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RblDiver
12-03-2022, 09:54
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598822959866683394

Short version, yup, tons of collusion between Twitter employees and government employees to censor information, though apparently more of a "Oops we made a mistake, let's keep going with it" than "Grand conspiracy" material. Also, senior execs managed to keep it from then-CEO Jack Dorsey.

Singlestack
12-03-2022, 12:40
Dorsey seemed to impress me early on as a bit clueless but not rabidly leftist like many. This seems to support that. The early disclosures were pretty much what we have known. Guessing by the lefty freakout there is more, and more damaging, revelations upcoming. I'm interested in seeing evidence of 1st amendment censorship collusion with DNC and the white house. The smoke hints at it strongly.

Aloha_Shooter
12-03-2022, 14:21
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598822959866683394

Short version, yup, tons of collusion between Twitter employees and government employees to censor information, though apparently more of a "Oops we made a mistake, let's keep going with it" than "Grand conspiracy" material. Also, senior execs managed to keep it from then-CEO Jack Dorsey.

Not quite.


The decision was made at the highest levels of the company, but without the knowledge of CEO Jack Dorsey, with former head of legal, policy and trust Vijaya Gadde playing a key role.


“They just freelanced it,” is how one former employee characterized the decision. “Hacking was the excuse, but within a few hours, pretty much everyone realized that wasn’t going to hold. But no one had the guts to reverse it.”

That sounds very much like an intentional act by Gadde and others, not "oops, we made a mistake". Gadde's history has shown she is an ideologue and partisan so this isn't any surprise and as Chief Legal Officer, none of the peons below were willing to try to reverse her.

Jim Baker, who advised to "stay the course", was also an ardent partisan and anti-Trumper so I'm not inclined to give him the benefit of doubt in making an honest mistake. It looks more like using the appearance of caution to cover for a blatantly partisan impulse. Add the collusion with Democrat lawmakers who wanted more "moderation" and it looks more and more like conspiracy to keep information on the Bidens' foreign dealings out of the news until after the election.

RblDiver
12-07-2022, 00:26
The latest: Twitter attorney Jim Baker was "exited" from the company. Looks like he may have been trying to censor some of the files being released, omitting references to his former FBI employers.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1600237095364096000?t=L2Hq0nFaYPLxV1_y_AFYnA

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1600243405841666048?t=mXqbkAnFulRbL72WkrgTdw

BushMasterBoy
12-07-2022, 15:41
Sounds like the X-Files, eventually they get solved. Usually a tale of who is doing who, in the zoo! It would be really fun to own a rocket firm, an ISP and a social media outlet. Am I being too cryptic?

Aloha_Shooter
12-08-2022, 09:08
I'd say more obtuse than cryptic but whatever floats your boat ...

Singlestack
12-09-2022, 16:57
For those that have been paying attention, the twitter files are really nothing more so far than providing receipts for what we already knew had to be happening. I'm interested in new dumps showing evidence of collusion/collaboration between FBI-Twitter. White House-Twitter, and other social media-Twitter (Facebook, google, Youtube, Instagram, etc). This has all kinds of angles, from 1st degree gov violation of 1st amendment, election interference, antitrust violations, corruption, tax-exempt activity, and section 290 violations.

The hard part about this is even if the house makes criminal referrals to the (in)justice dept, it will take a new prez in 2024 to install a new AG & justice dept to actually do anything about it.

RblDiver
12-09-2022, 18:23
The Removal of Donald Trump, Part One: Oct 2020-Jan 6th
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1601352083617505281

arbol
12-09-2022, 20:23
Reddit, out right banned, the_donald, never looked back.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

-John

RblDiver
12-11-2022, 02:11
Part 4, the removal of Trump
https://twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD/status/1601720455005511680

(And since I forgot to post it, Part 2, Secret Blacklists)
https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1601007575633305600

Apparently only _one_ person, who was low level, had serious concerns:
https://twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD/status/1601738099062558720
"This might be an unpopular opinion but one off ad hoc decisions like this that don't appear rooted in policy are imho a slippery slope and reflect an alternatively equally dictatorial problem. This now appears to be a fiat by an online platform CEO with a global presence that can gatekeep speech for the entire world - which seems unsustainable."

RblDiver
12-12-2022, 23:11
Part 5: The removal of Trump continued
https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1602364197194432515

battlemidget
12-13-2022, 06:35
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241


"
If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or

If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—

They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
"

arbol
12-15-2022, 19:29
As we all know, it is not just twitter.

Google's search engine, refused to return results on "hillary, and benghazi" (sp)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack[B]

My Alexa, will stop talking to me, if I start talking politics.

Reddit, openly censors, conservatives, The_Donald, etc., and promotes threads that drive racism, anti-work, etc.

TikTok, is recognized as a facet of the Chinese Government, pushing stories and narratives to our young people (and everyone) that are destructive to the American way.

The latest Twitter Files, show that our own Government is doing things to Donald Trump, worse than Watergate.

But yet, there are no repercussions, nor any evidence at all that Government can be stopped.

-John

hollohas
12-16-2022, 09:13
They ALL do it. And all they have to do is censor stuff for the first week or two until they've set the narrative. After that it doesn't matter what gets out. People will never change their minds at that point. The majority of the country still believes the Russian Trump dossier.

Here are a couple screenshots I took of my searches for various things within days of the initial events... These examples are from CNN and FB. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221216/b0bb4250e2878d971ad685faf8afeb1e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221216/1b1c01fcbbff442a3115643c22cd5293.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221216/f486a7a8c9054b6792d1a0630f8343d8.jpg

Joe_K
12-16-2022, 10:05
This has gone on far longer than Twitter, Trump, or TikTok. The 1A has been under direct assault going back to at least the War Between The States. If what you say has been considered wrong speech, you will be censored.

RblDiver
12-16-2022, 16:26
Part 6, Twitter, a subsidiary of the FBI
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1603857534737072128

RblDiver
12-18-2022, 17:49
Supplement:
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1604613292491538432

RblDiver
12-19-2022, 10:10
Part 7: The FBI and Hunter's Laptop (just starting to drop as I put this in).
https://twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD/status/1604871630613753856

arbol
12-19-2022, 19:12
This has gone on far longer than Twitter, Trump, or TikTok. The 1A has been under direct assault going back to at least the War Between The States. If what you say has been considered wrong speech, you will be censored.
No, this is new, Joe K, as so much communication now happens online. It's instantly available to the Government, where an article in the Denver Post, 20 years ago, would take ages to reach Government, and/or cause a free speech issue.

The way we talk today, is under assault by Government. This, is a first amendment issue.

-John

arbol
12-19-2022, 19:37
Perhaps more importantly, the PEOPLE we listen to, are being selected by Government. We don't get to hear differing opinions. Those are censored.

This is communist China, nothing less.

-John

Joe_K
12-20-2022, 00:45
No, this is new, Joe K, as so much communication now happens online. It's instantly available to the Government, where an article in the Denver Post, 20 years ago, would take ages to reach Government, and/or cause a free speech issue.

The way we talk today, is under assault by Government. This, is a first amendment issue.

-John

It?s not the government doing it.

Singlestack
12-20-2022, 14:19
Perhaps more importantly, the PEOPLE we listen to, are being selected by Government. We don't get to hear differing opinions. Those are censored.

This is communist China, nothing less.

-John

+1. I like the rest of you have family and acquaintances who are pretty much brainwashed now. Where you get your news makes all the difference in the world. My sister in law and mother in law get their news from CBS and CNN. They don't believe news stories about Hunter's laptop, election problems, problems with the Covid vaccine, censorship in social media, and problems at the border because they aren't hearing about it through their trusted news sources. In fact, they are now conditioned to immediately dismiss any discussion about that and many other subjects as right wing disinformation.

We are seriously on the wrong side of the information war. Public opinion will not substantially shift in our favor because of lack of critical thinking in most people, lack of control of important institutions, total message coordination on the other side, and very few leaders on our side that will actually fight for what is right. Not sure what the exact term is, but at this point enough resources and momentum are engaged and fighting on the other side to win the war.

RblDiver
12-20-2022, 18:32
Part 8: Twitter aiding Pentagon's Online PsyOp Campaign
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1605292454261182464

Joe_K
01-02-2023, 08:31
No see, but, there is no way, they cannot just?, but why would they lie?
[ROFL2]
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2023/01/02/twitter-files.aspx?cid_medium=sms&cid=share

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eddiememphis
01-02-2023, 10:55
Elvis IS alive! I knew it this whole time.

arbol
01-03-2023, 20:47
The Media and Government are obviously in this together, and what they did to Donald Trump is so much worse than Watergate.

-John

arbol
01-03-2023, 20:54
What they did to the American people, is tantamount to treason.

What they continue to do today, is unconscionable.

But it is up to each one of us, to go to City Council meetings, and fight.

Go to School Council meetings, and fight.

Go to your neighbors and ask them to fight with you.

-John

theGinsue
01-03-2023, 22:13
The majority don't have either the stomach nor the inclination (too lazy) for a fight. So long as they can use the drive-thru to get their take-out coffee, all is good in their world.

To get people to stand up and make their voices heard they have to feel a direct, obvious and personal offense to themselves. For most folks, what is going on in their communities, state and this nation offers degrees of separation to see and feel the effects directly and obviously. Even when folks can see the offenses those committing them just point their fingers at others (usually blaming Conservatives) and the sheep believe what they're told.

Nothing will change because people are too comfortable. Those receiving the benefits of bad government behavior are growing in number and have an interest in continuing down this path. By the time those feeling the pinch recognize what's happening they will be too far into the minority to be able to do anything about it. It's happened many times throughout history; it just happens to be happening to us now.

Joe_K
01-03-2023, 23:41
The ones best situated and equipped to handle the problem are on the drip and are essentially hired guns for the system that is unrecognizably broken.

Every so often a convenient conflict is drummed up and the MAM population goes off to fight yet another foreign war and the stinking festering cancer at home is swept back under the rug and handed down to the next generation to deal with.

Simultaneously, each successive generation is less and less equipped to deal with the reality of the problem through the continued and ever increasing reliance on the drip, mass formation psychosis through all forms of Media and big H History TM along with a sustained effort to slowly genocide off the American population.

The population is kept ever so divided by the illusion of differing political parties and politicians, sports, and the hyper focus on all things that divide and confuse, class, race, age, sex, immigration, government administrated charitable programs, ones particular flavor of sexual deviancy, and a purposefully designed confusing economic system.

But man are we entertained and fed delicious poison. Stores and Shops on every corner where you can buy everything and anything but happiness, Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, Tell-A-Vision, CaBaal err Cable, Social Media, Casinos, Sports Betting, Movie Theaters, Pornography everywhere, Bars, Clubs, Concerts, Drugs, Amusement Parks, McDonalds, Dairy Queen, Krispy Kremes, Pizza Hut, Steroid and Hormone injected plastic ?Meat?, Bubbly Sugar Water, Candy, Bioengineered ?Food? and Booze of every kind.