Vic Fangio - Gone

[Duman]

No surprises here....

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33026519/denver-broncos-fire-head-coach-vic-fangio-second-straight-last-place-finish

[Bailey Guns]

Never even heard of the guy. That's how much attention I give to the NFL.

[Hoser]

Never even heard of the guy. That's how much attention I give to the NFL.

The NF who?

[BPTactical]

Ooooooooo sportball guy.



DILLIGAF

[MrPrena]

Did he kneel down? [Whacko]


Joke aside, whoever good coach we bring, we still suck without good talents.
We became a Detroit Lions or Celeveland Brown few years back.

Look at all the former coach and assistants thriving right now coaching different team.
It is the organization issue (being cheap on talents).

[sampson]

So we need to pay for some top notch ball handlers so we can make more goals or whatever. Got it.

[MrPrena]

or clean the upper management.

[OldFogey]

gotta go with DILLIGAF as far as the nfl is concerned.

[battlemidget]

or clean the upper management.

Elway?

[.455_Hunter]

Elway?

As GM, Elway oversaw two Super Bowel appearances and one championship. I am sure he is quite happy to exit stage left, remaining only a ceremonial figure head for feel-good functions.

[3beansalad]

As GM, Elway oversaw two Super Bowel appearances and one championship. I am sure he is quite happy to exit stage left, remaining only a ceremonial figure head for feel-good functions.Super bowels... too funny!

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[.455_Hunter]

Super bowels... too funny!

Gotta love autocorrect!

[3beansalad]

I've seen some incredible asses. Super even, but never super bowels! Lol, thanks for the chuckle.

Further, who types "bowels" enough to have autocorrect edit to that?

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[Jer]

Did he kneel down? [Whacko]


Joke aside, whoever good coach we bring, we still suck without good talents.
We became a Detroit Lions or Celeveland Brown few years back.

Look at all the former coach and assistants thriving right now coaching different team.
It is the organization issue (being cheap on talents).

Denver's defense finished 3rd in the league. To miss the playoffs with that good of a defense is unheard of. Most all of their talent is very young & they shipped of some aging & expensive pieces. They've got some $50mil in cap space to go after a QB (looks like Aaron will stick around GB now so... Russell Wilson maybe?) and on top of that Denver has got eleven draft picks this year. This is going to be one of the most coveted head coaching positions available in the league this year. For good reason.

[MrPrena]

Well said.
Low score from offense can be proportional to changing in offense coordinators too many times.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/pro-football-history.com/franchpos/10/7/denver-broncos-offensive-coordinator-history


Today was not as shocking as John Fox leaving (or fired) as a head coach.

Sometimes I thank that I am not a professional sports bet/gambler.

[electronman1729]

Never heard of this gut but,

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[eddiememphis]

They fired the wrong guy.

Whoever keeps playing that horrible horse noise after every play needs to go.

[BladesNBarrels]

Seems like they need to get the ownership resolved.
Maybe get an owner that focus on rebuilding the team and get some results.
Management by Committee may not be the best method in this particular endeavor.

[Vic Tory]

I didn't know this guy was the coach. Last I knew it was Kubiak. (I haven't watched 2 minutes of the NFL when they allowed the kneeling to continue past the second week. Don't miss it.)

[Vic Tory]

Not starting a thread for this but ... Roll Tide!!! (Two minutes to game time...!)

You won't be seeing my posts until tomorrow.

[Circuits]

Not starting a thread for this but ... Roll Tide!!! (Two minutes to game time...!)
You won't be seeing my posts until tomorrow.
Sorry to hear about your loss. It wasn't important to me, but I guess it was of meaning to you.

[.455_Hunter]

Sorry to hear about your loss. It wasn't important to me, but I guess it was of meaning to you.

Glad to see another non-Alabama team win, even if they are another SEC school. It was an entertaining game, especially second half.

[Gman]

Denver's defense finished 3rd in the league. To miss the playoffs with that good of a defense is unheard of. Most all of their talent is very young & they shipped of some aging & expensive pieces. They've got some $50mil in cap space to go after a QB (looks like Aaron will stick around GB now so... Russell Wilson maybe?) and on top of that Denver has got eleven draft picks this year. This is going to be one of the most coveted head coaching positions available in the league this year. For good reason.
I don't think Russell Wilson is going anywhere. Denver needs to think long-term anyway. Not some high-end QB on the downhill slide to retirement.

[Jer]

I don't think Russell Wilson is going anywhere. Denver needs to think long-term anyway. Not some high-end QB on the downhill slide to retirement.

Yeah, because that worked so poorly for Denver the last time they did that & had a defense like this. [LOL]

[Gman]

So, you'd like Denver's success to be founded on the last team Super Bowel winning QBs play for?

That type of strategy used to work for the Avalanche during their Stanley Cup days prior to the salary cap. Guys would go there just for the chance at winning the cup before they hung up their skates. That doesn't seem to work under a cap.

[Jer]

So, you'd like Denver's success to be founded on the last team Super Bowel winning QBs play for?

That type of strategy used to work for the Avalanche during their Stanley Cup days prior to the salary cap. Guys would go there just for the chance at winning the cup before they hung up their skates. That doesn't seem to work under a cap.

I think you missed the point based on this response.

Also, my example was Russell Wilson and I would offer push-back at the idea that he's a QB on the downhill slide to retirement. He played behind one of if not THE worst O-Line in the NFL this year. You can keep Teddy Bridgewater though... that was working really well for them. I bet you're going to say you wouldn't take Aaron Rodgers either, right? I mean, what a washed up has-been amirite?

Are we seriously comparing Russell Wilson to Teddy Bridgewater right now as your primary stance on how to build a championship winning team? What is your solution? So far, you seem quick to smack down my examples and ideas w/o adding much of your own.

If you tell me that Denver can package Teddy, some picks, a couple of younger skill players that show a little bit of promise as well as some of those 11 picks Denver have in this upcoming draft and ship them off to Green Bay for Aaron Rodgers and Devante Adams (since that's about the only way you'd pull him away from GB now) I'd jump at the opportunity. Hell, GB may even throw in their offensive coordinator if Aaron likes him to sweeten the pot. Denver brass can make him head football coach and the Superbowl is Denver's to lose.

Or you can keep throwing turds like Lock & Bridgewater against a wall and see if any of them stick. That's been working out well as of late.

[MrPrena]

Neither....

We tried both, and we failed both path. LoL.

Draft
-Brock osweiller 2nd round
-Paxton Lynch 1st round.
-Drew Lock 2nd round

Vet
-Case Keenum playoff prior season
-Joe Flacco many playoffs
-Mark Sanchez - playoffs and butt fumble.


Too much coordinator change.
Not all players can memorize 100+ plays times X amount of coach/coordinator brings.
Including Fox, we never kept a coach for 4+ years since Mike Shanahan.


Maybe we need a better scouter?
upper management shakeup?
Ownership change?
?

[MrPrena]

I don't think Russell Wilson is going anywhere. Denver needs to think long-term anyway. Not some high-end QB on the downhill slide to retirement.

Gman, are you getting tired of Seahawks fan yet?

😀

[Jer]

Neither....

We tried both, and we failed both path. LoL.

Draft
-Brock osweiller 2nd round
-Paxton Lynch 1st round.
-Drew Lock 2nd round

Vet
-Case Keenum playoff prior season
-Joe Flacco many playoffs
-Mark Sanchez - playoffs and butt fumble.


Too much coordinator change.
Not all players can memorize 100+ plays times X amount of coach/coordinator brings.
Including Fox, we never kept a coach for 4+ years since Mike Shanahan.


Maybe we need a better scouter?
upper management shakeup?
Ownership change?
?

I couldn't help but notice you left out one Peyton Manning in your list of vets who just happened to win Super Bowl 50 not too long ago... was my initial point. Thanks for bringing that back around.

[MrPrena]

I couldn't help but notice you left out one Peyton Manning in your list of vets who just happened to win Super Bowl 50 not too long ago... was my initial point. Thanks for bringing that back around.


Yeah. Players comparison was post Manning, and coach comparison was post Shanahan.

I should have kept all comparison post Manning and Kubiac.

Still too many coach,coordinator, and qb changes. Maybe Bronco nation is not as patience.


Typical route is probably get a veteran who can play few years to playoffs and groom a rookie into a system. However, Osweiller to Texan shows that, it can also fail.

At this point, I m willing to take every good options that rolls into this franchise. Vet and/or rookie.

[Gman]

Gman, are you getting tired of Seahawks fan yet?

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I don't go to their church, so it's not too bad. I do see a lot of the license plates and wonder why someone would pay for them. But I also thought the same about the Broncos plates in CO.

Some will be talking about going to the Super Bowl before the pre-season is over. I secretly relish in the schadenfreude of grown men emotionally struggling with the poor performance of their local sports collective.

[MrPrena]

I don't go to their church, so it's not too bad. I do see a lot of the license plates and wonder why someone would pay for them. But I also thought the same about the Broncos plates in CO.

Some will be talking about going to the Super Bowl before the pre-season is over. I secretly relish in the schadenfreude of grown men emotionally struggling with the poor performance of their local sports collective.

I believe Alcoholic beverages makes them even worse.

[MrPrena]

Old news but Hackett hired.

Any coach lasted more than 4 years with Broncos since M. Shanahan?

12 Josh McDaniels* 2009 2010
28 11 17 0 .393 ? [18]

13 Eric Studesville* 2010
4 1 3 0 .250 ? [19]

14 John Fox 2011 2014
64 46 18 0 .719 7 3 4 1 AFC championship (2013)[14] [20]

15 Gary Kubiak 2015 2016
32 21 11 0 .656 3 3 0 1 AFC championship (2015)[14]
1 Super Bowl championship (2015) [21]

16 Vance Joseph* 2017 2018
32 11 21 0 .344 ? [22]

17 Vic Fangio* 2019 2021
49 19 30 0 .375 [23]

18 Nathaniel Hackett* 2022 present

[Jer]

I think you missed the point based on this response.

Also, my example was Russell Wilson and I would offer push-back at the idea that he's a QB on the downhill slide to retirement. He played behind one of if not THE worst O-Line in the NFL this year. You can keep Teddy Bridgewater though... that was working really well for them. I bet you're going to say you wouldn't take Aaron Rodgers either, right? I mean, what a washed up has-been amirite?

Are we seriously comparing Russell Wilson to Teddy Bridgewater right now as your primary stance on how to build a championship winning team? What is your solution? So far, you seem quick to smack down my examples and ideas w/o adding much of your own.

If you tell me that Denver can package Teddy, some picks, a couple of younger skill players that show a little bit of promise as well as some of those 11 picks Denver have in this upcoming draft and ship them off to Green Bay for Aaron Rodgers and Devante Adams (since that's about the only way you'd pull him away from GB now) I'd jump at the opportunity. Hell, GB may even throw in their offensive coordinator if Aaron likes him to sweeten the pot. Denver brass can make him head football coach and the Superbowl is Denver's to lose.

Or you can keep throwing turds like Lock & Bridgewater against a wall and see if any of them stick. That's been working out well as of late.
See my note about what getting the OC from GB means for the DB. This could be a VERY good thing. Best part is Adams is a free agent in just over a month. The odds of Denver being the team to beat next year just went up with this hire. Not sure how good of an HC he'll be but if those pieces end up in Denver it won't really matter because they'll be friggin's stacked enough that I could coach them to a championship and learn how to HC along the way. Surely he can figure it out. If that doesn't play out and he sucks as a HC all we're out is a Vig Fangi-oh-and-seven so... no loss.