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Waldo1
10-11-2022, 11:20
https://youtu.be/H4Z1x8Ou8V

Little Dutch
10-11-2022, 12:18
Got a Video Not Available Anymore message when I clicked the link. They, YouTube, yanked that one quick I guess.

Waldo1
10-11-2022, 13:18
It should be embedded here about halfway down. I like her.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tulsi-gabbard-abandons-elitist-woke-anti-white-democratic-party

flogger
10-11-2022, 14:56
Tulsi Gabbard leaving the Democratic Party. You go girl!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2UeyV6qGcK8

BPTactical
10-11-2022, 15:04
Beware of the wolf in sheeps clothing....

beast556
10-11-2022, 15:10
Beware of the wolf in sheeps clothing....

I have a strong feeling Bert's statement is very true!

flogger
10-11-2022, 15:15
We shall see!

sbgixxer
10-11-2022, 15:59
Thanks for the link. I hope she's too big and vocal to be Clintoned.

buffalobo
10-11-2022, 16:46
Threads merged.

BushMasterBoy
10-11-2022, 17:13
Democraps vs Repooblicans, all the same sh*t. Produce nothing but division. God help us.

3beansalad
10-11-2022, 17:17
Beware of the wolf in sheeps clothing....

Amen! While I find her incredibly attractive, I don't believe a word of it. They'll do anything to take the focus off the current administration's failures.

eddiememphis
10-11-2022, 17:23
She is a liberal that doesn't like the far left swing of her party so she renounced affiliation.

Not a loss for the left, not a gain for the right.

I don't think she will remain in politics. There is a lot of money to be made on television, especially for someone that seems a bit more moderate than the far left commentators that occupy a lot of the space.

With CNN's attempt at rebranding as less staunchly leftist, there is likely room for her at or near the top of their lineup.

eddiememphis
10-11-2022, 17:31
Amen! While I find her incredibly attractive, I don't believe a word of it. They'll do anything to take the focus off the current administration's failures.

If by "they" you mean the Democratic Party, she was alienated by them a couple of years ago for not going along with their embrace of radical leftism. She does not strike me as someone who would "take one for the team" as a distraction to ensure them remaining in power.

If anything, this seems more like a final fuck you to a party she has worked with and for her entire political career.

She has not renounced her liberal ideals- pro abortion, anti-fracking, etc., but she has spoken out against the wacko shit they are espousing of late- critical race theory, trans-everything, anti-police and the like.

Clint45
10-11-2022, 18:16
They excommunicated her for trouncing Kamala in the debates. She seems alright.

flogger
10-11-2022, 18:32
Any guesses if Pelosi and the gang were aware of this? Hell, they could have helped plan it!

She hit some key points that may have "swayed some political opinions" of her stance, risky.

battlemidget
10-11-2022, 18:39
She does her homework and presents well. Out of all the dems on stage in the '20 debate(s), she had the best 'presidential timber' imho.

3beansalad
10-11-2022, 20:34
If by "they" you mean the Democratic Party, she was alienated by them a couple of years ago for not going along with their embrace of radical leftism. She does not strike me as someone who would "take one for the team" as a distraction to ensure them remaining in power.

If anything, this seems more like a final fuck you to a party she has worked with and for her entire political career.

She has not renounced her liberal ideals- pro abortion, anti-fracking, etc., but she has spoken out against the wacko shit they are espousing of late- critical race theory, trans-everything, anti-police and the like.

I can't argue your points, but I also find that democrats don't do (or allow,) anything that goes against their agenda. She was on Glenn Beck this morning and sounded extremely sincere, but I remain extremely cautious of her declaration. Long story short, something about this is "off" for me.

brutal
10-11-2022, 22:35
Wow, didn't see that one coming (not).

[Roll1]


Among other things, the party didn't like her hanging out with Tucker Carlson so much.

rondog
10-11-2022, 22:48
Who?

BREATHER
10-12-2022, 04:44
Look at her stance on 2nd Amendment issues

hollohas
10-12-2022, 06:13
She's more of a traditional dem who doesn't like the extreme far left turn her party has taken. She's been outspoken about leftist extremism for a long time. Her party moved, she didn't. A decent dem, but still a dem, party affiliation or not.

She's on a short list of current dems I don't hate even if I don't agree with all of her policy positions.

flogger
10-12-2022, 08:24
It?s interesting the lack of coverage on main stream media

wctriumph
10-12-2022, 09:05
She is still a democrat and just because she left her party doesn’t mean she has come over to the right side of things. She still has her core beliefs that would threaten some of our basic rights. She said she will defend the Constitution but no reason for you to have a modern semiautomatic rifle with a detachable magazine of more than 10 rounds.
No one on the congressional left is following her lead and last night some leftists and calling her a traitor and a Russian asset that wants to destroy America.
Maybe Trump will choose her for VP.

Eric P
10-12-2022, 15:21
Still an anti 2A demon

flogger
10-12-2022, 18:59
She's more of a traditional dem who doesn't like the extreme far left turn her party has taken. She's been outspoken about leftist extremism for a long time. Her party moved, she didn't. A decent dem, but still a dem, party affiliation or not.

She's on a short list of current dems I don't hate even if I don't agree with all of her policy positions.

I agree. Still like the fact that she called out the Dems flaws for her decision to leave the party. She is obviously anti 2nd Amendment (not good) but certainly pulled back a scab and made a few enemies. Interesting timing with the mid-terms.

clodhopper
10-12-2022, 19:19
Still an anti 2A demon

I think there may be more to the story on that. Or she could be a full of shit faker. Not hard to believe the Dem party might have mandated what her positions would be. Be interesting to hear how it shakes out.

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brutal
10-13-2022, 01:10
The flaming lib on the 5, Jessica Tarlov, ripped Tulsi for being an evil fake Dem. They despise and loather her for speaking the truth.

Bailey Guns
10-13-2022, 04:22
She's said her position on the 2A has changed a couple of times recently. I guess we'll see. If she's truly a convert away from the party of evil that's a good thing.

Scanker19
10-13-2022, 07:42
I like her, but I’m apprehensive. As we all should be towards any politician. They are not our friends. And hating her because she seems like a Democrat is divisive and unhelpful. Maybe hear what she has to say now and not in the past. Make an informed decision and one based in a priority of needs type of way, rather than she/he doesn’t check all my boxes. There is no perfect candidate.

I just think any politician can be anti 2a when it comes time to vote. Keep in mind, it was trunk that started the bump stock fiasco.

Aloha_Shooter
10-13-2022, 08:23
She's still not a conservative but she IS a liberal with a conscience, one who likes intellectual honesty and consistency -- and one who genuinely loves America. That's common ground I can get behind. I still disagree with some of her statements from her time as a Representative for Hawai`i and Democratic presidential candidate but there's enough common ground to have a useful and interesting discussion.

Little Dutch
10-13-2022, 09:02
She was dead to the democrat party back in 2021 when she came off as anti-jab mandate on the Megyn Kelly show. She dared to mention natural anti-bodies without mocking anyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teaxhSTZsKI&ab_channel=MegynKelly

hollohas
10-13-2022, 10:22
If the media keeps giving her airtime to trash Dems, she's helpful to us.

BPTactical
10-13-2022, 11:27
The enemy of my enemy is my friend*








*with extreme trepidation & caution.

Singlestack
10-13-2022, 12:51
Like many others, I'm very cautiously interested in what she thinks. What I have found most compelling is what I perceive to be intellectual honesty in the past year or two. Dems now are pretty much devoid of that.

Bailey Guns
10-13-2022, 18:17
...but there's enough common ground to have a useful and interesting discussion.

And she's one with whom you could actually do that. Rare breed among the left. I'm at least willing to give her a chance.

Eric P
10-14-2022, 01:04
And she's one with whom you could actually do that. Rare breed among the left. I'm at least willing to give her a chance.

This is how you shift the center to your side.

She is a full on Democrat and anti 2A unless it gets her votes like RINOs. Almost as bad as FUDDs with thier support of 2A limited to hunting and wood clad rifles.

Bailey Guns
10-14-2022, 06:14
I'm always amazed by some on these forums...

Constant, non-stop bitching about the left being anti-gun and how that's awful, blah, blah, blah. And it is. But when someone has a change of heart and actually appears to be trying to change their outlook on things (which is what appears to be happening with Gabbard), still bitching. No attempt whatsoever to encourage a positive shift.

She could be full of crap. She's certainly been hard-core anti-gun in the past. But now she's shooting, even the evil black rifles, and talking about restoring fundamental rights for everyone. It's entirely possible she's being honest and has changed her position on some things...it's happened before. She's even said she's changed her thoughts on guns. I'm not saying we need to go all in on Gabbard. But what's the harm in listening to what she has to say? She can always be judged by how her words are reflected in her actions going forward.

hollohas
10-14-2022, 10:33
She is a full on Democrat and anti 2A unless it gets her votes like RINOs.

What's she trying to get votes for? She's not even running for any office...

Right now she's simply a former congresswoman and current political pundit that's endorsing republicans and talking shit about Dems. That's good for us.

Singlestack
10-19-2022, 06:16
I'm always amazed by some on these forums...

Constant, non-stop bitching about the left being anti-gun and how that's awful, blah, blah, blah. And it is. But when someone has a change of heart and actually appears to be trying to change their outlook on things (which is what appears to be happening with Gabbard), still bitching. No attempt whatsoever to encourage a positive shift.

She could be full of crap. She's certainly been hard-core anti-gun in the past. But now she's shooting, even the evil black rifles, and talking about restoring fundamental rights for everyone. It's entirely possible she's being honest and has changed her position on some things...it's happened before. She's even said she's changed her thoughts on guns. I'm not saying we need to go all in on Gabbard. But what's the harm in listening to what she has to say? She can always be judged by how her words are reflected in her actions going forward.

Great advice, and something we should keep in mind. The opposite version of this is like in 2012 when Romney and Ryan were the repub ticket. Since then, both showed themselves to be dems in disguise. I still feel awful about going to their rally at Fiddler's Green a few days b4 the election. Still feel dirty...

hurley842002
10-19-2022, 06:27
I'm always amazed by some on these forums...

Constant, non-stop bitching about the left being anti-gun and how that's awful, blah, blah, blah. And it is. But when someone has a change of heart and actually appears to be trying to change their outlook on things (which is what appears to be happening with Gabbard), still bitching. No attempt whatsoever to encourage a positive shift.

She could be full of crap. She's certainly been hard-core anti-gun in the past. But now she's shooting, even the evil black rifles, and talking about restoring fundamental rights for everyone. It's entirely possible she's being honest and has changed her position on some things...it's happened before. She's even said she's changed her thoughts on guns. I'm not saying we need to go all in on Gabbard. But what's the harm in listening to what she has to say? She can always be judged by how her words are reflected in her actions going forward.

I completely agreed. Could it not be, that the extreme overreach that we've seen by the left over the last several years, caused a person to sit back and say "What have I been thinking all these years, maybe we actually DO need the rights protected by the 2a" or something similar. We only see a fraction of the shady shit happening within politics, someone who has "been there" is much more enlightened than that general public, and if you have ANY sort of integrity, your eyes may open eventually. My mom was a lifelong Dem, not hardcore leftist or anything, but that's how she voted, sometime during the Obama administration she said enough, and has voted Republican ever since. People can change.

brutal
10-19-2022, 22:10
Looks like she's actively campaigning for Kari Lake (R) in AZ.

Got my ballot today. Dropping off tomorrow at my usual spot (Parker PD).