View Full Version : Glock Carbine...according to the "other" AR site
Bailey Guns
05-23-2021, 18:14
So the other site is reporting, and claiming it's not an April Fools gag, that Glock has actually/finally/really filed a patent for a carbine. There is also a YouTube video from SPARTANAT (never heard of him) that the narrator in the first video references.
What are the chances? Real or elaborate hoax? I'm just interested because, you know, no one has EVER claimed Glock is coming out with a carbine. EVER. Seriously. No one has ever heard this before.
https://youtu.be/38dx8JzT5BE
Agreed... news to me. I guess we’ll see, and you can bet if it’s real, it’ll sell out at whatever price they charge.
.455_Hunter
05-23-2021, 18:23
Meh, 10mm or GTFO
Yup- Even I might purchase my first Glock product if it's a well executed 10mm carbine. "Yet Another" 9mm PCC would be a yawn.
It can be Gaston's 2nd most innovative design. Finally, 2 tricks.
Zundfolge
05-23-2021, 19:48
It'll be meh because frankly there is no platform better than the AR platform.
Glock would have been better off just buying KE Arms and bringing the KP15 out as a Glock.
Scanker19
05-23-2021, 20:33
Yeah but does it take Glock mags?
Great-Kazoo
05-23-2021, 21:50
AGAIN. This rumor has been going around, since Al Gore invented the internet.
The serious question is why? It's not like there's a shortage of 9mm carbine & pistol makers out there. I would not pay for the GLOCK name on a 9mm carbine. But i also blew off the opportunity to buy a prototype AR lower, that now brings 4 digits, if and when they pop up on line
It looks like it is basically a piston AR. There isn't anything I see that looks revolutionary. Doesn't appear to be 9mm. Nor does it look at take glock mags.
Agreed... news to me. I guess we’ll see, and you can bet if it’s real, it’ll sell out at whatever price they charge.
It's still "Perfection" at any price. [Coffee]
Like Glock needed an excuse to sell more magazines.
Glock better launch it soon before Biden bans them all
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Glock better launch it soon before Biden bans them all
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Eh. Their bread and butter is the law enforcement market. You know any ban won?t apply to those guys anyways.
Bailey Guns
05-24-2021, 14:01
Eh. Their bread and butter is the law enforcement market. You know any ban won?t apply to those guys anyways.
Why would you say that. That 94 ban did. Police officers could still get them but there were plenty of hoops to jump thru and there were additional record keeping requirements for dealers, too. Most wholesalers wouldn't let dealers order "hi-cap" mags without a copy of the officer's letter. It was a massive pain in the ass for everyone.
Police officers could still get them
Uhm. Pretty sure that?s what I said.
Poster above me thought maybe Glock should introduce their carbine before they get banned. My point was that since Glock would likely still have a market for them (law enforcement) I wouldn?t think they would be pushing the envelope to release it just so us lowly civilians could get our filthy hands on one.
beast556
05-24-2021, 15:48
Why would you say that. That 94 ban did. Police officers could still get them but there were plenty of hoops to jump thru and there were additional record keeping requirements for dealers, too. Most wholesalers wouldn't let dealers order "hi-cap" mags without a copy of the officer's letter. It was a massive pain in the ass for everyone.
I worked in a gun shop during the ban and in CA with all its bullshit on top, there were very few hoops for officers to jump through to get what ever they wanted except happy switches.
Bailey Guns
05-24-2021, 16:40
Yeah... Well I worked for a police dept and then owned a gun shop. As an officer you were required to get a letter signed by the chief or sheriff (or someone acting on their behalf) that stated the restricted item was for the performance of official duties and not personal use and the officer had not been convicted of any DV related offense. The letter had to be presented to the business selling the item. The selling business usually had to jump thru hoops to acquire restricted items from distributors. I never dealt with any distributor that didn't require copies of that same letter to order the item. You just didn't walk into a shop and buy a full capacity magazine like you guys are implying. If you did, someone wasn't following the law. Some departments required the magazines (or gun) be surrendered or disposed of by the officer if/when they ceased employment during the ban.
So, sure...officers could get the item. Police officers get lots of things Joe Blow citizen doesn't get.
And I'm not supporting the ban or restrictions at all. I'm just pointing out the cops had to follow the law as written and couldn't just walk into a shop and get a prohibited item like you guys are making it seem.
Bailey Guns
05-24-2021, 16:52
I also meant to mention an officer couldn't get restricted items if it wasn't specifically for duty. In other words, if your dept didn't authorize/issue AR-15s for carry on patrol you weren't gonna get a letter to get AR mags. Same for handguns. So aside from duty guns, officers faced the same restrictions as everyone else in terms of the ban. Making it out like that's not the case is flat out wrong.
So. You?re still saying what I said about exceptions being made for law enforcement when acquiring items that were banned from private civilian ownership.
Your just making a big deal that they had to get permission from their department. Boo hoo. How tragic. Must have been absolutely horrible for them.
While I appreciate your former service to the community and am jealous that I have never been ambitious enough to own my own business, your whining falls on deaf ears.
(Sorry. I get that might come across as me being less than nice but my give a fucks have been broken for months.)
Bailey Guns
05-24-2021, 22:14
No, I'm not making a big deal out of anything other than your misrepresentation of the facts. You're implying that police officers got some sort of pass on the AWB ban by stating "You know any ban won?t apply to those guys anyways". They didn't. It's ignorant to even suggest that. They were required to comply with the law just like everyone else. The law did give them an exception to possess certain items for the performance of their duties. But as I pointed out if their duties didn't require possessing a prohibited item, they didn't get that item.
You can feel however you want to feel about me or what I've done in the past. I'm not looking for praise or approval and I don't care what you think of me. What I do care about is people that make shit up and try to pass bullshit as fact.
The Glock Carbine is coming, the Glock Carbine is coming!!![ROFL2]
If so, it'll be reliable, but will need aftermarket sights, the grip angle will suck, and aftermarket triggers will be released to fix trigger issues, real or imagined... Oh, and it'll require new mags. lol!! Love my Glocks, they're way late to the ... But hey, they have a .22lr pistol!
Bailey...why would any gun store jump through hoops like that during AWB for $3 markup of a magazine?
I mean even at minimum wage, a fully burdened employ will cost the around $25/hr. If they spend 7 minutes dealing with it, that $3 markup is $zero.
If I was a gun store, I wouldn't carry any inventory hoping an LEO comes in and buys it unless I was selling mostly to LE. Carrying inventory that doesn't move is bad.
Bailey Guns
05-25-2021, 15:14
At my store, with my wholesalers, I didn't carry inventory. I ordered restricted items as needed.
Great-Kazoo
05-25-2021, 18:18
Bailey...why would any gun store jump through hoops like that during AWB for $3 markup of a magazine?
I mean even at minimum wage, a fully burdened employ will cost the around $25/hr. If they spend 7 minutes dealing with it, that $3 markup is $zero.
If I was a gun store, I wouldn't carry any inventory hoping an LEO comes in and buys it unless I was selling mostly to LE. Carrying inventory that doesn't move is bad.
[LOL] What we were paid, versus what some of use spent on used / trade in, or new (at cost +10, or s&h) if that. Put me where it cost X $$ per week to walk through the door. But i did it for the opportunity to buy at dealer pricing, among other things. I already had a FT job, the gun store[s] pt gigs, fed my habit [Beer]
The Glock Carbine is coming, the Glock Carbine is coming!!![ROFL2]
If so, it'll be reliable, but will need aftermarket sights, the grip angle will suck, and aftermarket triggers will be released to fix trigger issues, real or imagined... Oh, and it'll require new mags. lol!! Love my Glocks, they're way late to the ��... But hey, they have a .22lr pistol!
You forgot you have to pull the trigger to disassemble it and it will have an unsupported chamber.
You forgot you have to pull the trigger to disassemble it and it will have an unsupported chamber.
LOL! Forgot!!!
At my store, with my wholesalers, I didn't carry inventory. I ordered restricted items as needed.
Even that, why even bothering to order? It seems like the effort is a money losing proposition for the massive margins on magazines.
Maybe I am missing something.
Of course I always love when employees say "look at me, I spent three hours screwing around on the internet and saved $17 on the item".
Then I calculate how much money they spent saving that $17....
[LOL] What we were paid, versus what some of use spent on used / trade in, or new (at cost +10, or s&h) if that. Put me where it cost X $$ per week to walk through the door. But i did it for the opportunity to buy at dealer pricing, among other things. I already had a FT job, the gun store[s] pt gigs, fed my habit [Beer]
I have heard it rumored that gun store employees spend more in the shop than they make....
Bailey Guns
05-26-2021, 18:55
Even that, why even bothering to order? It seems like the effort is a money losing proposition for the massive margins on magazines.
Maybe I am missing something.
Of course I always love when employees say "look at me, I spent three hours screwing around on the internet and saved $17 on the item".
Then I calculate how much money they spent saving that $17....
Well, the customer always has the option of spending his/her money elsewhere, even if it's just a few dollars. And adding an item to an order was as simple as a phone call or two or a few clicks of a mouse and faxing their letter over. It also builds goodwill with the customer. The $50 they spend this time might lead to them spending $500 next time. And they tell their friends "Oh I got this at Joe Blow's gun shop. He hooked me up right away." Maybe the friend will come in. Not to mention, the more you spend with a particular distributor and your rep at that distributor, the more likely he/she will call you when allocated or other hard to get items show up in their allocation. It's a numbers game...
Aloha_Shooter
05-27-2021, 00:08
So the other site is reporting, and claiming it's not an April Fools gag, that Glock has actually/finally/really filed a patent for a carbine. There is also a YouTube video from SPARTANAT (never heard of him) that the narrator in the first video references.
What are the chances? Real or elaborate hoax? I'm just interested because, you know, no one has EVER claimed Glock is coming out with a carbine. EVER. Seriously. No one has ever heard this before.
https://youtu.be/38dx8JzT5BE
Whee. Big deal. Beretta released their Cx4 Storm a long dang time ago. Nice lightweight accurate carbine with full magazine compatibility with the 92fs family -- and apparently prohibited in Canada since May 1, 2020.
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