilpinGuy
10-26-2020, 22:44
I only ever did the ascent side of Red Cone, never the descent.
The decent on Red Cone was one of the scariest I've done. So bad ass.
Holger Danske
09-26-2021, 19:32
A woman and her dog injured in a rollover on Black Bear Pass today. I think it was a Jeep Cherokee....
https://www.kktv.com/2021/09/26/woman-dog-seriously-injured-after-rolling-off-black-bear-pass/
.455_Hunter
09-26-2021, 19:57
A woman and her dog injured in a rollover on Black Bear Pass today. I think it was a Jeep Cherokee....
https://www.kktv.com/2021/09/26/woman-dog-seriously-injured-after-rolling-off-black-bear-pass/
We are definitely in an era where someone can watch a few Youtube videos from "influencers", and think themselves ready for any challenge. I had 10 years of off-road driving before even contemplating the Ouray/Telluride passes, plus a proper vehicle- NOT a cute ute.
I wish my Trooper had that many air bags. It's just got the two driver side ones that I know about.
I wish my Trooper had that many air bags. It's just got the two driver side ones that I know about.
Maybe it has some you don?t know about. You should roll it down a mountain and check.
It's bound to happen sooner or later. Just hope my family isn't there.
What are you doing Saturday?
OctopusHighball
09-26-2021, 21:42
It was a Bronco Sport. They started going up the wrong way, tried to turn around, got too tippy and down it went, ejecting the driver, the dog and the engine!
.455_Hunter
09-26-2021, 21:54
It was a Bronco Sport.
You're right! I though it looked like a newish Cherokee too, but its a brand new Bronco.
No vehicle makes up for driver skill and experience.
[Edit to add from an online source]: The Bronco Sport rides on the same platform that underpins the compact Escape crossover, and every model has all-wheel drive.
So yes, still a cute ute. I am getting the new Bronco models confused.
Claims to have not seen the very visible do not enter one way signs. Idiots deserve the harm that come thier way..
Pretty harsh. Article says she was turning around.
Delfuego
09-28-2021, 08:24
We are definitely in an era where someone can watch a few Youtube videos from "influencers", and think themselves ready for any challenge.
#adventurelife meets #gravitydoesntcare
Lots more people die at the grand canyon now every year; gotta get that sweet selfie. I think we are just a lot dumber than we used to be...
I think we've always been dumb, it's just our products were not retard proof so people more often died from their stupidity. You used to hear about it from the old timers too....
."That was Frank, he had a really long pony tail, but he died when he was leaning over a running combine blade, his last words as he turned his head was "hey ghzlpfffff". I found his face in that wheat field over thar."
"That was Charlie, he tried to get grandma's old caddy up the pass near bear's crack, and when he got high centered on the bears dick, he musta' reved it hard cause we saw it come unlodged and that fucker got thrown clean through the winder and probably fell five hunnerd feet. Might have lived too if it wernt for him landing on top of a bear cub."
I miss the old timers... the ones that lived.
Pretty harsh. Article says she was turning around.
Read the sherifs post. Plenty on room to turn around at the sign. Hell it is a parking lot for thee waterfall and powerhouse
She was a dumbfvck and ignored thee clear signage that says to not enter a d the trail is one way down.
Not harsh at all when these dumbfvcks give even more reason to close trails.
https://www.autoblog.com/2021/09/28/colorado-bronco-sport-rollover/
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