View Full Version : Artemis Moon Rocket Launches Tomorrow
BushMasterBoy
08-28-2022, 12:16
Giant rocket launch tomorrow morning! Unmanned mission to orbit the moon. It is supposed to be as loud as 10,000 jet engines. This rocket is larger than the Saturn V that took man to the moon.
https://www.nasa.gov/specials/artemis/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQsW7icfJk4
electronman1729
08-28-2022, 13:00
How many years is this project behind schedule?
.455_Hunter
08-28-2022, 13:14
I don't think it's larger than a Saturn V, but does have more thrust.
battlemidget
08-28-2022, 14:24
This is gonna be a window rattler, but I think it's gonna scrub.
----------------Saturn----------Art
Propulsion--- 3 stages------ 2 stages
Height ----- 363 feet------- 212 feet
Diameter --- 33 feet------ 27.6 feet
Weight ---- 6.5 million lbs.------ 5.75 million lbs.
Thrust ----- 7.5 million lbs. ------ 8.8 million lbs.
So smaller over all - but the crew module is bigger with longer duration.
Zundfolge
08-28-2022, 14:59
How many years is this project behind schedule?
50 as of February (Feb 1972 was when Apollo 18 was supposed to launch).
----------------Saturn----------Art
Propulsion--- 3 stages------ 2 stages
Height ----- 363 feet------- 212 feet
Diameter --- 33 feet------ 27.6 feet
Weight ---- 6.5 million lbs.------ 5.75 million lbs.
Thrust ----- 7.5 million lbs. ------ 8.8 million lbs.
Smaller, lighter but with more than a million pounds more thrust.
No matter which way you spin it, that's a win.
O2
It's also interesting to see NASA again involved in a space race. But this time instead of the ruskies, they're racing against Elon.
And like all governments, they'll cheat if they need to by having the FAA keep Elon's tests on the ground.
O2
.455_Hunter
08-28-2022, 16:59
Smaller, lighter but with more than a million pounds more thrust.
No matter which way you spin it, that's a win.
O2
I would hope there would be some significant performance improvements over half a century of development.
The Saturn used what was essentially just scale-up of early proven engine designs to get something functional before Kennedy's deadline and not decades later.
We will see soon if all that NASA and contractor computing and design modeling power devoted to Artemis was up to snuff.
Almost a year late and over 90 Billion in cost, so far to not even make it to the mark 50 years old. Color me unimpressed.
BushMasterBoy
08-28-2022, 21:02
I think the delay was due to development of computer systems capable of handling so much data. It is my understanding that the Apollo 11 Lunar Excursion Module landed on the moon using 4K of RAM.
There is a recent report of a new material "cubic boron" that may far exceed silicon as a semiconductor. This material with Artificial Intelligence computing maybe a breakthrough for space transportation systems.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/best-semiconductor-boron-arsenide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_High_Speed_Integrated_Circuit_Program
Bailey Guns
08-29-2022, 07:59
Scrubbed...another fuel leak in the hydrogen system.
eddiememphis
08-29-2022, 08:02
This is gonna be a window rattler, but I think it's gonna scrub.
Hey Nostradamus, got any winning lotto numbers in your crystal ball?
BushMasterBoy
08-29-2022, 09:20
New launch window opens Friday. 500,000 extra people in the Space Coast area to see it liftoff.
NASA had the same problem with STS-26. Leaking hydrogen line! I said just cut a hole in the payload bay, wrap the line with tape and put a clamp around it. That is just what they did. It launched on this same day of 1988. Sorry, I can't make any winning suggestions today. I desperately need surgery. I am sick AF...
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19900009169
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-26
https://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2022/08/29/hardware-issues-force-nasa-scrub-artemis-is-first-launch-attempt/7879924001/
electronman1729
08-29-2022, 10:50
Give it atleast another year
TEAMRICO
08-29-2022, 14:34
Awe, the Muslim Outreach will have to wait.
BushMasterBoy
08-29-2022, 15:06
Hell I'll drive down there before a year is up. I got my eye on a few Corvettes. The SLS is basically the same as the Space Shuttle. Same SSME's , same SRB's with an extra section.
Can't be any worse than this boiled egg I made today. It exploded!
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theGinsue
08-29-2022, 18:03
The boiled egg pic - with the obligatory toes in the pic. Doesn't look like that would have been fun to clean up but here's hoping Artemis doesn't have a similar event at liftoff.
eddiememphis
08-29-2022, 18:38
Aren't you supposed to have water in the pan to boil things?
eddiememphis
08-29-2022, 18:43
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-bmzrwkz/0/M/i-bmzrwkz-M.jpg
Best hard boiled eggs- Steam for 13 minutes and drop in an ice bath for about 10 minutes.
Perfect color and texture. The shells come off in two pieces. Every time I do it I am amazed how good they turn out.
BushMasterBoy
08-29-2022, 22:23
The egg failure was definitely a "loss of coolant " event. The SLS is experiencing the same anomaly.
The engines are fed liquid hydrogen to cool them preflight and also post launch. The fuel is the coolant. The nozzles have 1080 tubes of liquid hydrogen flowing through them before ignition. Video below is a silly, but close enough analogy of the system.
https://spacenews.com/nasa-continues-to-study-issues-that-caused-artemis-1-launch-scrub/
"Controllers scrubbed the launch when they were unable to resolve a hydrogen bleed line issue with one of four RS-25 engines in the core stage. The bleed is designed to flow hydrogen into the engines to condition them thermally for flight. For three of the engines, the bleed was working as planned, cooling the engines to the required temperature, but for the fourth, designated engine #3, it did not cool down sufficiently."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH_iiX8nA5M
BushMasterBoy
09-03-2022, 09:44
Now the rocket has a leak. So no launch today!
https://news.yahoo.com/nasa-fuels-moon-rocket-weeks-110132349.html
They seem to be way behind and are rushing forward to catch up and making a mess of it, IMO.
eddiememphis
09-03-2022, 14:07
How hard is it to launch a rocket?
A million drunk hillbillies do it every July.
1. Light fuse.
2. Get away.
BushMasterBoy
09-03-2022, 14:21
Here, hold my beer...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCm6gRHINqA
electronman1729
09-03-2022, 14:38
Herr is a sad fact, one SLS has cost equavlent to one third of Apollo and Gemini combined.
It is an expensive HUGE project, best to side on caution and check it out than take the chance a failure, especially since the whole world is watching!
Problem is, they might need to 'hanger' the thing to work on it. Next 2 week launch windows are mid Sept. and mid Oct. from what I have heard. One of the important variables of launch time is calculating an Earth re-entry, upon mission end, during daylight.
I can't even imagine the pressure on these gals/guys/geeks who work on or are responsible for this thing, good luck and I know you can make it happen. Take your time.
I anticipate the failure. Challenger all over again. Just more fake NASA stuff to distract the masses.
I anticipate the failure. Challenger all over again. Just more fake NASA stuff to distract the masses.
[Wow2]
BushMasterBoy
09-05-2022, 21:00
The main booster is made from leftover Space Shuttle parts. Strapping solid rocket boosters to big tanks of hydrogen and oxygen seems a recipe for disaster. Last I heard the engine temp sensor had an anomaly. Then an 8 inch hydrogen breakaway fuel line has a seal leaking. I was hoping for a trouble free launch.
Circuits
09-05-2022, 23:40
The main booster is made from leftover Space Shuttle parts. Strapping solid rocket boosters to big tanks of hydrogen and oxygen seems a recipe for disaster. Last I heard the engine temp sensor had an anomaly. Then an 8 inch hydrogen breakaway fuel line has a seal leaking. I was hoping for a trouble free launch.
It's a government-run, government-paid project. Failure is not an option because there'd be blame, but delays and over-runs are par for the course.
At this rate, Starship will beat SLS to orbit, and even if this one finally flies, SLS is already irrelevant and outdated.
buffalobo
09-06-2022, 05:19
Govt program, cost over runs, delays, irrelevant, out dated, imagine that.
BushMasterBoy
11-11-2022, 16:24
Artemis 1 launch slated for November 15!
https://www.google.com/search?q=launch+Artemis+1+launch&gs_ivs=1#tts=0:~:text=November%2015%2C%202022%20at %2011%3A04%20PM%20MST
electronman1729
11-11-2022, 21:04
Not holding my breath. I read the engines may expire at the end of the month.
BushMasterBoy
11-12-2022, 00:00
WX looks good. I'd ride in it, if they let me.
Aloha_Shooter
11-14-2022, 21:55
Artemis 1 launch slated for November 15!
https://www.google.com/search?q=launch+Artemis+1+launch&gs_ivs=1#tts=0:~:text=November%2015%2C%202022%20at %2011%3A04%20PM%20MST
Correction: Scheduled for Wednesday, Nov 16.
https://www.space.com/artemis-1-moon-launch-delay-november-16-tropical-storm-nicole
BushMasterBoy
11-14-2022, 22:53
My understanding is that some silicone sealer peeled off. RTV usually has a 24 hour cure time.
Aloha_Shooter
11-15-2022, 05:29
I don't remember what the problem was this time, the rescheduling to tomorrow was effective last week.
Correction: Scheduled for Wednesday, Nov 16.
https://www.space.com/artemis-1-moon-launch-delay-november-16-tropical-storm-nicole
You were right the first time... it's the 15th for Colorado.
November 15th (tonight) at 11pm our time, November 16th at 1am East coast time.
O2
FYI, there's a tenuous Colorado connection to this launch. The launch contains a CubeSat called OMOTENASHI (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMOTENASHI) (which is one heck of a backronym (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backronym)). OMOTENASHI is planned to survive somewhat of a "crash landing" on the moon.
OMOTENASHI will transmit information back to earth on the 70cm band, and the Deep Space Exploration Society (http://dses.science/) here in Colorado will be trying to pick up their broadcasts with their 18m radio telescope located in Haswell, Colorado as a backup to Japan's assets, since OMOTENASHI is supposed to land while the moon is in full view of DSES' dish (if the launch goes off tonight during the launch window).
O2
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BushMasterBoy
11-15-2022, 10:38
13 hours 25 minutes until launch at this post.
DenverGP
11-15-2022, 21:39
just saw video of a couple nasa technicians out on the pad dealing with a hydrogen leak. What a shock... that's only happened every single time they've tried the fueling tests.
BushMasterBoy
11-16-2022, 00:56
Artemis 1 is go!
Watched until MECO, hope everything else as well!
.455_Hunter
11-16-2022, 02:40
Just under 50 years between today's launch and Apollo 17's mission. Way too long...
Cool live view of the Earth right now from 58,000 miles.
eddiememphis
11-16-2022, 18:09
That thing uses a lot fuel.
Why didn't they launch during the day so it could use solar panels as energy?
Very impressive 'night' launch, they had a 2-hr. window, glad it went well.
The numbers are staggering on the rockets weight, fuel weight, booster's and main engine's output, speed and everything else.
Awesome (but kind of expensive) work NASA!
eddiememphis
11-16-2022, 20:56
Very impressive 'night' launch, they had a 2-hr. window, glad it went well.
The numbers are staggering on the rockets weight, fuel weight, booster's and main engine's output, speed and everything else.
Awesome (but kind of expensive) work NASA!
$20 billion, give or take.
President Biden just requested an additional $37 billion to fund this month's Ukraine war, as the total nears $100 billion in ten months.
BushMasterBoy
11-17-2022, 17:00
Your weight on the Moon is 16.5% what you would experience on Earth. If we launched from the moon, we would need far less fuel to get to Mars.
That was quite a show.
Mankind's best hope is here on earth. Mars is a distraction.
BushMasterBoy
11-18-2022, 13:03
That was quite a show.
Mankind's best hope is here on earth. Mars is a distraction.
Until a large asteroid hits the planet, then we will wonder why we didn't do anything. An ELE (extinction level event) is due to the mathematical odds. The last known large impact was in Arizona. If it happened today, we probably would not survive in Colorado.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_Crater
Mars is hostile to human existence. Period. Plus they also get asteroids.
That's the best excuse you've got?
BushMasterBoy
11-19-2022, 15:31
Mars is hostile to human existence. Period. Plus they also get asteroids.
That's the best excuse you've got?
You are right, we should spend all the money on you.
BushMasterBoy
12-01-2022, 07:57
It blew the doors off the launch pad!
https://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2022/11/22/nasa-artemis-rockets-eye-watering-power-damaged-launcher-ksc/10755266002/
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