View Full Version : Branson's Virgin Galactic & Bezos Blue Origin Space Launches
Richard Branson is scheduled to launch in his Virgin Galactic 'spacecraft' today at 12:30 MT. They were delayed from the original 8:30 MT launch do to weather.
CBSN is going to provide live coverage if anyone is interested.
I saw the headline and my first reaction was that there were a bunch of rednecks in Missouri launching a rocket of some sort, possibly fueled by beer.
I had this thought that it would be poetic if Branson and Bezos blew up in big fireballs trying to outdo each other. I felt bad about it in that I wouldn't want anyone else to be harmed.
Just read this article that he already did it that was posted 4 minutes ago. Is this pre-written and they just accidentally posted it?
https://apnews.com/article/virgin-galactic-launch-richard-branson-37fd721264b1421f8a1223ee5e5626e3
Richard Branson is scheduled to launch in his Virgin Galactic 'spacecraft' today at 12:30 MT. They were delayed from the original 8:30 MT launch do to weather.
CBSN is going to provide live coverage if anyone is interested.
Check that link, Youtube has it live.
Delfuego
07-11-2021, 10:01
I saw the headline and my first reaction was that there were a bunch of rednecks in Missouri launching a rocket of some sort, possibly fueled by beer.Me too :) Or possibly "Christians in Branson Missouri preempt rapture with space launch"
Well, that coverage sucked.
Bailey Guns
07-11-2021, 11:00
Not nearly as exciting as the Space X stuff. Still pretty impressive for a private company. On the other hand, test pilots were flying faster and higher with the X-15 60 years ago...without the aid of massive computer assisted systems.
Just massive government assistance.
Didn't see it. Did he barely touch space before he fled back to earth? Is the galaxy still a virgin?
theGinsue
07-11-2021, 11:45
Nice and all, but without crossing the Karman line I don't actually consider it "space flight". Just my opinion.
Didn't see it. Did he barely touch space before he fled back to earth? Is the galaxy still a virgin?
That's how Virgin Galactic works. Space tourism is about touching space. They don't linger, they don't orbit. It's up, and then back to a landing. It's the lazy wealthy person's summiting of Everest.
50 miles is considered the edge of space and he went 53 miles up.
theGinsue
07-11-2021, 18:19
Understand that I'm impressed with Bransons achievement, but I still don't accept it as "entering space". The "edge of space" is a debatable thing. Some people/entities/organizations claim anywhere from 18 1/2 miles to over a million miles up. This makes for a pretty wide margin to work from.
The U.S. has been reluctant to set an official standard but the United Nations and a slew of official organizations (including many in the U.S.) uses the Karman Line - which is 62 miles above Earth's surface (@ "sea level"). In fact, the FAA says anyone who flies above 60 miles up "earns their astronaut wings". The Karman Line is the altitude where traditional aircraft can no longer effectively fly which is why it is used by so many as the defining line between earth and space. It's also the point where atmospheric entry/re-entry occurs. This typically requires heat shielding due to the atmospheric drag and aerodynamic heating which is huge with supersonic/hypersonic objects. Neither of these are big factors in slower moving objects (such as going straight up to about the Karman Line and falling right back down under just gravitational force speed [9.80 m/s2] as they don't tend to have enough speed to generate excessive heat.
If you recall, Red Bull sponsored a guy that did a freefall from a platform attached to a hot air balloon that made it up to 39 miles above the surface of the Earth. While 13 miles short of Bransons trip, I find that a bit more impressive.
NASA and the faa recognize 50miles and fai 100 km. I’m guessing that the 100 km was because it was a “cute” number - around 52-53 miles up the atmosphere is too thin to sustain flight
Didn't see it. Did he barely touch space before he fled back to earth? Is the galaxy still a virgin?
Hahahahahahahaha!!![ROFL1]
"If you recall, Red Bull sponsored a guy that did a freefall from a platform attached to a hot air balloon that made it up to 39 miles above the surface of the Earth. While 13 miles short of Bransons trip, I find that a bit more impressive."
There is a documentary, "14 Minutes from Earth", Google executive breaks that free fall record. Although the project at times looks like it's run by monkeys with greased beach balls.
For $250K you get 4 minutes of weightlessness.
That's how Virgin Galactic works. Space tourism is about touching space. They don't linger, they don't orbit. It's up, and then back to a landing. It's the lazy wealthy person's summiting of Everest.
exactly.
if they can orbit the earth, much higher altitude and velocity needed. If so, the 250k travel will cost 5m per ticket.
3min of gravity less FEELING is probably from the fall like zero g plane than orbiting.
still the point is that they went to the space.
https://youtu.be/FEWy6jyBLfM
I've been seriously considering a Zero-G flight for some time. The lure for me is the feeling of weightlessness, not the desire to claim I've been to space.
The advantage of a Zero-G flight is that they give you several different "gravities", so you can see what it'd be like to, say, walk on the moon. Plus the weightless parabolas of course.
But if you want to boast that you've been to space, Zero-G doesn't cut it.
O2
I would probably have to settle for 3-4 second drop tower at an amusement park.
:)
I'm going to discredit and belittle the achievements of others, knowing full well that I'll never even come close to accomplishing something similar in my life.
Only bozo and his employee made fun of virgin.
the fact is that virgin did went to the space.
rich dummies (potential pax) probably expect full of microgravity during the trip, because of the movie portrays space=no gravity
[LOL]
0g or 11g at the space? :)
https://youtu.be/X_8ILn5kdBo
I'm going to discredit and belittle the achievements of others, knowing full well that I'll never even come close to accomplishing something similar in my life.
Considering that there are people now collecting social security checks that were wearing diapers while they watched people go to space.... What is the achievement? That doesn't mean this isn't something, it just isn't an achievement beyond billionaire dick measurements in trying to beat the other billionaire. I feel like...with the technology in 2021 this is the best they can do? Hilarious.
Spacex bringing astronauts safely to ISS was an achievement.
A billionare briefly kissing 250k elevation in a glorified plane is not.
I suppose the newness of private space enterprise doesn't change the fact the tech and ability is hardly new.
RblDiver
07-12-2021, 12:29
Space, space, wanna go to space! Space, yes please space! Space!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVn1oQL9sWg
BushMasterBoy
07-12-2021, 14:39
If you want to go the speed of light cubed, you need a large carbon crystal with a photo fission reactor. Pump the crystal with light from the reactor. Lase the enveloping gas, surrounding the craft with plasma. Once you you are in a plasma, the rules of physics change. I just call it Space Force One...
let the drama begin...
https://jalopnik.com/richard-branson-didnt-go-to-space-1847274538/amp
Circuits
07-14-2021, 12:08
As with many things, the US and the rest of the world define "space" differently. The US definition being 50mi. and the international definition being the Karman line at 100km(~62mi).
Beardy Branson will be given a set of US commercial astronaut wings, but no one outside the US and his companies will likely acknowledge the feat, and only way he'll actually get to orbit is to buy a ride on someone else's rocket. SpaceShip Two is actually capable of 110km or so, but I guess they chickened out on the rocket fuel for safety, or maybe it can't make it that high with up to six passengers and two pilots on board?
The higher it goes, the faster, more difficult and dangerous the re-entry phase. From 87km, the vehicle is up to about 1500kph when it hits atmosphere at 50mi. From 110km, it'd be going 2800kph as it enters the atmosphere, and I don't know if it can handle that much speed in the feather configuration. The other ship, VSS Enterprise accidentally deployed the feather during its powered ascent, which can hit 4000kph, and disintegrated, during testing.
Bezos ain't going to orbit, either, but his little phallic rocket will actually peek above the Karman line, briefly, to 107km or so, and a significantly longer period of free fall.
A dude does a cool stuff and so many negativity. I blame it on Bozo and his employees.
My definition of space is less than 1% of gravity without rotating earth at certain V.
so doing newton's G m1m2/r^2 , no one went to the space. :)
I just saw Bozo's launch. Very straight forward physics and astro/aero dynamics.
1. accelerate up.
2. after reaching relative max, free fall without air resistance to feel zero g.
3. from free fall at 9.8m/s^2 for x amount of minutes to feel zero gravity, it start slowing down at a very fast rate to reach variable terminal v.
that is where I was curious how they can take the negative acceleration from air resistance and can reach slow enough.
4. how other PAX had to deal with annoying Jeff Bozo's laugher and yelling during the launch/fall.
I heard that annoying laughter on cnbc since 1998-2005.
I thought he stopped doing the annoying laugh, but I was wrong.
https://youtu.be/jyRKGjVEo0M
hollohas
07-20-2021, 13:02
I'm most impressed by the booster landing. In the video it looked like it was coming in too fast and unstable...but it corrected, slowed down and stuck the landing. SiFi coolness right there.
bellavite1
07-20-2021, 13:26
I wish there was a more dignified way to go to space than riding a giant dildo...
Not that I'll ever have the cash...
Aloha_Shooter
07-20-2021, 13:47
As with many things, the US and the rest of the world define "space" differently. The US definition being 50mi. and the international definition being the Karman line at 100km(~62mi).
Beardy Branson will be given a set of US commercial astronaut wings, but no one outside the US and his companies will likely acknowledge the feat, and only way he'll actually get to orbit is to buy a ride on someone else's rocket. SpaceShip Two is actually capable of 110km or so, but I guess they chickened out on the rocket fuel for safety, or maybe it can't make it that high with up to six passengers and two pilots on board?
The higher it goes, the faster, more difficult and dangerous the re-entry phase. From 87km, the vehicle is up to about 1500kph when it hits atmosphere at 50mi. From 110km, it'd be going 2800kph as it enters the atmosphere, and I don't know if it can handle that much speed in the feather configuration. The other ship, VSS Enterprise accidentally deployed the feather during its powered ascent, which can hit 4000kph, and disintegrated, during testing.
Bezos ain't going to orbit, either, but his little phallic rocket will actually peek above the Karman line, briefly, to 107km or so, and a significantly longer period of free fall.
That's (US versus everyone else) a bit simplistic. There is no single US definition for the edge of space either. Other countries generally haven't been dealing in human spaceflight so never bothered with definitions until relatively recently. While the DoD awards the astronaut badge to personnel who complete an operational mission at least 50 miles above earth, suborbital missions really haven't been an issue since the end of the Mercury program. In the space surveillance community, our models have generally considered 110 km as "atmospheric penetration" since that's roughly the point where an object in a circular orbit basically drops in (i.e., drag increases and the orbit shrinks as it gets lower but objects generally drop in and burn up or skip off when they hit 110).
The fact of the matter is that atmosphere loses density gradually rather than suddenly at some specific point. The Karmann line is much like any other arbitrary line but it has the advantage of being closer to physical effects than the 50 mi/80 km mark set for the astronaut badge.
Grant H.
07-20-2021, 14:14
Watched it, thought it was cool, also thought it looked like a giant dildo, and I still like SpaceX better.
hollohas
07-20-2021, 14:41
Seriously. That rocket is absurd.
Bailey Guns
07-20-2021, 15:12
So much of that video really looked fake to me for some reason, though I know it wasn't. Too many movies maybe. Or maybe it was the fact I'm accustomed to seeing the massive amounts of smoke and flame from shuttle and other large NASA boosters that were lacking with the Blue Origin. Landing that booster is some seriously cool stuff.
Seriously. That rocket is absurd.
Form follows function. Its shape is a simple solution to a number of problems.
O2
I agree with the booster landings, never gets old watching those!
Also very cool that Wally Funk finally took a ride, she was one pumped up lady!!
Form follows function. Its shape is a simple solution to a number of problems.
What problems are solved by circumcising the rocket?
SideShow Bob
07-20-2021, 19:03
What problems are solved by circumcising the rocket?
Easier to keep clean,
no smell or smegma buildup..........
theGinsue
07-20-2021, 19:22
Little known fact:
While SpaceX was the first to make a nominal landing of a booster, that rocket (booster) only reached a peak altitude of just over 800 ft.
About a year and a half later, Jeff Bezos Blue Origin New Shepard booster (yes the booster that launched today...or at least the same model) was the first rocket booster to ever successfully land after reaching space.
After growing up watching boosters detach then dump in the ocean, I find the whole booster landing thing amazing. I still recall watching the video of 2 boosters landing near simultaneously down at the Cape. It looked like something straight out of sci-fi.
I guess the next step for Bezos is to accomplish orbital space flight with re-entry. Will be interesting to see.
whitewalrus
07-20-2021, 20:09
Little known fact:
While SpaceX was the first to make a nominal landing of a booster, that rocket (booster) only reached a peak altitude of just over 800 ft.
About a year and a half later, Jeff Bezos Blue Origin New Shepard booster (yes the booster that launched today...or at least the same model) was the first rocket booster to ever successfully land after reaching space.
After growing up watching boosters detach then dump in the ocean, I find the whole booster landing thing amazing. I still recall watching the video of 2 boosters landing near simultaneously down at the Cape. It looked like something straight out of sci-fi.
I guess the next step for Bezos is to accomplish orbital space flight with re-entry. Will be interesting to see.
Weren?t the ones from the space shuttle program retrieved and refurbished for additional uses? Think only the tank was one time use. Not sure what they did with the other ones before that.
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who next bruh.. North Korea Mars-99 express?
:)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hwasong-15#:~:text=North%20Korea%20claimed%20the%20missile ,total%20time%20of%2053%20minutes.
What problems are solved by circumcising the rocket?
It grows back.
Weren?t the ones from the space shuttle program retrieved and refurbished for additional uses? Think only the tank was one time use. Not sure what they did with the other ones before that.
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They didn't land under control, they fell back into the ocean.
Solid rocket boosters are simply not the same. You light them and they burn until they're done. There is no throttle control or shutting them off and reigniting them.
Blue Origin is probably the simplest solution for space tourism.
okay. these BO rocket and those nasa mission is completely different.
Blue Origin just go up near straight enough and land back to where they started from (~10min earth spin).
Those nasa mission, they need to gain well enough velocity to match an orbiting space station significantly further away.
Going back down to earth is also significantly more difficult.
hollohas
07-21-2021, 08:07
okay. these BO rocket and those nasa mission is completely different.
Blue Origin just go up near straight enough and land back to where they started from (~10min earth spin)
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I think it's even more impressive than that.
An online calculator I found said the rotational speed at 30deg Lat is roughly 900mph. Or 15 mi per min.
10 minute flight time = 150 miles spin.
I read that the booster landed 5 miles away from the launch site. So that booster did a lot more than simply go straight up. I'm no rocket scientist not did I stay at a holiday inn last night, but my guess is that rocket went up at an angle and let the earth catch up with it's trajectory as it came down. Pretty sweet.
this earth spin reminds me of E?tv?s and Coriolis.
Glad that I did not goof around during my AP physics C course in High school (94-95).
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/coriolis-effect/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E%C3%B6tv%C3%B6s_experiment
JohnnyDrama
07-21-2021, 12:58
Good job Jeff Bezos.
AOC disagrees.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/aoc-blasts-bezos-after-space-voyage-says-that-amazon-workers-paid-for-trip-with-lower-wages-inhumane-workplace/ar-AAMn2E7?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
Anything that gets her riled up can't be all that bad.
So New Shepard is a single engine rocket. Which means that Blue Origin is where SpaceX was in 2008.
O2
Aloha_Shooter
07-21-2021, 14:46
So New Shepard is a single engine rocket. Which means that Blue Origin is where SpaceX was in 2008.
Does it matter? The more options we have going downstream, the better. The French and Japanese had HDTV 15 or 20 years before the US but I think the international consensus is that American HDTV format is superior because we were able to learn from their mistakes and take advantage of newer technologies. The question here shouldn't be how many engines they have but how much payload they can put into what kinds of orbits and how solid their business case is.
I don't like Bezos or Musk as people but I applaud their efforts in advancing civil space launch.
So....did the circumcised rocket penetrate space?
So....did the circumcised rocket penetrate space?
Just the tip, then it pulled out. Everyone survived and no one new was created.
So New Shepard is a single engine rocket. Which means that Blue Origin is where SpaceX was in 2008.
O2
Their mission goals are not the same, so I don't know why you compare them to each other.
I think it's even more impressive than that.
An online calculator I found said the rotational speed at 30deg Lat is roughly 900mph. Or 15 mi per min.
10 minute flight time = 150 miles spin.
I read that the booster landed 5 miles away from the launch site. So that booster did a lot more than simply go straight up. I'm no rocket scientist not did I stay at a holiday inn last night, but my guess is that rocket went up at an angle and let the earth catch up with it's trajectory as it came down. Pretty sweet.
The assumption that a 10 minute flight time = 150 miles of orbital rotation below a rocket ignores the fact that the rocket (and booster) have the same angular momentum as the earth. If they launch straight up from the perspective of the launch pad, they are in fact, rotating with the earth too. So the rocket's angular momentum is also 15 miles per minute from a fixed perspective.
So I doubt the booster was doing anything too special.
hollohas
07-22-2021, 10:06
The assumption that a 10 minute flight time = 150 miles of orbital rotation below a rocket ignores the fact that the rocket (and booster) have the same angular momentum as the earth. If they launch straight up from the perspective of the launch pad, they are in fact, rotating with the earth too. So the rocket's angular momentum is also 15 miles per minute from a fixed perspective.
So I doubt the booster was doing anything too special.Touche
BushMasterBoy
07-23-2021, 11:11
The Pentagon is considering moving cargo by rocket. 80 tons anywhere on the planet in less than a hour.
86861
Their mission goals are not the same, so I don't know why you compare them to each other.
For New Shepard, sure, but this has all been a step towards the development of Blue Origin's New Glenn rocket which likely would compete directly with SpaceX.
I'm happy to see that these space tourists are not "astronauts" thanks to clarification from the FAA.
https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/FAA_Order_8800.2.pdf
to my defn
Driver: passenger
Pilot: passenger
Astronaut : passenger
Cosmonaut: Dennis Tito
to merriam-webster [flamingo]
Definition of astronaut
: a person who travels beyond the earth's atmosphere
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/astronaut
BushMasterBoy
07-24-2021, 15:18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic1uBV7S6Jc
Aloha_Shooter
07-24-2021, 19:59
to my defn
Driver: passenger
Pilot: passenger
Astronaut : passenger
Cosmonaut: Dennis Tito
to merriam-webster [flamingo]
Definition of astronaut
: a person who travels beyond the earth's atmosphere
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/astronaut
Wish I could tell you to tell these guys they were passengers
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seradata.com%2FSSI%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F03%2F10061928.jpg
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but sadly CAPT Dale Gardner (guy on the left below) died 7 years ago
http://www.trbimg.com/img-53124fe7/turbine/la-me-dale-gardner-20140302-001/580/580x514
Wish I could tell you to tell these guys they were passengers
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seradata.com%2FSSI%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F03%2F10061928.jpg
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but sadly CAPT Dale Gardner (guy on the left below) died 7 years ago
http://www.trbimg.com/img-53124fe7/turbine/la-me-dale-gardner-20140302-001/580/580x514
They had mission(s).
Virgin galactic, blue origin, and Tito was just there for fun/curiosity.
It's like watching a guy take an inflatable raft out on the beach, go out 100 feet and let the rolling waves feed him back, then announce he is an captain of the open ocean upon his return.
JohnnyDrama
07-25-2021, 10:25
It's like watching a guy take an inflatable raft out on the beach, go out 100 feet and let the rolling waves feed him back, then announce he is an captain of the open ocean upon his return.
Reminds me of the story "Adventure at the Seaside" in the Paddington book "A Bear called Paddington."
That's the premise of the story/chapter. Except Paddington doesn't do it on purpose or to seek fame. For those of you who have read Paddington, it's just one of his adventures. For the those who don't know who Paddington is, you should check out one of the books. I should probably read at least the first one again. In light of current events, those books may have a whole new level of relevance.
Circuits
07-25-2021, 11:06
I'm happy to see that these space tourists are not "astronauts" thanks to clarification from the FAA.
https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/FAA_Order_8800.2.pdf
Which part of that clarification do you think disqualifies the tourists?
Aloha_Shooter
07-25-2021, 17:59
Which part of that clarification do you think disqualifies the tourists?
Meet the requirements for flight crew qualifications and training under Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations (14 CFR) part 460.
Demonstrated activities during flight that were essential to public safety, or contributed to human space flight safety.
Circuits
07-25-2021, 18:22
And you don't think they came up with a bullshit crew cert based on their pre flight training and whatever silly activity they performed? Future paying passengers may be excluded, but I bet this bunch get wings...
Aloha_Shooter
07-25-2021, 18:32
And you don't think they came up with a bullshit crew cert based on their pre flight training and whatever silly activity they performed? Future paying passengers may be excluded, but I bet this bunch get wings...
No, I don't think they met the requirements listed at https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/460.5:
? 460.5 Crew qualifications and training.
(a) Each crew member must -
(1) Complete training on how to carry out his or her role on board or on the ground so that the vehicle will not harm the public; and
(2) Train for his or her role in nominal and non-nominal conditions. The conditions must include -
(i) Abort scenarios; and
(ii) Emergency operations.
(b) Each member of a flight crew must demonstrate an ability to withstand the stresses of space flight, which may include high acceleration or deceleration, microgravity, and vibration, in sufficient condition to safely carry out his or her duties so that the vehicle will not harm the public.
(c) A pilot and a remote operator must -
(1) Possess and carry an FAA pilot certificate with an instrument rating.
(2) Possess aeronautical knowledge, experience, and skills necessary to pilot and control the launch or reentry vehicle that will operate in the National Airspace System (NAS). Aeronautical experience may include hours in flight, ratings, and training.
(3) Receive vehicle and mission-specific training for each phase of flight by using one or more of the following -
(i) A method or device that simulates the flight;
(ii) An aircraft whose characteristics are similar to the vehicle or that has similar phases of flight to the vehicle ;
(iii) Flight testing; or
(iv) An equivalent method of training approved by the FAA through the license or permit process.
(4) Train in procedures that direct the vehicle away from the public in the event the flight crew abandons the vehicle during flight; and
(5) Train for each mode of control or propulsion, including any transition between modes, such that the pilot or remote operator is able to control the vehicle.
(d) A pilot or a remote operator may demonstrate an equivalent level of safety to paragraph (c)(1) of this section through the license or permit process.
(e) Each crew member with a safety-critical role must possess and carry an FAA second-class airman medical certificate issued in accordance with 14 CFR part 67, no more than 12 months prior to the month of launch and reentry.
Great-Kazoo
07-25-2021, 19:41
What if UFO's are really
Billionaire Alien's ?
Dick Rocket
Celebrate Jeff Bezos? big day out to space with a $69 miniature dick rocket
A working, 1/66th replica of Blue Origins? New Shephard rocket
By James Vincent on August 26, 2021 7:11 am
https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/tldr/2021/8/26/22642560/blue-origins-new-shephard-model-rocket-estes
Read this morning that Virgin Galactic was grounded while an investigation is underway to find out why the flight with Branson deviated from the established flight corridor. Apparently it dropped lower than it should have on the return.
battlemidget
09-03-2021, 04:55
I read about the investigation into the deviation. I think this amounts to 'Sir Richard got some stick time' and the FAA is raising their eyebrows at it.
Aloha_Shooter
09-03-2021, 10:33
I read about the investigation into the deviation. I think this amounts to 'Sir Richard got some stick time' and the FAA is raising their eyebrows at it.
Do you have a source for this? I haven't seen that in any of the reports I've read. The pilot-in-charge could lose his certifications over something like that.
Holds on experimental craft like this are not uncommon, especially when they deviate from expectations. The FAA is still figuring out how to handle this new industry.
battlemidget
09-03-2021, 11:50
Do you have a source for this? I haven't seen that in any of the reports I've read. The pilot-in-charge could lose his certifications over something like that.
Holds on experimental craft like this are not uncommon, especially when they deviate from expectations. The FAA is still figuring out how to handle this new industry.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-red-warning-light-on-richard-bransons-space-flight
In a written statement, Virgin Galactic described the July 11th flight as “a safe and successful test flight that adhered to our flight procedures and training protocols.” The statement added, “When the vehicle encountered high altitude winds which changed the trajectory, the pilots and systems monitored the trajectory to ensure it remained within mission parameters. Our pilots responded appropriately to these changing flight conditions exactly as they have been trained and in strict accordance with our established procedures.”
my pure speculation is that Virgin Galactic did too much of those wave to simulate zero g.
BushMasterBoy
09-03-2021, 15:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NisZvIs4SKk
Was still pretty impressive for their first attempt.
ETA: Typo correction.
theGinsue
09-04-2021, 16:10
My guess is the big explosion was from someone in launch control at Vandy pushing the self-destruct button when the booster went all wonky.
Circuits
09-04-2021, 18:35
My guess is the big explosion was from someone in launch control at Vandy pushing the self-destruct button when the booster went all wonky.
Yes, it was posted that the flight was terminated by an invocation of the FTS when it went sideways post-supersonic. They tried to let it get as far away as possible to avoid too much collateral and cleanup, but one of the engines failed at T+0:19 during the boost phase.
cheaper but not a space travel.
This Luxury Space Balloon Lets You Glide 100,000 Feet Above the Earth With a Cocktail in Hand
Michael Verdon
Sun, September 5, 2021, 7:00 AM
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BladesNBarrels
09-06-2021, 14:38
cheaper but not a space travel.
This Luxury Space Balloon Lets You Glide 100,000 Feet Above the Earth With a Cocktail in Hand
Michael Verdon
Sun, September 5, 2021, 7:00 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/luxury-space-balloon-lets-glide-130000425.html
Splashdown pickup is via boat. After a successful test of its prototype in June, Space Perspective began selling tickets for flights beginning in 2024, at a cost of $125,000 per seat.
Okay, off to Go Fund Me!
https://i.imgur.com/9862ZIF.jpg
Google said 35k ft should see curvature of the earth, but it was still difficult to see it for me.
maybe 100k ft would definitely see it.
Google said 35k ft should see curvature of the earth, but it was still difficult to see it for me.
maybe 100k ft would definitely see it.
You should've seen it at 35k. If you go to 100k you'll see that the world is really just a turtles back. [gayafro]
You should've seen it at 35k. If you go to 100k you'll see that the world is really just a turtles back. [gayafro]
lol
I would need to see it carefully on a next trans-Atlantic/Pacific flight.
Aloha_Shooter
09-07-2021, 17:32
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-red-warning-light-on-richard-bransons-space-flight
In a written statement, Virgin Galactic described the July 11th flight as ?a safe and successful test flight that adhered to our flight procedures and training protocols.? The statement added, ?When the vehicle encountered high altitude winds which changed the trajectory, the pilots and systems monitored the trajectory to ensure it remained within mission parameters. Our pilots responded appropriately to these changing flight conditions exactly as they have been trained and in strict accordance with our established procedures.?
That statement doesn't even imply much less state what you did about giving Sir Richard some stick time. In fact, it states quite the opposite which was that the pilots responded to changing flight conditions as they were trained.
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