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kidicarus13
06-19-2021, 19:56
https://www.reporterherald.com/2021/06/19/colorado-governor-three-gun-bills-boulder-shooting/
In the past seven years , Colorado instituted one new gun law. Lawmakers passed six times that amount in one legislative session, and on Saturday, Gov. Jared Polis signed three of the bills into law.
These bills were announced after?the mass shooting at King Soopers in Boulder?on March 22, when 10 people were killed.
But, said Boulder Rep. Judy Amabile at the bill signing event, ?It isn?t just about mass shootings.
?It?s about what we sadly call everyday gun violence,? said Amabile, a sponsor of one of the bills. ?Every day people are dying all across our state from homicides, from accidents, from mass shootings and mostly from suicide.?
This year Polis signed?two other bills,?setting regulations for safe storage of guns in homes and requirements for reporting lost or stolen firearms.?One other gun bill, meant to keep firearms out of the hands of domestic abusers, awaits the governor?s signature.
Here?s a brief look at the three that were signed Saturday. They are set to take effect immediately.
Expanded background checks (HB21-1298)
What it does:?You can no longer buy a gun without a completed background check (a person who sells one before it?s complete could face a Class 1 misdemeanor charge); the list of people who are not legally allowed to get guns for five years now includes following violent misdemeanors: third-degree assault, sexual assault, unlawful sexual contact, child abuse, violation of a protection order, a crime against an at-risk person, harassment, a bias-motivated crime, cruelty to animals, possession of an illegal weapon and unlawfully providing a firearm other than a handgun to a juvenile.
Local control of gun regulations (SB21-256)
What it does:?This reverses a ban that keeps local governments (towns, cities and counties) from creating their own gun regulations. But local jurisdictions can only make ordinances that are stricter, not more lenient, than state law. Any regulations currently in place that are less restrictive are effectively overturned. A person can only face a criminal penalty for violating local laws if they knew about them or reasonably should have known. The new law also puts concealed-carry requirements back in the hands of the state so they?re consistent, but it does allow local governments to decide where those guns can be carried.
The Office of Gun Violence Prevention (HB21-1299)
What it does:?About $3 million will go to the Colorado Department of Health and Environment for the first year to create the?state?s first Office of Gun Violence Prevention, which will be tasked with coordinating and promoting efforts to reduce gun violence, including providing training and public awareness campaigns. The office can also provide grants to community organizations working on the issue, especially those working with high-risk communities.
.455_Hunter
06-19-2021, 20:26
Want to place any bets on whether most larger municipalities will have non-grandfathering assault weapon and mag bans, plus de facto CCW bans by Dec 31?
beast556
06-19-2021, 21:53
We will be exiting colorado very very soon. The state is lost it's all down hill from here. The democrats stranglehold will never be broken only tightend.
FromMyColdDeadHand
06-19-2021, 22:39
Want to place any bets on whether most larger municipalities will have non-grandfathering assault weapon and mag bans, plus de facto CCW bans by Dec 31?
It will be a race for the bottom. With cities trying to out do themselves with the virtue signaling.
We need SCOTUS decisions that are clear and unequivocal about the striking down these laws.
Colorado is going full California stupid at in increasing rate. We are already looking at getting out of here.
BPTactical
06-19-2021, 22:44
This motherfucker was lost in 2012. After spending 3 days in the Judicial chambers watching the dog and pony show over the mag ban and other bills…. I realized that one vote didn’t matter, your voice doesn’t matter and to have a Limey import motherfucker into this state tell me that “I am not recognized” in the chambers of the Capitol of my native state?
Yeah, stick a fork in it
Circuits
06-19-2021, 23:07
It's been a treat, fellow firearms enthusiasts.
My ass will most likely be exiting this AO.
A person can only face a criminal penalty for violating local laws if they knew about them or reasonably should have known. The new law also puts concealed-carry requirements back in the hands of the state so they?re consistent, but it does allow local governments to decide where those guns can be carried.
I will no longer be watching or paying attention to the local news. The only law that matters is the 2nd. This laws has made ignorance of local laws an acceptable excuse.
We are not required to be layers and pay attention to laws that arbitrarily change.
Great-Kazoo
06-20-2021, 00:23
Expanded background checks (HB21-1298)
What it does:?You can no longer buy a gun without a completed background check (a person who sells one before it?s complete could face a Class 1 misdemeanor charge); the list of people who are not legally allowed to get guns for five years now includes following violent misdemeanors: third-degree assault, sexual assault, unlawful sexual contact, child abuse, violation of a protection order, a crime against an at-risk person, harassment, a bias-motivated crime, cruelty to animals, possession of an illegal weapon and unlawfully providing a firearm other than a handgun to a juvenile.
This means ANY complaint[s] about a person being "harassed" . The person who the complaint is levied against , can lose their gun rights.
While it was later than planned, we got out of there before the d's took total control.
We have a guest casita, as well as plenty of room for a camper. If anyone wants to come down and check out N. Az
FromMyColdDeadHand
06-20-2021, 09:06
My wife is a little to complacent about the guns versus her when it comes to where I domicile…. I’d think she’d at least act a little worried.
About time to Daniel Boone this bitch and head for the promised land of Ken-tuck-eee.
These pro2A sheriffs need to find a way to deputize us so that we can local Po-po to shove it.
Kind of crappy that he let this run hot too. It is the law now. No implemention period. I haven’t seen anything for Denver in their planned meetings, yet- but you do know that they’ll act on CCW right away and then go after AWB when they see what smaller places do.
There were 6 laws right? What three hasn’t he signed.
That list looks a lot worse than the 7 gun laws signed in TX.
Texas House Bill 1927 authorizes Constitutional Carry in Texas, meaning law-abiding Texans can legally carry a handgun without a license to carry. This makes Texas the 21st constitutional carry state. The other 20 states are Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia, and Wyoming.
Texas House Bill 957 repeals the criminal offense of possessing, manufacturing, transporting or repairing a firearm silencer. It also ensures that any firearm suppressor manufactured in Texas, and that remains in Texas, will not be subject to federal law or federal regulation.
Texas House Bill 2622 makes Texas a Second Amendment Sanctuary State by protecting Texans from new federal gun control regulations.
Texas Senate Bill 20 allows guests to store firearms in their hotel rooms.
Texas Senate Bill 19 prohibits any governmental entity from contracting with any business that discriminates against firearm and ammunition businesses or organizations.
Texas Senate Bill 550 removes the shoulder or belt holster requirements, allowing Texans to carry firearms in whatever kind of holster they choose.
Texas House Bill 1500 prevents any government entity from prohibiting the sale or transportation of firearms or ammunition during a declared disaster or emergency.
AZ is also high on the list.
http://youtu.be/BUsWPzzSs64
https://youtu.be/BUsWPzzSs64
FromMyColdDeadHand
06-20-2021, 09:22
Yes, those laws are good, but unless the penalty for a govt leader violating them is death or imprisonment, they really mean nothing. We have to start getting pound-you-in-the-ass prison sentences for govt people that violate our 2A laws— just like if we break the laws they pass.
Great-Kazoo
06-20-2021, 09:26
That list looks a lot worse than the 7 gun laws signed in TX.
AZ is also high on the list.
http://youtu.be/BUsWPzzSs64
https://youtu.be/BUsWPzzSs64
Tx just got Constitutional carry. Az has had it for 11 years.
The only thing texas leads the way for is. bragging ;) There's also much less public land in Tx, compared to Az, to shoot on. If one was comparing stats. BUT Tx does have a higher wage, per area and different tax rate than Az.
Bailey Guns
06-20-2021, 09:32
Colin may be a little off on TX being the most pro-2A state. It ain't bad, but it ain't the best. I'd say AK, AZ, ID and OK are just as good, if not better, than TX.
wctriumph
06-20-2021, 09:33
Since the interpretation of these laws are unconstitutional they are null and void.
My wife is a little to complacent about the guns versus her when it comes to where I domicile…. I’d think she’d at least act a little worried.
About time to Daniel Boone this bitch and head for the promised land of Ken-tuck-eee.
These pro2A sheriffs need to find a way to deputize us so that we can local Po-po to shove it.
Kind of crappy that he let this run hot too. It is the law now. No implemention period. I haven’t seen anything for Denver in their planned meetings, yet- but you do know that they’ll act on CCW right away and then go after AWB when they see what smaller places do.
There were 6 laws right? What three hasn’t he signed.
He signed the other 3 earlier this year, back in Feb or March or something.
Since the interpretation of these laws are unconstitutional they are null and void.
There's a lot of people that say that from behind steel bars.
Go back to when you were a kid. If your parents wrote some rules, listed some chores, and said if you did x and y you would get this "reward"....
What happens to the parent when they don't abide by their own rules and/or they fail to do what they promised? The kid is disappointed, but has no pragmatic mechanism to enforce the contract, the only enforcement occurs when the kid breaks the rules. That is government in a nutshell. The kid can bitch and moan all they want, but in the end, the government, and the parent, is both the author and the enforcer of their contract and you have no choice but to remain in residence.
Claiming laws are null and void... are you one to play a board game against a cheater writing up the rule book as they go?
eddiememphis
06-20-2021, 19:01
This means ANY complaint[s] about a person being "harassed" . The person who the complaint is levied against , can lose their gun rights.
Couple this with SB 280-
Colorado?s laws around bias-motivated crimes ? also known as hate crimes ? would be expanded under this bill, which says that bias only needs to be part of a defendant?s motivation for the offense to be considered a hate crime. The bill would also make the crime of harassment, when motivated by bias, a Victim Rights Act crime, which provides a victim certain rights.
Someone claiming harassment can get your guns taken away, get you additional criminal penalties and go after you in civil court. With the hundreds of likely left leaning judges appointed by Hickenlooper and Polis, a favorable decision for a firearm owner is unlikely.
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What is harrasment in CO law?
Making fun of an outfit? Laughing at pink hair? Cracking a joke?
Is tailgating harassment? Giving the middle finger? Filing a complaint over loud music?
Great-Kazoo
06-20-2021, 20:49
What is harrasment in CO law?
Making fun of an outfit? Laughing at pink hair? Cracking a joke?
Well, since you asked. here it is described at the federal level. Knowing the democrats penchant for making sure anything they do, out does the feds. I would say. Breathing in the same area as someone else, is harassment. FORGET about not wearing a mask.
https://www.va.gov/ORMDI/HPP.asp
Don't even ask, ok ask. About the VA's / feds guidelines for confrontation, or raising ones voice, at the VA.
kidicarus13
06-20-2021, 22:31
What is harrasment in CO law?
(1) A person commits harassment if, with intent to harass, annoy, or alarm another person, he or she:
(a) Strikes, shoves, kicks, or otherwise touches a person or subjects him to physical contact; or
(b) In a public place directs obscene language or makes an obscene gesture to or at another person; or
(c) Follows a person in or about a public place; or
(d) Repealed by?Laws 1990, H.B.90-1118, ? 11?.
(e) Directly or indirectly initiates communication with a person or directs language toward another person, anonymously or otherwise, by telephone, telephone network, data network, text message, instant message, computer, computer network, computer system, or other interactive electronic medium in a manner intended to harass or threaten bodily injury or property damage, or makes any comment, request, suggestion, or proposal by telephone, computer, computer network, computer system, or other interactive electronic medium that is obscene; or
(f) Makes a telephone call or causes a telephone to ring repeatedly, whether or not a conversation ensues, with no purpose of legitimate conversation; or
(g) Makes repeated communications at inconvenient hours that invade the privacy of another and interfere in the use and enjoyment of another's home or private residence or other private property; or
(h) Repeatedly insults, taunts, challenges, or makes communications in offensively coarse language to, another in a manner likely to provoke a violent or disorderly response.
(1.5) As used in this section, unless the context otherwise requires, ?obscene? means a patently offensive description of ultimate sexual acts or solicitation to commit ultimate sexual acts, whether or not said ultimate sexual acts are normal or perverted, actual or simulated, including masturbation, cunnilingus, fellatio, anilingus, or excretory functions.
(2) Harassment pursuant to subsection (1) of this section is a class 3 misdemeanor; except that harassment is a class 1 misdemeanor if the offender commits harassment pursuant to subsection (1) of this section with the intent to intimidate or harass another person because of that person's actual or perceived race; color; religion; ancestry; national origin; physical or mental disability, as defined in?section 18-9-121(5)(a)?; or sexual orientation, as defined in?section 18-9-121(5)(b)?.
(3) Any act prohibited by paragraph (e) of subsection (1) of this section may be deemed to have occurred or to have been committed at the place at which the telephone call, electronic mail, or other electronic communication was either made or received.
So intentionally driving the speed limit on a 2 lane road and smiling at the a hole behind you tailgating could be considered harassment and I loose my guns. This amuses me at the total vague stupidity in laws.
So intentionally driving the speed limit on a 2 lane road and smiling at the a hole behind you tailgating could be considered harassment and I loose my guns. This amuses me at the total vague stupidity in laws.
Well, on top of the 2 Lane Highway left lane driving law we have here that you would also be violating.
2 lane highway is 1 direction each way not 2 lanes in one direction. That would be a multilane highway.
Seamonkey
06-21-2021, 09:03
https://www.reporterherald.com/2021/06/19/colorado-governor-three-gun-bills-boulder-shooting/
cruelty to animals...
P.A.U.S.E. act anyone?
(1) A person commits harassment if, with intent to harass, annoy, or alarm another person, he or she:
(a) Strikes, shoves, kicks, or otherwise touches a person or subjects him to physical contact; or
(b) In a public place directs obscene language or makes an obscene gesture to or at another person; or
(c) Follows a person in or about a public place; or
(d) Repealed by?Laws 1990, H.B.90-1118, ? 11?.
(e) Directly or indirectly initiates communication with a person or directs language toward another person, anonymously or otherwise, by telephone, telephone network, data network, text message, instant message, computer, computer network, computer system, or other interactive electronic medium in a manner intended to harass or threaten bodily injury or property damage, or makes any comment, request, suggestion, or proposal by telephone, computer, computer network, computer system, or other interactive electronic medium that is obscene; or
(f) Makes a telephone call or causes a telephone to ring repeatedly, whether or not a conversation ensues, with no purpose of legitimate conversation; or
(g) Makes repeated communications at inconvenient hours that invade the privacy of another and interfere in the use and enjoyment of another's home or private residence or other private property; or
(h) Repeatedly insults, taunts, challenges, or makes communications in offensively coarse language to, another in a manner likely to provoke a violent or disorderly response.
(1.5) As used in this section, unless the context otherwise requires, ?obscene? means a patently offensive description of ultimate sexual acts or solicitation to commit ultimate sexual acts, whether or not said ultimate sexual acts are normal or perverted, actual or simulated, including masturbation, cunnilingus, fellatio, anilingus, or excretory functions.
(2) Harassment pursuant to subsection (1) of this section is a class 3 misdemeanor; except that harassment is a class 1 misdemeanor if the offender commits harassment pursuant to subsection (1) of this section with the intent to intimidate or harass another person because of that person's actual or perceived race; color; religion; ancestry; national origin; physical or mental disability, as defined in?section 18-9-121(5)(a)?; or sexual orientation, as defined in?section 18-9-121(5)(b)?.
(3) Any act prohibited by paragraph (e) of subsection (1) of this section may be deemed to have occurred or to have been committed at the place at which the telephone call, electronic mail, or other electronic communication was either made or received.
It’s scary how soft our society has become.
wctriumph
06-21-2021, 11:18
In all fairness, life will never be fair ...
No matter how many laws are created to manage the human condition ...
bellavite1
06-21-2021, 12:40
So, at this point, is it challenge-able and is anyone in the process of challenging it?
So, at this point, is it challenge-able and is anyone in the process of challenging it?
Well, there was the original suit by Jon Caldera that was challenging the constitutionality of the Boulder ordinance and kept getting declined because higher courts kept saying it was a state issue.. well now it’s a constitutional issue again.
.455_Hunter
06-21-2021, 13:21
Any law that goes into place that seemingly restricts rights as viewed by progressives gets an immediate injunction before the ink is dry.
Any law that goes into place that seemingly restricts rights as viewed by conservatives/libertarians much be in full effect for years (if ever) to even get a sniff of consideration for legal relief.
Zundfolge
06-21-2021, 15:47
(1) A person commits harassment if, with intent to harass, annoy, or alarm another person, he or she:
(b) In a public place directs obscene language or makes an obscene gesture to or at another person;
"obscene language" ... so you tell a liberal the truth in public it could cost you your second amendment rights in Colorado.
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