CPW confirms wolf depredation incident in Jackson County

[eddiememphis]

https://cpw.state.co.us/aboutus/Pages/News-Release-Details.aspx?NewsID=8030

?The results of this investigation indicated wolf tracks in the immediate vicinity of the carcass and wounds on the calf consistent with wolf depredation,? said CPW Area Wildlife Manager Kris Middledorf.

[BPTactical]

Ray Charles coulda seen that coming.

[.455_Hunter]

I bet a lot of sheep have already been lost.

[hollohas]

But wolf lovers will never admit this is a problem. A family member of mine was over this last weekend when I mentioned this story. I said it's only going to get worse and worse.

She wouldn't believe it. She was 100% steadfast in her belief that wolves don't attack livestock. She claimed only lone wolves attack livestock and that's rare. Packs of wolves ONLY attack wild game she said.

Seriously.

No mention of how wolves can tell the difference between wild game and livestock.

No mention of the actual reports of livestock kills.

No mention of the actual videos of wolves attacking herds.

No mention of the fact humans have had to protect herds from wolves since the dawn of time.

Nope. All that is fake news. Wolves don't attack livestock.

I also mentioned that wolves have decimated elk populations in some states. Nope. Apparently they only kill elk in healthy numbers.

I got whiplash from shaking my head so much. And my face hurts from all the facepalms.

[arbol]

“God creates dinosaurs, God kills dinosaurs, God creates man, man kills God, man brings back dinosaurs.”

[BPTactical]

“God creates dinosaurs, God kills dinosaurs, God creates man, man kills God, man brings back dinosaurs.”

Has a ring to it

[Sawin]

^Jurassic Park

[eddiememphis]

https://www.steamboatpilot.com/news/wolves-killed-a-dog-in-jackson-county-second-such-kill-in-last-month/

This time it was a dog. A border collie. One killed and another injured.

Note that these incidents are from wolves that wandered down from Wyoming. Colorado has not released any yet as they are still working out the details.

But they were forced to add or change rules already.

https://www.steamboatpilot.com/news/cpw-commission-approves-emergency-wolf-hazing-rules/

"Now they can use guard animals, fladry (colored flags on fencing), scare devices like propane cannons and range riders, as well as several non-lethal projectiles.

Hazing must not result in injury or death to a wolf, and if a rancher believes hazing techniques may have injured a wolf they must report the incident to Parks and Wildlife within 48 hours, the regulations say."

Caldara had a good line in his column.

"shoot, shovel and shut up."

https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com/2022/01/05/caldara-siccing-wolves-on-rural-colorado/

[MrPrena]

?God creates dinosaurs, God kills dinosaurs, God creates man, man kills God, man brings back dinosaurs.?


God is inside you..... make sense.
[LOL]

[.455_Hunter]

Killing of livestock that is appropriately compensated by DOW is one level. Killing family pets is a whole other ballgame, and not a good long-term strategy if the wolf pack wants to hang around.

[BPTactical]

Killing of livestock that is appropriately compensated by DOW is one level. Killing family pets is a whole other ballgame, and not a good long-term strategy if the wolf pack wants to hang around.

So we are going to blame the wolf for doing wolf stuff.

Maybe the fucking humans need to manage their pets when in wolf country.

Just a thought

[whitewalrus]

So we are going to blame the wolf for doing wolf stuff.

Maybe the fucking humans need to manage their pets when in wolf country.

Just a thought

Says it was on a ranch. They were likely to be working dogs.

But I do agree as I often see people letting their tiny dogs run way ahead of them on trails and such. Well they would make a nice snack for any predators ahead. At least the human has a good chance of scaring them off before they even know they are there.


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[whitewalrus]

Killing of livestock that is appropriately compensated by DOW is one level. Killing family pets is a whole other ballgame, and not a good long-term strategy if the wolf pack wants to hang around.

Often the compensation is not adequate. Not sure if they decided how much they will pay for wolf damage, but sometimes it is quite an insulting number compared to what the animal may have went for at market.


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[BushMasterBoy]

Now I want a pet wolf. You know, to protect me!

[.455_Hunter]

So we are going to blame the wolf for doing wolf stuff.

Maybe the fucking humans need to manage their pets when in wolf country.

Just a thought

I am not blaming the wolf. Just stating a fact about how ranchers and farmers feel about their dogs.

[Ah Pook]

Bears kill pets. Coyotes kill pets.

Where is the uproar?

[eddiememphis]

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2022/01/19/wolf-attack-colorado-jackson-county-cow-killed/

Another one. Same ranch as the last cow. Two attacked, one had to be put down.

How do ranchers up north deal with this? I have heard of dogs or jacks keeping the coyotes at bay but a wolf is about four times the size of a coyote.

[hollohas]

There are some giant, livestock protecting, wolf killing dogs in some eastern European countries that I remember seeing. Forget what they are called, but these dogs are crazy. We may need some of those. I'll try to look them up.

[encorehunter]

Irish wolf hounds? We have a couple great pyrenees, but I doubt they would match up with a wolf. They are doing decent at keeping the lions away.

[Vic Tory]

Bears kill pets. Coyotes kill pets.

Where is the uproar?

Bears and coyotes were not reintroduced to the area by a bunch of well-meaning -- but misguided -- wolf lovers.

[Wulf202]

Bears and coyotes were not reintroduced to the area by a bunch of well-meaning -- but misguided -- wolf lovers.
Yeah let's just go about eliminating entire native species from a ecosystem, that's worked well in the past...

[.455_Hunter]

How do ranchers in "traditional" wolf areas deal with this problem? Does livestock become more "wolf aware" over time?

[UncleDave]

Livestock being domesticated by definition tend to be reliant on humans for protection. That is why for millennia men with herds and flocks lived with their animals, and trained dogs to help protect them. That is what many Mastiff breeds were bred for. Big, tough, loose skinned breeds in a pack are more than a match for a wolf pack. But the fact is in an ecosystem with lupine predators you cannot leave your domestic animals alone, or you will suffer some losses.

[Bailey Guns]

How do ranchers in "traditional" wolf areas deal with this problem? Does livestock become more "wolf aware" over time?

Honestly? There's probably a lot of shootin', shovelin' and shuttin' up.

[.455_Hunter]

I just assumed the incidents were on the west side of North Park, but they are actually occuring NE of town.