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Duman
09-27-2021, 18:25
Another train derailment....
https://apnews.com/article/amtrak-crash-montana-c8c3730849f568ca68b455eb23b49cef

Eric P
09-27-2021, 21:14
Why continue funding this 1700s mode of transport?

Aloha_Shooter
09-27-2021, 21:39
Why continue funding this 1700s mode of transport?
Maybe because it's still the most cost- and energy-efficient mode for transporting large items and massive quantities.

ruthabagah
09-27-2021, 22:19
Why continue funding this 1700s mode of transport?

Wow... I guess you don't travel much outside the country aren't you... In terms of railroads, yes the US is stuck in the 1700, when everyone else enjoys safe, reliable, high speed trains. You probably drank the kool-aid bs that planes are the safest means of transportation, when in fact trains are 10 times safer. (miles traveled vs number of trips).

BushMasterBoy
09-27-2021, 22:35
The Army has their own trains. That's how they move the Abrams M1 tanks at Fort Carson. The tanks are 70 tons.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btjoMLADLp4

KevDen2005
09-28-2021, 07:51
Why continue funding this 1700s mode of transport?

Well I promise the original builders had no idea how fast, deadly, and powerful these modern trains would become.

Stop Assault trains.

StagLefty
09-28-2021, 08:11
If we could save 1 caboose [Sarcasm2]

Eric P
09-28-2021, 13:46
Wow... I guess you don't travel much outside the country aren't you... In terms of railroads, yes the US is stuck in the 1700, when everyone else enjoys safe, reliable, high speed trains. You probably drank the kool-aid bs that planes are the safest means of transportation, when in fact trains are 10 times safer. (miles traveled vs number of trips).

I lived in Germany for 4 years. We rarely used the trains for leisure. Very inconvenient once you got somewhere.

For the size and low density of the US, trains, even high speed are inefficient and costly. A network of busses or shuttles to regional airports is far cheaper and can change routes without costs. It's why trains fail even when heavily subsidized with stolen money.

Even a high speed non stop train coast to coast is half the speed as a plane.

Gman
09-28-2021, 14:36
Well I promise the original builders had no idea how fast, deadly, and powerful these modern trains would become.


Stop Assault trains.



If we could save 1 caboose [Sarcasm2]

OMG. You guys are both funny. [LOL]

KevDen2005
09-28-2021, 17:06
If we could save 1 caboose [Sarcasm2]

I do love a good caboose

Duman
09-28-2021, 17:12
This song popped into my head.....

Conjunction Junction, what's your function?
Hooking up two boxcars and making 'em run right.......

BushMasterBoy
09-28-2021, 18:25
There is work going on locally to build a super fast train. They are planning on having it run the front range in some sort of tunnel. 745 mph train to Denver would be nice...


https://www.yahoo.com/now/hyperloop-prototype-built-tested-colorado-183147075.html

Eric P
09-28-2021, 21:03
There is work going on locally to build a super fast train. They are planning on having it run the front range in some sort of tunnel. 745 mph train to Denver would be nice...


https://www.yahoo.com/now/hyperloop-prototype-built-tested-colorado-183147075.html

Itt will not happen. At the speed self driving cars are coming, a self driving taxi orr bus fleet will be here before the 1st link of track is placed.

There is nothing high speed in the front range track scam except profiteering. It will still most likely take the same time to go from Pueblo to Denver. About 2 hrs. And that's if you board the train minutes before it departs. Stops at Colorado Springs & Caastle Rock at a minimum. These will likely be on the Kansas side of the cities so as to minimize land theft costs. Then once you get there you are connected to the standard slow transit services. DIA to downtown is close to 30 minutes on the train at a minimum. These high speed trains will be spaced 30 minutes apart. Stop 5 to 15 minutes per station. And will never hit addveerttised speed. Maybe 150-200 mph. Laws of physics for acceleration/deceleration and human comfort don't change on liberal dreams.

And then ridership numbers will never justify the cost to build and maintain. Who needs to travel those distances now that virtual work places have been shoved down our throat and how many have decided work from home is so nice?

The justification for a disabled veteran to get to the VA in Denver is laughable. Send a shuttle/ambulance to thier door and deliver the vet to the front door of the VA. No train can do that. A veteran would still need to get to the train station and then to the VA. Why change modes of transit?

Again trains are fixed route inflexible relics of the past unable to adapt to changing demographics and demands.

Trains are a scam. Self driving busses or shuttles are the future for mass transit.

BushMasterBoy
09-28-2021, 21:30
I took trains in the UK last year. Went from London to a US Air Force base, got within 4 miles of the base. Took a taxi from there. Went back to London by train. All my travels were by train almost. I really liked it, internet service on the trains. The trains were all fairly new and clean. You can take a train from London to Paris now. When I was stationed there the quickest way was across the English Channel was by hovercraft. I took a train from London to Bristol in 1977, it was travelling 125mph most of the trip.