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sbgixxer
10-21-2021, 11:31
Got this today from Excel Energy, "Colorado recently passed legislation that creates a sustainable funding source for energy assistance programs...". In the following paragraph it says Excel Energy customers will be paying for this legislation. This, just after they announced upping their bills by 10%... but don't worry, it'll only cost the, "average family about $20/month". [Rant1]
Batteriesnare
10-21-2021, 11:41
That's "sustainable" for the paying families....right?
def90
10-21-2021, 11:53
So.. your legislators voted in a new program that uses Excel as the funding collection mechanism for said program and you are mad at Excel for stealing from you?
sbgixxer
10-21-2021, 12:47
In part, yeah I get they're the messenger. I'm seeing that the people of Colorado seem, for the most part, content with what's going on. Eastern CA, is no joke. Yeah, I'm frustrated. I left my home state in large part because of the politics and I may need to do it again.
brutal
10-21-2021, 12:50
That's "sustainable" for the paying families....right?

But of course.

More taxes not taxes.

MF'ers.

This forced charity shit has to stop.
Grant H.
10-21-2021, 12:52
Longmont has said that we are going to see a hefty increase this year too...

I like my cheap electricity, but no more.
FoxtArt
10-21-2021, 13:08
So a lot more people will need to apply for leap or whatever with the rising prices, so they can pay $20 extra to get $20 extra back, and it'll cost $14.95 / each to administrate. US gov in a nutshell.
sbgixxer
10-21-2021, 13:10
I like my cheap electricity, but no more.

I bet your electricity will still be cheap, just not your bill.
sbgixxer
10-21-2021, 13:20
More taxes not taxes.

MF'ers.

This forced charity shit has to stop.

My thoughts exactly.
eddiememphis
10-21-2021, 16:17
Jon Caldara talks about it here-

https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com/2021/10/06/caldara-monopoly-utilities-puc-team-up-against-captive-ratepayers/
Grant H.
10-21-2021, 16:35
I bet your electricity will still be cheap, just not your bill.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51616016473_634ed42c15.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2mD8zqv)Panels (https://flic.kr/p/2mD8zqv) by ARNEWB (https://www.flickr.com/photos/61071044@N08/), on Flickr

These help.

Not grid tied, with lots of LiFePo4 batteries to run 24/7.
BladesNBarrels
10-21-2021, 17:03
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51616016473_634ed42c15.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2mD8zqv)Panels (https://flic.kr/p/2mD8zqv) by ARNEWB (https://www.flickr.com/photos/61071044@N08/), on Flickr

These help.

Not grid tied, with lots of LiFePo4 batteries to run 24/7.

Are those the solid state lithium batteries that eliminate fire risk?
BootScootin
10-21-2021, 17:13
Oh joy, I just love paying more for freeloaders [Mad]
Grant H.
10-21-2021, 17:19
Are those the solid state lithium batteries that eliminate fire risk?

Solid state in the sense that they aren't flooded lead acid, yes.

But yes, the LiFePo4 (lithium iron phosphate) chemistry is the one that won't light on fire. They are the current favorite for safety in solar systems.

Some of the newer chemistries like lithium titanate are intriguing, but still expensive.
arbol
10-21-2021, 18:43
Do you all realize that Denver is 1.5 billion dollars in debt, and that each of you owe $17,000 to cover this debt?

What the hell do you care if socialized government says that you have to pay more for energy?
DFBrews
10-21-2021, 18:52
Grant do you spot weld your own cells?
sbgixxer
10-21-2021, 20:22
Jon Caldara talks about it here-

https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com/2021/10/06/caldara-monopoly-utilities-puc-team-up-against-captive-ratepayers/

Wow, that sure didn't make me feel better.
MrPrena
10-21-2021, 22:32
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51616016473_634ed42c15.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2mD8zqv)Panels (https://flic.kr/p/2mD8zqv) by ARNEWB (https://www.flickr.com/photos/61071044@N08/), on Flickr

These help.

Not grid tied, with lots of LiFePo4 batteries to run 24/7.

I do not have a solar, but this was what I was thinking when I read about the post.
Grant H.
10-22-2021, 07:21
Grant do you spot weld your own cells?

For this solar stuff, no. I am using 280AH CALB cells.

The only picture I have quickly available, from when I was moving it to its new home in the garage.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51618698390_be9b2590d8.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2mDnjEs)rebuild (https://flic.kr/p/2mDnjEs) by ARNEWB (https://www.flickr.com/photos/61071044@N08/), on Flickr

For other projects (solar power for cameras in the back yard, lights in the shed, E-Dirtbike, etc) yes. I build and weld my own packs of 18650 and 32650 Li-ion and LiFePo4 cells. I have a number of cheap spot welders, one that I built, and then I also finally bought a k-weld. I got into salvaging cells for a while, and considered building 48V arrays for the house solar (not as crazy as HBPowerWall on Youtube, but similar idea). Way too many battery packs disassembled and cleaned up... Last count, I think I have 3k+ 18650's that I pulled out of "failed" laptop batteries...
9x 80 cell packs when I was planning a 14s80p 48V battery.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51617895146_422f509a91.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2mDicTq)Salvage 18650s (https://flic.kr/p/2mDicTq) by ARNEWB (https://www.flickr.com/photos/61071044@N08/), on Flickr