Parler

[GilpinGuy]

This is outrageous. I love Parler, and just now it appears to be completely down. Anyone know anything about alternatives to Apple and Google phones? Are Linux phones there yet?


https://youtu.be/MNIxatQ0fKU

[eddiememphis]

BuzzFeed News obtained an email that Apple sent to Parler executives this morning accusing the company of facilitating the activities that took place at the Capitol. The email reads:

"We have received numerous complaints regarding objectionable content in your Parler service, accusations that the Parler app was used to plan, coordinate, and facilitate the illegal activities in Washington D.C. on January 6, 2021 that led (among other things) to loss of life, numerous injuries, and the destruction of property,” Apple wrote to Parler. “The app also appears to continue to be used to plan and facilitate yet further illegal and dangerous activities.”

UPDATED 5:42 p.m.: Google has blocked the messaging and social network app Parler from its store.

The company cited the "urgent public safety threat" in restricting the app, touted as a free-speech alternative.


What bunch of horse puckey.

[00tec]

Just download it directly. Android phones allow installs outside the store.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Another reason to not use the Google Play Store. Google is evil. Period.

[Ramsker]

Progressives: If you don't like Twitter . . . go create your own platform.

Also Progressives: Now that you've created your own platform, we don't like it and we're not going to let it be used.

[eddiememphis]

I was able to download and run the app on my Iphone.

[Gman]

Welcome to The New World.

I have had the app since not long after it started. There is no content available within it.

[hollohas]

Use your browser to access anything apple and Google app stores block.

[GilpinGuy]

Welcome to The New World.

I have had the app since not long after it started. There is no content available within it.

Apparently Amazon hosts them and they threatened to shut them down. Guess they did.

[tactical_2012]

So are they going to ban Facebook since it was used by BLM and Antifa for their crap. Next 4 years are going to be an interesting?

[GilpinGuy]

Anyone use a PinePhone?
https://pine64.com/product-category/pinephone/?v=0446c16e2e66

[GilpinGuy]

Parler just came back up for me. Maybe they're just getting hammered with new users right now. Hope so.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Once again, they are not progressive. These are regressive Stalinists and Maoists, from the totalitarian tactics to the rewriting of history and repression of dissent.

[Zundfolge]

There are options for Linux based phone OSs but they are usually very hardware dependent (won't install on just any phone). There are also custom Android ROMs you can install (never done it so if you want to do something like that you'll need to research ... maybe some phone gurus here can add something).

Here's a few.
https://lineageos.org/ (Android based)
https://ubuntu-touch.io/ (Linux based)
https://puri.sm/ (Linux based phone in pre-order status)
https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/ (Linux based phone that you can buy now)

There are also alternatives to the Google Play Store and Apple App store (I think the Apple ones are more difficult to use and might require "jailbreaking" of your phone first).

Here's Parler on one of the alternative stores for Android
https://apkpure.com/parler/com.parler.parler

[brutal]

I think Parler is getting hammered, probably oath is failing on the workload.

I wasn't able to login on a browser. Down detector sites are reporting new users failing oath trying to sign up.

[brutal]

There are options for Linux based phone OSs but they are usually very hardware dependent (won't install on just any phone). There are also custom Android ROMs you can install (never done it so if you want to do something like that you'll need to research ... maybe some phone gurus here can add something).

Here's a few.
https://lineageos.org/ (Android based)
https://ubuntu-touch.io/ (Linux based)
https://puri.sm/ (Linux based phone in pre-order status)
https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/ (Linux based phone that you can buy now)

There are also alternatives to the Google Play Store and Apple App store (I think the Apple ones are more difficult to use and might require "jailbreaking" of your phone first).

Here's Parler on one of the alternative stores for Android
https://apkpure.com/parler/com.parler.parler

It's pretty hard to install a ROM or image these days and still get access to everything on Play after tripping uncertified on SafetyNet. It can be done, but it's not trivial for most users.

[brutal]

Now Parler is failing on captcha verification for me.

[Gman]

I had content again this morning.

[OneGuy67]

Haven't been able to download the app from their website or from some mirror sites. Truly disgusting form of censorship on the part of Google, Apple and the others involved.

[GilpinGuy]

Firefox can suck it now too. Going with Brave 100% now.

https://thepostmillennial.com/mozillas-official-blog-we-need-more-than-deplatforming

[KAPA]

Been reading apple has now banned Parler and get this, tomorrow Amazon Web Service is cutting Parler off so that will take them offline completely.

[Great-Kazoo]

It's interesting.
The same people who tell you. We're not going to take your guns away.

Have literally suppressed opposing voices, from being heard.

[MrPrena]

Maybe the Samsung App might have em.

Again,welcome to billionaire world. Many of them don't like Republicans. They get rich off of lobbying and stricter restrictions. They are ones who would rather pay 3-5% more on taxes and make 100% more in revenue.

Poorer becomes poorer.

[hollohas]

This is getting NUTS.

[eddiememphis]

This is getting NUTS.

Is it?

[Nagant1984]

Hmmmm, this is a real Libertarian dillemma. Should companies have the freedom to set their own rules in how they do business or not? I recall Tucker Carlson standing with Jack Philips, the baker here in Colorado (the gay wedding cake fiasco) who took his fight against having to serve gay customers all the way to the Supreme court. So if Jack should have the freedom to make a decision on his religious / moral code and decide the type of customers he wants to serve, why should Apple, Twitter, Facebook or Google not be afforded those same freedoms? Just because they are larger? This isn't preventing anyone from using Parler. This would just make it less convenient as you wouldn't have the shortcut to get it off their stores. You'll have to use a web browser instead. Big deal. They can't prevent you from accessing the site, but they also don't have to make it easy for you. Facebook, Apple, Google etc etc are all capitalist companies. They aren't government regulated utilities like power, roads, postal services, etc. You can't force a company to partner with your product.

Whether you or I agree with what Google or Apple or any other company does in this fashion, I think you have to be consistent in your idea of freedom in the business world. I don't like hypocrisy and I think a lot of people expect to have their cake and eat it too (See what I did there?).

[sako55]

I am constant but they are provided protections under a law that no longer applies to them

[TFOGGER]

Hmmmm, this is a real Libertarian dillemma. Should companies have the freedom to set their own rules in how they do business or not? I recall Tucker Carlson standing with Jack Philips, the baker here in Colorado (the gay wedding cake fiasco) who took his fight against having to serve gay customers all the way to the Supreme court. So if Jack should have the freedom to make a decision on his religious / moral code and decide the type of customers he wants to serve, why should Apple, Twitter, Facebook or Google not be afforded those same freedoms? Just because they are larger? This isn't preventing anyone from using Parler. This would just make it less convenient as you wouldn't have the shortcut to get it off their stores. You'll have to use a web browser instead. Big deal. They can't prevent you from accessing the site, but they also don't have to make it easy for you. Facebook, Apple, Google etc etc are all capitalist companies. They aren't government regulated utilities like power, roads, postal services, etc. You can't force a company to partner with your product.

Whether you or I agree with what Google or Apple or any other company does in this fashion, I think you have to be consistent in your idea of freedom in the business world. I don't like hypocrisy and I think a lot of people expect to have their cake and eat it too (See what I did there?).

It goes to wielding monopoly power (the only 2 real choices for phone OSes) to further a political agenda. There are dozens of bakers that would have been happy to bake that cake, but the plaintiffs chose him specifically because they knew it would cause a kerfluffle. Phone users don't have that luxury when essentially all competitors have been forced out of the market, and the 2 players left are colluding.

[brutal]

Hmmmm, this is a real Libertarian dillemma. Should companies have the freedom to set their own rules in how they do business or not? I recall Tucker Carlson standing with Jack Philips, the baker here in Colorado (the gay wedding cake fiasco) who took his fight against having to serve gay customers all the way to the Supreme court. So if Jack should have the freedom to make a decision on his religious / moral code and decide the type of customers he wants to serve, why should Apple, Twitter, Facebook or Google not be afforded those same freedoms? Just because they are larger? This isn't preventing anyone from using Parler. This would just make it less convenient as you wouldn't have the shortcut to get it off their stores. You'll have to use a web browser instead. Big deal. They can't prevent you from accessing the site, but they also don't have to make it easy for you. Facebook, Apple, Google etc etc are all capitalist companies. They aren't government regulated utilities like power, roads, postal services, etc. You can't force a company to partner with your product.

Whether you or I agree with what Google or Apple or any other company does in this fashion, I think you have to be consistent in your idea of freedom in the business world. I don't like hypocrisy and I think a lot of people expect to have their cake and eat it too (See what I did there?).

You missed the part about AWS shutting down Parler because they accused them of inciting violence?

The platforms are provided protection under the law with Section 230. They are not even pretending to be a platform only provider with their blatant censorship. For that reason they should either not receive those protections or be held accountable. If they don't hide behind 230, then they can do what they hell they want. Until then, they have no right to censor the content
.

[GilpinGuy]

Check your emergency notifications on your phone. Apparently Apple and Google have disabled them just in case Trump wants to send something out. Incredible. My settings are grayed out and can't be changed. This is so 1984.

[brutal]

Where are you seeing this?

All my alerts show enabled. Presidential Alerts are greyed out but show "mandatory and always turned on"

[Planner]

Firefox can suck it now too. Going with Brave 100% now.

https://thepostmillennial.com/mozillas-official-blog-we-need-more-than-deplatforming

DuckDuckGo is another good option.


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[Planner]

Check your emergency notifications on your phone. Apparently Apple and Google have disabled them just in case Trump wants to send something out. Incredible. My settings are grayed out and can't be changed. This is so 1984.

I saw some messaging on that last night as well. I?m not seeing that on my iPhone 11, but it also wants to install an update which I may sit on for a few weeks.

This action is a Surefire way to draw legal heat from states and municipalities that use the emergency alert systems.

I need to start reading those handheld radio threads......


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[Singlestack]

>This action is a Surefire way to draw legal heat from states and municipalities that use the emergency alert systems.

Normally, but not in today's world Dems wont oppose since it is the greater good. Republicans won't because they are cowards and want everyone to like them. Nope, at this point big tech can truly do whatever the hell they want.

[hollohas]

I'm all for businesses' right to refuse service (however hypocritical Dems are in this case). But there are serious ethical questions with one of the government's largest cloud contractors (AWS) using the very service they provide to 6,500 government agencies as a tool to censor public information.

A company who profits from LARGE government contracts is susceptible to pressure from the government officials. They aren't exactly acting on purely private goals. The lines between public and private is much more blurry here then in the case of a dude in Lakewood baking cakes.

[Great-Kazoo]

I'm all for businesses' right to refuse service (however hypocritical Dems are in this case). But there are serious ethical questions with one of the government's largest cloud contractors (AWS) using the very service they provide to 6,500 government agencies as a tool to censor public information.

A company who profits from LARGE government contracts is susceptible to pressure from the government officials. They aren't exactly acting on purely private goals. The lines between public and private is much more blurry here then in the case of a dude in Lakewood baking cakes.

Correct.

Control the media


Control the message.

[hollohas]

Correct.

Control the media


Control the message.Step #1 in the regime change handbook.

[ChickNorris]

This is getting NUTS.

McAuliffe nuts or?

; -)

[Great-Kazoo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SicsQervb4

[Gman]

This is getting NUTS.

Been heading towards nuts for a while now. People are now noticing the noose around their necks as it begins to tighten.

[GilpinGuy]

Last night my whole Emergency Notifications page was gray and I couldn't change anything. Now it's back to normal. Maybe they thought better of this. There's some funky shit going on.

[Ah Pook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sIQwemrN1Q

[Scanker19]

Get with Amazon. Cancel everything, demand refunds, tell them why.

[MrPrena]

It will be extremely difficult for average consumer to substitute amazon.
I do sell on fbm platform, but I do not buy from amazon.

Only reason is that I have Amazon as leverage just in case ebay goes next level stupid.

[DFBrews]

Here is a list of people that use AWS

Aon, Adobe, Airbnb, Alcatel-Lucent, AOL, Acquia, AdRoll, AEG, Alert Logic, Autodesk, Bitdefender, BMW, British Gas, Baidu, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Canon, Capital One, Channel 4, Chef, Citrix, Coinbase, Comcast, Coursera, Disney, Docker, Dow Jones, European Space Agency, ESPN, Expedia, Financial Times, FINRA, General Electric, GoSquared, Guardian News & Media, Harvard Medical School, Hearst Corporation, Hitachi, HTC, IMDb, International Centre for Radio Astronomy Research, International Civil Aviation Organization, ITV, iZettle, Johnson & Johnson, JustGiving, JWT, Kaplan, Kellogg’s, Lamborghini, Lonely Planet, Lyft, Made.com, McDonalds, NASA, NASDAQ OMX, National Rail Enquiries, National Trust, Netflix, News International, News UK, Nokia, Nordstrom, Novartis, Pfizer, Philips, Pinterest, Quantas, Reddit, Sage, Samsung, SAP, Schneider Electric, Scribd, Securitas Direct, Siemens, Slack, Sony, SoundCloud, Spotify, Square Enix, Tata Motors, The Weather Company, Twitch, Turner Broadcasting,Ticketmaster, Time Inc., Trainline, Ubisoft, UCAS, Unilever, US Department of State, USDA Food and Nutrition Service, UK Ministry of Justice, Vodafone Italy, WeTransfer, WIX, Xiaomi, Yelp, Zynga and Zillow.

[Gman]

That is a partial list. I know a past Fortune 250 employer of mine that uses it, and they're not on there.

[MrPrena]

Here is a list of people that use AWS

Aon, Adobe, Airbnb, Alcatel-Lucent, AOL, Acquia, AdRoll, AEG, Alert Logic, Autodesk, Bitdefender, BMW, British Gas, Baidu, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Canon, Capital One, Channel 4, Chef, Citrix, Coinbase, Comcast, Coursera, Disney, Docker, Dow Jones, European Space Agency, ESPN, Expedia, Financial Times, FINRA, General Electric, GoSquared, Guardian News & Media, Harvard Medical School, Hearst Corporation, Hitachi, HTC, IMDb, International Centre for Radio Astronomy Research, International Civil Aviation Organization, ITV, iZettle, Johnson & Johnson, JustGiving, JWT, Kaplan, Kellogg?s, Lamborghini, Lonely Planet, Lyft, Made.com, McDonalds, NASA, NASDAQ OMX, National Rail Enquiries, National Trust, Netflix, News International, News UK, Nokia, Nordstrom, Novartis, Pfizer, Philips, Pinterest, Quantas, Reddit, Sage, Samsung, SAP, Schneider Electric, Scribd, Securitas Direct, Siemens, Slack, Sony, SoundCloud, Spotify, Square Enix, Tata Motors, The Weather Company, Twitch, Turner Broadcasting,Ticketmaster, Time Inc., Trainline, Ubisoft, UCAS, Unilever, US Department of State, USDA Food and Nutrition Service, UK Ministry of Justice, Vodafone Italy, WeTransfer, WIX, Xiaomi, Yelp, Zynga and Zillow.


That is a partial list. I know a past Fortune 250 employer of mine that uses it, and they're not on there.


Yup.

Not to mention those people buy amazon returns and platforms who sells "new refurbished" "like new" "new open box" on ebay, etsy's, poshmark, offerup, facebook market place, and craigslist.
Probably have to buy things from Montgomery Ward , Woolworth.


Large caps and billionaire controls economy due to stricter policies and restrictions.
[flamingo]

[fitz19d]

I think I'd posted this, but very poignant and I think on the nose for current events.

"“You must bake the cake, but we retain the right to ban you for your beliefs” and “Our violence is speech, but your speech is violence” are the current postures of the corporate and cultural overlords who view Waco and Ruby Ridge not so much as travesties but as starting points.""

[hollohas]

AWS is used by 6,500 government agencies. It's impossible to boycott.

[Gman]

Funded by your tax dollars.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I have no dilemma about this. Apple and Google and others certainly have the right to conduct business with whom they wish. They do NOT have the right to unilaterally break contracts. They do NOT have the right to defame any person or company absent any evidence.

Consumers should be aware of when the companies they do business with apply different standards.

[Eric P]

The issue I have is that they were granted immunity from what others post on thier platforms, which allows them to go basically uncensored. If these platform feel the need to become a censor/publisher of content, those protections should be revoked, as they are now determining what is posted vs allowing free speech.

And when they start censoring political speech from any elected US politician or opposing candidate, they should fall under the same FCC regulations broadcaster and cable TV fall under.

[brutal]

The issue I have is that they were granted immunity from what others post on thier platforms, which allows them to go basically uncensored. If these platform feel the need to become a censor/publisher of content, those protections should be revoked, as they are now determining what is posted vs allowing free speech.

And when they start censoring political speech from any elected US politician or opposing candidate, they should fall under the same FCC regulations broadcaster and cable TV fall under.

Exactly. I don't understand why everyone can't understand this.

You're either a "platform" under section 230, or you are a publisher if you censor content.

[GilpinGuy]

https://youtu.be/8SicsQervb4

[GilpinGuy]

Parler still up. Was supposed to go down at 2am EST. We'll see...

[GilpinGuy]

Its down now. Incredible times.

[hurley842002]

Its down now. Incredible times.

Yup just tried to get on, this is crazy!


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[roberth]

This isn't crazy.

This is communism.

[FoxtArt]

The primary issue with this that I have is it is clearly monopolistic. Parler was the #1 downloaded* app and a potential future competitor. Bottom line is, it serves their bottom line to terminate competition in its infancy. Clearly, that is the biggest factor in its termination since small apps are ignored.

[Westy]

So we have all just moved to Communist China

[roberth]

Could Google block access to this website through Chrome?

Comcast is part of the cabal, I use Comcast and I could absolutely see them blocking websites at the ISP.

[hollohas]

Could Google block access to this website through Chrome?

Comcast is part of the cabal, I use Comcast and I could absolutely see them blocking websites at the ISP.Firefox has announced they have plans to do this exactly ^. Even if website does have friendly web servers, they will just censor via web browser.

[EDIT to add link]

https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/08/we-need-more-than-deplatforming/


We Need More Than Deplatforming

[sportbikeco]

None of those action items are browser related. Browsers are not really the place to block content, now an ISP would be an effective place to implement some sort of block but could be worked around with VPN.

[KAPA]

Someone help me out with the argument that a private company should not be allowed to do this as it relates to section 230.

I mean conservatives are not a protected class.

[roberth]

Someone help me out with the argument that a private company should not be allowed to do this as it relates to section 230.

I mean conservatives are not a protected class.

You'll get no argument from me, I am a private property supporter.

BUT

I paid good money to the ISP for access to the internet, will the ISP rewrite the terms of the contract to include "we can deny access to any website that our communist overlords think is subversive.".

ALSO

You will notice there are plenty of communist gun owners on this board, they'll lose their access to this website as well. Of course, it shouldn't matter to them since they'll be turning their guns in anyway.

[CS1983]

I no longer buy the argument that internet qua access is a private property issue. It might have private players in the game, but it's a utility by any comparative metric of use as water, electricity, POTS, etc. I'm fully on board with the idea that it's a utility. It's a fallacy to believe that say, comcast or centurylink, own every inch of copper or fiber from their origination of service to the local POP. They simply don't, and my time in a .gov/.mil NOC saw plenty of times where they had to wait on other vendors to fix an issue. I could buy that their company-specific apps and such are property, but the service, i.e., access itself? I find that hard to argue these days, especially when internet access, per the left, is a predictor and facilitator of economic mobility, equalization of class and race, etc.

[Alpha2]

Gab has their own browser, it's called Dissenter. They are a bit overwhelmed right now, but hustling to catch up to the 10,000 new users per hour they're seeing.
Also, I've worked for a few dental supply companies that were NOT allowed to refuse to do business with customers who were legally in business, and as long as we were putting ourselves out there as a dental supplier. No matter how big a jackwagon they were, we couldn't tell them we wouldn't do business with them. We could tell them we'd see them in about 6 months, unless we had a better customer call in the mean time.

[TFOGGER]

If I was trying to block content, I'd do it at the DNS server level. If you can't resolve the IP address to a URL, most people are going to be dead in the water...

And guess whop hosts the majority of DNS servers...rhymes with Boogle...

[bradbn4]

If I was trying to block content, I'd do it at the DNS server level. If you can't resolve the IP address to a URL, most people are going to be dead in the water...

And guess whop hosts the majority of DNS servers...rhymes with Boogle...

It is easy to work around DNS services; esp if you have Pi-Hole setup as an example. The hard part is to maintain a current IP to DNS relationship. With Pi-hole you can add a handful of domain mapping which is useful to get easy access to local services that you don't want on the internet (directly).

At one time I remember getting instructions on how to download a file that contains all of the long name to IP address updates.

You could even use IRC chat to provide re-mapping of access to sites that by pass DNS and let the IP address float. Not sure how pirate bay does it; but that sort of thing could be done.

[OctopusHighball]

You'll get no argument from me, I am a private property supporter.

BUT

I paid good money to the ISP for access to the internet, will the ISP rewrite the terms of the contract to include "we can deny access to any website that our communist overlords think is subversive.".

ALSO

You will notice there are plenty of communist gun owners on this board, they'll lose their access to this website as well. Of course, it shouldn't matter to them since they'll be turning their guns in anyway.

It's the same logic that says you must bake a cake with any message for anyone who walks in the door.

Or is that logic only one way these days?

[clodhopper]

It's the same logic that says you must bake a cake with any message for anyone who walks in the door.

Or is that logic only one way these days?


Well, keep in mind that the cake wasnt a completed transaction at the time the baker refused to do it. Payment and contract were not in place. Here we are talking about existing service, with terms of service that has been paid. So a little different. Remember, the people the ISPs are cutting off are not doing anything recently that they werent doing before when it was supposedly ok.

I would also agree with a previous post that the ISP is more aligned with the idea of a utility. We haven't grouped them into the utility industry probably because the internet is new and rapidly changing and it takes someone to challenge things in court for laws to change. This may be event that pushes ISPs into a different realm of service responsibility.

[BlasterBob]

One of these days, an electric power supply company will attempt to turn off power to anyone suspected of committing a certain crime. That’s the way it is starting to look. [Sarcasm2][blaster]

[roberth]

One of these days, an electric power supply company will attempt to turn off power to anyone suspected of committing a certain crime. That’s the way it is starting to look. [Sarcasm2][blaster]

That's exactly what will happen.

I don't think some of you people understand what the communists will do, the breadth and depth of their depravity knows no bounds. Lenin/Stalin stood their "useful idiots" against a wall and shot them in the head, what do you think they did to people like me.

[Scanker19]

One of these days, an electric power supply company will attempt to turn off power to anyone suspected of committing a certain crime. That?s the way it is starting to look. [Sarcasm2][blaster]

Yeah about that....

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53680761

[roberth]

Yeah about that....

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53680761

Exactly. They isolated the homes where people were doing things the gov't didn't like....and shut off the power.

Anyone that thinks the communists won't turn off your power for being on COAR15 is a fucking moron.

[brutal]

Exactly. They isolated the homes where people were doing things the gov't didn't like....and shut off the power.

Anyone that thinks the communists won't turn off your power for being on COAR15 is a fucking moron.

My signature can only hold so many quotes...

[brutal]

So I just saw a FB post that the "other" AR site has been booted off GoDaddy and is down...

[Bailey Guns]

So I just saw a FB post that the "other" AR site has been booted off GoDaddy and is down...

Well, then, just in case, better say it now while I have a chance...

It's been fun being a member here for many years...so long now.

[roberth]

I Now Better Understand the 'Good German' - Dennis Prager

https://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2021/01/05/i-now-better-understand-the-good-german-n2582563


One of the biggest revelations concerns a question that has always plagued me: How does one explain the "good German," the term used to describe the average, presumably decent German, who did nothing to hurt Jews but also did nothing to help them and did nothing to undermine the Nazi regime? The same question could be asked about the average Frenchman during the Vichy era, the average Russian under Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Leonid Brezhnev and their successors, and the millions of others who did nothing to help their fellow citizens under oppressive dictatorships.

[FoxtArt]

https://cybernews.com/news/70tb-of-parler-users-messages-videos-and-posts-leaked-by-security-researchers/

[00tec]

Idaho ISP blocked Facebook and Twitter

https://www.krem.com/amp/article/news/local/idaho-internet-provider-blocks-facebook-and-twitter/293-867cc22b-fb90-4142-a296-8d800d2a03fb

[Bailey Guns]

Idaho ISP blocked Facebook and Twitter

https://www.krem.com/amp/article/news/local/idaho-internet-provider-blocks-facebook-and-twitter/293-867cc22b-fb90-4142-a296-8d800d2a03fb

That article is just full of irony...

[GilpinGuy]

That article is just full of irony...

Yeah, fighting censorship with censorship. Hmmm.

[OtterbatHellcat]

I heard stocks for the oppressive service providers tanked today.

[TEAMRICO]

I heard stocks for the oppressive service providers tanked today.

Oof! Did they think folks would stick around to be treated like shit? You crap on the folks who made you rich and they will flee. No users, no money from advertising, angry investors and so on.
They are headed for AOL and MySpace status.
Trump kept them alive, he had 80 million followers? GONE.

[GilpinGuy]

I heard stocks for the oppressive service providers tanked today.

There was something about Twatter dropping significantly. But their ideology obviously trumps that. (Pun intended)

[sroz]

Just out of curiosity, has anyone dropped Facebook, Twitter, others?

I've never used any of them, but use this forum, beretta forum and have an email account. I have always tried to limit my online exposure. Just seems that once we buy into social media it must be very difficult to drop them and give them up completely. At that point it doesn't matter what they do that angers you as you will not walk away from them. Once they get you hooked on their product or service they have won. Especially since there are not many alternatives for you to switch to.

Btw, not judging anyone. Just makes sense to me that it would be extremely difficult to walk away.

[Scanker19]

Yeah, fighting censorship with censorship. Hmmm.


https://youtu.be/30chNFGI-_s

[.455_Hunter]

I don't have have any of the YouTwitFace accounts, but do view other people and organization's postings. During the recent fires, many updates were first available on local government twitter accounts before being disseminated to other media.

[GilpinGuy]

I only have Fakebook and Twatter accounts for work and only engage with users with that when necessary, of course.

Since our government has deemed me unworthy of supporting myself by working I have not been allowed to engage in such activities.

[FoxtArt]

https://fee.org/articles/facebook-suspends-ron-paul-following-column-criticizing-big-tech-censorship/?fbclid=IwAR3gu6DutVlensjx_wL4Dl5wBybeX6mfZKCTacGA LKNAtIOlkwUmZG2rnms

Ron Paul blocked for those who haven't already caught wind of it here. More details on the above link. Ironically it appears he was blocked for posting an article about facebook excessively censoring people.

Also specific sub forums of reddit have apparently been removed as well, at least one trump-related one, possibly more.

[bradbn4]

And when you don't have water, or electrical provided by them; they will condemn the house as unfit. I have seen some stories in the past about folks living off grid and in town that the local Gov did not approve of.

[hollohas]

People tell me Twitter has a responsibility to their share holders so that's why they HAD to purge...

Then I show them that Twitter lost something like $5B in value in the last few days. How's that for looking out for shareholders.

[KAPA]

I deleted my twitter account of 7 years or so. Only had 900 followers and lost about 50 over the last week or so.

Keeping facebook but removed everyone except for close family. I have too many photos on there i want access to. They rely off traffic and if u stop following everyone you've ever met and all the groups, you reduce your traffic footprint there drastically which hurts their bottom line.

Amazon is the tough one as it saves me so much time. Need an alternative! Maybe walmart?

[Great-Kazoo]

Yeah, fighting censorship with censorship. Hmmm.

Yet the irony is this statement. From of al places, a state that allows rampant rioting and disregard for the business owners who have suffered.

A spokesperson for Washington Gov. Jay Inslee's office said the attorney general's Consumer Protection Division was "taking a look at the matter." Brionna Aho, a spokesperson for Attorney General Bob Ferguson, said he takes enforcement of the net neutrality law "very seriously."

[sroz]

I deleted my twitter account of 7 years or so. Only had 900 followers and lost about 50 over the last week or so.

Keeping facebook but removed everyone except for close family. I have too many photos on there i want access to. They rely off traffic and if u stop following everyone you've ever met and all the groups, you reduce your traffic footprint there drastically which hurts their bottom line.

Amazon is the tough one as it saves me so much time. Need an alternative! Maybe walmart?

Sounds like you've already given this a significant amount of thought and come up with a solution that reflects your dissatisfaction and still meets your needs. I agree that Amazon is likely the toughest one. I do not personally use them, but my household certainly does and they get a fair amount of our money.

[Mtneer]

Amazon is the tough one as it saves me so much time. Need an alternative! Maybe walmart?

At least designate the Second Amendment Foundation for your AmazonSmile donation.

[Osmosis]

FYI: Parler apparently scrapped.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/01/parlers-amateur-coding-could-come-back-to-haunt-capitol-hill-rioters/

We live in a world that is increasingly at the mercy of crappy and untested software (Boeing, Solarwinds, Sony). Just one more thought to ruin your day....

[GilpinGuy]

FYI: Parler apparently scrapped.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/01/parlers-amateur-coding-could-come-back-to-haunt-capitol-hill-rioters/


I thought this was debunked as a hoax already. Could be wrong though - there's a lot going on these days.

[Osmosis]

I thought this was debunked as a hoax already. Could be wrong though - there's a lot going on these days.

Good point. However I saw Gizmodo has GPS data they claim came from Parler so at this point I would wager someone did in fact get something...
https://gizmodo.com/parler-users-breached-deep-inside-u-s-capitol-building-1846042905

[brutal]

Good point. However I saw Gizmodo has GPS data they claim came from Parler so at this point I would wager someone did in fact get something...
https://gizmodo.com/parler-users-breached-deep-inside-u-s-capitol-building-1846042905

There are so many irritating accusations and gaslighting in that article it's sickening.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Gizmodo and Ars Technica are so bent politically they make Gordian’s Knot look like a steel I-beam. I find Ars Technica useful for computer issues (except those with a political spin like “net neutrality”) or leveraging many minds in research but that’s it. It’s hilarious how many people can handle Boolean logic but can’t or won’t apply logic, inductive reasoning, or just plain consistency in politico-social arguments.

[hollohas]

I don't know how many here frequent it but American Partisan is a great website. Their forum just got nuked by the host (Proboards I think?).

American Partisan isn't exactly high profile or high priority as a purge target, but there ya go.

The purge is going to reach far and wide.

https://www.americanpartisan.org/

[brutal]

Gizmodo and Ars Technica are so bent politically they make Gordian?s Knot look like a steel I-beam. I find Ars Technica useful for computer issues (except those with a political spin like ?net neutrality?) or leveraging many minds in research but that?s it. It?s hilarious how many people can handle Boolean logic but can?t or won?t apply logic, inductive reasoning, or just plain consistency in politico-social arguments.I feel that way about 99.9% of reddit too. Bunch of basement dwelling zit faced antifa wannabes.

[Great-Kazoo]

I don't know how many here frequent it but American Partisan is a great website. Their forum just got nuked by the host (Proboards I think?).

American Partisan isn't exactly high profile or high priority as a purge target, but there ya go.

The purge is going to reach far and wide.

https://www.americanpartisan.org/

On a side note. I'm seeing more TRUMP flags around town. More So, than before the election.
The few BIDEN 2020 folks who finally had the spine to post their flags and banners. AFTER the election. Took them down, just as fast.

I imagine i'll start seeing a lot of, NOT MY PRESIDENT & RESIST paraphernalia, soon.

[RblDiver]

I feel that way about 99.9% of reddit too. Bunch of basement dwelling zit faced antifa wannabes.

Reddit's a joke. They ban you for anything "promoting violence," self-defense included.

[GilpinGuy]

Twitter gets censored in Uganda and bitches about it. [LOL]

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/01/12/308779-n308779

[FoxtArt]

I did see that the founder of piratebay called out Parler just for sake of lacking resilience. He had a point... TPB was founded by teenagers on a shoestring and still hasn't been shut down in two decades with the whole world after it (except asia, perhaps).

Contrast that to Parler is suing AWS for resolution when they should have had their own private cloud and at least warm site disaster plans since they had decent funding. There are also many countries that are entirely friendly to it as pointed out by TPB. Wtf are they using a public cloud model for in the first place? While the censoring couldn't have been anticipated, you don't try to build a competitor to companies within their own public cloud, and you don't make big social sites within a public cloud anyway. It's like trying to start Amazon from a stand on WalMarts parking lot.

Note, this is not in any way agreeing with the censoring. Just from the info I've been seeing, it doesn't appear they have been doing it "right" and don't plan to. If they ever come back, I'd expect hacks and data leaks to be a regular occurrence.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I think the difference is that TPB knew what they were doing was illegal so planned against the idea of the authorities pursuing them. What Parler was doing was completely legal and they likely felt AWS was one of the most resilient cloud options available to them. Amazon doesn't own Twitter (yet) so the naive could argue that Amazon taking steps to undercut a competitor to Twitter was unexpected. What AWS did was a breach of contract. Unfortunately, I'll bet Bezos can afford more and better lawyers than Parler can so it will be a tough fight even though Amazon's breach was blatant and obviously founded on nonsense. Anyone who looks at the situation can see that the real reason for AWS to do this was likely to ensure public discourse continued to be locked into Twitter, who lost an incredible number of subscribers (and shareholder value) in the month following the election.

I will admit that I've been watching the MSM and technorati shading the truth and then flat-out lying for years but I didn't expect such full-blown censorship and regressive Stalinist repression tactics, especially all within a few days. Facebook and Twitter have turned into the 21st century version of Pravda and YouTube is quickly following suit.

[Eric P]

And yesterday keybase deleted all gun related forums, and the repository of 3d printable firearms.

[GilpinGuy]

Some good news from Parler:
https://parler.com/


Parler chief executive officer John Matze is "confident" that his social media platform will be back online in the near future after his team was able to launch a static website and recover the company’s data over the weekend in a series of positive developments.

"I’m confident that by the end of the month, we’ll be back up," Matze told Fox News during a telephone interview on Sunday night.

[dmeis]

Under Facebook settings you can actually download a zip file with all of your pics and videos. Then you can delete your account. I was tired of the biased propaganda and negative false news.

[GilpinGuy]

Parler is back up.