View Full Version : Greenwood Village neighbors launch petition to close residential gun store
Tomcat Tactical Firearms is causing many sleepless nights for the neighbors.
"Recently, I was beginning to see myself somewhere else because... I discovered there was a gun business so close to me," Carson said, adding that she's upset that the sales are happening in the neighborhood instead of a store.
That business is Tomcat Tactical Firearms (https://tomcattactical.com/).
"I have had many sleepless nights. I am upset that nothing has been done about it up to this point, that we have been told (the business) is legal," Carson said.
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/greenwood-village-neighbors-launch-petition-to-close-residential-gun-store
I have those same feelings of anxiety knowing there are two Starbucks in close proximity to my home.
Imagine how little sleep she would get if she knew about all the shady or illegal things that probably happen in her hood.
I have the same feelings about dispensaries, (maybe not since i don't lose sleep over it) so I suppose I can relate to her... but we both need to get over it.
TEAMRICO
02-08-2022, 10:09
Not to mention all the home based bakeries and crafts store run out of homes. How do you screen for shady characters coming into the neighborhood to buy muffins and bead bracelets!!
Don?t forget door to door Planned Parenthood donation seekers?.er I mean Girl Scouts.
She should really avoid looking into registered sex offenders near her house.
buffalobo
02-08-2022, 10:19
""I have had many sleepless nights. I am upset that nothing has been done about it up to this point, that we have been told (the business) is legal," Carson said."
Yeah, cause all the scary dangerous illegal shit that has happened since Tomcat Firearms moved in and started selling guns.
Stupid Beotch, STFU and mind your own business.
Uber-Karen needs to mind her own f@#king business. I saw this story last night, and the guy that runs the business was a poster boy for responsible FFLs: Clean cut, polite, friendly, and articulate. He made a point of inviting anyone who want to to come and see what safeguards were in place to ensure the continued safe and ethical operation of his business.
BPTactical
02-08-2022, 10:43
Uber-Karen needs to mind her own f@#king business. I saw this story last night, and the guy that runs the business was a poster boy for responsible FFLs: Clean cut, polite, friendly, and articulate. He made a point of inviting anyone who want to to come and see what safeguards were in place to ensure the continued safe and ethical operation of his business.
Yup, I had the same impression.
Some people need to get a life. I wish I had a gun store that close to where I live.
Some people need to get a life. I wish I had a gun store that close to where I live.
No kidding. All of my favorite shops are thirty miles south through the heart of Denver traffic. She should consider herself blessed.
I think Bill Stark is in Centennial, but pretty close to GV. He's a home FFL and does transfers, not sure if he sells guns, never asked. But Uber-Karen would piss down both legs if she knew how many guns go in and out through his front door.
Some people need to get a life. I wish I had a gun store that close to where I live.
That convenience is a double-edged sword that can cause cash flow issues. [Faint]
longrange2
02-08-2022, 12:54
Unfortunately Bill retired for doing transfers. He was my go to for transfers.
Martinjmpr
02-08-2022, 13:53
Unfortunately Bill retired for doing transfers. He was my go to for transfers.
Mine too.
Thank God it’s not a day care center!
eddiememphis
02-08-2022, 14:11
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rDK2cwbAK93WnrKiT90IoxhKNs1x6f_K/view
The old broad's flyer.
She has a few things incorrect but my favorite-
"He even has all of the parts you need
to assemble your own AR-15. These self-assembled
guns, commonly known as ?ghost guns,? require no
background check."
Ooooo... scary!
The are no longer taking signatures for the petition. She does still have an email address.
gvsafefromguns@gmail.com
eddiememphis
02-08-2022, 14:18
I sent him an email. Told him to keep up the good work and not to let that old bag get him down.
Great-Kazoo
02-08-2022, 14:24
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rDK2cwbAK93WnrKiT90IoxhKNs1x6f_K/view
The old broad's flyer.
She has a few things incorrect but my favorite-
"He even has all of the parts you need
to assemble your own AR-15. These self-assembled
guns, commonly known as ?ghost guns,? require no
background check."
Ooooo... scary!
The are no longer taking signatures for the petition. She does still have an email address.
gvsafefromguns@gmail.com
Thanks for that email.
here's my email to her
Were you aware there are 4 registered sex offenders in GV? If we're going to try banning legal, licensed business. Should we not do everything possible, to ensure no sexual predators are among us? Think of the children and their safety. As well as being able to sleep at night. Knowing the kids are safe.
https://www.homefacts.com/offenders/Colorado/Arapahoe-County/Greenwood-Village.html
Oh the horror. A gun dealer in the 'hood.
Good lord lady, get a life. You should be thankful that you have an upstanding citizen that would stop a crime well before he commits a crime living near by. And he even served this nation. You should be thanking him for his service, not attacking him.
.455_Hunter
02-08-2022, 18:14
She is probably the type of person who thinks the number of AR-15 style rifles in citizen hands numbers in the few thousands nationwide, owned only by incel basement dwellers and gang members.
So, law abiding citizens are entering her neighborhood to make legal transactions...? <shudder>
[Shake]
Damn, now in addition to Damage Factory and Bowers there's another shop 10-15 minutes from my front door!! I'm never moving!!!! LOL!!
I’m betting she is just auditioning for HOA president. She just wants to demonstrate her zeal to run other peoples lives.
As for her being a Karen, I’m shocked at how many people in the world have met my ex-wife, Karen.
theGinsue
02-08-2022, 21:16
That convenience is a double-edged sword that can cause cash flow issues. [Faint]
Naw, never for me as I've been dealing with a "supply chain" issue with my cash flow for far too many years.
I?m betting she is just auditioning for HOA president. She just wants to demonstrate her zeal to run other peoples lives.
As for her being a Karen, I?m shocked at how many people in the world have met my ex-wife, Karen.Karen's have seen how much power they can wield.
Greenwood Village laws prohibit:
• Storage of dangerous or combustible materials in a home business.
This home stores a large stock of ammunition on the premises — in a house built in 1972, not
in a store with modern safeguards and security.
It's been proven time and time again that ammunition in a fire poses no physical threat to anyone farther than about 10 feet away.
All she accomplished was free advertising for this guy.
BPTactical
02-08-2022, 23:49
I sent her a little "Love"
Sandy-
I want to sincerely thank you!
I am very much the type to keep to my own business and let others be as long as they are not causing harm to others.
But you have brought me out of that shell.
Thank you!
I cannot begin to convey the level of offensiveness, contempt and disgust that your unprovoked attack on a member of your own community who is conducting a lawful and completely legal business from his home brings forth.
I don’t feel you would like it if you were conducting a fully legal business to the letter of the law and your livelihood was unjustly targeted by someone who did not care for the nature of your product?
I can assure you that the individual conducting his lawful business is doing such to the letter of the regulations and laws of the Federal Government, State of Colorado and Greenwood Village. If he was not he would not be in business, it is that simple. A FFL holder is bound to comply with over 30,000 Federal regulations and laws to engage in the commerce of firearms (which by the way are the most regulated product in commerce) not to mention State and local regulations/laws.
I can speak on this subject with authority and knowledge having been the proprietor an extremely successful home based firearms business for over 15 years.
I took a moment to review your document: “The house down the street is a gun shop? Seriously?
I would like to address the gross misinformation, falsehoods, speculation and wholly irrational statements it contains:
1- “Full on Gun Store” Falsehood, he operates on an appointment only basis with a select clientele, his business is not open to the general public. There is no storefront, signage nor any other outward appearances of a business. You would have no knowledge of the nature of his business unless you are a customer or took it upon yourself to investigate what your neighbor does.
2- “These self-assembled guns, commonly known as “ghost guns” require no background check”
Irrational statement, inanimate objects cannot “self-assemble”.
Gross misinformation/falsehood, the individual components/parts required to construct a firearm are not defined as a “Frame or Receiver” and as such no background check is required. The component that is the subject of your “interpretation” as a firearm is what is classified by the BATFE as a “Frame or Receiver” 27 CFR ? 478.11 and is subject to a background check as defined in the Gun Control Act of 1968 and pursuant to the “Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993”. There are “Frames and Receivers” that are sold as unfinished and incomplete units, known as “80%” components (which are named as such because they are considered 80% “complete” and require final machining and finishing operations to function. They do not meet the criteria to be classified as a “Frame or Receiver” per BATFE definition and therefore can be sold without a background check as is prescribed in the aforementioned regulations/laws. The final completion of these is wholly on the purchaser, the seller has no responsibility in the end use of the product purchased. This is substantiated by case law.
3- “This home stores a large stock of ammunition on the premises—in house built in 1972, not in a store with modern safeguards and security”
Wholly irrational and speculative, I highly doubt that you have an accurate accounting of his inventory and quite frequently small, home based businesses of this nature have security measures that at the least equal and quite frequently surpass commercial measures. They can afford to invest in state of the art equipment where commercial operations operate on a lean system and for one very critical reason: it is not only their business and livelihood but also their home. You have no knowledge of his security measures and storage facilities.
I am sure your next thought is “What if there is a fire?” Small arms munitions are of minimal risk in a typical house fire, as a matter of fact garage contents and combustion of typical household flammable substances and chemicals pose a far greater risk to property and persons.
4- “Is this business a nuisance by that definition?
Speculation and wholly irrational. You have no basis of proof that it threatens the safety of your families and properties.
You have no basis of proof of how his business interferes with your peace and comfort nor how it potentially damages the value of your homes. Your statement is wholly speculative and is based on nothing more than your perception.
5- “Is this an anti-gun thing?”
Wholly irrational statement. Clearly obvious it is an “anti-gun thing”. The very nature of your document, your actions and your need to proclaim it to media sources shows a clear and present bias against firearms in your thought process.
Now lets consider the reality and facts of your actions so far-
You had the opportunity to gain a neighbor, a veteran who served his country proudly, who served to protect the freedom for you to redress your grievances but also who served to protect his freedom to the pursuits of freedom and prosperity.
You could have gained a neighbor and a friend. A neighbor and a friend that is clearly a law abiding citizen, probably much more so than many of your neighbors and certainly more than the 4 (at least) sex offenders that reside in Greenwood Village.
You had an opportunity to learn about one of your God given Constitutional Rights, perhaps to better educate yourself about something that you find uncomfortable or objectional.
But sadly your emotional, uninformed and irrational opinions have now alienated that neighbor and your actions have placed him in an adversarial position.
May shame be upon you.
Your emotional, uniformed and irrational opinions have in a most egregious manner jeopardized the security and safety of not only him, his property and his business but also the security and safety of the properties in his proximity.
You did this, not his business.
May shame be upon you
You have defamed him without proof or evidence with your speculative, libelous and slanderous statements about his business and home.
Had you done this to my business I would be seeking legal remedy post haste, please be assured I am forwarding the proprietor of Tomcat Tactical this correspondence.
You did this, not his business.
The man has every right to contest you to the very extent of the law.
You did this, not his business.
If somebody were to open a home based business selling hammers, knives and baseball bats would you be as “offended” as you are by this gentleman’s business?
If not you should be, an individual is 5 times as likely to be slain by the above than by a firearm.
Please take the initiative to educate yourself in an objective and honest manner on the subject matter at hand.
You state that Greenwood Village has been your home for 50+ years.
Perhaps it is time to make mature and rational statements and choices based on fact and not conjecture, inaccurate, biased media talking points or misinformation.
A very wise man told me once: “ It is far better to let people think you are a fool than to open your mouth and confirm it.”
No need to confirm your confirmation Sandy.
Respectfully
RF
Unfortunately Bill retired for doing transfers. He was my go to for transfers.
Whaaat? Oh no.....
theGinsue
02-09-2022, 06:37
Damn Bert, that was just plain beautiful. Very well done.
Damn Bert, that was just plain beautiful. Very well done.
Yeah. Its a shame it probably wasn?t even opened or that she got three sentences in and deleted it.
May her hippie bush be infested with the lice from a thousand camels.
StagLefty
02-09-2022, 08:09
Yeah. Its a shame it probably wasn?t even opened or that she got three sentences in and deleted it.
May her hippie bush be infested with the lice from a thousand camels.
So many memories in one sentence [ROFL2]
OctopusHighball
02-09-2022, 08:36
Looks like I've found a new FFL! Thanks, Uber Karen!
UncleDave
02-09-2022, 09:34
So many memories in one sentence [ROFL2]
Except it is the flees of a thousand camels, if you are quoting the Great Carnac
Except it is the flees of a thousand camels, if you are quoting the Great Carnac
I stand corrected. Should have just saved myself the embarrassment and wished her a full blown case of herpes.
BPTactical
02-09-2022, 11:02
Y'all have no idea of the amount of self control and restraint it took me to keep from suggesting that she drive over to the Lowes at I-25 and Arapahoe and rent/purchase a Hilti hammer drill then proceed to the nearest "Pleasures", "Christals" or other adult retail establishment and purchase the largest phallus substitute she could find (preferably black in color for her BLM homies honor), attach it to aforementioned hammer drill, lubricate with Turpentine, salt and Ebola and proceed to pleasure herself in a most amorous and violent manner with enthusiasm.
Repeatedly.
crashdown
02-09-2022, 11:46
Bert…. What division of Hallmark Cards do you write for again?
She is probably the type of person who thinks the number of AR-15 style rifles in citizen hands numbers in the few thousands nationwide, owned only by incel basement dwellers and gang members.
That is probably a true statement. Most AR-15 style rifles have been lost in boating accidents.
ChickNorris
02-09-2022, 12:35
Bert…. What division of Hallmark Cards do you write for again?
Romance & Thinking of You
BPTactical
02-09-2022, 13:23
Romance & Thinking of You
I sense a challenge.....
OneGuy67
02-09-2022, 16:12
Thanks for that email.
here's my email to her
Were you aware there are 4 registered sex offenders in GV? If we're going to try banning legal, licensed business. Should we not do everything possible, to ensure no sexual predators are among us? Think of the children and their safety. As well as being able to sleep at night. Knowing the kids are safe.
https://www.homefacts.com/offenders/Colorado/Arapahoe-County/Greenwood-Village.html
Xenia isn't in GV, 2 of the addresses are hotels and the fourth is the King Sooper shopping center at Chenango and Yosemite, so most likely not there either.
OneGuy67
02-09-2022, 16:15
She is typical of the housewife I dealt with while a cop in GV. People think those living in Highlands Ranch live in a bubble, they should try GV.
Has anyone tried to start a petition to remove the woman? I mean, think of the children. One of them, at some point, is bound to... talk... to her. *shudder*
Just think of all the time this woman must waste in bitching to people.
Seamonkey
02-09-2022, 16:54
I sent her a little "Love"
+1
Always a way with words
Great-Kazoo
02-09-2022, 18:00
Xenia isn't in GV, 2 of the addresses are hotels and the fourth is the King Sooper shopping center at Chenango and Yosemite, so most likely not there either.
They show up as in the city of GV. Let's not let facts get in the way of the narrative.
BPTactical
02-09-2022, 18:36
They show up as in the city of GV. Let's not let facts get in the way of the narrative.
It sure didn’t for her so….ok!
Remember when some dude left trash at a mountain gun range and this forum deftly jacked with him via Google searches.
Could this happen to this lady please please pretty please
Remember when some dude left trash at a mountain gun range and this forum deftly jacked with him via Google searches.
Could this happen to this lady please please pretty please
Oh, kinda like Les Fletcher, of Plano, TX
Alas, google can't see any of the posts so it is for naught.
colorider
02-09-2022, 22:43
Just wait. Next week she will be in the news again talking about all the hate filled and threatening emails she has received. How she now feels threatened by the crazy gun community. How she now can't even feel safe while going to Sprouts or Whole Foods. How some guy at Starbucks gave her a dirty look because he saw her on the news. How she can't live there anymore because people are looking up her home address and she is a target for violence from gun owners. Should be comical to say the least.
wctriumph
02-10-2022, 01:49
Burt always has a great point of view.
I miss bytestrike ..
OneGuy67
02-10-2022, 09:38
Burt always has a great point of view.
I miss bytestrike ..
Yup...:(
Just wait. Next week she will be in the news again talking about all the hate filled and threatening emails she has received. How she now feels threatened by the crazy gun community. How she now can't even feel safe while going to Sprouts or Whole Foods. How some guy at Starbucks gave her a dirty look because he saw her on the news. How she can't live there anymore because people are looking up her home address and she is a target for violence from gun owners. Should be comical to say the least.
All that and probably will sue the gun store as a typical histrionic rich Karen wife, TBH. "emotional distress and suffering" and run them up so much in time and legal costs that they'll end up closing anyway.
Great-Kazoo
02-10-2022, 23:36
This is a separate issue, but an important one
Her reply ^^
Guns are more important than sexual predators.
BPTactical
02-11-2022, 07:09
This is a separate issue, but an important one
Her reply ^^
Guns are more important than sexual predators.
So she has focused on firearms specifically instead of overall neighborhood safety?
She just stuck her own foot in her ass as far as her “Is this an anti-gun thing? Not at all” statement.
Call her on it Jim.
She hasn’t graced me yet with a response, I doubt she dare to.
Great-Kazoo
02-11-2022, 09:02
So she has focused on firearms specifically instead of overall neighborhood safety?
She just stuck her own foot in her ass as far as her “Is this an anti-gun thing? Not at all” statement.
Call her on it Jim.
She hasn’t graced me yet with a response, I doubt she dare to.
Already did.
I'm curious, as are many others. Why you say it's a separate issue. While you are pushing NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY .
Or are you scared of an inanimate object. While a 2 legged one is free to stalk innocent kids.
eddiememphis
02-11-2022, 09:23
Remember when some dude left trash at a mountain gun range and this forum deftly jacked with him via Google searches.
Could this happen to this lady please please pretty please
It's very easy to find out a lot of information about someone. 10 minutes and I found home address, her history, her husband's history and his work address. Someone with stronger google-fu could undoubtedly find much more.
That's why you have to be so careful these days. If some nut like the tattoo parlor guy gets it in your head you are his enemy, it's pretty easy to track you down.
On the other hand, if you keep your head down and never speak up about issues with which you are concerned, you may not be able to stop or change that issue.
OldFogey
02-11-2022, 10:09
Yeah. Its a shame it probably wasn?t even opened or that she got three sentences in and deleted it.
May her hippie bush be infested with the lice from a thousand camels.
And just what do you have against camel lice? That is an awfully harsh thing to wish upon them...
Already did.
I'm curious, as are many others. Why you say it's a separate issue. While you are pushing NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY .
Or are you scared of an inanimate object. While a 2 legged one is free to stalk innocent kids.
2 legged ones with documented histories of criminal behavior.
The fool probably rationalizes that sexual predators can be rehabilitated, but firearms cannot.
Burt always has a great point of view.
I miss bytestrike ..
Yep and yep
Burt always has a great point of view.
I miss bytestrike ..
Most probably know, but for those that don't he's also passed on since he quit coming around here years ago... RIP.
theGinsue
02-11-2022, 23:53
Burt always has a great point of view.
I miss bytestrike ..
Most probably know, but for those that don't he's also passed on since he quit coming around here years ago... RIP.
ByteStryke. Yes, cancer took him.
If God is just, Bert will be with us for a very long time.
If God is just, Bert will be with us for a very long time.
Way to jinx the guy.
buckshotbarlow
02-12-2022, 09:04
I sent her a little "Love"
this is word porn...
buckshotbarlow
02-12-2022, 09:21
82yr old hag with nothing better to do with her time?
Great-Kazoo
02-12-2022, 21:06
82yr old hag with nothing better to do with her time?
OR a late 30, early 40 something woman, who's not sure if she wants chicks, or dicks.
GV and a great deal of Centennial folks that live near County Line tend to be hand-flailers. NextDoor can be entertaining watching them squawk.
eddiememphis
02-14-2022, 08:58
I got a response to my email. It is much, much longer and I can post the rest if there is interest. Mostly it is his philosophy, his history as a fighter pilot.
He does mention that it is only three people that are raising such a stink.
Jason Pratt <jason@tomcattactical.com>
Sun, Feb 13, 9:07 PM (10 hours ago)
to me
Eddie,
Thank you so very much for reaching out to Tomcat Tactical! I appreciate your note of support.
Regarding the current challenges targeting my rights to operate from private property, I have some significant thoughts for you to ponder below but first let me get to what we call in the military the BLUF.
Bottom Line Up Front (BLUF):
What can you do and how can you help?
You can pray for our Great Country and for me.
You can call 303-773-0252 or email the Council Women for my district: Libby Barnacle, email: ebarnacle@greenwoodvillage.com And Donna Johnston, email: djohnston@greenwoodvillage.com or any and all of the council members available here: https://greenwoodvillage.com/1082/Mayor-City-Council
You can support my very small business by purchasing survival food, equipment, firearms, accessories, or training. Reach out to me at this email address.
If you haven?t already, you can check out my various media appearances regarding this story here: FrankSpeech TV spot on the Lindell Show: https://frankspeech.com/tv/video/jason-pratt-challenges-running-gun-store-face-anti-second-amendment-radicals, or Denver 7 ABC news story, while it does favor the opposing side it was more fair than I expected: https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/greenwood-village-neighbors-launch-petition-to-close-residential-gun-store, or Denver 4 CBS: https://denver.cbslocal.com/2022/02/09/greenwood-village-gun-business-home/, for a great analysis of the situation here at CAM&CO: https://youtu.be/pN1B5OBMiuw and finally a great spot on the Chuck and Julie Show on their February 9 podcast: https://chuckandjulie.com/
You can share this with Freedom Loving Friends and Family!
You can stay informed as I?ll provide updates to what?s going on with this story as it evolves and will impact your rights, wherever you live
You can consider contributing to my legal efforts if it should come to that at a givesendgo.com account to be established
eddiememphis
06-06-2022, 17:48
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2022/06/05/greenwood-village-city-council-ban-gun-sales-residential-neighborhood/
https://www.greenwoodvillage.com/2390/Agendas-Minutes-Webcasts
On the docket tonight is discussion of an ordinance to ban firearm sales from home. 7:00pm
SideShow Bob
06-06-2022, 19:05
I wish the business owner well, but seeings who most of these “Woke” citizens voted in as “El Presidente” , he probably doesn’t stand a snowballs chance in hell.
I believe Jason Pratt's business will be grandfathered in and the vote tonight, 5 to 3 in favor of the business ban in residential areas, will only pertain to future businesses. This comes from a friend that was at the meeting tonight.
He got rolled over 5-3.
https://i.imgur.com/s70Ra8X.jpg
kidicarus13
06-06-2022, 22:20
He got rolled over 5-3.
https://i.imgur.com/s70Ra8X.jpgI see Greenwood Village women and Thomas don't like guns or freedom.
BREATHER
06-07-2022, 06:26
I betcha they think bees are fish
BPTactical
06-07-2022, 08:58
I wish the business owner well, but seeings who most of these ?Woke? citizens voted in as ?El Presidente? , he probably doesn?t stand a snowballs chance in hell.
HA!
You think El Presidente was voted in?
Great-Kazoo
06-07-2022, 12:30
Here's the typical response for another BAN WEAPONS OF WAR!! person, this one identifies as "female" when asked if she could tell me the difference between (pictures of) an AR and Mini-14
G-K: what the fuck does it matter what I know about guns?!?! I'll tell u what I do know . The AR15 is the choice of weapon that mass shooters use!!!!!
At-15 is the most popular rifle in the country. What were the odds?
.455_Hunter
06-08-2022, 07:00
Here's the typical response for another BAN WEAPONS OF WAR!! person, this one identifies as "female" when asked if she could tell me the difference between (pictures of) an AR and Mini-14
G-K: what the fuck does it matter what I know about guns?!?! I'll tell u what I do know . The AR15 is the choice of weapon that mass shooters use!!!!!
They get some fish mouth if you point out 99.999% of AR-15 style platforms are not owned by spree killers.
eddiememphis
06-08-2022, 08:05
Watch for them to assess a special property tax or fee to FFL holders operating out of their homes.
The home is more likely to be broken into and a fire is going to be worse because of improper chemical storage thus needing a stronger police or fire response.
This will carry over to insurance, both homeowners and health.
theGinsue
06-09-2022, 12:16
He got rolled over 5-3.
https://i.imgur.com/s70Ra8X.jpg
I see Greenwood Village women and Thomas don't like guns or freedom.
That is exactly what I saw when I looked at the post.
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