View Full Version : Interesting- Guy OCing a Shield in a Longmont Safeway this evening.
.455_Hunter
05-02-2021, 23:36
I popped over to get some quick groceries for my parents and saw something new...
A guy with FDE Shield in some sort of OWB Serpa push-button holster. I thought at first he had unintentionally exposed from a lifted sweatshirt, but it soon became pretty clear he wanted EVERYONE to have a view.
Not something you see too regularly in local stores. I am pretty big on the if you are going to OC, don't look like a douchebag, and this guy kinda gave me the douchebag vibe- about one step-up from somebody having a IWB clipped on the outside of their belt.
Just my observations.
FromMyColdDeadHand
05-03-2021, 00:35
At least it had some retention in that holster.
Surprised people weren't screaming and running down the aisles.
JohnnyEgo
05-03-2021, 06:57
There's a guy I'd see pretty frequently in the Windsor King Supers who open carried what I thought was an XD or M&P on one hip, and a bowie knife on the other. There were quite a few stares and furtive glances,mine included, and he mostly had every aisle to himself. Haven't seen him since the KS shooting, so I don't know if he suddenly developed a sense of discretion or just started shopping on different days than me.
Great-Kazoo
05-03-2021, 08:23
OC'ing is just another day at the office, down here. I , as other i know prefer concealed
There's a guy I'd see pretty frequently in the Windsor King Supers who open carried what I thought was an XD or M&P on one hip, and a bowie knife on the other. There were quite a few stares and furtive glances,mine included, and he mostly had every aisle to himself. Haven't seen him since the KS shooting, so I don't know if he suddenly developed a sense of discretion or just started shopping on different days than me.
People that open carry seem like they are making a statement of some sort. A guy open carrying a knife and a gun at the same has a statement that I'm sure I'm not interested in hearing.
Coming soon to the future of law enforcement: These guys, paid at $15.50/hour.
There's a guy I'd see pretty frequently in the Windsor King Supers who open carried what I thought was an XD or M&P on one hip, and a bowie knife on the other. There were quite a few stares and furtive glances,mine included, and he mostly had every aisle to himself. Haven't seen him since the KS shooting, so I don't know if he suddenly developed a sense of discretion or just started shopping on different days than me.
Imagine if he had a Davey Crockett hat on...
OC'ing is just another day at the office, down here. I , as other i know prefer concealed
Ditto - to me, open carry in public puts me at risk by exposing the fact that I am carrying which limits or removes my option to counter ambush. There are quite a few scared sheep out there who might call me to law enforcement in which at the low end would be a pain in the ass for me and for the officer, at worst, could get me into trouble with an LEO who isn't pro 2nd. I'd rather be stealth and avoid all the hassle.
beast556
05-03-2021, 09:19
I have been seeing lots more open carry up this way. 90% of the time they have a shitty holster that is flopping around.
.455_Hunter
05-03-2021, 09:34
If I am going to OC in an urban area, it's going to be with a dress shirt / polo, slacks or nice khakis, and professional looking leather or kydex FBI cant holster. The cargo shorts, hoodie and camo face muff doesn't really cut it.
Aloha_Shooter
05-03-2021, 09:40
Eh, the guys who OC like that are distractions from the CC. I'm okay with that. ;-)
Eh, the guys who OC like that are distractions from the CC. I'm okay with that. ;-)
I was thinking the same thing. While some bad actor is distracted by Captain OC, it buys me time to GTFO.
If I am going to OC in an urban area, it's going to be with a dress shirt / polo, slacks or nice khakis, and professional looking leather or kydex FBI cant holster. The cargo shorts, hoodie and camo face muff doesn't really cut it.
Saw that when I was having lunch in a restaurant. Well dressed guy with a 1911 in a nice leather open carry rig held tight to the hip. Looked like he had his stuff together (could have been LEO but I didn't see a badge). I wished more people were exposed to firearms in that fashion. Might desensitize them to seeing a gun and freaking out about it.
Great-Kazoo
05-03-2021, 12:41
I have been seeing lots more open carry up this way. 90% of the time they have a shitty holster that is flopping around.
That must be a universal thing. Higher percentage of them, here. Running an uncle mikes, or walmart type, unmolded, nyoln holster. Or better yet one of those foam style ones [facepalm]
JohnnyEgo
05-03-2021, 14:25
People that open carry seem like they are making a statement of some sort. A guy open carrying a knife and a gun at the same has a statement that I'm sure I'm not interested in hearing.
In a way, I think of it as it's own public service. A giant sign that says something to the effect of "You'd probably regret any conversation you might have with me." A real time saver.
JohnnyEgo
05-03-2021, 14:32
In the interest of full disclosure, I have open carried a few times where it was relevant and/or convenient to whatever I was doing, and I will probably do so again in the future, so I have no great moral objection to it. And I believe a right isn't really a right unless it can be exercised. But I also believe in not being an obvious douche-bag either. And if I ever felt like I needed to strap up like I was making a run through Mogadishu just to pick up some Cascade, I'd probably order it off of Amazon instead.
RblDiver
05-03-2021, 14:55
In a way, I think of it as it's own public service. A giant sign that says something to the effect of "You'd probably regret any conversation you might have with me." A real time saver.
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hollohas
05-03-2021, 16:33
I have been seeing lots more open carry up this way. 90% of the time they have a shitty holster that is flopping around.The floppy holsters make me cringe.
I think Lauren Boebert is awesome. I appreciate the fact that she is outspoken and is willing to put money where her mouth is. But that floppy looking thigh rig she always wears just looks so... ineffective. Her gun hangs halfway to her knee and being top-heavy leans away from her leg. I really wish some quality holster manufacturer would set her up with a better rig.
Personally, I feel much more comfortable when my holster snugs up against me nice and tight. And I like something higher that I can inconspicuously secure with my elbow if someone gets too close.
I think Lauren Boebert is awesome. I appreciate the fact that she is outspoken and is willing to put money where her mouth is. But that floppy looking thigh rig she always wears just looks so... ineffective. Her gun hangs halfway to her knee and being top-heavy leans away from her leg.
That style of carry was popular a long time ago....
In a galaxy far, far away.
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theGinsue
05-03-2021, 17:32
Saw that when I was having lunch in a restaurant. Well dressed guy with a 1911 in a nice leather open carry rig held tight to the hip. Looked like he had his stuff together (could have been LEO but I didn't see a badge). I wished more people were exposed to firearms in that fashion. Might desensitize them to seeing a gun and freaking out about it.
I don't OC, just because I don't need the hassle it's likely to bring on, but I absolutely agree with your statement. More decently dressed/respectable looking individuals OC'ing and desensitizing folks to firearms by good guys is sorely lacking in our nation. I think if more people saw more people carrying on a regular basis we wouldn't have this irrational fear of firearms that is so prevalent and what helps get more anti-gun laws on the books.
The floppy holsters make me cringe.
I think Lauren Boebert is awesome. I appreciate the fact that she is outspoken and is willing to put money where her mouth is. But that floppy looking thigh rig she always wears just looks so... ineffective. Her gun hangs halfway to her knee and being top-heavy leans away from her leg. I really wish some quality holster manufacturer would set her up with a better rig.
Personally, I feel much more comfortable when my holster snugs up against me nice and tight. And I like something higher that I can inconspicuously secure with my elbow if someone gets too close.
Just after I stopped playing cop for the USAF, they started using thigh rigs. I have one and I can say without reservation that it's easier/faster to get the gun out and on target with a properly adjusted thigh holster than it would have been with the higher duty belt holster. BUT, it needs to be a quality holster and properly adjusted. Anything else is an accident waiting to happen or an increase in on-target time should the wearer need to draw.
Just my thoughts and experience on the subject.
I understand where you're coming from, but...
When I was doing armed security work back in the day, I spent a lot of time in a vehicle (field supervisor). A high riding holster was more comfortable for that. I also could easily retain the revolver with my arm. Drawing was still pretty quick with practice, you just had to work your shoulder a bit more. ;-)
Great-Kazoo
05-03-2021, 17:46
That style of carry was popular a long time ago....
In a galaxy far, far away.
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I'm your Huckleberry
Just did a weekend drive up to Yellowstone and back via Dubois Wy. Saw people OCing pretty much everywhere, even saw a couple OC in Yellowstone.
.455_Hunter
05-03-2021, 19:16
Just did a weekend drive up to Yellowstone and back via Dubois Wy. Saw people OCing pretty much everywhere, even saw a couple OC in Yellowstone.
Yes. It just depends on the local culture. If you are going to do it in a less common urban area, you need to look squared away.
Or like a cop, which is mostly squared away.
But most civilians aren't going to be quite so squared away. It's still their right, to open carry, or keep and bear arms.
There are consequences, to believing in the 2nd amendment, and that we all have the right to keep and bear arms.
This means drug dealers, have the right to keep and bear arms.
This means girls, have the right to keep and bear arms.
Pretty much everyone you don't want to have arms, has the rights to have arms.
hurley842002
05-03-2021, 20:31
There are consequences, to believing in the 2nd amendment, and that we all have the right to keep and bear arms.
This means drug dealers, have the right to keep and bear arms.
This means girls, have the right to keep and bear arms.
Pretty much everyone you don't want to have arms, has the rights to have arms.
And I?m fine with all of that, I?m even fine with prisoners having the right to bear arms once they are released, they are either rehabilitated or they aren?t, that being said, I think child molesters should earn a death sentence (off topic I know).
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meh..... Why not Open carry a Barrett 107/82 or 110 Elite Precision 30" barrel on a Tab Biathlon sling?
(or buy an sturdier izzo dual golf strap for a fraction of the cost)
https://youtu.be/k1cUOMIzG3Y
.455_Hunter
05-03-2021, 21:02
Exercising a right doesn't make you a special snowflake immune from criticism about how you exercise that right.
Exercising a right, like open carry, is never pretty. You are likely to get attacked from all sides.
JohnnyEgo
05-03-2021, 21:41
I don't tend to lump girls into the 'consequence' category of the right to keep and bare arms,so much as in the 'awesome' category.
OC was all over Grand Teton this summer. Thigh rigs seemed really popular there, too. I'm not big on arguing with park rangers when I want to take a dump in the gift shop bathroom, though, so I went another route.
Yeah, it was an eye-opening event for myself when I realized Girls/Women might have a gun in their purse.
First it scared me, then I realized this is exactly what to keep and bear arms, is all about.
DenverGP
05-03-2021, 21:55
Yeah, it was an eye-opening event for myself when I realized Girls/Women might have a gun in their purse.
First it scared me, then I realized this is exactly what to keep and bear arms, is all about.
This comment scares me more than the thought of women conceal carrying a firearm...
JohnnyEgo
05-03-2021, 22:05
You're probably one of those bleeding heart hippie beatnik types who's all about women's suffrage too, DenverGP. First it's guns in purses. Next it will be property rights and consent!
Great-Kazoo
05-03-2021, 23:51
You're probably one of those bleeding heart hippie beatnik types who's all about women's suffrage too, DenverGP. First it's guns in purses. Next it will be property rights and consent!
It's bad enough those trollops are showing their ankles. What next SMOKING IN PUBLIC!
Great-Kazoo
05-03-2021, 23:53
Yeah, it was an eye-opening event for myself when I realized Girls/Women might have a gun in their purse.
First it scared me, then I realized this is exactly what to keep and bear arms, is all about.
One day, when i feel like typing a 12 page memoir . I'll tell the story of the Ozzie we met in northern AZ. He said talking to us, made his entire vacation worth it.
JohnnyEgo
05-04-2021, 08:00
Yep. After I realized girls could have guns in their purses, it made me really uncomfortable hanging out in the alley behind the Yoga studio. For a while. But then I realized that discomfort is just the price of freedom.
Funny, it's been some years but a Boulder Police sergeant once told me that 80% of the nurses at Boulder Community Hospital carried a gun.
I concur about open carry in most urban-suburban environments. It's a real security risk. There's always someone out there bigger, stronger or faster who can take it from you. But, living and walking in the mountains or traveling across the state I carry owb almost every day. It's usually a G27 or Micro9 holstered high and tight by my elbow. I think most people never notice and no one has ever said anything about it.
I don't tend to lump girls into the 'consequence' category of the right to keep and bare arms,so much as in the 'awesome' category.
OC was all over Grand Teton this summer. Thigh rigs seemed really popular there, too. I'm not big on arguing with park rangers when I want to take a dump in the gift shop bathroom, though, so I went another route.
It's legal to OC in Yellowstone and Teton and it's even listed on their informational materials and website so not sure what the issue would be. It is however illegal to discharge a firearm for any reason within the park so if it happens be ready for a world of shit even if it was 100% self defense.
whitewalrus
05-04-2021, 12:48
I see people from time to time open carrying in COS. Runs the range from the hi point in some knockoff condor drop leg to people with fancy looking 1911s.
I often open carry in the small towns near where I am hunting as I already have it on me anyway. I often see people there OCing as well.
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JohnnyEgo
05-04-2021, 16:33
It's legal to OC in Yellowstone and Teton and it's even listed on their informational materials and website so not sure what the issue would be. It is however illegal to discharge a firearm for any reason within the park so if it happens be ready for a world of shit even if it was 100% self defense.
It is also illegal to bring it into any of the federal buildings like the ranger stations, welcome centers, or the ferry. Hence my comment about choosing other options when I want to use the flush toilet in the gift shop.
Yep. After I realized girls could have guns in their purses, it made me really uncomfortable hanging out in the alley behind the Yoga studio. For a while. But then I realized that discomfort is just the price of freedom.
Good thing I wasn't drinking when I read this.
Good thing I wasn't drinking when I read this.
I think he was being sarcastic to underscore and make fun of an earlier post
A guy was OC in the Falcon Safeway a couple weeks ago. Full size .45 in some sort of floppy holster at 1:00 (in front). Didn't care for the rig . But lots of customers were going up and saying 'glad you are here, feel good you're protecting us, etc.'
I think he was being sarcastic to underscore and make fun of an earlier post
Yeah, I thought it was funny.
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