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funkymonkey1111
11-19-2020, 14:33
Looking for input on swaging--is something like the Dillon 600 the way to go, or are the powered Prep Center machines better in the long run?
Not a huge volume reloader, but that may change (or not, depending on primers).
I prefer Dillon 600 to the "spinning/cutting" prep center.
Dillon CP2000, 1050, or 1100 would be best.
gnihcraes
11-19-2020, 15:46
Dillon 600 mounted to a board and a spring attached to it. Makes it easier to deal with.
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Great-Kazoo
11-19-2020, 16:51
Dillon swager = $114.99 + s&h
LEE APP = $80 + the swager kit + the swage kit $35) = $115 = S&H.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1022385797
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1022387359?pid=983551
I used the dillon 600 for a few hours, before i sold it and picked up a 1050, a few years back. Sold that before moving. No longer doing that volume the APP and swage kit has paid for itself many times over.
If i actually picked up a lg volume of 223, i'd give it to the neighbor, to run through his CP 2000
Batteriesnare
11-19-2020, 16:57
Dillon swager = $114.99 + s&h
LEE APP = $80 + the swager kit + the swage kit $35) = $115 = S&H.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1022385797
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1022387359?pid=983551
Damn, that's a pretty slick setup for those of us not in to the Big Blue machines.......
JohnnyDrama
11-20-2020, 09:32
I had this question rattling around my head earlier this week. I was wondering about the Lee APP and the ability to do more than just swaging primer pockets. It looks like a great little tool. Unfortunately, Midway is sold out....
funkymonkey1111
11-20-2020, 15:31
What press you running?
550
If you have a case feeder on the 550 I would look at the Swage It on Ebay. If not one of the above options will be better suited.
Great-Kazoo
11-21-2020, 21:59
I had this question rattling around my head earlier this week. I was wondering about the Lee APP and the ability to do more than just swaging primer pockets. It looks like a great little tool. Unfortunately, Midway is sold out....
Midsouth shooters supply as well as a few other outlets have a limited inventory.
If you have a case feeder on the 550 I would look at the Swage It on Ebay. If not one of the above options will be better suited.
The swage it runs an average of $100. Why use it when there's no support inside the case, while swaging.
Where the APP and swage kit, combined, run another $30. If one has access to a 3d printer, they can print out a case feeder, minus electrical components. Or buy one from karl bibb, or buy my small 3d case feeder ;) The APP has more, all around, versatility than the swag it.
jreifsch80
12-02-2020, 16:23
Also for the app ypu cpuld just use a lee universal case feeder with collator
Midsouth shooters supply as well as a few other outlets have a limited inventory.
The swage it runs an average of $100. Why use it when there's no support inside the case, while swaging.
Where the APP and swage kit, combined, run another $30. If one has access to a 3d printer, they can print out a case feeder, minus electrical components. Or buy one from karl bibb, or buy my small 3d case feeder ;) The APP has more, all around, versatility than the swag it.
Inspired by this post that I saw last night, I have started printing a large case feeder. Thanks Kazoo.
I also recommended the APP to a friend based on this thread. So, if it all fails, we may have an angry CO-AR meet in AZ to discuss it.... haha
Inspired by this post that I saw last night, I have started printing a large case feeder. Thanks Kazoo.
I also recommended the APP to a friend based on this thread. So, if it all fails, we may have an angry CO-AR meet in AZ to discuss it.... haha
It should get here this weekend, will post pics and a review eventually.
Well, I must say, that little Lee APP press with the Lee AAP swage kit is the best thing short of a Dillon 1050/1100/2000 for swaging primer pockets. Once adjusted, it ran like a champ. Consistent, perfect swage every time.
Of course...I also had to order the Inline Fabrication quick change plate for it.
Grant H.
12-04-2020, 10:53
Another vote for the Lee APP unless you decide a 1050/1100/2000 is in your future.
Great-Kazoo
12-04-2020, 14:15
Inspired by this post that I saw last night, I have started printing a large case feeder. Thanks Kazoo.
I also recommended the APP to a friend based on this thread. So, if it all fails, we may have an angry CO-AR meet in AZ to discuss it.... haha
Join the pissed at kazoo crowd. Either way there's plenty of room to pitch a tent, or camper here. 1 week is the allotted time frame for guest.
Great-Kazoo
12-04-2020, 14:19
Well, I must say, that little Lee APP press with the Lee AAP swage kit is the best thing short of a Dillon 1050/1100/2000 for swaging primer pockets. Once adjusted, it ran like a champ. Consistent, perfect swage every time.
Of course...I also had to order the Inline Fabrication quick change plate for it.
Another vote for the Lee APP unless you decide a 1050/1100/2000 is in your future.
It does take a few to set it up. Read the instructions 2x if going from rifle to pistol to swage. I believe if one wanted to. The app would make a nice dedicated brass trim die set up.
I'm not a lee fan. They have great ideas, but turn out what one can see is clearly a budget based product. As i mentioned before, IF they did their products would be in the rcbs - dillon price range. A plus is their warranty and, considering i had to use them for a part issue. Good customer service. . Then again IF an item works, i don't care whose name is on it. It works.
Everyone enjoy their APP, and case feeder;)
Grant H.
12-04-2020, 18:33
I've only played with an APP that a buddy has, he did all the setup.
I went the 1050 route...
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