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GeorgeandSugar
04-26-2021, 19:06
?Irrational policies and arbitrary age discrimination too often stand in the way of responsible gun owners and their right to self-defense. Colorado laws and the Kroger Co. employment regulations disarmed Stong, leaving him defenseless when confronted with a violent threat.

It?s not that we can?t trust adults under 21 with firearms. Plenty of military personnel train with firearms every day, and many of those are under that age threshold. In fact, more than 19% of all active-duty military personnel are between the ages of 18 and 21.

These young adults are also full-fledged citizens entrusted in all other respects with the rights and duties of citizenship. They can vote, serve on juries, marry without parental permission, sign legally binding contracts, and be punished to the full extent of the law for criminal actions.

Why are they not also allowed to protect themselves and others in public places with firearms?

Concealed carry permit holders can stop crime and save lives, including when would-be mass shooters attack their places of employment.

On Jan. 17, 2019, Jay Brown, an IHOP employee in Huntsville, Alabama, stopped a gunman by drawing his own firearm and shooting the attacker, likely saving many lives.

Many of the other restaurant patrons were left speechless because of his bravery. Stong could have been another Jay Brown if he had been allowed to bring more than a knife to a gunfight.

We will never know how many lives he could have saved.

Denny Stong was wrongfully deprived of his right to carry a concealed handgun by the government for no logical reason, and it likely cost him his life.?

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Great-Kazoo
04-26-2021, 22:24
Why are they not also allowed to protect themselves and others in public places with firearms?

Because the same people who riot over EXCESSIVE FORCE by the POLICE . Are the same ones who have brain washed the kids through the education system, as well as their parents long association with anti-gun people. SO there's no desire to own, let alone consider carry a firearm.



He may have done so for a few reasons


The biggest is Federal Law prohibits anyone under 21 from buying a handgun. As well as (last time i checked) a 20 yr old is not able to obtain a CCW, in CO




IN AZ if the proper signage is posted, where it should be. NO GUNS / WEAPONS, ETC. One is suppose to follow said law and not enter concealed, or open carry. If a gun is noticed, They can ask you to leave, or have the P.D. either remove, or arrest you.

Myself ,as i know many others choose to Not notice said signage. Honestly 90% + of the time it's not posted where it should be.

One other item.

Remember the OUTRAGE when walmart prohibited guns carried by their customers?
Down here they ask you to "please conceal, or leave your firearm in your vehicle"
Yet i've seen more than 1-2 open carry folks moving about undisturbed, or cops arrive to escort them out.


I know the local P.D. When receiving a MAN WITH A GUN! call.

They'll show up talk to the person who called. Inquire how exactly was said person WITH A GUN! was doing.
99% of the time the cops ask said caller. You must have moved here recently, correct ? Um yes.

OK here in AZ it's neither illegal to show, carry in the open, on hip, etc a gun.

And yes we'll check it out with X neighbor, shopper etc the call was about. Have a good day.


Instead (as with CO and other states) a massive LE contingent, and or SWAT showing up.



So you have mindset of the population, local, state and federal laws that prevent someone under 21 from not only buying a handgun. But also inability to get a permit. Based on, again anti-gun hysteria over a youth shooting up a mall.
Because said age group is "Not Mature Enough to Own a Gun"

Yet the same mindset / groups, believe 16 yr olds should be eligible to vote

Irving
04-26-2021, 22:29
What is the percentage of public shootings where an armed citizen is even present, let alone engages the shooter? If the numbers were something like 50% or greater, I think you'd have an argument. What is even the percentage of people in that age group that have a driver's license?

Great-Kazoo
04-26-2021, 22:40
What is the percentage of public shootings where an armed citizen is even present, let alone engages the shooter? If the numbers were something like 50% or greater, I think you'd have an argument. What is even the percentage of people in that age group that have a driver's license?

Sadly, unless it's an attempted shooing. As that texas church , where they had security that made worldwide headlines. The media rarely runs any positive permit holder stops . HOME INVASION, CARJACKING, MUGGING ETC .

It would give validity to the pro gun people and orgs. Something they have been trying to discredit for decades .

A good example is how, if a cop shoots a person of color. IT WAS A RACIST WHITE COP!!!

Yet outside the local chicago media outlets. The daily murders are brushed under the rug. As it shows gang , inner city / black on black violence to be the real issue . Haven't heard lebron, spike lee, or the attorney defending said family member killed by A WHITE COP. Address said inner city violence, have you?