View Full Version : Biden Blows Up Russian Pipeline
eddiememphis
02-09-2023, 08:21
https://nypost.com/2023/02/08/seymour-hersh-claims-us-navy-behind-nord-stream-2-pipeline-explosion/
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh has alleged US Navy divers laid bombs that destroyed the Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea last September
It is all over the news this morning, with the usual denials and calls for investigation.
It will be very interesting to see how this one plays out if it is true.
BushMasterBoy
02-09-2023, 09:33
Most underwater piplines are damaged by dragging anchors. Undersea cables are usually the biggest victims. Unless some idiot used a depth charge.
https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream
BushMasterBoy
02-09-2023, 11:36
The jackass that canceled the XL pipeline? The Lord will condemn this action.
TEAMRICO
02-09-2023, 12:31
Hunter heard Blow and Pipe and he was all for it!
hollohas
02-09-2023, 12:42
Biden literally said we would "end Nordstream 2" if Russia invaded. Shouldn't be a surprise.
Glad that the Ukraine narrative is slowly getting shredded.
BushMasterBoy
02-09-2023, 16:14
What say you?
https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3851099-forget-chinas-spy-balloon-military-ufo-incidents-are-far-more-intriguing/
KevDen2005
02-09-2023, 16:21
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clodhopper
02-09-2023, 17:16
92933
After reviewing this picture, I probably need to be more cognizant of the language I use in public on this topic........
Most underwater piplines are damaged by dragging anchors. Undersea cables are usually the biggest victims. Unless some idiot used a depth charge.
Shortly after it happened, we heard it looked like multiple limpet charges placed in several areas.
Delfuego
02-10-2023, 07:31
If it was destroyed by Navy Seals, we would know. Because the Seals would have told us, in their autobiographies and Mark Wahlberg would be filming his part in the movie already.
How deep is that pipeline, and can divers even go that deep?
KevDen2005
02-10-2023, 09:50
How deep is that pipeline, and can divers even go that deep?
They can go that deep...I heard they can go deeper
They can go that deep...I heard they can go deeper
I see what you did there - you nasty!
battlemidget
02-10-2023, 10:27
https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/2023/02/08/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream-pipeline
Check out this interesting article. Rather long, but I think it's worth the read.
TLDR- Biden used the blackshoe navy to plant the demo and the Norwegians handled the intiation.
Aloha_Shooter
02-10-2023, 10:36
I'm not buying it. Cruz had to push and prod Biden and the Dems into stopping Nordstream 2. I don't have any data on what could or did happen but I just don't buy Biden damaging his future receipts from Russian natural gas interests.
KevDen2005
02-10-2023, 10:45
I see what you did there - you nasty!
[ROFL1]
hollohas
02-10-2023, 10:48
I'm not buying it. Cruz had to push and prod Biden and the Dems into stopping Nordstream 2. I don't have any data on what could or did happen but I just don't buy Biden damaging his future receipts from Russian natural gas interests. Even though Biden literally said he'd end the pipeline if they invaded?
Aloha_Shooter
02-10-2023, 10:57
Even though Biden literally said he'd end the pipeline if they invaded?
Biden has said a lot of things. As I said (and as Hersh acknowledged in his article), Cruz had to block 64 of Biden's nominations to get him to respond to Cruz's concerns about Nordstream 2.
Biden is taking credit now for supporting Ukraine even though he had to literally be forced into doing so. No, I don't believe Biden took action. I do believe he might have been forced into not objecting when someone else took action but taking an action like this just doesn't fit his pattern of behavior.
BushMasterBoy
02-10-2023, 11:11
The deepest I have went SCUBA is 135 feet. It gets really dark. I am guessing a small submarine could go much deeper.
An underwater drone could go even deeper.
Shortly after it happened, we heard it looked like multiple limpet charges placed in several areas.
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buffalobo
02-10-2023, 12:24
Das Limpit.
If you're unarmed, you are a victim.
eddiememphis
02-10-2023, 13:26
If it was destroyed by Navy Seals, we would know. Because the Seals would have told us, in their autobiographies and Mark Wahlberg would be filming his part in the movie already.
The divers were Navy only, and not members of America's Special Operations Command, whose covert operations must be reported to Congress and briefed in advance to the Senate and House leadership-the so-called Gang of Eight.
The plan to blow up Nord Stream 1 and 2 was suddenly downgraded from a covert operation requiring that Congress be informed to one that was deemed as a highly classified intelligence operation with U.S. military support.
The deep-sea schools at Panama City, whose trainees participated in Ivy Bells, are seen as an unwanted backwater by the elite graduates of the Naval Academy in Annapolis... The least glamorous of all is mine warfare. Its divers never appear in Hollywood movies, or on the cover of popular magazines.
How deep is that pipeline, and can divers even go that deep?
The Norwegian navy was quick to find the right spot, in the shallow waters of the Baltic sea a few miles off Denmark's Bornholm Island. The pipelines ran more than a mile apart along a seafloor that was only 260 feet deep. That would be well within the range of the divers, who, operating from a Norwegian Alta class mine hunter, would dive with a mixture of oxygen, nitrogen and helium streaming from their tanks, and plant shaped C4 charges on the four pipelines with concrete protective covers.
The C4 attached to the pipelines would be triggered by a sonar buoy dropped by a plane on short notice...
On September 26, 2022, a Norwegian Navy P8 surveillance plane made a seemingly routine flight and dropped a sonar buoy. The signal spread underwater, initially to Nord Stream 2 and then on to Nord Stream 1. A few hours later, the high-powered C4 explosives were triggered and three of the four pipelines were put out of commission.
A great story, whether or not it's true.
Aardvark
02-10-2023, 17:38
If the SEALs did it, I'd expect to hear about the sudden and trajic deaths of an entire team, just like the ones tjat took out trash-bin laden.
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