.45 ACP with STEEL cases

[BlasterBob]

Can anyone please tell me what all years the .45ACP, made here in the USA, was loaded in STEEL cases?? I thought steel instead of brass was substituted only during WWII days. Anyone know? TIA

[Gman]

https://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/286570-steel-cased-ec-45-ammunition/


Development of steel cased .45 ACP was started at Frankford Arsenal in mid-1942, then later that year at Evansville, Remington and Western Cartridge. Mass production of steel cased rounds occurred from late 1942 until mid-1944, using various coating and gilding processes. Frankford Arsenal even produced small lots of steel M1911 Ball in 1945.

Steel cased rounds were typically identified by a lot number with the prefix "S" or suffix "S" or "X". If the lot contained both steel cases and steel bullet jackets, then the suffix "XC" was used. Production of M1911 Ball was drastically reduced in 1944 due to less use in combat than anticipated. By the end of WWII over 4 billion rounds of M1911 Ball had been produced. Of that total, Evansville accounted for over 90% of the rounds manufactured.

Changes in the headstamp font is not uncommon as the dies got worn from use and had to be replaced. Headstamp variations can be a collection parameter in and of itself, as can carton labels.

[BlasterBob]

Thanks Gman. So looks like the steel.45ACP cases were mfgd mostly in 1945 and 46. I recent.y came across a partial box of .45ACP with steel cases marked TW 56 and have the Twin Cities box for them. If 56, as marked is correct, I wonder why steel cases were used domestically about ten years AFTER WWII.

[Gman]

You have exceeded my Google-Fu. [Coffee]

Time period would be Korean War production.

Couldn't find anything here: https://cartridgecollector.net/45-acp

[BlasterBob]

Thanks Gman. I checked the list you referred to and found that during the Korean “war” Twin Cities did make some steel case .45 ACP starting in 1953. They discontinued it due to problems with steel cases. So, my TW 1956 are not bogus. Good to know!!

[Gman]

Well, I could have said the Korean UN Police Action aka Korean Conflict, but I didn't want to confuse anybody.[Coffee]

[Great-Kazoo]

Well, I could have said the Korean UN Police Action aka Korean Conflict, but I didn't want to confuse anybody.[Coffee]

Not me, my dad was in the police action. One of his comments was, there were a lot of uniforms, but not 1 looked like they were police.

To his death he was still pissed. McArthur wasn't allowed to continue north, as well as relieved of command by Truman .

[BlasterBob]

My older brother was in that particular “Police action/war/conflict”. Told me that he had gotten a Chinese “burp”gun for ME but some Officer “wanted” it more than he did.

[Gman]

My dad got drafted into the Army after the Korean conflict was over. Never had to deploy for combat.

[Gman]

Not me, my dad was in the police action. One of his comments was, there were a lot of uniforms, but not 1 looked like they were police.

To his death he was still pissed. McArthur wasn't allowed to continue north, as well as relieved of command by Truman .
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[Great-Kazoo]

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