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flogger
03-26-2021, 09:16
This is turning into an economic crisis in Europe and Asia. Shipping traffic is backed up both directions and the only alternative is around the Cape of Africa.

They estimate a trade loss of 6 to 10 billion dollars a week globally and it could drag on for a while.

One option to free the the ship is to offload it to lighten it, this thing can carry 20,000 Conex containers! They better try something fast, the tide changes next week and will drop the water level 18".

FoxtArt
03-26-2021, 09:20
Solution: American truck commercial. Sure, it only has a tow rating of 4,000 pounds, but watch it tow this container ship out of the Suez Canal. It's the 2022 FORAMADO. *eagle screeches*

Fentonite
03-26-2021, 09:29
Solution: American truck commercial. Sure, it only has a tow rating of 4,000 pounds, but watch it tow this container ship out of the Suez Canal. It's the 2022 FORAMADO. *eagle screeches*

[ROFL2]

RblDiver
03-26-2021, 09:56
Huh, interesting, I hadn't realized it could take weeks to remove. I was thinking it was a one-day deal, guess not!

Good thing we have so many pipelines to carry oil or this could send gas prices.....waitaminute...

Gman
03-26-2021, 11:51
We're a net exporter of oil, but hey, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

BPTactical
03-26-2021, 12:19
https://media.giphy.com/media/f6ek1KcvTWPmw/source.gif

Ah Pook
03-26-2021, 12:31
This thread is useless without pics.

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hollohas
03-26-2021, 12:32
That thing is in there good 'n tight. That's a big bastard.

Doesn't look like there is any infrastructure on the shore at that part of the canal to get anything in there to unload containers. What are they going to do? Bring in a fleet of Chinooks?

OldFogey
03-26-2021, 13:04
That thing is in there good 'n tight. That's a big bastard.

Doesn't look like there is any infrastructure on the shore at that part of the canal to get anything in there to unload containers. What are they going to do? Bring in a fleet of Chinooks?

I'd guess that they're going to shift as much ballast as possible to the rear and bring in every tug they can get. And then they'll probably still be stuck...
At least they have that excavator working around the bow!

00tec
03-26-2021, 13:17
Summary

https://mobile.twitter.com/ZainaErhaim/status/1374667602308567042

brutal
03-26-2021, 14:47
There's a Mom joke in here somewhere.

https://i.imgur.com/OyJp3M6.png

North end of canal

https://i.imgur.com/nWs9l4T.png

South end of canal

https://i.imgur.com/ANPxOfc.png

Irving
03-26-2021, 14:49
Someone should photoshop some little tails on each of those dots.

brutal
03-26-2021, 14:50
Looks like they're either offloading or using some large tugs to pull on it.

https://i.imgur.com/KWCXT9a.png

brutal
03-26-2021, 14:51
FYI, in case anyone is wondering...

https://www.vesselfinder.com/

Irving
03-26-2021, 14:52
Looks like they're either offloading or using some large tugs to pull on it.

https://i.imgur.com/KWCXT9a.png

I'd say it looks more like the ship is blocking traffic so some boats can drag race. Go around pizza boy!

flogger
03-26-2021, 15:27
FYI, in case anyone is wondering...

https://www.vesselfinder.com/

Very impressive, never thought sea lanes it would be that crowded!

MrPrena
03-26-2021, 18:22
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/03/25/faq-suez-canal-ever-given/




Has this happened before?
The canal has long been at the center of geopolitical tussling, most notably its dramatic closing in 1956 that saw British, French and Israeli forces enter Egypt in a bid to overthrow President Gamal Abdel Nasser, who sought to nationalize the Suez Canal Company. The event turned into a humiliating defeat after the United States withheld its support for the invading forces.

The canal was later closed for eight years after the Arab-Israeli War, before being reopened in 1975. There have been other smaller blockages more recently: In 2017, a Japanese vessel carrying containers became blocked in the canal after it had a mechanical issue. Tugboats and Egyptian authorities, however, were able to kick-start the ship within a couple of hours.

wctriumph
03-26-2021, 19:03
Let us hope some terrorist group doesn’t come in blow a hole in the ship below the waterline

flogger
03-26-2021, 19:37
Let us hope some terrorist group doesn’t come in blow a hole in the ship below the waterline

Your right, I imagine security is pretty tight there, but that region is unstable as hell. I heard the USN is sending 'help'.

MrPrena
03-26-2021, 20:11
Also worried about bottom right side with Somali Pirates with extra credit.

https://i.imgur.com/VUrQLXr.jpg

Duman
03-26-2021, 20:48
I didn't realize the canal was that narrow, and not deep enough for these super-FORMADO (still LMAO from that one!) cargo ships.

The only realistic option, methinks, is to start offloading as well as continuing efforts to dredge underneath and tug it about.

Duman
03-26-2021, 20:50
Also worried about bottom right side with Somali Pirates with extra credit.

https://i.imgur.com/VUrQLXr.jpg

This looks like a map for a colorectal surgeon.

arbol
03-26-2021, 21:03
Buy local!

BREATHER
03-27-2021, 07:30
hmmmmm what a coincidence

flogger
03-27-2021, 09:13
FYI, in case anyone is wondering...

https://www.vesselfinder.com/

Looks like they are trying to move it in earnest now

Duman
03-27-2021, 09:24
hmmmmm what a coincidence

Hahahahaha!![LOL]

Aloha_Shooter
03-27-2021, 09:24
Just when it's warming up and I want to drive the fun car, this huge spike in gas prices is keeping me in the Expedition since E-85 hasn't gone up that much. I am curious how the heck the vessel found itself wedged like that -- harbors and canals are usually pretty insistent on having their own pilots navigate the ships to avoid this kind of incident.

brutal
03-27-2021, 10:23
Just remember it's cow farts and my diesel truck that is the cause of "global warming" and brings the wrath of the Greta's and the strong arm EPA. It has nothing to do with the consumption of iPhones and chicom crap we are all guilty of, left/right/center.

https://i.imgur.com/SG3Zdi3.png

brutal
03-27-2021, 11:40
https://i.imgur.com/a7rp6fQ.png

FoxtArt
03-27-2021, 12:10
Looks like it is in the lake now based on the tracker. So it must be resolved.

brutal
03-27-2021, 14:05
Here's how it was resolved.

https://i.imgur.com/xzlsotx.png

Irving
03-27-2021, 14:11
Sounds about right. I think Matt's Offroad Recovery couldn't get there in time.

flogger
03-27-2021, 15:01
So, the current runs North to South in the canal. I'm guessing a lot of sand/silt is building up, at the bed, on that (port) side of the ship. From what I'm reading, they need to be real careful not to break the hull if it isn't fully floating. Just checking in on that vesselfinder site (?) you can see them setting up for a team pull/tug or maybe they are just stabilizing it.

FoxtArt
03-27-2021, 15:06
Looks like it is in the lake now based on the tracker. So it must be resolved.

I'm an idgit, looked at the Ever Excel in the lake instead of the Ever Given.

And why is the paint on the ship actually "EVERGREEN" ? So yeah, it's still stuck.

ETA: I see the excels paint in smaller letters on the hull, so it makes slightly more sense. They are all in a gang.

flogger
03-28-2021, 21:02
Well, sounds like they are planning on off-loading some of it to float it out. Not easy to get a 24 story service crane that floats, and they could use a dozen of them.

The use of helicopters has been discussed but a loaded 40' Conex could exceed the capabilities of even heavy lift helicopters. I'm guessing not all the containers are maxed out on weight and the lightest are on top for stability but I'm a Lubber. It's getting interesting!

flogger
03-28-2021, 21:12
85716

brutal
03-28-2021, 21:49
They might be making some progress.

https://i.imgur.com/iTD9pjp.png

TheNash
03-29-2021, 07:43
Unstuck

Aloha_Shooter
03-29-2021, 11:12
I still want to know how the ship got itself in that position. I can't see how an experienced canal pilot would have let that happen.

MrPrena
03-29-2021, 11:15
Tugboat =vector.
If I was a high school physics teacher, we would have a field day with students.

[hahhah-no]

Aloha_Shooter
03-29-2021, 11:48
Tugboat =vector.
If I was a high school physics teacher, we would have a field day with students.

Which is why I like applied physics. It's not random equations, it helps you understand why things happen the way they do and what you have to do to fix problems. Can't get traction in your vehicle? Think about what is causing the loss of traction and what forces you can/need to apply in order to regain traction. Bird feeder keeps toppling over? Think about what should be keeping it stable, why it isn't stable, and what you then have to do to make it stable.

RblDiver
03-29-2021, 12:22
I still want to know how the ship got itself in that position. I can't see how an experienced canal pilot would have let that happen.

Iirc, the claim was that there was a large gust of wind from a sandstorm, low visibility, etc, something of that nature.

O2HeN2
03-29-2021, 13:37
Can't get traction in your vehicle? Think about what is causing the loss of traction and what forces you can/need to apply in order to regain traction.
Spin the tires as fast as you possibly can.

...at least this is what 95% of the population thinks.

Years ago a friend and I stopped to help someone that was stuck, but not badly. We briefed them on not spinning the tires. They floored it. We told them it was strike 1 and told them again not to spin the tires. They floored it again. We briefed them again and told them it was strike 2. They floored it a third time. We just walked away without so much as a "good bye".

O2

brutal
03-29-2021, 14:41
High speed drifting.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1375845970584301571

Aloha_Shooter
03-29-2021, 15:49
Iirc, the claim was that there was a large gust of wind from a sandstorm, low visibility, etc, something of that nature.

It's going to take one helluva gust to move a ship with that much mass. As far as low visibility goes, I think canal pilots are supposed to meet the same standard as harbor pilots who -- in the US -- have to be able to reproduce the latest harbor charts from memory. They're supposed to KNOW the waterway they're navigating better than I know the back of my hand. I'm going to love a dig into THIS puppy ...

BladesNBarrels
03-29-2021, 15:52
High speed drifting.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1375845970584301571

Great description.
Is that a real life app or was it a reconstruction for the internet?

Duman
03-29-2021, 16:49
With all of the technology available, you could put that thing on autopilot. GPS locators at multiple locations on the ship, side thrusters at bow/aft sections, ..... built-in dredging units for future cases of 'Tokyo-Drift-in-Suez-Canal'

TheNash
03-29-2021, 17:42
I still say it was the penguins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqSdryYtnwc

flogger
03-29-2021, 18:11
Nice work to all involved, huge job with many challenges. Well done and hats off!

Now move over and, lets make room for the lawyers.

Eric P
03-30-2021, 00:06
Economic terrorism?

Destroy/disrupt a major trade route to cripple the colonizers...

MrPrena
04-02-2021, 08:41
Huge mistake in terms of $

https://www.newsweek.com/ever-given-stuck-again-estimates-shipping-stall-total-1-billion-1580599?amp=1

BladesNBarrels
04-02-2021, 08:42
Sue z Canal

MrPrena
04-02-2021, 08:51
^ yup.
Canal authorities will Sue you, if you ZZZ.

clodhopper
04-02-2021, 10:02
Ships are mandated to have canal pilots on board who are in control during transit. But not a word about that anywhere, just that Evergreen is liable.

.455_Hunter
04-02-2021, 11:17
Ships are mandated to have canal pilots on board who are in control during transit. But not a word about that anywhere, just that Evergreen is liable.

Often like military accountability, canal pilots are required, but the ship's captain retains ultimate responsibility.

Duman
04-02-2021, 14:23
A Panamanian ship, owned by the Japanese, operated by the Chinese.... (Taiwan), heading to Holland.....

MrPrena
04-02-2021, 14:43
I always thought it was tax reasons people register and flag different nationality on ship, but I guess it is more of a regulation reasons.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_convenience#:~:text=A%20ship's%20owners%20 may%20elect,example%2C%20have%20stricter%20safety% 20standards.&text=A%20registry%20which%20does%20not,described%2 0as%20an%20open%20registry.




Each merchant ship is required by international law to be registered in a registry created by a country,[3] and a ship is subject to the laws of that country, which are used also if the ship is involved in a case under admiralty law. A ship's owners may elect to register a ship in a foreign country which enables it to avoid the regulations of the owners' country which may, for example, have stricter safety standards. They may also select a jurisdiction to reduce operating costs, avoiding higher taxes in the owners' country and bypassing laws that protect the wages and working conditions of mariners.[4] The term "flag of convenience" has been used since the 1950s. A registry which does not have a nationality or residency requirement for ship registration is often described as an open registry. Panama, for example, offers the advantages of easier registration (often online) and the ability to employ cheaper foreign labour. Furthermore, the foreign owners pay no income taxes.

Irving
04-02-2021, 14:46
Probably insurance reasons as well.

MrPrena
04-02-2021, 16:50
Definitely.

I was wondering why there were so many Panamanian flagged ships.
Speaking of Panama,
I hope no one gets stuck at a Panama canal.

brutal
04-02-2021, 17:31
Definitely.

I was wondering why there were so many Panamanian flagged ships.
Speaking of Panama,
I hope no one gets stuck at a Panama canal.


I believe all non-concrete lined waterways in panama are at least as wide as any Panamax ships are long.

RblDiver
04-02-2021, 18:55
One reason I was very against a bailout of the cruise industry is because most of them are flagged in Panama to avoid regulations, taxes, etc.

arbol
04-02-2021, 21:03
Apparently your are in the know, of who should and should not be taxed?

Irving
04-20-2021, 10:32
https://youtu.be/Ty-m4pm8oog

Duman
04-20-2021, 16:55
Very informative. Thanks!

flogger
04-20-2021, 18:00
Ditto, great facts on the operation and history of the canal and what happened. Well done!

MrPrena
04-22-2021, 12:15
Huge superyacht squeezes down narrow Dutch canals
Tamara Hardingham-Gill, CNN ?
Published 22nd April 2021


(CNN) ? It's not every day you see a gigantic superyacht weaving through the narrow canals of the Netherlands.
Thankfully photographer Tom van Oossanen was on hand to capture the astonishing scenes as Project 817, a 94-meter (310 feet) vessel built by Dutch shipyard Feadship, was transported from its Kaag Island facility to the North Sea at Rotterdam last week.



https://www.cnn.com/travel/amp/superyacht-pulled-through-netherlands-canals/index.html

Duman
04-22-2021, 17:04
Wow! That is a floating building.

colorider
04-22-2021, 21:53
Super cool video ! Science.

rondog
04-23-2021, 04:27
Good Lord - a yacht? As in privately owned?