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eddiememphis
11-15-2020, 21:22
I know a few guys on here don't like the guy.

https://krdo.com/health/coronavirus/covidrecovery/2020/11/13/gun-ammo-sales-remain-strong-in-colorado-springs-during-covid-19-pandemic/

Great-Kazoo
11-15-2020, 21:33
Bernstein said that he is the only gun manufacturer in Colorado, and has a Class 7 license allowing him to specialize in automatic and semiautomatic weapons



And naturally the reporter failed to check the validity of this statement .

here's 1. There are a few others, but i wouldn't give them the time of day. Let alone mention them

https://www.mm-industries.com/about-us/

In 2014, through a collaborative effort, a design for a new type of rifle began to take shape. Relying on the experience obtained through the M10-762™ venture and the founder’s engineering and aerospace manufacturing knowledge, a new rifle design emerged utilizing technologies and materials not previously used in the manufacture of firearms of this type.

tactical_2012
11-15-2020, 23:00
If I remember correctly DangerLee Industries is a Type 7 FFL as well

Great-Kazoo
11-15-2020, 23:04
If I remember correctly DangerLee Industries is a Type 7 FFL as well

as well as a few others. BUT Dragonman, oooohhhh ahhhhhh

He always was an attention whore. At one time actually an interesting guy to talk with. Way before he moved to CO.

Bailey Guns
11-16-2020, 07:37
Who knew a "heavier" barrel makes a gun easier and faster to shoot and makes a "bullet more accurate"?

XJ
11-16-2020, 08:09
He used to be a Sunday morning regular at the Einstein Bagels on Powers & Constitution.

Hoser
11-16-2020, 08:17
Not a Fan of him.

His wife was awesome.

funkymonkey1111
11-16-2020, 09:04
Doesn't Volkmann manufacture guns in colorado?

earplug
11-16-2020, 09:22
Why does the high plains attract crazy people?

Wulf202
11-16-2020, 10:41
Doesn't Volkmann manufacture guns in colorado?

Magpul does too

hollohas
11-16-2020, 13:54
I was curious what makes him think his rifle is so special and especially the claim it's the thickest barrel available. So I watched a YouTube video of him explaining it. I think I got dumber by watching him show his gun.

He said his barrel is .950". By my account that makes it just a teeny tiny bit bigger than a standard bull barrel but just enough so that standard gas blocks won't work I guess. He said his barrel "beats Ruger, Remington and Winchester...all the others on the market." Does Winchester make AR's...oh doesn't matter. His fat barrel makes his gun more accurate.

Oh, and he's using a chrome BCG. Wow!!! Best money can buy. (As he points to the bolt face and says look, there's the firing pin, which obviously can't be seen). Look how nice it slides in there!

Then he shot it on full auto outside the door to his shop, without sights, right after saying it was 7.62 but correcting himself to say it's .223/5.56. He hit 3/4 bowling pins guys! Which is pretty darn good because hitting anything with a machine gun is super hard. He said that. His gun is THAT accurate.

I'm going to order one now.

CS1983
11-16-2020, 14:18
I was curious what makes him think his rifle is so special and especially the claim it's the thickest barrel available. So I watched a YouTube video of him explaining it. I think I got dumber by watching him show his gun.

He said his barrel is .950". By my account that makes it just a teeny tiny bit bigger than a standard bull barrel but just enough so that standard gas blocks won't work I guess. He said his barrel "beats Ruger, Remington and Winchester...all the others on the market." Does Winchester make AR's...oh doesn't matter. His fat barrel makes his gun more accurate.

Oh, and he's using a chrome BCG. Wow!!! Best money can buy. (As he points to the bolt face and says look, there's the firing pin, which obviously can't be seen). Look how nice it slides in there!

Then he shot it on full auto outside the door to his shop, without sights, right after saying it was 7.62 but correcting himself to say it's .223/5.56. He hit 3/4 bowling pins guys! Which is pretty darn good because hitting anything with a machine gun is super hard. He said that. His gun is THAT accurate.

I'm going to order one now.

He doesn't just shoot "right outside the door to his shop", he shoots across what is basically the parking lot, and his target is next to what I can only surmise is a recreation area next to the parking lot.

And people wonder why we say things like "Hope your life insurance is up to date" when they mention going there.

(skip to 6:00 for the outdoor shooting action)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WKujQJB3OM

BladesNBarrels
11-16-2020, 17:11
Yaa Hoo!
Gotta remember that next time I go to the range.

kidicarus13
11-16-2020, 17:43
Serial #'s less than 200. "Collectable."

Oh if were only that simple.

colorider
11-16-2020, 18:07
He talks as if you just order up a full auto rifle. What a tool. Always has been, always will be.

Circuits
11-16-2020, 18:47
He doesn't just shoot "right outside the door to his shop", he shoots across what is basically the parking lot, and his target is next to what I can only surmise is a recreation area next to the parking lot.

And people wonder why we say things like "Hope your life insurance is up to date" when they mention going there.

(skip to 6:00 for the outdoor shooting action)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WKujQJB3OM
Seems like he's clearly closed when they shot that, and anyone on his private property while he's closed kind of has it coming. Big dirt berm (dirt mountains) behind his target setup.

I'm not saying he's a gem among gents, but I don't see any safety issues in this clip.

The area to the left of the dirt berm, iirc, is a paintball park and to the right would be pasture, unless he's reconfigured the place since I was there last. There are clearly no customers on the paintball range, meaning it was probably shot on a Monday (closed on Mondays).

CS1983
11-16-2020, 18:50
Who are the folks in the shop that he invites out to watch him shoot? They seem like customers rather than employees.

Bailey Guns
11-16-2020, 19:05
...but I don't see any safety issues in this clip.

Because holding a rifle between your legs, pointed perpendicular to the target area, is clearly the preferred method of controlling a rifle.

FoxtArt
11-16-2020, 19:09
I'm sure if we all had video of each of us left and right someone could pick it apart and find something we're all doing.

E.g. when I mindlessly pick my nose with the barrel of a Ruger-22, I'm sure someone here would have a comment about it :/ "Get your bang straw out of your booger maker" or some such thing.

FoxtArt
11-16-2020, 19:10
Then again though, none of the rest of us have ever had a spouse killed by flashy-flashy-'splody stuff on the range, either. So, there is that.

Irving
11-16-2020, 19:44
I try to be extra careful when I'm on the news.

Circuits
11-16-2020, 20:16
Who are the folks in the shop that he invites out to watch him shoot? They seem like customers rather than employees.
At a guess, members of the crew interviewing him? And probably an employee or two. Maybe COVID has changed the dynamic, but his parking lot was almost always full when I was out there, and he was actually open - with a crowds of paintballers, crews of motocross riders, and a full or nearly-full firing range.

Circuits
11-16-2020, 20:18
Because holding a rifle between your legs, pointed perpendicular to the target area, is clearly the preferred method of controlling a rifle.

pfft - I've dual-wielded machine guns when the range conditions permitted it. You wanna live forever?

3beansalad
11-16-2020, 20:40
Not a Fan of him.

His wife was awesome.His daughter seems to be pretty amazing as well.

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crays
11-16-2020, 21:48
I was going to quote and comment on a previous post, but I figured it would get me another ban... [emoji41]

Sent from somewhere

kidicarus13
11-01-2021, 16:59
America's Most Armed Man

https://kekbfm.com/americas-most-armed-man-colorado/

rondog
11-01-2021, 18:17
That fucker's still alive?

bradbn4
11-01-2021, 18:34
I remember talking to him way back when he moved to Colorado.
I did enjoy the talk, etc - loved the setup for working on the Harley Davidson motorcycle jugs.

Vic Tory
11-01-2021, 20:10
Bernstein said that he is the only gun manufacturer in Colorado, and has a Class 7 license allowing him to specialize in automatic and semiautomatic weapons

And naturally the reporter failed to check the validity of this statement.

Never expect professionalism from KRDO ... or the Gazette.

Delfuego
11-01-2021, 20:34
That fucker's still alive?[ROFL1]
You win the internet. Good night.

Vic Tory
11-01-2021, 22:01
I shot at that place twice with my buddy.

The second time lasted fewer than 20 minutes. -- after the RSO *watched* the people at the station next to us muzzle us with their weapons for a 3rd time -- I left. I've never been back. I will not go back.
:mad:
(Yes. I spoke to the neighboring shooters ... twice! When the RSO did nothing I was OUTA THERE!)

flogger
11-02-2021, 08:00
......lives with 4 female mannequins......

???

ChickNorris
11-02-2021, 11:11
......lives with 4 female mannequins......

???

HoneyBadger
11-02-2021, 13:38
Can we please not ever talk about that clown again on this forum? Hey T, can we add that to the forum rules? [facepalm]

Bailey Guns
11-02-2021, 16:35
I shot at that place twice with my buddy.


In my mind I thought you were going somewhere completely different with that post...

theGinsue
11-02-2021, 19:33
Can we please not ever talk about that clown again on this forum? Hey T, can we add that to the forum rules? [facepalm]

Brother, I'd LOVE to add Dragonman to the restricted topics list (which really is VERY short) but I can predict that if I were to do that we'd suddenly have a slew of folks wanting to talk about him and declaring the rule heavy-handed, etc.

While the staff tries to do our best at striking a balance, we're always fighting a losing battle.

Vic Tory
11-02-2021, 19:35
In my mind I thought you were going somewhere completely different with that post...

:D

Aloha_Shooter
11-03-2021, 10:50
Can we please not ever talk about that clown again on this forum? Hey T, can we add that to the forum rules? [facepalm]

Meh, at least he's in the title. You can choose to opt out of opening this thread ... which is something I'm going to do from now on.

ChadAmberg
11-03-2021, 14:43
Never expect professionalism from KRDO ... or the Gazette.

All media, at all times, about everything.

“Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them.
In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.”

HoneyBadger
11-03-2021, 21:51
Brother, I'd LOVE to add Dragonman to the restricted topics list (which really is VERY short) but I can predict that if I were to do that we'd suddenly have a slew of folks wanting to talk about him and declaring the rule heavy-handed, etc.

While the staff tries to do our best at striking a balance, we're always fighting a losing battle.

This is why I appreciate everything you do here. Much wisdom. :D

DDT951
11-04-2021, 07:04
I don’t know dragon man.

Why is he so disliked?

I looked up a you tube video and found him and dragon girl with two new Nissans.

But the in the video there were a couple of tanks. Those look fun. Why would they be showing off Nissan Muranos and not the tanks?

I suspect dragon girl is the daughter mentioned in the thread?

00tec
11-04-2021, 07:35
I don’t know dragon man.

Why is he so disliked?

I looked up a you tube video and found him and dragon girl with two new Nissans.

But the in the video there were a couple of tanks. Those look fun. Why would they be showing off Nissan Muranos and not the tanks?

I suspect dragon girl is the daughter mentioned in the thread?

Because he is a pompous asshole that believes that only people like him should have cool shit because he knows better than you and I, despite his range being terribly unsafe, and himself having an oopsie that killed his wife.

DDT951
11-04-2021, 08:42
Because he is a pompous asshole that believes that only people like him should have cool shit because he knows better than you and I, despite his range being terribly unsafe, and himself having an oopsie that killed his wife.

What do you mean only cool people like him? Is the money he has spent on NFA items?

Not knowing him, I have no idea why he is pompous. Was there some pompous threads in the past?

It appears to me with my very limited search of him, he (like a million others) are trying to be youtube "stars"?

Circuits
11-04-2021, 09:07
Because he is a pompous asshole that believes that only people like him should have cool shit because he knows better than you and I, despite his range being terribly unsafe, and himself having an oopsie that killed his wife.
That's like blaming the victim for being hit by a drunk driver.

To be clear, his wife was killed by a special-effects pyrotechnic gone wrong during taping of their television show. Dragonman was not the person who rigged or detonated the pyro, that was the TV crew.

There are legit complaints about aspects of Mel Bernstein's business and attitude, but his wife's death is not among them, IMO.

colorider
11-04-2021, 09:21
Dragondipshit scammed hundreds of thousands of dollars from the motorcycle community doing "custom" work on bikes or collecting money and doing no work. Sometimes just not doing a damn thing and keeping the parts people have sent in and claiming they never arrived or got lost after he sent them back out. If you have time and want to waste it, do some google fu and read about it. He basically was run out of Long Island and came to CO to start his bullshit here. This is back when he was a machinist and motorcycle fabricator. Or at least that is what he called himself. I've known of this turd since way back when. Also know a few people that he completely screwed over way back when

O2HeN2
11-04-2021, 09:50
What do you mean only cool people like him?

During the Clinton crackdown on FFLs (the same BS that's being recycled today as "dealers that sell to criminals") he was interviewed by a local Colorado Springs TV station and was all for severe restrictions on FFLs.

Fewer FFLs means more sales for him.

Any law that'll put more money in his pocket he's for - even if it guts the 2nd amendment.

O2

Ps. At least nowadays the CS stations appear to go to Paul Paradise who does a good job at being principled.

DDT951
11-04-2021, 10:01
During the Clinton crackdown on FFLs (the same BS that's being recycled today as "dealers that sell to criminals") he was interviewed by a local Colorado Springs TV station and was all for severe restrictions on FFLs.

Fewer FFLs means more sales for him.

Any law that'll put more money in his pocket he's for - even if it guts the 2nd amendment.

O2

Ps. At least nowadays the CS stations appear to go to Paul Paradise who does a good job at being principled.

Reasonable reason not to like him.

HoneyBadger
11-04-2021, 10:26
He loves blabbing to the media every chance he gets.... and when they DO stick a microphone in his face, just about everything he says gives gun owners a bad name and/or makes us all look like crazies. He LOVES the attention and will quickly throw you and your rights under the bus for a little fame.

The fact that his range is incredibly unsafe is a separate issue. I have been to the range several times and nearly every time I was flagged with a loaded weapon and the range officer did nothing or took very minimal action to correct the behavior. The last time I was there was in 2014 and somebody standing 3ft behind a range officer had a Negligent Discharge at the pistol range WHILE EVERYONE WAS DOWNRANGE. The person was not kicked off the range, and the RO seemed to spend a minute or two investigating "why the gun fired" while the range was cold... and didn't put much attention into "why an individual violated several range safety rules and pulled the trigger on their firearm while the range was cold". Myself and about half of the others there on the range immediately packed up our stuff and left.

TEAMRICO
11-04-2021, 14:45
Why don’t those of you don’t like him campaign to have him shut down? You can make signs and chant slogans and get Gabbi Giffords involved.


When did this turn into a Mean Girls Facebook page?

You don’t like him? Then get over it.

Bunch of grown men bitchen’ like the kids I work with.
Give it a rest.


I said my part.

Ah Pook
11-04-2021, 17:10
Brother, I'd LOVE to add Dragonman to the restricted topics list (which really is VERY short) but I can predict that if I were to do that we'd suddenly have a slew of folks wanting to talk about him and declaring the rule heavy-handed, etc.

I can think of a couple of names but will reframe from [beatdeadhorse].

Great-Kazoo
11-04-2021, 18:26
Dragondipshit scammed hundreds of thousands of dollars from the motorcycle community doing "custom" work on bikes or collecting money and doing no work. Sometimes just not doing a damn thing and keeping the parts people have sent in and claiming they never arrived or got lost after he sent them back out. If you have time and want to waste it, do some google fu and read about it. He basically was run out of Long Island and came to CO to start his bullshit here. This is back when he was a machinist and motorcycle fabricator. Or at least that is what he called himself. I've known of this turd since way back when. Also know a few people that he completely screwed over way back when


Actually he was talking about moving to CO, back in the late 70's early 80's.

flogger
11-04-2021, 18:51
Why don?t those of you don?t like him campaign to have him shut down? You can make signs and chant slogans and get Gabbi Giffords involved.


When did this turn into a Mean Girls Facebook page?

You don?t like him? Then get over it.

Bunch of grown men bitchen? like the kids I work with.
Give it a rest.


I said my part.

Well said.

BushMasterBoy
11-04-2021, 21:10
This^^^

MrPrena
11-05-2021, 00:37
Another popular dislike topics are:

- Les Flecher in Plano TX
- Dudley Brown
- dude to stole chainsaw and told everyone to take " sand out of vagi_."

Bailey Guns
11-05-2021, 06:04
Why don’t those of you don’t like him campaign to have him shut down? You can make signs and chant slogans and get Gabbi Giffords involved.


When did this turn into a Mean Girls Facebook page?

You don’t like him? Then get over it.

Bunch of grown men bitchen’ like the kids I work with.
Give it a rest.


I said my part.

You're my hero for the day...

HoneyBadger
11-05-2021, 08:06
Another popular dislike topics are:

- Les Flecher in Plano TX
- Dudley Brown
- dude to stole chainsaw and told everyone to take " sand out of vagi_."


Oh man! Those are some good COAR memories! [ROFL1]

CS1983
11-05-2021, 09:33
Why don?t those of you don?t like him campaign to have him shut down? You can make signs and chant slogans and get Gabbi Giffords involved.


When did this turn into a Mean Girls Facebook page?

You don?t like him? Then get over it.

Bunch of grown men bitchen? like the kids I work with.
Give it a rest.


I said my part.

Because none of us want any potential ally shut down, and regardless, we believe in the actual rights he seems to only believe in when financially advantageous for him. To negatively impact him in the way you said is a Pyrrhic victory.

It would be better for him to remove his head from his own ass and realize he has a national platform to impact actual change, along with policing his range so that it's safer.

Mel has such great potential for vision and diversifying a local attraction, as he has done. I don't think anyone can fault him for his forethought and business sense or the fact that he has realized mechanisms to finance his dreams and hobbies.

But it's like watching a sculptor make something amazing and utilitarian, only to add a massive dick to it at the end.

He is his own worst enemy.

Little Dutch
11-05-2021, 09:52
Why don’t those of you don’t like him campaign to have him shut down? You can make signs and chant slogans and get Gabbi Giffords involved.


When did this turn into a Mean Girls Facebook page?

You don’t like him? Then get over it.

Bunch of grown men bitchen’ like the kids I work with.
Give it a rest.


I said my part.


Because none of us want any potential ally shut down, and regardless, we believe in the actual rights he seems to only believe in when financially advantageous for him. To negatively impact him in the way you said is a Pyrrhic victory.

It would be better for him to remove his head from his own ass and realize he has a national platform to impact actual change, along with policing his range so that it's safer.

Mel has such great potential for vision and diversifying a local attraction, as he has done. I don't think anyone can fault him for his forethought and business sense or the fact that he has realized mechanisms to finance his dreams and hobbies.

But it's like watching a sculptor make something amazing and utilitarian, only to add a massive dick to it at the end.

He is his own worst enemy.

Basically this. ^^^^^^^ Plus, you don't wreck a mans lively hood over petty shit, no matter how much of a dickhead that man may be. It's liberal SJW bullshit to even suggest it.

It's interesting that none of the reporters ever bother to actually look up his companies FFL and question why it isn't in his name. Maybe they have but realized his sound-bytes generate more traffic than slamming him would.<shrug.gif/>

Squeeze
11-08-2021, 14:31
Not a Fan of him.

His wife was awesome.

His wife was really cool. I remember talking to her many years ago.