Will Republicans Continue to Suck?

[Singlestack]

Although there is a broader question, what I'm referring to is specific to next Tuesday's two US senate elections in Georgia. I'm proposing as a given that the same problems as on election day in November will occur because the milqtoast republican gov, Lt. gov, and secretary of state have done nothing to correct them and have actively opposed fixing it. So the same processes, procedures, and rules will still apply (which is sort of unbelievable).

My question involves what the state and county republican parties will do, if anything, to rectify (since they didn't act to prevent) voter and counting fraud on/after election day. That is, will the republicans physically demand to verify every vote as valid? I'm not talking about a verbal demand, which I expect they will make. I mean physically. That means if, for example, poll workers demand they observe from another room or too far away, the republican poll watchers will physically not accept that and move to whatever distance they feel gives them reliable verification, even if thats 3' away. And if physically confronted will meet force with force. My answer to the question is the republican monitors will at best verbally object but will allow themselves to be manipulated in whatever way those running the election demand.

In my opinion it is probably also a given that "enough" fraud will occur to put the two dem candidates over the top, and the republicans in the end won't stop it. The dems know as well as the republicans how important these 2 elections are, and they are "feeling their oats". I guess this question is similar to "when will the Durham report come out and where are all of the indictments"?

Whats your opinion? Will the republicans step up to the obvious challenge?

[Wulf202]

C) None of the above

[Great-Kazoo]

Although there is a broader question, what I'm referring to is specific to next Tuesday's two US senate elections in Georgia. I'm proposing as a given that the same problems as on election day in November will occur because the milqtoast republican gov, Lt. gov, and secretary of state have done nothing to correct them and have actively opposed fixing it. So the same processes, procedures, and rules will still apply (which is sort of unbelievable).

My question involves what the state and county republican parties will do, if anything, to rectify (since they didn't act to prevent) voter and counting fraud on/after election day. That is, will the republicans physically demand to verify every vote as valid? I'm not talking about a verbal demand, which I expect they will make. I mean physically. That means if, for example, poll workers demand they observe from another room or too far away, the republican poll watchers will physically not accept that and move to whatever distance they feel gives them reliable verification, even if thats 3' away. And if physically confronted will meet force with force. My answer to the question is the republican monitors will at best verbally object but will allow themselves to be manipulated in whatever way those running the election demand.

In my opinion it is probably also a given that "enough" fraud will occur to put the two dem candidates over the top, and the republicans in the end won't stop it. The dems know as well as the republicans how important these 2 elections are, and they are "feeling their oats". I guess this question is similar to "when will the Durham report come out and where are all of the indictments"?

Whats your opinion? Will the republicans step up to the obvious challenge?

nothing will change. The durham report has been regulated to the circular file.

The TL:DR version. same shit, different day.

[beast556]

Another +1 on nothing will change or be done about the fraud. There is very very very very little difference between republicans and democrats. One thing they bolth have in common is keeping there power and lining there pockets for as long as possible.

[sroz]

Stacey Abrams' judge sister already ruled against the GOP on one challenge. I expected the GOP would bring it to a higher court, but as of now I have seen no indication that they are or will. The time to confront this is before the election, but the GOP does not seem inclined to do so. Hopefully I've just missed it.

[cstone]

According to Magic 8 ball:

Will Republicans continue to suck?

YES

Will Republicans step up to obvious challenges?

NO

[Joe_K]

Yes.

[roberth]

According to Magic 8 ball:

Will Republicans continue to suck?

YES

Will Republicans step up to obvious challenges?

NO

Correct.

[Aloha_Shooter]

The state GOP are just hoping they get ignored as the Dems continue to give regular Americans their proctology exams and enemas.

[Gman]

Yes.

Next question.

[GilpinGuy]

Yes.

Easy question.

[BPTactical]

Yes, they know no other way than mediocrity.

Until the GOP is willing to lie, cheat, steal, cheat, murder, cheat, riot in the streets, cheat, dox those that oppose them, cheat etc they will continue to be irrelevant and ineffective.

[earplug]

Negotiated virtue is a common trait in political and religious groups.

[BushMasterBoy]

Nancy Pelosi house got tagged. Organized anarchy symbol on garage door. Pigs head in driveway.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9105277/Speaker-Pelosis-house-VANDALIZED-red-paint-pigs-head-message-2-000-checks.html

[BPTactical]

Nancy Pelosi house got tagged. Organized anarchy symbol on garage door. Pigs head in driveway.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9105277/Speaker-Pelosis-house-VANDALIZED-red-paint-pigs-head-message-2-000-checks.html


They will eat their own.

[Singlestack]

Not a fan of vandalism in general or harassment of public figures at home, but also Karma is truly a bitch and you do reap what you sow...

[Gman]

They will eat their own.

Yep. I find progressive social media business leaders that have been shutting down opposition to their favored political allegiance to be quite naive. The Dems are huge fans of government regulation.

[cstone]

As long as one party sucks, you can expect the other party blows.

[BPTactical]

As long as one party sucks, you can expect the other party blows.

But what if they both suck?

[cstone]

But what if they both suck?

Then they will both blow on the exhale.

[BPTactical]

Then they will both blow on the exhale.

Negative GhostRider, like a black hole the suck is constant.

[Joe_K]

If both of the parties are not working for you, the citizen, are there two parties? Or just one? The Republicrats, or the Demolicans?

[Gman]

2 sides of the same coin. They enrichen themselves, their family members, and political contributors at our expense.

[Justin]

The GOP establishment are the Washington Generals of politics.

[cstone]

The GOP establishment are the Washington Generals of politics.

Meadowlark Lemon approves this post.

[Singlestack]

So does Curly Neal, got rest his soul

[Colorado Osprey]

The Republican Party abandoned Conservatives after Reagan. The Republican Party is no different in scope and view than the Dem's. The difference is the Dem's don't hide the goal or speed at which they are trying to bring change to the country. The Republicans are just on a slower path and try and hide the agenda. Until most voters realize this there will not be any reversing the course.

[Zundfolge]

The Republican Party abandoned Conservatives after Reagan.

The Republican Party had already abandoned Conservatives when they refused to get behind Goldwater. Reagan was much like Trump, hated by the Establishment and undermined at every turn.

This is an old problem. And the truth is, the people don't want a rigorous and vital liberty, they want 3 hots and a cot. The American people are lazy, venal and corrupt, so why do we think our government would be any different.

[JohnnyDrama]

The Republican Party had already abandoned Conservatives when they refused to get behind Goldwater. Reagan was much like Trump, hated by the Establishment and undermined at every turn.

This is an old problem. And the truth is, the people don't want a rigorous and vital liberty, they want 3 hots and a cot. The American people are lazy, venal and corrupt, so why do we think our government would be any different.

This article addresses issues behind several of the comments made so far in this thread: "The Atheism of the West"

Here is an article I came across on another forum. It discusses how the "conservative side" has largely given up on many of the more traditional morals in a concession to the "progressive side". It also points out how subtle the morals were replaced without the general public being aware. The article discusses an insight published by Augusto del Noce (1910-89) regarding the cultural revolution that occurred in the 60s. The gist of the article is that during the cold war, the west sold our collective soul to defeat communism. We turned our backs on patriarchy and religion and replaced them with eroticism, positivism, and secularization.

https://bionicmosquito.blogspot.com/2020/12/the-atheism-of-west.html


Negotiated virtue is a common trait in political and religious groups.

Sort of a case of common means to a common end.


Yep. I find progressive social media business leaders that have been shutting down opposition to their favored political allegiance to be quite naive. The Dems are huge fans of government regulation.

We have replaced natural law with the fickle laws of man.

There's more to this article than what I sort of highlighted. I thought this was good food for thought. I won't spoil it.

[Zundfolge]

This article addresses issues behind several of the comments made so far in this thread: "The Atheism of the West"

https://bionicmosquito.blogspot.com/2020/12/the-atheism-of-west.html.

Excellent read, thanks for posting that.

[rondog]

So, I need to clean and lube all my guns and magazines, and get 'em ready? Dammit.....

[Singlestack]

Listened to Glenn Beck this morning on iHeart radio. He had the head pollster for Trafalgar Group on. Although pollsters generally completely sucked, Trafalgar was the closest in the last 3 elections ('16, '18, '20). Anyway, he predicts a split decision today, with Loeffler and Ossoff winning. His polling indicated the republicans with a +5 point advantage before the budget deal ($600/person). Trump helped by immediately coming out with the $2K demand, but McConnell's demand for no $2K turned off many low-income voters, and the lack of clarity by Purdue/Loeffler on the $2K produced a 5 point loss in polling prediction. The feeling between the Trafalgar guy and Beck was this amounted to an unforced error by the republicans. That makes sense to me, and reinforces the feeling the republicans continue to be the party of stupid.

[FoxtArt]

It's not looking good in Georgia. [panic]

[.455_Hunter]

Watching the GOP clown show over the past two weeks looked like "How To Lose Georgia Special Elections 101".

[def90]

Listened to Glenn Beck this morning on iHeart radio. He had the head pollster for Trafalgar Group on. Although pollsters generally completely sucked, Trafalgar was the closest in the last 3 elections ('16, '18, '20). Anyway, he predicts a split decision today, with Loeffler and Ossoff winning. His polling indicated the republicans with a +5 point advantage before the budget deal ($600/person). Trump helped by immediately coming out with the $2K demand, but McConnell's demand for no $2K turned off many low-income voters, and the lack of clarity by Purdue/Loeffler on the $2K produced a 5 point loss in polling prediction. The feeling between the Trafalgar guy and Beck was this amounted to an unforced error by the republicans. That makes sense to me, and reinforces the feeling the republicans continue to be the party of stupid.

A lot of people will complain that the $2k amounts to socialism but in the end the Democrats have abandoned the working class in favor of identity politics, Trump was able to bring those people in that felt they were abandoned by the Dems, McConnell pretty much told those people to fuck off as well. Should have just gone with it and dealt with the issue at a later time, Republicans need to learn how to play the game. All of the talk over the last few weeks of elections being rigged and to boycott the vote by people that are supposedly on Trumps side had to factor in as well, f’ing retards.

[BPTactical]

Watching the GOP clown show over the past two weeks looked like "How To Lose Georgia Special Elections 101".

"Snatching Defeat From The Jaws Of Victory"

[KAPA]

Well, looks like it's over and Dems control everything.

My thoughts: Not sure how conservatives compete with election season and no voter ID. Need voting to be assured to be a fraud free process. Without that there is no shot in the future.

Conservatives are being outpopulated. Dems are bringing them in by the boatload all the time. My stance on abortion has changed. Is it killing? Yeah but I don't need a law to tell me what is the right thing to do. Keep it legal and stop preventing abortion in red states. Literally it is population control. At the same time, teach your kids right so they know right and wrong.

[UrbanWolf]

Republicans in “free” states are too complacent, they thought they can never become California or Colorado. I’ve been saying for years that the urban and suburban sprawl will turn every state’s election map blue.

[sroz]

All the Dems have to do now in the Senate is overcome the filibuster rule and vote on the House-approve bill for DC statehood. Maybe even add Puerto Rico. Yee-haw.....

[UrbanWolf]

All the Dems have to do now in the Senate is overcome the filibuster rule and vote on the House-approve bill for DC statehood. Maybe even add Puerto Rico. Yee-haw.....

Also pack the Supreme Court.

[Rooskibar03]

We're so screwed. Sad day

[walkerwv]

All Empires Fail and when Washington's global dominion finally ends, there will be painful daily reminders of what such a loss of power means for Americans in every walk of life. As a half-dozen European nations have discovered, imperial decline tends to have a remarkably demoralizing impact on a society, regularly bringing at least a generation of economic privation. As the economy cools down and the political temperatures rise, often alot of unrest comes from the parties.

Data you can see online says the economic, educational, and military charts indicate that, when it comes to U.S. global power, negative trends will aggregate rapidly by 2021 and are likely to reach a critical mass no later than 2028. The American Century, proclaimed so triumphantly at the start of World War II, will be tattered and fading by 2025, its eighth decade, and could be history by 2030. Sad as it is.. We go on.

[Singlestack]

Late last night my nephew in Kalifornia called me. He is a gun-owning conservative looking for a new job out of state. He regularly reads leftist web sites to understand what they are proposing and how they would go about it. He tells me that some posters (maybe true or BS) have been saying over the past few weeks that if the dems control congress and Biden is sworn in (seems true at this point), no oversight will take place. Quite a few on the left are proposing using and integrating powerful tools owned by the intelligence community and the social media companies to identify republican, conservative, and church leaders who have the potential to cause them problems now or in the future. This identification will include identifying contacts for each of them and assembling a "risk tree" including names, addresses, employers/employees, family members, friends, etc. In parallel, many are proposing a social media campaign to identify gun owners by ratting them out - again, names, what they own, amount of ammo, etc. The idea being that even if the guy next door is on your side, his wife or son/daughter living with them may not be. This may be tied to some sort of rewards or credit system to motivate people to volunteer info.

I'm sure this is a fever dream of the left (one of many), but from my reading it seems that this level of integrated data collection technology has existed for some time. We have heard some in leftist leadership positions advocating for exactly these kind of things. Of course, they almost never go into detail about exactly they would do with this information. I'm of the belief that intelligence preparation should be in response to capabilities, rather than guessing about intentions. The capabilities alone should raise alarm.

[Irving]

Conservatives are being outpopulated.

Oh man, if only we lived right next to a country that was full of conservative Catholics with a growing population.

[RblDiver]

Oh man, if only we lived right next to a country that was full of conservative Catholics with a growing population.

Given their current leadership, I don't know if you can really count Catholics as "conservative."

[.455_Hunter]

I will give Democrats credit for one thing- they will vote for their candidate who eventually ends-up on the ballot. Republicans will try to think of every reason why they shouldn't support their own candidate.

[clodhopper]

Given their current leadership, I don't know if you can really count Catholics as "conservative."

Agree. The rabid Latin Mass faction of the Catholic church is still very conservative, but that is a very small minority. The rest of the church wandered away from conservative ideas over the last 4 decades. Today the church is very liberal.

@Irving - are you suggesting their influx would make our country more conservative? Or conservatives should relocate to Mexico?

[Irving]

I don't want to start an argument in another thread with my opinions.

[.455_Hunter]

I guess Joe Manchin is now the most powerful senator?

[MrPrena]

Damn antifa breeched the Capitol building!


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/live-updates-pence-has-power-to-block-certification-trump-says

[RblDiver]

Looks like they're storming the Bastille!

[MrPrena]

Btw I was kidding about certain said group is invading. I didn't write "fake news" or sarcasm emoji. :)

[Gman]

If you just claim to be Antifa, do you get special treatment when it comes to “mostly peaceful” protest events?