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Martinjmpr
10-29-2020, 13:28
Yes, I know the standard answer would be "have a gunsmith check it out" but I'm curious about the Conventional Wisdom here.

My father passed away in March and when he died I inherited some of his old guns. One of them is a Colt M1903 or 1908 pocket hammerless in .380 cal.*

Per the SN, the gun was made some time around 1928. According to dad, the gun was purchased by his father some time in the late 20's or early 30's. It was used at least once to thwart an attempted robbery at a gas station when my grandfather, grandmother and uncle were traveling somewhere during the depression. The gun has been in my family for as long as I can remember. I know it has been fired, but my guess is that it's been at least 20 years (and possibly as long as 40 years) since it was fired.

So other than a thorough cleaning and visual inspection for excessive wear, cracks, broken springs, etc, is there any reason to be concerned about shooting this gun with modern ammo? As near as I can tell this gun has sat in a cabinet/drawer/safe for most of the last 60 years at least. There's no rust, no excessive wear and from the looks of it, at least, it likely hasn't been fired all that much (which would make sense for a gun like this.) I'd estimate it even has 70% or more of its original finish, original grips, etc. It has one magazine, not sure if it ever had more.

So would you shoot it?

* NOTE: The Intertoobz seem all over the place with regard to the moniker. The M1903 was the Colt Hammerless pocket pistol in .32 ACP caliber. The .380 version (which is what this is) was introduced in 1908 and for that reason it is often referred to as the Colt M1908. However, as near as I can tell, Colt never referred to this as anything other than the Model 1903 because they had a completely different gun that bore the 1908 name, that was the Colt model 1908 Vest Pocket in .25ACP/6.35mm caliber : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Model_1908_Vest_Pocket

For simplicity's sake, I just refer to it as a Colt Model 1903.

.455_Hunter
10-29-2020, 13:45
Yes- If it isn't a basket case, it would shoot it without hesitation following a tear down, lube and functions check.

I would probably only shoot one round first and see if it fires properly, then two rounds in case of doubling or uncontrolled full-auto. If it shoots 2+1 fine, then I would go for a whole mag.

I generally limit my carry guns to post-1900, so my perspective may be skewed.

20X11
10-29-2020, 13:51
Yes- If it isn't a basket case, it would shoot it without hesitation following a tear down, lube and functions check.

I would probably only shoot one round first and see if it fires properly, then two rounds in case of doubling or uncontrolled full-auto. If it shoots 2+1 fine, then I would go for a whole mag.

I generally limit my carry guns to post-1900, so my perspective may be skewed.

^^^ This

sroz
10-29-2020, 14:15
Yes- If it isn't a basket case, it would shoot it without hesitation following a tear down, lube and functions check.

I would probably only shoot one round first and see if it fires properly, then two rounds in case of doubling or uncontrolled full-auto. If it shoots 2+1 fine, then I would go for a whole mag.

I generally limit my carry guns to post-1900, so my perspective may be skewed.

Agree with above

beast556
10-29-2020, 17:17
If it were myine I would shoot it after a good cleaning and inspection to make sure nothing is broke or out of place.

ray1970
10-29-2020, 19:23
It?ll be fine. It?s not like it was originally designed for black powder loads or something.

Personally, I would avoid any sort of +P ammunition but I?m cautious like that. Heck, do they even make +P 380?

Great-Kazoo
10-29-2020, 22:15
It?ll be fine. It?s not like it was originally designed for black powder loads or something.

Personally, I would avoid any sort of +P ammunition but I?m cautious like that. Heck, do they even make +P 380?

They do, it's called 9mm ;)

sgtDoc
10-30-2020, 07:42
i shoot older guns alot. a common sense look-over and cleaning should let you know if there are issues, but some things cannot be seen with the naked eye.
if i'm firing a new one for the first time, i'll take some precautions.
also, i'm that guy people call when they get lead in themselves, so take my advice with a grain of salt if you are not any good at sewing yourself up.

SideShow Bob
10-31-2020, 17:55
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Bailey Guns
11-01-2020, 05:48
Hell, yes, shoot it. And cherish it.

Mercula
11-04-2020, 20:39
Pics ? Awesome heirloom.

encorehunter
11-05-2020, 06:47
I was shooting my 1877 .38 Smith and Wesson top break with no issues. A good cleaning and correct ammunition and it was fun. Wear glasses just in case.

Martinjmpr
01-22-2021, 11:28
Pics ? Awesome heirloom.

Sorrry, guys, I left you all hanging back in November.

Not so great cell pics but here she is:

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Seems to have a little bit of light pitting. It was in the Panama Canal Zone for probably at least a couple of decades. Then my uncle had it in South Carolina for a few years before he gave it to my dad. As you can see the finish is generally in good shape, the hard rubber grips are intact and there's only a little light holster wear near the muzzle. Function check seems to work fine. Only one mag though at least as far as I know.

I'd honestly have preferred the S&W .38 that dad carried with him in Vietnam (back then soldiers were allowed - in some cases, encouraged, to carry their own handguns into combat, way different from my time) but my brother ended up with that one. Might see if I can work a trade with him.