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RblDiver
04-14-2022, 09:15
So, Elon Musk has made an offer to buy 100% of Twitter, rather than just the ~10% that he owns now. He wants to turn it into a bastion of free speech. Predictably, the left is freaking out.

I love it!

Rooskibar03
04-14-2022, 10:43
This is gonna be awesome. The meltdown of the left is so entertaining.

00tec
04-14-2022, 11:17
The board will likely decline the offer

20X11
04-14-2022, 12:19
Can you say HOSTILE takeover?

O2HeN2
04-14-2022, 12:27
I wonder how the liberals will like people quoting "If you don't like it, get your own platform!" back to them.

O2

Ps. Predictions:

Twitter won't sell "because reasons".
Stock owners will sue because Twitter mismanaged the company by not selling.
The suit won't go anywhere because it's a liberal cause.

sbgixxer
04-14-2022, 12:39
Musk: "Given that Twitter serves as the de facto public town square, failing to adhere to free speech principles fundamentally undermines democracy,"

Love it

Aloha_Shooter
04-14-2022, 20:56
Can you say HOSTILE takeover?

That's what I'm hoping for. In a hostile takeover, he won't have to agree to any namby-pamby conditions set by the board.

brutal
04-14-2022, 21:07
It's funny (sad funny) to watch the libs lose their minds and call Elon Musk a right winger when he's pretty well entrenched as a Libertarian that likes to smoke weed and support the Constitution.

Anyone notice the stock price he offered is $54.20 Coincidence?

BushMasterBoy
04-14-2022, 21:08
I don't think Twitter is worth 40 billion. I'd stay with Starlink, Spacex & Tesla. Put the money in lithium mining.

kidicarus13
04-14-2022, 21:35
When you're worth over $270 billion, it's no longer about making the best return on investment, it's about getting your message out.

hollohas
04-14-2022, 21:43
I've never paid much attention to Musk until recently. I'm impressed. Dude puts his money where his mouth is. I respect that.

BushMasterBoy
04-14-2022, 21:53
If I had that much money, I'd be building nuclear powered space craft that can do C+. It is called break through propulsion physics. If you can build starships, you could own this planet.

OtterbatHellcat
04-15-2022, 00:02
I've never paid much attention to Musk until recently. I'm impressed. Dude puts his money where his mouth is. I respect that.

This.

I hope he pops that little bubble and cleans house.

OtterbatHellcat
04-15-2022, 00:05
I dont know if its true or not, but I heard that 10% of twitter accounts are responsible for 80% of the tweets.

brutal
04-15-2022, 01:37
I dont know if its true or not, but I heard that 10% of twitter accounts are responsible for 80% of the tweets.

And some of the top accounts with the most followers hardly tweet (Obama, Bieber)

ray1970
04-15-2022, 06:57
I've never paid much attention to Musk until recently. I'm impressed. Dude puts his money where his mouth is. I respect that.

So, are you going to look into buying a Tesla now?

Inquiring minds want to know.

hollohas
04-15-2022, 07:13
So, are you going to look into buying a Tesla now?

Inquiring minds want to know.Meh.

If he makes a legit full size SUV, I might. 3 kids and 2 dogs, we need a man sized SUV ;)

O2HeN2
04-15-2022, 07:18
If I had that much money, I'd be building nuclear powered space craft that can do C+.

Any other software types have to spend time correctly interpreting that statement? :)

O2

BushMasterBoy
04-15-2022, 09:06
I was referring to photo fission propulsion that is capable of faster than light travel. Not sure if this covered by laws governing nuclear technology. Building this technology would probably be insanely expensive, but not impossible. Admittedly it is an exotic materials problem and uncharted territory.

Wulf202
04-15-2022, 09:50
The board will likely decline the offer

Kravis style hostile takeover or launching a competitive company are the next steps

Gman
04-15-2022, 11:11
He can buy the holdings of individual stockholders without the boards' approval. He'll control enough of it that the board won't really have a choice.

...or he cashes out and does something different.

It is funny watching the true interests of those at the heart of Twitter having a complete meltdown. Like Musk is some die-hard conservative that's going to set the Twitter home page to the Bible.

http://youtu.be/WrH-CTRrj_I

Full TED Talk:

http://youtu.be/cdZZpaB2kDM

brutal
04-15-2022, 16:20
FWIW, Vanguard now holds more than Musk.

Rumor was the Saudi's were making a play as well.

Interesting times we're in folks.

Ah Pook
04-16-2022, 13:21
I don’t do Twitter but am having fun watching the drama. [Pop]

Aloha_Shooter
04-16-2022, 16:43
If I had that much money, I'd be building nuclear powered space craft that can do C+. It is called break through propulsion physics. If you can build starships, you could own this planet.


I was referring to photo fission propulsion that is capable of faster than light travel. Not sure if this covered by laws governing nuclear technology. Building this technology would probably be insanely expensive, but not impossible. Admittedly it is an exotic materials problem and uncharted territory.

More than insanely expensive, what you're talking about requires new physics. Not just new engineering, new physics. Even getting close to c requires changing paradigms (like Robert Forward's laser pulsed lightsails) to get around the mass of storing on-board propellant. The nice thing about Robert Forward's stories was that he explained the physics behind them in the appendices to the stories. As much as I would love it, I haven't seen any credible physics for FTL travel.

Musk is already putting significant sums towards pushing space technology. He can do that and still bait the totalitarian demagogues at Twitter. In fact, it looks like he's baiting them AND going to make a huge profit at the same time. I've heard someone else has put forth an offer to buy Twitter and if it competes with his, he'll be able to nearly double his investment and then watch them go down the tubes. Musk right now seems to be the closest contemporary analog to Heinlein's fictitious characters of D.D. Harriman and Shipstone and our best bet for really pushing outside Earth's gravity well.

rondog
04-16-2022, 16:47
If he bought Area 51, he'd then have that technology!

FoxtArt
04-16-2022, 19:24
It is quite possible to travel C+ in relation to earth without breaking any physics at all.

Consider this: In the early days of the universe it expanded faster than light speed by many orders of magnitude.

That's because spacetime (and the expansion thereof) is independent to C. By working with spacetime instead of "throwing shit out the back (rocket engines), e.g. compressing spacetime in one direction and expanding it in another, you can transit distance without the problem of time dilation as well, and exceed C to an award observer without actually moving much at all.

And there's evidence of it on earth. Impressive sensory data collected by US, and confirmed by the US Gov to exhibit methods of propulsion that are impossible under standard physics.


The report came to no conclusion about what the UAPs were, based on a lack of evidence, though in a limited number of incidents, UAP reportedly appeared to exhibit unusual flight characteristics, including high velocity, breaking the sound barrier without producing a sonic boom, high maneuverability not able to be replicated otherwise, long duration flight, and an ability to submerge into the water. Some of the UAPs appeared to move with no discernable means of propulsion, and it was noted that the alleged high speeds and maneuvers would normally destroy any craft.


June 2021 ODNP report of the US Gov.

Note that the encounters were repeatedly witnessed by dozens of airmen and sailors across multiple carrier groups over the last 18 years, and visual, video, and sensor data all correlated. There are two main ways this kind of flight is possible: 1) Spacetime manipulation or 2) Magic is real, and Gandalf is trying to get a ring to Hawaii.

No suggested conclusion as to what they are, but I think it's silly to say we don't know they are something, that utilizes physics outside of our kinetics.

rondog
04-16-2022, 20:37
It is quite possible to travel C+ in relation to earth without breaking any physics at all.

Consider this: In the early days of the universe it expanded faster than light speed by many orders of magnitude.

That's because spacetime (and the expansion thereof) is independent to C. By working with spacetime instead of "throwing shit out the back (rocket engines), e.g. compressing spacetime in one direction and expanding it in another, you can transit distance without the problem of time dilation as well, and exceed C to an award observer without actually moving much at all.

And there's evidence of it on earth. Impressive sensory data collected by US, and confirmed by the US Gov to exhibit methods of propulsion that are impossible under standard physics.


June 2021 ODNP report of the US Gov.

Note that the encounters were repeatedly witnessed by dozens of airmen and sailors across multiple carrier groups over the last 18 years, and visual, video, and sensor data all correlated. There are two main ways this kind of flight is possible: 1) Spacetime manipulation or 2) Magic is real, and Gandalf is trying to get a ring to Hawaii.

No suggested conclusion as to what they are, but I think it's silly to say we don't know they are something, that utilizes physics outside of our kinetics.

Um, whut?

Great-Kazoo
04-17-2022, 00:44
Um, whut?

42, the answer's 42.



ignore everything else you've been told.

BladesNBarrels
04-17-2022, 08:02
Universal Number 6

battlemidget
04-17-2022, 09:24
No Sasquatch references yet?

BushMasterBoy
04-17-2022, 13:20
It might be a really good investment to buy a information platform to gather business intelligence and influence people to a positive outcome. Having a social media platform, a space based internet provider, electric transportation company and a space launch platform could be really good for his bottom line.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX1Y2JMK6g8

rondog
04-17-2022, 23:00
42, the answer's 42.



ignore everything else you've been told.

Writing this down.....

Aloha_Shooter
04-19-2022, 18:52
It is quite possible to travel C+ in relation to earth without breaking any physics at all.

Consider this: In the early days of the universe it expanded faster than light speed by many orders of magnitude.

That's because spacetime (and the expansion thereof) is independent to C. By working with spacetime instead of "throwing shit out the back (rocket engines), e.g. compressing spacetime in one direction and expanding it in another, you can transit distance without the problem of time dilation as well, and exceed C to an award observer without actually moving much at all.

And there's evidence of it on earth. Impressive sensory data collected by US, and confirmed by the US Gov to exhibit methods of propulsion that are impossible under standard physics.


June 2021 ODNP report of the US Gov.

Note that the encounters were repeatedly witnessed by dozens of airmen and sailors across multiple carrier groups over the last 18 years, and visual, video, and sensor data all correlated. There are two main ways this kind of flight is possible: 1) Spacetime manipulation or 2) Magic is real, and Gandalf is trying to get a ring to Hawaii.

No suggested conclusion as to what they are, but I think it's silly to say we don't know they are something, that utilizes physics outside of our kinetics.

No. The speed of light is a defined limit in your locality. You can have a velocity > c relative to a receding reference frame (e.g, 2 points in space-time each traveling 0.75c in their own reference frames will have a relative velocity of 1.5c * cos (angle between their respective velocity vectors) but there is nothing in known physics that allows anything to travel faster than light in the local reference frame. That doesn't mean it's impossible but it does mean it requires new physics.

FoxtArt
04-20-2022, 08:04
No. The speed of light is a defined limit in your locality. You can have a velocity > c relative to a receding reference frame (e.g, 2 points in space-time each traveling 0.75c in their own reference frames will have a relative velocity of 1.5c * cos (angle between their respective velocity vectors) but there is nothing in known physics that allows anything to travel faster than light in the local reference frame. That doesn't mean it's impossible but it does mean it requires new physics.

Once again, even our understanding of physics permit the apparent violation of C it exclusively when you are dealing with spacetime compression/expansion. The early universe inflated well in excess of C in relation to a fixed reference point. So in other words, if we imagine two fixed, imaginary objects in the early universe, they were spreading apart faster than even C - often by large margins. But, all the while, they were not breaking light speed. It is important to understand that the distances between objects can be changed/dilated/expanded in spacetime which does not run afoul of the constant itself. It is akin to saying we can get from NYC to India in six hours. Not by incredible speed, but instead by shortening the distance by going through the earth. Likewise if the earth is inflating, the distances between us and India increase. If the earth inflates fast enough, that distance increases faster than light speed, but neither India or NYC has moved. This is also how something can make impossible movements (right angle turns for instance) without destructing. If you aren't moving through spacetime, but instead moving spacetime, your movement is minimal while your apparent movement is substantial.

These physics are well understood by scientists on earth. And there is some progress towards the theoretical warp bubbles here (spacetime manipulation like I described), they are just, so far, on a microscopic level. So we do understand it, it is not currently possible for us purely from a technological perspective. If we don't wipe ourselves out, there is a 99% chance it will be, someday.

00tec
04-20-2022, 10:07
WTF does this have to do with Elon and Twitter again?

clodhopper
04-20-2022, 11:27
WTF does this have to do with Elon and Twitter again?

Elon to spaceX to long distance space travel to speed limitations to physics discussion.

Pretty conventional sidetrack.

Gman
04-20-2022, 13:08
WTF does this have to do with Elon and Twitter again?

Word.

rondog
04-20-2022, 14:02
He should buy Facebook too and clean THAT shithole up.

BladesNBarrels
04-20-2022, 16:50
WTF does this have to do with Elon and Twitter again?

Twitter is a big rabbit hole

Just proved by this trip chasing the rabbit

https://i.imgur.com/ldqMz6h.jpg

BushMasterBoy
04-21-2022, 20:27
This article is claiming Starlink is keeping Ukraine connected despite Russian attempts to jam the satellites. It is my understanding that the board of directors of Twitter does not want Mr. Musk airing the dirty laundry of its past actions. Unfair censorship tactics per se.


https://news.yahoo.com/spacex-shut-down-russian-electromagnetic-190254556.html

DFBrews
04-21-2022, 22:43
Gab has been asking for a couple billion from Elon to make it the defacto free speech platform for months but has been ignored.
Truth social launch was terrible and soured the user base. DWAC suffered greatly after the decision not to merge losing 2/3rds of market value since the beginning of march.

A billionaire with a wild hair up his ass to buy a global social media platform is unrealistic without serious scrutiny from many areas.
He doesn?t care about the free speech unless it benefits him. He has verifiably censored media about his products more than once.

Elons business endeavors thrive with media attention. If he keeps his name in the headlines it?s free marketing.

Shout out to the volatility he provides. I have made solid
Moneys this week with Tesla earnings calls yesterday followed buy puts today and both calls and puts on twitter this week.

Circuits
04-21-2022, 23:02
Ol' Musk put together a buyout bid at $46.5B with backing, pledging 33.5B of his own money, and threatening to put the question directly to the Twitter shareholders if the board balks again.

Aloha_Shooter
04-22-2022, 23:27
Once again, even our understanding of physics permit the apparent violation of C it exclusively when you are dealing with spacetime compression/expansion. The early universe inflated well in excess of C in relation to a fixed reference point. So in other words, if we imagine two fixed, imaginary objects in the early universe, they were spreading apart faster than even C - often by large margins. But, all the while, they were not breaking light speed. It is important to understand that the distances between objects can be changed/dilated/expanded in spacetime which does not run afoul of the constant itself. It is akin to saying we can get from NYC to India in six hours. Not by incredible speed, but instead by shortening the distance by going through the earth. Likewise if the earth is inflating, the distances between us and India increase. If the earth inflates fast enough, that distance increases faster than light speed, but neither India or NYC has moved. This is also how something can make impossible movements (right angle turns for instance) without destructing. If you aren't moving through spacetime, but instead moving spacetime, your movement is minimal while your apparent movement is substantial.

These physics are well understood by scientists on earth. And there is some progress towards the theoretical warp bubbles here (spacetime manipulation like I described), they are just, so far, on a microscopic level. So we do understand it, it is not currently possible for us purely from a technological perspective. If we don't wipe ourselves out, there is a 99% chance it will be, someday.

What you're describing is what I said about different reference frames but there is no known physics that allows you to travel faster than light in the local reference frame. It violates the General Theory of Relativity which has survived more experiments than just any theory in the history of physics.

00tec
04-23-2022, 02:01
/thread

Astrophysics isn't what I read into with the title

00tec
04-25-2022, 13:30
Sounds like the board accepted the deal

Scanker19
04-25-2022, 13:40
Sounds like the board accepted the deal

Which by default means they declined my offer…

brutal
04-25-2022, 14:15
Twitterverse meltdown in 3, 2, 1...

Seen on twitter, "I'm quitting twitter!" is the new "If Trump wins, I'm moving to Canada!"

IOW, they'll all be back online in a week screeching the same garbage.

RblDiver
04-25-2022, 14:37
I hear Twitter has an office in Boulder. If I could stand Boulder, I'd love to just go and "bird" watch. Of course, I can't, so I won't.

Aloha_Shooter
04-25-2022, 15:02
Elon moves fast. I was thinking he'd let the stock price melt down for another week before solidifying the acquisition. I was still contemplating jumping in and buying some shares for immediate profit when the news came out and price skyrocketed.

FoxtArt
04-25-2022, 15:34
Dang. Should've bought Twitter. Just was busy.

And Elon is smart...

You could put 60 billion into some purported "free speech platform" and you'd be wasting about 59.5 billion of your investment.

Just because you can build something doesn't mean you can get anyone to use it. Buy out what they use, and you solve problem #1. Then, you can address #2 with users that remain, and maybe #3 bring new users back.

It is akin to trying to build a "new windows operating system" to compete with Microsoft. It would be REALLY stupid to invest 50 billion into that. They could make something that works perfectly and still only capture 10% or less of market share, because people keep using what they already know.

Buy out Microsoft though, then rebuild it, and you have a viable chance to be the industry leader with your vision with OS going forward. Same/Same.

BladesNBarrels
04-25-2022, 15:48
From Yahoo Finance feed

Twitter (TWTR) announced on Monday that it has entered into a deal to be acquired by Tesla CEO Elon Musk for $44 billion.
Twitter shareholders will receive $54.20 per share, and when the deal is finalized the social network will become a privately held company.

Twitter trading was halted Monday afternoon ahead of the news.
Shares were up 6% just after 3:30 p.m. EST.

I guess they held out for an extra billion, but less than the financing Musk had packaged.

kidicarus13
04-25-2022, 17:57
I was still contemplating jumping in and buying some shares for immediate profit when the news came out and price skyrocketed.






Twitter trading was halted Monday afternoon ahead of the news.
Shares were up 6% just after 3:30 p.m. EST.


I guess we use a different definition for "skyrocket".
90161

Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

bellavite1
04-25-2022, 20:19
Just signed up on Twitter...Don't even know what it's for...[Coffee]

battlemidget
04-25-2022, 21:08
I had a twitter account when I lived in a city and used mass transit to get to work, very helpful on delays and up to date info. I don't recall that I ever posted anything but I used to follow Cobra Commander and Drunk Hulk, regular fountains of contemporary wisdom to spice up my transit updates.
One of the better troll accounts I followed was on Mayor Mike Bloomberg, who's espanol was notoriously horrible so El Bloombito always provided very questionable translations.

DFBrews
04-25-2022, 21:13
Elon moves fast. I was thinking he'd let the stock price melt down for another week before solidifying the acquisition. I was still contemplating jumping in and buying some shares for immediate profit when the news came out and price skyrocketed.


Dang. Should've bought Twitter. Just was busy.

And Elon is smart....


From Yahoo Finance feed

Twitter (TWTR) announced on Monday that it has entered into a deal to be acquired by Tesla CEO Elon Musk for $44 billion.
Twitter shareholders will receive $54.20 per share, and when the deal is finalized the social network will become a privately held company.

Twitter trading was halted Monday afternoon ahead of the news.
Shares were up 6% .


I guess we use a different definition for "skyrocket".
90161

Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk


I do a decent amount of day trading and kid is right. I have been swinging twitter calls waiting for this to come through and even after the T1 algorithm uphalt my 51 dollar twitter calls made me a balmy 6 bucks a contract as a high with close all below.


DWAC bled today and the downside paid amazing. 113 per contract profit.

Because it is an spac lowest it can go is 10 dollars…. It’s getting close