Tanner Gun Show

[powerstroke79]

I have been creeping around this Fourm for a long time, and have loved learning and meeting a lot of you. I don't often post in the GD and haven't Rant in a long time. So here it goes.
Rant
Disappointed in the Tanner Gun Show. This morning I thought I would take my son to a gun show. It is something I did with my father and thought it would be cool to do with my son. Last gun show I went to was back in 2007ish at the Phill long center. Today at the door i was asked if I was Carrying? I said yes i have a CCW. The nice lady at the door said I would need to check the firearm. The Security guard asked if i was carrying. Yes he said I would have to check the pistol and retrieve it when I left the Show. I told him No thank you and turned around and left.
I'm Disappointed that an event like this would take away someone right to self-defenses. Like all the other companies and venues that take rights away from law abiding citizens to self-defend, I will not support. Best of luck to Tanner Gun show.
Rant over

[hollohas]

#1 - Was there a metal detector?

#2 - Tanner has had more than one negligent discharge inside the show, so I'm not surprised by their policy. One happened while I was there and that was one too many for me. I've never gone back, never will.

[Sawin]

“Just say no.” I learned that answer from the DARE program in elementary school.

[FoxtArt]

There is definitely support for your position - and there is also support for the industry position in the unique circumstance.

There has been more than one occasion where someone has been shot in a colorado gunshow, because select people are 1) unsafe and 2) examining loaded weapons.

Now, a CCW has about a 0.000% chance of pulling out their pistol at a grocery store and showing their friend the gun they just bought.

But at a gunshow, there's again, a select group of people that have a rather high percentage of doing just that.

There is not a definitive way to know which people don't follow the basic firearm safety rules at the door. And as a patron or potential patron, I have to wonder what the risk probability is between:
a) someone trying to shoot up a gunshow and I don't have my CCW
vs b) Someone is showing their gun to a buddy and they pull the trigger on a loaded gun because they have shitforbrains.

I'm pretty sure the risk of b) is much, much higher, as mass shooters normally go for soft targets. There's been a historical attempt or two at actual police stations, vs hundreds of attempts at places that are guaranteed to not have weapons. A gunshow, even if they ask CCW to be checked, nobody is going to believe there aren't loaded weapons there, they are just being carried by responsible people who will neither admit to carrying them and also won't dig them out to show their buddy either. Maybe that is a win/win. People still carry, but the select idiots won't whip them out.

[hollohas]

vs b) Someone is showing their gun to a buddy and they pull the trigger on a loaded gun because they have shitforbrains.



I wonder how the odds of this ^ compare with the odds of the same shit for brains doing the EXACT same thing when asked to remove, (clear?) and check-in his CCW?

[Little Dutch]

I think there’s been a “no carry” policy at all the local shows for quite a while. I don’t recall ever being specifically asked about it though.

[electronman1729]

“Just say no.” I learned that answer from the DARE program in elementary school.

you know some of us never made it through DARE.

[Aardvark]

One time I took my CCW to a show, I took the mag out, cleared the chamber before the entry, then checked it like any other firearm carried in: zip tied and stickered. No checking it in then retrieving later, it was with me the whole time.

[BushMasterBoy]

When I went to school there were cops with M-16's, I even saw a few .50's mounted. We never had DARE. We didn't have any shootings I can remember. Too bad Tanner has a no CCW policy. I went to one once. Didn't buy anything.

[Great-Kazoo]

I think there’s been a “no carry” policy at all the local shows for quite a while. I don’t recall ever being specifically asked about it though.

Same down here in AZ. I didn't pay attention to it last show i worked. I noticed a lot of open carry guns had no mags in them. Inquired why that was and was told, Oh it's the policy of the arena.
OOPS good thing concealed, means concealed.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Seeing that the show had a couple of negligent discharge incidents some years ago, I can understand why they would implement a policy like this. There are enough firearms around WITH ammunition and trained/experienced shooters to handle some crazy incident like Antifa wishing to commit suicide (even without the assistance of your CCW).

[sroz]

Used to help a friend out every month at the Denver Tanner several years ago. Had a few NDs, but I do not recall any that were caused by customers unless the vendor neglected to ensure their firearms were clear. The ones I am aware of were all due to negligent vendors. Maybe I missed a few. Again this was only at the Denver show.

I do recall one time when security had all vendors verify their firearms were clear when they suspected someone was inserting a round in mags while checking out guns.

[.455_Hunter]

Sorry- I never participated in the "No CCW" program while attending a Tanner Show. After witnessing a group of "disadvantaged urban citizens" patrolling the southside Merchandise Mart parking lot, there was not a question of me being armed before, during, or after visiting the show. The biggest problem that I have with venues that restrict carry is not that I think something will happen specifically inside the venue (like the Pepsi Center or Fillmore Theater), but that I am now effectively disarmed for the entire journey to and from my vehicle (or home- if public transportation was taken). Not acceptable in my book, and I won't comply with non-enforced policy "requests" that put me in such a situation.

[wctriumph]

The PE Shows in northern CO just zip tie your pistol with a very light tie and give it back to you. It will need to be unloaded and you are not supposed to be carrying ammunition with you. A nail clipper will defeat the zip tie and they don’t search you to see if you have ammunition on you.

[.455_Hunter]

The PE Shows in northern CO just zip tie your pistol with a very light tie and give it back to you. It will need to be unloaded and you are not supposed to be carrying ammunition with you. A nail clipper will defeat the zip tie and they don’t search you to see if you have ammunition on you.

A true carnival of the absurd. No thanks...

I will keep a deep concealment piece fully loaded and ready to go, and it won't see the light of day during a show.

Now a weapon (or weapons) that I intend to sell, or purchase accessories for, then I have no problem with the policy (as long as holsters can still be fitted, etc).

[FoxtArt]

Might that be the point of the policy? Make sure that people responsibly CCW'ing keep it concealed?

I won't deny there is some small risk in people clearing weapons at any kind of station (and disclaimer, I haven't been to one with a station, it's been more than a decade since I hit a gunshow...) but I think it's open knowledge a lot of people would CCW anyway. I doubt the promoter cares that much.

I think the risk from a clearing station at the door (which is necessary for show weapons anyway?) is still smaller than people feeling comfortable showing loaded CCW weapons to their friends. People are going to try to be "good" at a station. Men around their boys, on the other hand, can be the pinnacle of idiocy. A good comparison is how many of you feel totally comfortable at a public range, with groups of rando teenagers that pull up on each side of your lane, and no RSO. You probably want your weapon, but you're keeping a close eye on what they are doing with theirs.

Now multiply that by 500 - 1000 and I see why a promoter would want people to believe they'd get in trouble if they pull out a loaded gun from anywhere.

ETA: Minor typos and making it less confusing.

[rondog]

Sorry- I never participated in "No CCW" program while attending the Tanner Show. After witnessing a group of "disadvantaged urban citizens" patrolling the southside Merchandise Mart parking lot, there was not a question of me being armed before, during, or after visiting the show. The biggest problem that I have with venues that restrict carry is not that I think something will happen specifically inside the venue (like the Pepsi Center or Fillmore Theater), but that I am now effectively disarmed for the entire journey to and from my vehicle (or home- if public transportation was taken). Not acceptable in my book, and I won't comply with non-enforced policy "requests" that put me in such a situation.

^This!^

[ManOnTarget]

Tanner gun shows have really gone downhill. Seems like there are several threads here that, when considered in totallity, paint a very poor picture of these shows.

OPs complaint certianly raises some more flags in my book.

[TEAMRICO]

I have started a petition to ban any and all gun shows in Colorado. We should ban together to end these types of events in our state.
Who would like to be the first to sign my petition to end gun shows that nobody is forcing you to attend?

[electronman1729]

Tanner Gun Show this weekend.

[Clint45]

There are no wands or patdowns at the Denver Tanner shows I've attended... everyone is on the honor system... and in 15 years I've never heard about a single assault or robbery inside that venue or even in the parking lot. Heard about a few car break ins and people swiping guns off a table though.