View Full Version : The Hate just keeps on coming
Great-Kazoo
01-12-2021, 21:57
4+ years of trying to oust trump and once again, they're backkkkkkkkkkkk
https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/11221-0?fbclid=IwAR0uInlwArkL-Jbbc9W4h8HBN6sQ1XxKL4dHqvP8_VWjAFVAcBxg_fP8cZ4
hollohas
01-12-2021, 22:00
4+ years of trying to oust trump and once again, they're backkkkkkkkkkkk
https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/11221-0?fbclid=IwAR0uInlwArkL-Jbbc9W4h8HBN6sQ1XxKL4dHqvP8_VWjAFVAcBxg_fP8cZ4Well , that's sure a ragtag bunch of douchebags. Didn't one of those pieces of garbage get frisky with a Chinese spy?
Great-Kazoo
01-12-2021, 22:16
Well, that's sure a ragtag bunch of douchebags. Didn't one of those pieces of garbage get frisky with a Chinese spy?
I did not have sexual relations with that woman.
Oh wait wrong democrat, sorry
SwallowsWell does Fang Fang
BPTactical
01-12-2021, 22:25
2 Colorado fucks on that list.
This state is embarrassing
They probably won't get it done before the 20th.
OtterbatHellcat
01-12-2021, 23:25
There aren't enough footballs for these monkeys.
They probably won't get it done before the 20th.
They can still impeach him after leaving office for "high crimes and misdemeanors" committed while in office.
Seems the GOP is starting to get on board and Trump has now become toxic to the party, they want to keep him from running in 24.
tactical_2012
01-13-2021, 02:33
They can still impeach him after leaving office for "high crimes and misdemeanors" committed while in office.
Seems the GOP is starting to get on board and Trump has now become toxic to the party, they want to keep him from running in 24.
I have read that constitution scholars have debated this issue and it would be up to the Supreme Court to decide
https://constitutioncenter.org/amp/blog/can-president-trump-be-impeached-after-he-leaves-office
Aloha_Shooter
01-13-2021, 04:19
They can still impeach him after leaving office for "high crimes and misdemeanors" committed while in office.
Seems the GOP is starting to get on board and Trump has now become toxic to the party, they want to keep him from running in 24.
No, they can’t. People claiming it’s a possibility are letting their partisanship overwhelm their reason or scholarship. The Founding Fathers were very clear that they thought a criminal indictment against a sitting President was problematic to say the least. The mechanism of impeachment is purely to remove said Chief Executive. It’s not a criminal trial, although it should use the same standards of evidence. If said person is out of office, impeachment is irrelevant and invalid.
I think the Dems are going down this road to besmirch Trump because they know they’d lose in court if they tried actual criminal charges. With impeachment, they can have a standard-less kangaroo court like they did the first time around. We’ve already seen Kamala has no compunction about using the legal system against people she knew were innocent.
Zundfolge
01-13-2021, 08:08
I suspect 3 things are going on here.
1) Pathological hatred. They just hate him so much.
2) The theory that this will preclude him from running for office again.
3) (the one nobody is talking about) His impeachment and conviction will be used as a pretext to impeach all the judges he's appointed (SCOTUS on down). And a pretext to outlaw "MAGAism/Trumpism" by removing it as speech protected by the 1st Amendment)
clodhopper
01-13-2021, 09:57
No, they can’t. People claiming it’s a possibility are letting their partisanship overwhelm their reason or scholarship. The Founding Fathers were very clear that they thought a criminal indictment against a sitting President was problematic to say the least. The mechanism of impeachment is purely to remove said Chief Executive. It’s not a criminal trial, although it should use the same standards of evidence. If said person is out of office, impeachment is irrelevant and invalid.
From a purely legal point of view, you are correct. No president has been impeached after they left office and there is no stipulation in the rules that says he can be. However, rules are only rules if both sides agree to follow them. Pelosi and her team have proven over and over that they will push the rules, and even ignore them, if doing so supports their cause. And there has been little to no pushback on these actions by the republicans. So the rule violation stands. If a violation of the rules is not disputed and later judged/remedied, it becomes the new rule. The supreme court has already shown they dont want to take up anything this political. So if Pelosi ignores the rules, submits impeachment after Jan 20 and the House votes for it (you know they would), what happens next? It goes to the Senate, where they would now have the advantage and Trump might actually lose (not sure how many senate democrats are fully on board like the House). The republicans can dispute it, the democrats can ignore them, the Supremes will run and hide, the MSM will be filling the citizens ears with how bad/evil Trump is and people will just want it all to end and call the senators to just let it end. From there forward, the precedent will be set and presidents can be impeached after they leave office. Does it matter, technically, being impeached? Again, according to rules, probably not much other than preventing him from running again (disputed, but I havent heard/seen otherwise). Regardless, even if he could run again, he is damaged goods and all the MSM will do his hype that he was found guilty, so will never be a good candidate after that.
The democrats have been bypassing rules/expectations for a long while now and because no one can hold their feet to the fire on any of it, it all stands. With the momentum they have right now, I see no reason for it to change.
BushMasterBoy
01-13-2021, 10:04
OP's link won't load for me.
colorider
01-13-2021, 10:04
I may be in the minority with my opinion, but Trump and his family need to stay away in 2024. Far away. The Trump name has become toxic beyond repair. The hatred for Trump is too strong. He or any part of his family has zero chance at presidency for quite a while.
clodhopper
01-13-2021, 10:04
OP's link won't load for me.
same.
BushMasterBoy
01-13-2021, 10:17
My opinion is Trump is history. His business empire is crumbling and his reputation is severely tarnished.
BushMasterBoy
01-13-2021, 11:53
I am advising anyone going to disrupt the inauguration, to stay home. It could be extremely hazardous to your health.
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Great-Kazoo
01-13-2021, 12:23
OP's link won't load for me.
same.
looks like the media is removing anything related to the house vote to impeach. For the moment.
SSChameleon
01-13-2021, 12:28
While Trump was president, his supporters attacked congress and bludgeoned a police officer to death with a fire extinguisher. Trump needs to go.
BPTactical
01-13-2021, 12:32
While Trump was president, his supporters attacked congress and bludgeoned a police officer to death with a fire extinguisher. Trump needs to go.
Your a Special one aren't you?
My opinion is Trump is history. His business empire is crumbling and his reputation is severely tarnished.
His business was crumbling EVEN BEFORE he was a presidential candidate.
Taj fuking thing bankrupted more than once. Over leveraged properties.
Funniest part was his Taj hotel got bankrupted even during his reality TV show was running with free ad. LoL.
Suckered.
BushMasterBoy
01-13-2021, 13:21
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BushMasterBoy
01-13-2021, 13:24
looks like the media is removing anything related to the house vote to impeach. For the moment.
The link is .gov owned. I'm sure the media has no control over it. Maybe some IT experts will explain?
While Trump was president, his supporters attacked congress and bludgeoned a police officer to death with a fire extinguisher. Trump needs to go.
And chanted for the death of his VP!
Could not agree more. Recent events show he is not fit for the job.
If he had taken the job, and the needs of the country, seriously he would have easily beat Biden. Republicans won down ballot races in the same districts where he lost simply because of his repulsive and stupid behavior. They talked 'jobs over mobs' and won, but instead he gave us 'votes don't count'* and shout-outs to Q. I just hope that very important lesson isn't lost in all the noise and recrimination.
As far as the censorship goes, that sucks for now, but the blow back will be for the best. Lots of lefties know this isn't good because in short order it will be used against them. This is the event needed to justify the breakup of the tech monopolies.
Let the hate come - who cares. The last election proved there is a majority of people who recognize we are the losers of 'free trade', tired of being the worlds policeman, fed up of being hectored by the Woke, think borders matter, can't be bothered to keep updating their intersectionality chart, and just want a government that cares about their health and financial security. Find a candidate that can provide that, but without the vicious pathological narcissism, and all the hate it engenders won't matter a bit.
* Seriously, who expects to get people to vote for them when they say it doesn't count? WTF!
BushMasterBoy
01-13-2021, 13:29
Link below works. I hope I don't get forced back to active duty.
https://www.speaker.gov/
Singlestack
01-13-2021, 14:13
And chanted for the death of his VP!
Could not agree more. Recent events show he is not fit for the job.
If he had taken the job, and the needs of the country, seriously he would have easily beat Biden. Republicans won down ballot races in the same districts where he lost simply because of his repulsive and stupid behavior. They talked 'jobs over mobs' and won, but instead he gave us 'votes don't count'* and shout-outs to Q. I just hope that very important lesson isn't lost in all the noise and recrimination.
As far as the censorship goes, that sucks for now, but the blow back will be for the best. Lots of lefties know this isn't good because in short order it will be used against them. This is the event needed to justify the breakup of the tech monopolies.
Let the hate come - who cares. The last election proved there is a majority of people who recognize we are the losers of 'free trade', tired of being the worlds policeman, fed up of being hectored by the Woke, think borders matter, can't be bothered to keep updating their intersectionality chart, and just want a government that cares about their health and financial security. Find a candidate that can provide that, but without the vicious pathological narcissism, and all the hate it engenders won't matter a bit.
* Seriously, who expects to get people to vote for them when they say it doesn't count? WTF!
Lots of lefties know this isn't good because in short order it will be used against them. This is the event needed to justify the breakup of the tech monopolies.
I strongly disagree. The Left, which includes the Dems, the media, the deep state, big tech, academia... is drunk on power and is having fever dreams about flexing their fist even more. None of them are worried right now about it being used against them, because they know they now control all of the levers of power and can do what they want, including/especially illegally, and there will be no pushback. Also, are you serious about those in/going into power now breaking up the tech monopolies? Do you know how many millions of dollars big tech has given to the dems? They are in lockstep and working hand in hand. Whats more, the dems would not ALLOW the tech monopolies to be broken up, since it hurts their self-interest.
We have literally seen widespread corruption of those in power, and that includes republicans and many in our courts.
There absolutely MUST be escalating violence at this point because the left won't have it any other way. All of us will be made to care, even if we don't now. They will continue to illegally overreach until they receive resistance. Im not advocating for violence, but I also believe that is what the left wants, and they will get it. Just a matter of when and how it unfolds.
TEAMRICO
01-13-2021, 14:49
And so starts the division on this site.......
Choose sides folks.
And so starts the division on this site.......
Choose sides folks.
Maybe we have som ANTIFAGS here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xJkUyotSc4
Some people gets worked up on being Trump Fantard and hatetard.
Conserve your systolic pressure and chill...
Getting worked up on being those is fine. It was like this shit since 1992 Clinton admin.
What else is new?
I think HW era was when it was least divided
Aloha_Shooter
01-13-2021, 15:06
I really hate this because the uninformed and intentionally blind are making me look and sound like a Trump supporter and defender when I've detested him since the 80s.
His business was crumbling EVEN BEFORE he was a presidential candidate.
Taj fuking thing bankrupted more than once. Over leveraged properties.
Funniest part was his Taj hotel got bankrupted even during his reality TV show was running with free ad. LoL.
Suckered.
You are completely missing the fact that Trump uses bankruptcy like we might use a crescent wrench. He has had several of his businesses declare bankruptcy on multiple occasions as a way to manage cash flow and capital assets. I hate it but that's a far cry from his business crumbling. I've never understood why banks gave him loans given his track record but I suppose he made it a priority to pay them back what he owed while he screwed his general contractors and suppliers.
While Trump was president, his supporters attacked congress and bludgeoned a police officer to death with a fire extinguisher. Trump needs to go.
I don't know if you're trying to be ironic or what. This sounds like something Don Lemon or Joe Scarborough would come up with.
And chanted for the death of his VP!
Could not agree more. Recent events show he is not fit for the job.
If he had taken the job, and the needs of the country, seriously he would have easily beat Biden. Republicans won down ballot races in the same districts where he lost simply because of his repulsive and stupid behavior. They talked 'jobs over mobs' and won, but instead he gave us 'votes don't count'* and shout-outs to Q. I just hope that very important lesson isn't lost in all the noise and recrimination.
As far as the censorship goes, that sucks for now, but the blow back will be for the best. Lots of lefties know this isn't good because in short order it will be used against them. This is the event needed to justify the breakup of the tech monopolies.
Let the hate come - who cares. The last election proved there is a majority of people who recognize we are the losers of 'free trade', tired of being the worlds policeman, fed up of being hectored by the Woke, think borders matter, can't be bothered to keep updating their intersectionality chart, and just want a government that cares about their health and financial security. Find a candidate that can provide that, but without the vicious pathological narcissism, and all the hate it engenders won't matter a bit.
* Seriously, who expects to get people to vote for them when they say it doesn't count? WTF!
A lot to unpack here but the evidence is that he did take the job seriously and that he targeted actions to get to things he thought were important -- fix the increasing leftward bias of the federal courts, take steps toward securing the borders, pull out of unending involvement overseas, making our allies pay their fair share for mutual defense, etc. It's fair to say you and others don't agree with his priorities but despite my personal animas against him, I'd have to say he took it seriously.
Winning the election when the Left has spent years on tactics to control information throughout the country and to manufacture votes when and where they want them is a whole other matter. He did turn a lot of people off by the way he pursued things but a lot of the repulsion was generated by the way his acts were reported rather than what he actually said or did. We've all seen how the mass media has twisted everything he's said and done. The Left thought they'd knock him out in 2016 but didn't realize how he was using Twitter to get around the mainstream media -- they did this past year or two and have been working to effectively counter him (and now, not only silence him but cancel anyone they can claim is associated with him).
Your last paragraph just makes no sense. If anything, Trump was the one in DC who was pushing to renegotiate trade agreements, pull out of being the world's policemen, etc. but you're saying he wasn't fit for the job. That is a complete and utter non-sequitur. Like the Left, you're conflating things like his encouragement for protesting the "irregularities" in the past election with the theft, vandalism, and deaths (even though those were far less in scope than the activities incurred this past summer from "peaceful protests" supported by the liberal elite).
You are completely missing the fact that Trump uses bankruptcy like we might use a crescent wrench. He has had several of his businesses declare bankruptcy on multiple occasions as a way to manage cash flow and capital assets. I hate it but that's a far cry from his business crumbling. I've never understood why banks gave him loans given his track record but I suppose he made it a priority to pay them back what he owed while he screwed his general contractors and suppliers.
Yeah the reason bank gave him a loan is because he over valued his asset. These were well known even before he was running for pres.
Of course Cool aid drinker think that is fake news.
If I LIE to a bank that my tiny little property is $100m to secure $20m loan, I would end up in .....
Yeah the reason bank gave him a loan is because he over valued his asset. These were well known even before he was running for pres.
Of course Cool aid drinker think that is fake news.
If I LIE to a bank that my tiny little property is $100m to secure $20m loan, I would end up in .....
Banks give out multi-million dollar loans without a 3rd party appraisal?
https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+over+exaggerated+asset+on+loan&client=ms-android-boost-us&prmd=niv&sxsrf=ALeKk02S1FzON0QC_qagVzNCA5VXq6R89w:161057425 6618&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZpMzT8JnuAhUeCTQIHWjICicQ_AUIFCgA&biw=360&bih=612&dpr=3
https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+over+exaggerated+asset+on+loan&client=ms-android-boost-us&prmd=niv&sxsrf=ALeKk02S1FzON0QC_qagVzNCA5VXq6R89w:161057425 6618&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZpMzT8JnuAhUeCTQIHWjICicQ_AUIFCgA&biw=360&bih=612&dpr=3
That's not what I asked. Anyone can say anything they want to anyone. The question is would a bank really give out millions of dollars without any verification?
They sure did just before the 2008 crash.
That's not what I asked. Anyone can say anything they want to anyone. The question is would a bank really give out millions of dollars without any verification?
Some bank may some bank may not depends on their cash reserve and rate. Depends on their policies.
My original statement was over inflated asset to secure loan and posted a link.
Martinjmpr
01-13-2021, 16:05
That's not what I asked. Anyone can say anything they want to anyone. The question is would a bank really give out millions of dollars without any verification?
At the level we're talking about, all the regular "rules" go out the window.
There's an old saying I've always liked:
"If you owe the bank Ten Thousand dollars and can't pay, YOU have a problem.
If you owe the bank a Hundred Million Dollars and can't pay - the BANK has a problem."
Some bank may some bank may not depends on their cash reserve and rate. Depends on their policies.
My original statement was over inflated asset to secure loan and posted a link.
Your original statement was:
"Yeah the reason bank gave him a loan is because he over valued his asset. These were well known even before he was running for pres.
Of course Cool aid drinker think that is fake news.
If I LIE to a bank that my tiny little property is $100m to secure $20m loan, I would end up in ....."
Did the bank give him a loan? From the article, no.
Did any bank give him a loan based on overvalued assets? Did any bank do so without 3rd party appraisal/verification?
Values are a weird thing. If we consider market value to be whatever someone will give for X product/service, then why don't we consider loanable value to be whatever a bank would give a loan for, with something as collateral?
At the level we're talking about, all the regular "rules" go out the window.
There's an old saying I've always liked:
"If you owe the bank Ten Thousand dollars and can't pay, YOU have a problem.
If you owe the bank a Hundred Million Dollars and can't pay - the BANK has a problem."
This assumes that a loan has been given. We are talking about the process antecedent to the actual loan.
Not all loans come from banks. Not sure if that applies at that level though.
Just google Donald Trump and loan.
Why making 3 or 4 thread over a fact?
Trump?s Deutsche Bank Loans Appear To Be In Trouble
Dan AlexanderForbes Staff
Billionaires
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/12/02/trumps-deutsche-bank-loans-appear-to-be-in-trouble/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/10/16/donald-trump-has-at-least-1-billion-in-debt-more-than-twice-the-amount-he-suggested/?sh=59b464c04330
https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-boost-us&sxsrf=ALeKk02qIfVELn5HvGQCP7dAHNH0os-Quw%3A1610576408808&ei=GHL_X8jyMISAsQWA0p-wDw&q=Trump%E2%80%99s++Bank+Loans+Appear&oq=Trump%E2%80%99s++Bank+Loans+Appear&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAM6BAgAEEc6Bwg jELACECdQppoBWLChAWDRpAFoAHABeACAAYAEiAGJEJIBCzAuM S40LjAuMS4xmAEAoAEByAEIwAEB&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp#sbfbu=1&pi=Trump%E2%80%99s%20%20Bank%20Loans%20Appear
hollohas
01-13-2021, 16:24
They sure did just before the 2008 crash.That's a different ballgame altogether. And directly related to the gov forcing banks to give home loans to unqualified peeps.
Multi million $ commerical business loans are a totally different animal.
....That is a complete and utter non-sequitur.....
Not at all.
His administration deserves credit and our gratitude for all those initiatives. But he was like having a master plumber come to your house to do great work, but then on the way out the door he screams profanity at your wife and kicks the dog. Now we need a new plumber who can do the same great work but without all the pain.
Different yes but sadly worse with MBS, sub primes, crazy commercial loans.
Other than banks with crazy loans, biggest abuser was AIG and others with issuing crazy amount of Credit default swaps.
I don't know crazy derivatives did significance in 2008 crash but might have done tiny amount? Just a guess.
Sorry that this loan kinda got this topic off track.
What if the whole time he was doing great work, the wife was talking crap and the dog bit him a few times?
BlasterBob
01-13-2021, 16:41
I did not have sexual relations with that woman.
Oh wait wrong democrat, sorry '
I believe that California DINGBAT (Swawell) when being critical of AR15?s, claimed those nasty guns could easily fire over 100 rounds per SECOND. He should have done some fact checking. [blaster]
hollohas
01-13-2021, 16:45
They talked 'jobs over mobs' and won, but instead he gave us 'votes don't count'* and shout-outs to Q.
(Snip)
* Seriously, who expects to get people to vote for them when they say it doesn't count? WTF!
Where were you the last few years? Trump's stump was absolutely 'jobs over mobs. Trump ALWAYS talked about jobs. Damn near every time he spoke to a crowd. He also spent a huge amount of time calling out all the mobs all over the country. For years.
And how can you claim people didn't vote for him because he said it wouldn't count? People DID vote for him in huge numbers. Many more than voted for the beloved Obama either time. The margin of votes Trump got for his 2nd term vs his 1st was the largest increase ever. More minorities voted for him than any Republican in decades. You can't seriously say with a straight face that people stayed home and didn't vote because he said it wouldn't count. That's regurgitated political pundit nonsense. The reality is Trump generated the biggest republican turnout in history.
TEAMRICO
01-13-2021, 17:09
Not at all.
His administration deserves credit and our gratitude for all those initiatives. But he was like having a master plumber come to your house to do great work, but then on the way out the door he screams profanity at your wife and kicks the dog. Now we need a new plumber who can do the same great work but without all the pain.
You gonna call Joe the plumber?
TEAMRICO
01-13-2021, 17:10
What if the whole time he was doing great work, the wife was talking crap and the dog bit him a few times?
That was awesome!
Perfect metaphor!
TEAMRICO
01-13-2021, 17:12
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I believe that California DINGBAT (Swawell) when being critical of AR15?s, claimed those nasty guns could easily fire over 100 rounds per SECOND. He should have done some fact checking. [blaster]
To busy banging Fang Fang to do research.
BushMasterBoy
01-13-2021, 17:29
Trump has been impeached twice. If convicted, he can lose his pension. Maybe all the benefits, I don't know.
"The Constitution requires a two-thirds vote of the Senate to convict, and the penalty for an impeached official upon conviction is removal from office. In some cases, the Senate has also disqualified such officials from holding public offices in the future. There is no appeal."
Quoted from www.senate.gov
Multi million $ commerical business loans are a totally different animal.
Maybe. I don't think they are as different as people imagine that they are.
hollohas
01-13-2021, 17:46
Trump has been impeached twice. If convicted, he can lose his pension. Maybe all the benefits, I don't know.
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I was wondering how it would effect his s.s. detail if convicted.
But he won't be. The Senate isn't going to reconvene until 1/19.
TresMonos
01-13-2021, 18:02
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TEAMRICO
01-13-2021, 18:05
Those fucking people are fucking evil.
They won’t stop. What chance does anyone have?
They do not have the best interest of the country. PERIOD!
What if the whole time he was doing great work, the lying, cheating, whore wife was talking crap and the rabid dog bit him a few times?
FIFY.
Great-Kazoo
01-13-2021, 21:32
Not at all.
His administration deserves credit and our gratitude for all those initiatives. But he was like having a master plumber come to your house to do great work, but then on the way out the door he screams profanity at your wife and kicks the dog. Now we need a new plumber who can do the same great work but without all the pain.
you believe that shit?? [ROFL3]
Looks like we have a harris voter here, folks.
Cause that's who is really going to be calling the shots, her, perez and the "squad"
BushMasterBoy
01-13-2021, 21:50
I was wondering how it would effect his s.s. detail if convicted.
But he won't be. The Senate isn't going to reconvene until 1/19.
They can still convict him, even after his term office expires. The other legal question is civil liability for the riot at the US Capitol Building. People died and others were injured.
Legal precedent set in this case:
https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/expulsion/Blount_expulsion.htm
hollohas
01-13-2021, 22:03
A impeachment conviction based in politics? Maybe.
Civil liability? That one is a huge stretch. But, I guess anything is possible these days.
FIFY.
Thank you. I hold back sometimes when I shouldn?t.
BushMasterBoy
01-13-2021, 23:17
The Congress has declared the President has committed a crime. Below is a link to the House Judiciary Report concerning the President and the attack on the Capitol Building.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/document-article-impeachment-and-house-judiciary-report
theGinsue
01-13-2021, 23:24
Not at all.
His administration deserves credit and our gratitude for all those initiatives. But he was like having a master plumber come to your house to do great work, but then on the way out the door he screams profanity at your wife and kicks the dog. Now we need a new plumber who can do the same great work but without all the pain.
Those fucking people are fucking evil.
They won’t stop. What chance does anyone have?
They do not have the best interest of the country. PERIOD!
Rico's response is right on the mark. Even before Trump took office the Left has vilified him constantly. He was/is a threat to their way of doing business. I'm no Trump fanboy because the guy doesn't know when to shut his mouth - but the facts are clear that under constant criticism and attack he made a lot of good things happen just prior to and during his term in office. I honestly believe that he has the good of this nation as his motivation and he worked to make improvements. His personal biggest failure was not completely cleaning out the swamp of folks under his authority who are pawns for the Left and remained in their offices to work against him.
Great-Kazoo
01-13-2021, 23:42
The Congress has declared the President has committed a crime. Below is a link to the House Judiciary Report concerning the President and the attack on the Capitol Building.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/document-article-impeachment-and-house-judiciary-report
The same congress who has worked since 11/16 trying to overthrow his win . That congress?
BushMasterBoy
01-14-2021, 01:09
You didn't get the memo? The Joint Chiefs of Staff affirmed the election results.
https://news.usni.org/2021/01/12/message-from-joint-chiefs-on-u-s-capitol-riot
GilpinGuy
01-14-2021, 01:14
Jeez, this is literally Nazi talk, no?
https://www.foxnews.com/media/pbs-lawyer-michael-beller-project-veritas-trump-voters-children
GilpinGuy
01-14-2021, 02:04
What happens when Trump is gone and fades away? Who will be the DEMON on the right to vilify and blame for the next two years?
Aloha_Shooter
01-14-2021, 02:27
Impeachment and removal from office are political processes, not criminal ones. It's a little difficult to remove someone from an office that s/he doesn't occupy. This is all political showboating becuase they KNOW they don't have a criminal case and they want to distract everyone from the regressive Stalinist repression they are using across the country to stifle any dissent.
I haven't seen any actual video of Trump calling for vandalism and violence, unlike Maxine Waters who openly called for harassment and others who openly advocated actual violence. We've seen for the last 4.5 years the way the media and the Leftists have distorted what he's actually said or tweeted so forgive me if I express some skepticism about this. Calling for people to protest the election shenanigans and make their voices heard is not insurrection like this summer's "peaceful" protests with people throwing Molotov cocktails and rocks at the police and even taking over neighborhoods.
You want to call Trump arrogant or obnoxious? Dislike him as a person? I'm with you. Obviously he alienated a lot of people in DC including retired generals who he'd previously praised to high heaven, Bolton, Barr, etc. but we don't know specifics and we know just from observing him that he likes what management types call creative chaos. He's in love with disruption and God knows the DC powerbase needs a lot of disruption. Claiming he wasn't fit for the office (especially after his immediate predecessor's antics), that he wasn't taking the actions the nation needed, etc. is sheer and utter nonsense. He's an asshole but the Beltway needs a few good assholes. Theodore Roosevelt pissed off the bureaucracy and established political powers too.
BPTactical
01-14-2021, 06:30
What happens when Trump is gone and fades away? Who will be the DEMON on the right to vilify and blame for the next two years?
They are going above and beyond to ensure there won’t be a “Next One”.
Great-Kazoo
01-14-2021, 07:17
You didn't get the memo? The Joint Chiefs of Staff affirmed the election results.
https://news.usni.org/2021/01/12/message-from-joint-chiefs-on-u-s-capitol-riot
Remember how many times when the military confirms an administration, it went afterward?
And people still believe the .mil will have gun owners backs
Great-Kazoo
01-14-2021, 07:19
What happens when Trump is gone and fades away? Who will be the DEMON on the right to vilify and blame for the next two years?
Look in the mirror. There's the new "Threat to America" as called for by the media, hollywood and politicians
OldFogey
01-14-2021, 09:48
The dims just need to follow Chinas reeducation process that they use on the Uighurs.
hollohas
01-14-2021, 09:53
You didn't get the memo? The Joint Chiefs of Staff affirmed the election results.
https://news.usni.org/2021/01/12/message-from-joint-chiefs-on-u-s-capitol-riotThe Joint Chiefs don't affirm anything to do with elections. That's not their role and it shouldn't be. They should have kept their mouths shut and that memo in the draft folder.
In any case, all they did was remind everyone that Biden will be Commander in Chief on Jan 20th. What the the memo SHOULD have said after that was Trump is their Commander in Chief until then.
The fact they didn't affirm that their current Commander is still Trump tells me all I need to know about their intent in issuing that memo.
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