Violence in the vicinity of Aurora High Schools- Annoying statements by APD Chief?

[.455_Hunter]

There have been two instances of shootings on or near Aurora High Schools- six students were injured in a shooting Monday at Nome Park, near Central High School, and three students wounded today in the Hinkley High School parking lot.

Maybe I am an odd bird, but does the following tweet from APD Vanessa Williams annoy you?


My feelings regarding the shooting at @HinkleyHS today: "I'm angry! People know what happened here today. These kids have guns, they got them from somewhere. Parents need to start checking their kids phones, rooms and pay attention to who they are hanging around with.


So now any person under 18 who has access to firearms is some sort of a threat? How about focusing on worthless parents and their POS wannabe gangbanger kids?

The other thing I noticed are many of the cars in the student parking lot- how do high school kids drive late model crew cab trucks and full-size SUVs?

[clodhopper]

My opinion: Vanessa is a squishy lefty who really has no business filling that position. Almost every presser with her causes face palm.

[MrPrena]

Map for a potential gang shooting.

If I was an emporer, I would post some fedbois posted at Gateway next.


small note. I did not know a Range view was a aurora public school district.

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[BPTactical]

Hood Rats doing Hood Rat shit.


Meh.

[eddiememphis]

There have been two instances of shootings on or near Aurora High Schools- six students were injured in a shooting Monday at Nome Park, near Central High School, and three students wounded today in the Hinkley High School parking lot.

Maybe I am an odd bird, but does the following tweet from APD Vanessa Williams annoy you?

Not at all. She is spot on. Parents need to know what their children are up to, and correct them when they veer towards criminality.

The often cited problem is households that lack parental guidance often foster young men that seek gangs as family.

Williams is correct in her statement but doesn't go far enough.

[sroz]

Not at all. She is spot on. Parents need to know what their children are up to, and correct them when they veer towards criminality.

The often cited problem is households that lack parental guidance often foster young men that seek gangs as family.

Williams is correct in her statement but doesn't go far enough.

^^^Agree. For most parents on this forum where your kids probably have firearm smarts and a healthy respect for them, this is likely not an issue. You also know what firearms you have in your home and what access you allow your kids to have. As for gangbangers, there is a good probability that their parents don’t pay attention to what their kids are up to.

[.455_Hunter]

Not at all. She is spot on. Parents need to know what their children are up to, and correct them when they veer towards criminality.

The often cited problem is households that lack parental guidance often foster young men that seek gangs as family.

Williams is correct in her statement but doesn't go far enough.


Those parts I don't disagree with, just the gun comments.

As a teen, I had access to any weapon in our household at anytime- handguns, rifles, shotguns. I was usually armed after school and on the weekends when on our property or in NF/BLM areas.

I remember bristling at the stupid "kids and guns" diarrhea that spewed from the mouths of Webb/Schroder/Roemer in early 90's "Summer of Violence" episodes.

Maybe I am too sensitive.

[FoxtArt]

Thing is, anyone that those comments are directed towards is going to wholly not give a shit in the first place.

So in applied truth, the comment is an oxymoron. If they said "Any time we have a 'banger hit us up, we finna low-key bulldoze their 'rents home nowhaimean?" "Keep an eye on your crotch goblins and we'll give you a $200 certificate" might mildly accomplish getting the targeted audience to listen.

Political comments directed only towards parents that don't give a shit, expecting them to give a shit, is pragmatically a huge face palm.

ETA: I should say, I don't actually think of the phrases as suggestions. Only pointing out that shitty parents only care about: a) risk to themselves b) money for themselves.

[eddiememphis]

Map for a potential gang shooting.
If I was an emporer, I would post some fedbois posted at Gateway next.
small note. I did not know a Range view was a aurora public school district.



As a long time resident of A-Town, I may shed some insight. However, these are all personal anecdotes, so as usual, what do I know? I'm just a cook.


Central and Hinkley have always had the reputation of "bad" schools. There were gang fights between them when I was a kid in the 80's.

The "bad part of town" was always Five Points. Then it was Aurora, north of Colfax, west of I-225. Then it was 6th on the east side. Alameda, Mississippi...

I went to Gateway and it was getting bad then. I can relate personal tales and cite numerous anecdotes of white kids getting jumped and beaten or extorted by black kids.

I was involved in a gang fight between white and black kids. It didn't amount to much more than a lot of yelling and a couple guys fighting, but still scary when, what we thought were men showed up on their side. I was a skinny, 15 year old white boy.

I know a guy that may have been involved in administration at RangeView. He may have quit because of the gang problems. He may have cited Asian vs. Black. This was around 15 years ago, so obviously, things may have changed.

I am concerned about this city.

I hope the administration takes a strong stance about crime. Otherwise Aurora will continue to be a joke, regardless of being the 3rd largest city in Colorado.

[eddiememphis]

Those parts I don't disagree with, just the gun comments.

As a teen, I had access to any weapon in our household at anytime- handguns, rifles, shotguns. I was usually armed after school and on the weekends when on our property or in NF/BLM areas.

I remember bristling at the stupid "kids and guns" diarrhea that spewed from the mouths of Webb/Schroder/Roemer in early 90's "Summer of Violence" episodes.

Maybe I am too sensitive.

I think you are being too sensitive.

You weren't an asshole when you were a kid. You likely had some sort of moral guidance.

The kids that are shooting at each other did not or do not have that. They have no parents, friends, clergy or school to teach morality.

Instead, these young men turn to other other misguided young men to teach them how to act.

[MrPrena]

As a long time resident of A-Town, I may shed some insight. However, these are all personal anecdotes, so as usual, what do I know? I'm just a cook.


Central and Hinkley have always had the reputation of "bad" schools. There were gang fights between them when I was a kid in the 80's.

The "bad part of town" was always Five Points. Then it was Aurora, north of Colfax, west of I-225. Then it was 6th on the east side. Alameda, Mississippi...

I went to Gateway and it was getting bad then. I can relate personal tales and cite numerous anecdotes of white kids getting jumped and beaten or extorted by black kids.

I was involved in a gang fight between white and black kids. It didn't amount to much more than a lot of yelling and a couple guys fighting, but still scary when, what we thought were men showed up on their side. I was a skinny, 15 year old white boy.

I know a guy that may have been involved in administration at RangeView. He may have quit because of the gang problems. He may have cited Asian vs. Black. This was around 15 years ago, so obviously, things may have changed.

I am concerned about this city.

I hope the administration takes a strong stance about crime. Otherwise Aurora will continue to be a joke, regardless of being the 3rd largest city in Colorado.

I hear ya. We lived near North West of Chambers and Mississippi (now south of Kiser) during midbto late 90s.
Thanks to the senior can Stay at same school thing, I was able to go to school in CC school district instead of Gateway.

Aurora Public Library in Alameda back then was a good hangout place for weekday after-school for Gateway students. Another good place was the arcade place near Sable and expo.

Anyways. it was start to get rough when I heard something around 1999ish. I imagine it is probably much worse.

[theGinsue]

Not meaning to offend any of you who reside in/near Aurora now but due to the elevated crime in that town it is one place you will never find me after dark - and rarely, if ever, in the daylight.

I have no idea (and don't care to learn) what the racial demographics of Aurora is as I believe the crimes are being committed by members of every racial group. I do know that the overall financial demographics for Aurora reflects low income (there are certainly exceptions) and with the continuing rise is the cost of living and cost of housing, coupled with less parental involvement, high crime is a guaranteed truth - and it's likely going to cascade if our rate of inflation and cost of everything continues to rise. The sad thing is that this likely means high crime is coming to everyone's neighborhood as well and soon enough (if Dem policies keep getting pushed) the entire state and possibly nation, will be a cesspool of crime and filth before we die.

[BPTactical]

Not meaning to offend any of you who reside in/near Aurora now but due to the elevated crime in that town it is one place you will never find me after dark - and rarely, if ever, in the daylight.

I have no idea (and don't care to learn) what the racial demographics of Aurora is as I believe the crimes are being committed by members of every racial group. I do know that the overall financial demographics for Aurora reflects low income (there are certainly exceptions) and with the continuing rise is the cost of living and cost of housing, coupled with less parental involvement, high crime is a guaranteed truth - and it's likely going to cascade if our rate of inflation and cost of everything continues to rise. The sad thing is that this likely means high crime is coming to everyone's neighborhood as well and soon enough (if Dem policies keep getting pushed) the entire state and possibly nation, will be a cesspool of crime and filth before we die.


You coulda just said that Aurora is a shithole and saved the wear and tear on your keyboard Thomas[LOL][LOL]

[Vic Tory]

I coached boys sports for two different schools, covering 17 years ... ending two years ago. We played Rangeview each year.

Good kids.

[arbol]

As a resident of Aurora, I can find a good balance of work and life here.

It's not like we have some epidemic of violence.

We have the same kids, going to the same schools you do.

[SideShow Bob]

Until you can honestly state that the metro community that you live in is violence free and can prove prove it, you have no legs to stand on to call Aurora a bad place.
You know the media and the C & C of Denver are squashing reporting on crime there, just look at the 16th Ave. area, City Park area, and any urban area light rail station crime statistics and wonder why you never see news reports of them?..

[FoxtArt]

As a resident of the west slope, I can say the whole Denver metro area and surrounding is a shithole [ROFL1]

It's just some of you guys have well adapted to living in it and know how to pick mushrooms from the feces.

[SideShow Bob]

As a resident of the west slope, I can say the whole Denver metro area and surrounding is a shithole [ROFL1]

It's just some of you guys have well adapted to living in it and know how to pick mushrooms from the feces.

Coming from KS., I can tell you for a fact, the best “shrooms” come from the biggest piles…….

[.455_Hunter]

My point of the thread was not to single out Aurora.

The stupid happens everywhere...

https://www.koaa.com/news/covering-colorado/shooting-reported-near-memorial-park-in-colorado-springs

Maybe not necessarily a "school shooting", but targeting the same age group at a youth focused facility.

My beef was with the innuendo and patronizing attitude by the powers-that-be towards the concept that a teen with access to weapons is automatically some sort of threat.

[theGinsue]

My point of the thread was not to single out Aurora.

The stupid happens everywhere...

https://www.koaa.com/news/covering-colorado/shooting-reported-near-memorial-park-in-colorado-springs

Maybe not necessarily a "school shooting", but targeting the same age group at a youth focused facility.

My beef was with the innuendo and patronizing attitude by the powers-that-be towards the concept that a teen with access to weapons is automatically some sort of threat.

Your point was not missed on me, but sadly, my response was inappropriately focused on the city, not the poor attitude of those with granted authority who make misinformed comments about firearm access. My apologies.

[Delfuego]

I grew up in A-Town. I went to those schools. I was in those gang fights. I know people that were hurt and died. It's the same old shit (as BP said).

People seem to glaze over 2 major issues. Overpopulation, and poverty. More people, more problems. More poor people, more problems. People wanted the Denver area to be a "Big City"; not we got big city problems. This has f'-all to do with politicians running their yap, 2A or the media. It's an old story that's been repeated all over the world.

[arbol]

It's more than over population and poverty, it's a lack of respect for what is right and wrong.

It used to be that you would care, if you made right or wrong decisions. There would be consequences to your right and wrong decisions.

But today the government has put in safety nets, social spending, etc., that make the results of making wrong decisions, negligible.

[Delfuego]

You ever get tired of being a know it all? Sounds exhausting. Glad you were able link it back to the liberal boogieman somehow.