HB 23-1230 aka "Assault weapons" ban

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https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2023A/bills/2023a_1230_01.pdf

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Given I hate posts with just links and no content, here is the content of the link from the OP:


First Regular Session
Seventy-fourth General Assembly
STATE OF COLORADO

INTRODUCED
LLS NO. 23-0043.02 Jane Ritter x4342 HOUSE BILL 23-1230
House Committees Senate Committees
Judiciary

A BILL FOR AN ACT
101 CONCERNING PROHIBITIONS ON CERTAIN FIREARMS USED IN PUBLIC
102 MASS SHOOTINGS.

Bill Summary
(Note: This summary applies to this bill as introduced and does
not reflect any amendments that may be subsequently adopted. If this bill
passes third reading in the house of introduction, a bill summary that
applies to the reengrossed version of this bill will be available at
http://leg.colorado.gov.)

The bill defines the term "assault weapon" and prohibits a person
from manufacturing, importing, purchasing, selling, offering to sell, or
transferring ownership of an assault weapon. The bill further prohibits a
person from possessing a rapid-fire trigger activator. A violation is a class
2 misdemeanor.


The prohibition does not apply to:

HOUSE SPONSORSHIP Epps, Bacon, Garcia, Jodeh, Mabrey, Weissman, Willford, Woodrow
SENATE SPONSORSHIP Fields, Gonzales

Shading denotes HOUSE amendment. Double underlining denotes SENATE amendment.
Capital letters or bold & italic numbers indicate new material to be added to existing law.
Dashes through the words or numbers indicate deletions from existing law.

! A member of the United States armed forces, a peace
officer, or other government officer or agent, to the extent
that such person is otherwise authorized to acquire or
possess an assault weapon and does so while acting within
the scope of the person's duties;

! The manufacture, sale, or transfer of an assault weapon by
a licensed firearms manufacturer to any branch of the
United States armed forces or to an entity that employs
peace officers for use by that agency or its employees;
! The sale or transfer of an assault weapon to a licensed
firearms dealer or gunsmith for the purposes of
maintenance, repair, or modification, and the subsequent
return of the assault weapon to the lawful owner;

! Any federal, state, or local historical society, museum, or
institutional collection that is open to the public, provided
that the assault weapon is securely housed and unloaded;

! A forensic laboratory, or any authorized agent or employee
of the laboratory, for use exclusively in the course and
scope of authorized activities;

! An entity that operates an armored vehicle business and an
authorized employee of such entity while in the course and
scope of employment;

! A licensed gun dealer who has remaining inventory of
assault weapons as of July 1, 2023, and sells or transfers
the remaining inventory only to a non-Colorado resident
and the sale or transfer takes place out-of-state; or

! A peace officer.

The bill provides civil penalties for individuals and for gun show
vendors and licensed firearms dealers who violate the law.
The bill creates the crime of possessing, manufacturing, importing,
purchasing, selling, offering to sell, or transferring ownership of a
rapid-fire trigger activator. A violation is a class 2 misdemeanor.

1 Be it enacted by the General Assembly of the State of Colorado:

2 SECTION 1. In Colorado Revised Statutes, add part 6 to article
3 12 of title 18 as follows:

4 PART 6
5 ASSAULT WEAPONS

6 18-12-601. Legislative declaration. (1) THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY
7 FINDS AND DECLARES THAT:
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(a) MASS SHOOTINGS ARE AN AMERICAN 1 EPIDEMIC THAT NO OTHER
2 INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRY EXPERIENCES AT REMOTELY THE SAME LEVEL;
3 (b) STATISTICS SHOW THAT IN EACH OF THE YEARS 2019, 2020,
4 2021, AND 2022, THERE WAS, ON AVERAGE, MORE THAN ONE MASS
5 SHOOTING PER DAY;
6 (c) BETWEEN 2009 AND 2020, THE FIVE DEADLIEST MASS
7 SHOOTING INCIDENTS IN THE UNITED STATES ALL INVOLVED THE USE OF
8 ASSAULT WEAPONS OR HIGH-CAPACITY MAGAZINES. THESE MASS
9 SHOOTINGS OCCURRED IN LAS VEGAS, NEVADA; ORLANDO, FLORIDA;
10 NEWTOWN, CONNECTICUT; SUTHERLAND SPRINGS, TEXAS; AND EL PASO,
11 TEXAS.
12 (d) COLORADO HAS BEEN THE LOCATION OF SEVERAL MASS
13 SHOOTINGS PERPETRATED WITH AN ASSAULT WEAPON, INCLUDING
14 COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL, COLORADO SPRINGS PLANNED PARENTHOOD,
15 AURORA CENTURY 16 THEATER, COLORADO SPRINGS HALLOWEEN EVE,
16 BOULDER KING SOOPERS, AND COLORADO SPRINGS CLUB Q;
17 (e) ASSAULT WEAPONS AND HIGH-CAPACITY MAGAZINES WERE
18 DISPROPORTIONATELY USED IN PUBLIC MASS SHOOTINGS. OF THESE
19 SHOOTINGS WITH KNOWN WEAPON TYPES, SEVENTY-SIX PERCENT OF THOSE
20 INVOLVED AN ASSAULT WEAPON OR HIGH-CAPACITY MAGAZINE,
21 COMPARED TO FORTY-FOUR PERCENT OF THOSE THAT INVOLVED A
22 HANDGUN.
23 (f) ASSAULT WEAPONS IN CIVILIAN HANDS ENDANGER COLORADO'S
24 STREETS, STORES, RESTAURANTS, PLACES OF WORSHIP, MUSIC VENUES,
25 SCHOOLS, MOVIE THEATERS, AND COMMUNITIES AT LARGE. WITH AN
26 ASSAULT WEAPON, EVEN A FIREARMS NOVICE CAN PERPETRATE A MASS
27 CASUALTY INCIDENT.
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(g) ASSAULT WEAPONS ARE 1 UNIQUELY LETHAL DUE TO TACTICAL
2 FEATURES THAT ARE DESIGNED FOR THE BATTLEFIELD IN ORDER TO INJURE
3 OR KILL LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY. THESE
4 TACTICAL FEATURES DIFFERENTIATE ASSAULT WEAPONS FROM OTHER
5 FIREARMS. THESE FEATURES INCLUDE DETACHABLE MAGAZINES, BARREL
6 SHROUDS, PISTOL GRIPS, FORWARD GRIPS, AND TELESCOPING STOCKS,
7 WHICH ALLOW A SHOOTER TO EITHER CONCEAL THE WEAPON OR MAKE IT
8 EASIER TO FIRE A HIGH VOLUME OF AMMUNITION IN A SHORT PERIOD OF
9 TIME WHILE MAINTAINING ACCURACY.
10 (h) THE DESIGN, FEATURES, AND PURPOSE OF AN ASSAULT WEAPON
11 MAKE IT THE FIREARM OF CHOICE FOR MASS SHOOTERS;
12 (i) THE TYPICAL ASSAULT WEAPON BULLET LEAVES THE BARREL OF
13 THE GUN THREE TIMES FASTER THAN A TYPICAL HANDGUN BULLET AND IS
14 DESIGNED TO FRAGMENT AND TUMBLE. THE HIGH VELOCITY OF THE
15 TYPICAL ASSAULT WEAPON BULLET DAMAGES AND DESTROYS TISSUE AS
16 IT TRAVELS THROUGH THE BODY, CAUSING ORGANS TO BECOME LIQUEFIED
17 AND CAUSING CATASTROPHIC INTERNAL BLEEDING.
18 (j) AN ANALYSIS OF MASS SHOOTINGS BETWEEN 2009 TO 2018
19 SHOWS THAT IN SHOOTINGS WHEN ASSAULT WEAPONS WERE USED, SIX
20 TIMES AS MANY PEOPLE WERE SHOT COMPARED TO THOSE WITHOUT
21 ASSAULT WEAPONS;
22 (k) RESEARCH SHOWS THAT BANNING ASSAULT WEAPONS LEADS
23 TO A DROP IN MASS SHOOTINGS AND GUN MASSACRES;
24 (l) IN THE TEN YEARS THAT THE FEDERAL ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN
25 WAS IN PLACE, GUN MASSACRES DROPPED THIRTY-SEVEN PERCENT. AFTER
26 THE FEDERAL ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN EXPIRED IN 2004, GUN MASSACRES
27 SKYROCKETED BY ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY-THREE PERCENT.
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(m) STATE 1 PROHIBITIONS OF ASSAULT WEAPONS ARE ASSOCIATED
2 WITH A LOWER LIKELIHOOD OF A MASS SHOOTING EVENT, LOWER
3 LIKELIHOOD OF DEATH DUE TO A MASS SHOOTING EVENT, AND LOWER GUN
4 DEATH RATES OVERALL.
5 (2) THEREFORE, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY DETERMINES THAT A
6 BAN ON KNOWINGLY MANUFACTURING, IMPORTING, PURCHASING, SELLING,
7 OFFERING TO SELL, OR TRANSFERRING OWNERSHIP OF AN ASSAULT
8 WEAPON, OR KNOWINGLY CAUSING THE MANUFACTURE, IMPORTATION,
9 PURCHASE, SALE, OFFER TO SELL OR TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP OF ASSAULT
10 WEAPONS IN COLORADO IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS OF OUR
11 STATE.
12 18-12-602. Definitions. AS USED IN THIS PART 6, UNLESS THE
13 CONTEXT OTHERWISE REQUIRES:
14 (1) (a) ".50 CALIBER RIFLE" MEANS EITHER:
15 (I) A RIFLE CAPABLE OF FIRING A CENTER-FIRE CARTRIDGE IN .50
16 BROWNING MACHINE GUN CALIBER, INCLUDING A 12.7-MILLIMETER
17 EQUIVALENT OF .50 BROWNING MACHINE GUN AND ANY OTHER METRIC
18 EQUIVALENT. AS USED IN THIS SUBSECTION (1)(a)(I), THE TERM
19 "CARTRIDGE IN .50 BROWNING MACHINE GUN CALIBER" DOES NOT INCLUDE
20 ANY MEMORABILIA OR DISPLAY ITEM THAT IS FILLED WITH A PERMANENT
21 INERT SUBSTANCE OR THAT IS OTHERWISE PERMANENTLY ALTERED IN A
22 MANNER THAT PREVENTS READY MODIFICATION FOR USE AS LIVE
23 AMMUNITION OR SHOTGUN AMMUNITION.
24 (II) A COPY OR DUPLICATE OF ANY RIFLE DESCRIBED IN
25 SUBSECTION (1)(a)(I) OF THIS SECTION IF THE RIFLE IS CAPABLE OF FIRING
26 A PROJECTILE THAT ATTAINS A MUZZLE ENERGY OF TWELVE THOUSAND
27 FOOT-POUNDS OR GREATER IN ANY COMBINATION OF BULLET,
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1 PROPELLANT, CASE, OR PRIMER.
2 (b) ".50 CALIBER RIFLE" DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY ANTIQUE
3 FIREARM; ANY SHOTGUN, INCLUDING A SHOTGUN THAT HAS A RIFLE
4 BARREL; OR ANY MUZZLE-LOADER THAT USES BLACK POWDER FOR
5 HUNTING OR HISTORICAL REENACTMENTS.
6 (2) (a) "ASSAULT WEAPON", EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN SUBSECTION
7 (2)(b) OF THIS SECTION, MEANS:
8 (I) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT HAS THE CAPACITY TO ACCEPT
9 A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE, OR THAT MAY BE READILY MODIFIED TO
10 ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE, AND HAS ONE OR MORE OF THE
11 FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS:
12 (A) A PISTOL GRIP;
13 (B) ANY FEATURE CAPABLE OF FUNCTIONING AS A PROTRUDING
14 GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE NON-TRIGGER HAND;
15 (C) A FOLDING, TELESCOPING, THUMBHOLE, OR DETACHABLE
16 STOCK THAT IS OTHERWISE FOLDABLE OR ADJUSTABLE IN A MANNER THAT
17 OPERATES TO REDUCE THE LENGTH, SIZE, OR ANY OTHER DIMENSION, OR
18 OTHERWISE ENHANCES THE ABILITY TO CONCEAL THE WEAPON;
19 (D) A FLASH SUPPRESSOR;
20 (E) A FUNCTIONAL GRENADE LAUNCHER;
21 (F) A SHROUD ATTACHED TO THE BARREL, OR THAT PARTIALLY OR
22 COMPLETELY ENCIRCLES THE BARREL, ALLOWING THE BEARER TO HOLD
23 THE FIREARM WITH THE NON-TRIGGER HAND WITHOUT BEING BURNED, BUT
24 EXCLUDING A SLIDE THAT ENCLOSES THE BARREL; OR
25 (G) A THREADED BARREL;
26 (II) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT HAS A FIXED LARGE-CAPACITY
27 MAGAZINE, AS DEFINED IN SECTION 18-12-301;
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1 (III) A .50 CALIBER RIFLE;
2 (IV) A SEMIAUTOMATIC PISTOL THAT HAS THE CAPACITY TO
3 ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE, OR THAT MAY BE READILY MODIFIED
4 TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE, IF THE SEMIAUTOMATIC PISTOL HAS
5 ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING FEATURES:
6 (A) A THREADED BARREL;
7 (B) A SECOND PISTOL GRIP OR ADDITIONAL FEATURE CAPABLE OF
8 FUNCTIONING AS A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE
9 NON-TRIGGER HAND;
10 (C) A SHROUD ATTACHED TO THE BARREL, OR THAT PARTIALLY OR
11 COMPLETELY ENCIRCLES THE BARREL, ALLOWING THE BEARER TO HOLD
12 THE FIREARM WITH THE NON-TRIGGER HAND WITHOUT BEING BURNED, BUT
13 EXCLUDING A SLIDE THAT ENCLOSES THE BARREL;
14 (D) A FLASH SUPPRESSOR;
15 (E) THE CAPACITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE
16 AMMUNITION-FEEDING DEVICE AT SOME LOCATION OUTSIDE OF THE PISTOL
17 GRIP;
18 (F) A MANUFACTURED WEIGHT OF FIFTY OUNCES OR MORE WHEN
19 UNLOADED; OR
20 (G) A BUFFER TUBE, ARM BRACE, OR OTHER PART THAT
21 PROTRUDES HORIZONTALLY BEHIND THE PISTOL GRIP;
22 (V) A SEMIAUTOMATIC PISTOL THAT HAS A FIXED
23 LARGE-CAPACITY MAGAZINE, AS DEFINED IN SECTION 18-12-301;
24 (VI) A SHOTGUN WITH A REVOLVING CYLINDER;
25 (VII) A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN THAT HAS ONE OR MORE OF THE
26 FOLLOWING FEATURES:
27 (A) A PISTOL GRIP;
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1 (B) ANY FEATURE CAPABLE OF FUNCTIONING AS A PROTRUDING
2 GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE NON-TRIGGER HAND;
3 (C) A FOLDING, TELESCOPING, OR THUMBHOLE STOCK;
4 (D) A FUNCTIONAL GRENADE LAUNCHER;
5 (E) A FIXED LARGE-CAPACITY MAGAZINE, AS DEFINED IN SECTION
6 18-12-301; OR
7 (F) THE CAPACITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE;
8 (VIII) A SEMIAUTOMATIC FIREARM THAT HAS THE CAPACITY TO
9 ACCEPT A BELT AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE;
10 (IX) A SEMIAUTOMATIC FIREARM THAT HAS BEEN MODIFIED TO BE
11 OPERABLE AS AN ASSAULT WEAPON AS DEFINED IN THIS SUBSECTION (2);
12 OR
13 (X) ANY PART OR COMBINATION OF PARTS DESIGNED OR INTENDED
14 TO CONVERT A FIREARM INTO AN ASSAULT WEAPON AS DEFINED IN THIS
15 SUBSECTION (2), INCLUDING A RAPID-FIRE TRIGGER ACTIVATOR OR ANY
16 COMBINATION OF PARTS FROM WHICH AN ASSAULT WEAPON MAY BE
17 READILY ASSEMBLED IF THOSE PARTS ARE IN THE POSSESSION OR UNDER
18 THE CONTROL OF THE SAME PERSON.
19 (b) "ASSAULT WEAPON" DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY FIREARM THAT
20 HAS BEEN MADE PERMANENTLY INOPERABLE; AN ANTIQUE FIREARM
21 MANUFACTURED BEFORE 1899; A REPLICA OF AN ANTIQUE FIREARM; A
22 FIREARM THAT IS MANUALLY OPERATED BY BOLT, PUMP, LEVER, SLIDE
23 ACTION, UNLESS THE FIREARM IS A SHOTGUN WITH A REVOLVING
24 CYLINDER; OR A FIREARM THAT CAN ONLY FIRE RIMFIRE AMMUNITION.
25 (3) "DETACHABLE MAGAZINE" MEANS AN AMMUNITION-FEEDING
26 DEVICE THAT MAY BE REMOVED FROM A FIREARM WITHOUT DISASSEMBLY
27 OF THE FIREARM ACTION, INCLUDING AN AMMUNITION-FEEDING DEVICE
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THAT MAY BE READILY 1 REMOVED FROM A FIREARM WITH THE USE OF A
2 BULLET, CARTRIDGE, ACCESSORY, OR OTHER TOOL, OR ANY OTHER OBJECT
3 THAT FUNCTIONS AS A TOOL.
4 (4) "FIREARM" HAS THE SAME MEANING AS SET FORTH IN SECTION
5 18-1-901.
6 (5) "FIXED MAGAZINE" MEANS AN AMMUNITION-FEEDING DEVICE
7 THAT IS PERMANENTLY ATTACHED TO A FIREARM, OR CONTAINED IN AND
8 NOT REMOVABLE FROM A FIREARM, OR THAT IS OTHERWISE NOT A
9 DETACHABLE MAGAZINE. "FIXED MAGAZINE" DOES NOT INCLUDE AN
10 ATTACHED TUBULAR DEVICE DESIGNED TO ACCEPT, AND CAPABLE OF
11 OPERATING ONLY WITH, .22 CALIBER RIMFIRE AMMUNITION.
12 (6) "GUN SHOW VENDOR" MEANS ANY PERSON WHO EXHIBITS,
13 SELLS, OFFERS FOR SALE, TRANSFERS, OR EXCHANGES ANY FIREARM,
14 INCLUDING AN ASSAULT WEAPON, AT A GUN SHOW, REGARDLESS OF
15 WHETHER THE PERSON ARRANGES WITH A GUN SHOW PROMOTER FOR A
16 FIXED LOCATION FROM WHICH TO EXHIBIT, SELL, OFFER FOR SALE,
17 TRANSFER, OR EXCHANGE ANY FIREARM, INCLUDING AN ASSAULT WEAPON.
18 (7) "LICENSED GUN DEALER" OR "LICENSED FIREARMS DEALER"
19 MEANS ANY PERSON WHO IS A LICENSED IMPORTER, LICENSED
20 MANUFACTURER, OR DEALER WHO IS LICENSED PURSUANT TO 18 U.S.C.
21 SEC. 923, AS AMENDED, AS A FEDERALLY LICENSED FIREARMS DEALER.
22 (8) "PEACE OFFICER" HAS THE SAME MEANING AS SET FORTH IN
23 SECTION 16-2.5-101.
24 (9) "RAPID-FIRE TRIGGER ACTIVATOR" MEANS:
25 (a) ANY MANUAL, POWER-DRIVEN, OR ELECTRONIC DEVICE THAT
26 IS DESIGNED AND FUNCTIONS TO INCREASE THE RATE OF FIRE OF A
27 SEMIAUTOMATIC FIREARM WHEN THE DEVICE IS ATTACHED TO THE
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1 FIREARM;
2 (b) ANY PART OF A SEMIAUTOMATIC FIREARM OR COMBINATION OF
3 PARTS THAT IS DESIGNED AND FUNCTIONS TO INCREASE THE RATE OF FIRE
4 OF A SEMIAUTOMATIC FIREARM BY ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR THE
5 OPERATOR OF THE FIREARM TO MAKE A SEPARATE MOVEMENT FOR EACH
6 INDIVIDUAL FUNCTION OF THE TRIGGER; OR
7 (c) ANY OTHER DEVICE, PART, OR COMBINATION OF PARTS THAT IS
8 DESIGNED AND FUNCTIONS TO SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASE THE RATE OF
9 FIRE OF A SEMIAUTOMATIC FIREARM ABOVE THE STANDARD RATE OF FIRE
10 FOR A SEMIAUTOMATIC FIREARM THAT IS NOT EQUIPPED WITH THAT
11 DEVICE, PART, OR COMBINATION OF PARTS.
12 18-12-603. Unlawful manufacture, import, purchase, sale, and
13 transfer of ownership of assault weapons prohibited - unlawful
14 possession of rapid-fire trigger activators - exemptions.
15 (1) (a) EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED IN SUBSECTION (2) OF THIS
16 SECTION, A PERSON COMMITS THE CRIME OF UNLAWFULLY
17 MANUFACTURING, IMPORTING, PURCHASING, SELLING, OR TRANSFERRING
18 OWNERSHIP OF AN ASSAULT WEAPON, INCLUDING A RAPID-FIRE TRIGGER
19 ACTIVATOR, IF THE PERSON KNOWINGLY MANUFACTURES, IMPORTS,
20 PURCHASES, SELLS, OFFERS TO SELL, OR TRANSFERS OWNERSHIP OF, OR
21 KNOWINGLY CAUSES THE MANUFACTURE, IMPORTATION, PURCHASE, SALE,
22 OR TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP OF, AN ASSAULT WEAPON, INCLUDING A
23 RAPID-FIRE TRIGGER ACTIVATOR.
24 (b) A PERSON COMMITS THE CRIME OF UNLAWFULLY POSSESSING
25 A RAPID-FIRE TRIGGER ACTIVATOR IF THE PERSON KNOWINGLY POSSESSES
26 A RAPID-FIRE TRIGGER ACTIVATOR.
27 (2) THE PROHIBITION DESCRIBED IN THIS SECTION DOES NOT APPLY
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1 TO:
2 (a) A MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES, TO THE
3 EXTENT THAT SUCH PERSON IS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED TO ACQUIRE AN
4 ASSAULT WEAPON AND DOES SO WHILE ACTING WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE
5 PERSON'S DUTIES;
6 (b) THE MANUFACTURE, SALE, OR TRANSFER OF AN ASSAULT
7 WEAPON BY A LICENSED FIREARMS MANUFACTURER TO ANY BRANCH OF
8 THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES;
9 (c) THE TRANSFER OF AN ASSAULT WEAPON TO A LICENSED
10 FIREARMS DEALER OR GUNSMITH FOR THE PURPOSES OF MAINTENANCE,
11 REPAIR, OR MODIFICATION, AND THE SUBSEQUENT RETURN OF THE
12 ASSAULT WEAPON TO THE LAWFUL OWNER;
13 (d) ANY FEDERAL, STATE, OR LOCAL HISTORICAL SOCIETY,
14 MUSEUM, OR INSTITUTIONAL COLLECTION THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC,
15 PROVIDED THAT THE ASSAULT WEAPON IS SECURELY HOUSED AND
16 UNLOADED;
17 (e) A FORENSIC LABORATORY, OR ANY AUTHORIZED AGENT OR
18 EMPLOYEE OF THE LABORATORY, FOR USE EXCLUSIVELY IN THE COURSE
19 AND SCOPE OF AUTHORIZED ACTIVITIES;
20 (f) AN ENTITY THAT OPERATES AN ARMORED VEHICLE BUSINESS
21 AND AN AUTHORIZED EMPLOYEE OF SUCH ENTITY WHILE IN THE COURSE
22 AND SCOPE OF EMPLOYMENT;
23 (g) A LICENSED GUN DEALER WHO HAS REMAINING INVENTORY OF
24 ASSAULT WEAPONS ON OR AFTER JULY 1, 2023, AND SELLS OR TRANSFERS
25 THE REMAINING INVENTORY ONLY TO A NON-COLORADO RESIDENT AND
26 THE SALE OR TRANSFER TAKES PLACE OUT-OF-STATE. A SALE OR
27 TRANSFER OF INVENTORY REMAINING ON OR AFTER JULY 1, 2023, TO A
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COLORADO RESIDENT OR IN THIS STATE 1 IS A VIOLATION OF THIS SECTION.
2 (h) A PEACE OFFICER; AND
3 (i) AN ENTITY THAT EMPLOYS PEACE OFFICERS FOR USE BY THAT
4 AGENCY OR ITS EMPLOYEES.
5 18-12-604. Penalties - criminal - civil. (1) A PERSON WHO
6 VIOLATES SECTION 18-12-603 ON OR AFTER JULY 1, 2023, COMMITS A
7 CLASS 2 MISDEMEANOR.
8 (2) IN ADDITION TO THE CRIMINAL PENALTIES DESCRIBED IN
9 SUBSECTION (1) OF THIS SECTION, A PERSON WHO VIOLATES SECTION
10 18-12-603 SHALL BE ASSESSED A CIVIL PENALTY AS FOLLOWS:
11 (a) FOR VIOLATIONS OCCURRING BETWEEN JULY 1, 2023, AND
12 DECEMBER 31, 2024, THE PERSON SHALL BE ASSESSED A ONE THOUSAND
13 DOLLAR CIVIL PENALTY FOR EACH VIOLATION; AND
14 (b) FOR VIOLATIONS OCCURRING ON OR AFTER JANUARY 1, 2025,
15 THE PERSON SHALL BE ASSESSED A FIVE THOUSAND DOLLAR CIVIL
16 PENALTY FOR EACH VIOLATION.
17 (3) A LICENSED GUN DEALER, LICENSED FIREARMS DEALER, GUN
18 SHOW VENDOR, OR PERSON ATTEMPTING TO SELL AN ASSAULT WEAPON ON
19 OR AFTER JULY 1, 2023, SHALL BE ASSESSED A CIVIL PENALTY IN THE
20 AMOUNT OF TWO HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE FIRST
21 ASSAULT WEAPON SOLD IN VIOLATION OF SECTION 18-12-603 AND FIVE
22 HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR EACH SUBSEQUENT VIOLATION.
23 SECTION 2. In Colorado Revised Statutes, 18-12-108.7, amend
24 (3) as follows:
25 18-12-108.7. Unlawfully providing or permitting a juvenile to
26 possess a handgun - penalty - unlawfully providing a firearm other
27 than a handgun to a juvenile - penalty. (3) With regard to firearms
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1 other than handguns, no INCLUDING ASSAULT WEAPONS, AS DEFINED IN
2 SECTION 18-12-602, A person shall NOT sell, rent, or transfer ownership
3 or allow unsupervised possession of a firearm, INCLUDING AN ASSAULT
4 WEAPON AS PROHIBITED PURSUANT TO PART 6 OF THIS ARTICLE 12, with
5 or without remuneration to any juvenile without the consent of the
6 juvenile's parent or legal guardian. Unlawfully providing a firearm,
7 INCLUDING AN ASSAULT WEAPON, AS DEFINED IN SECTION 18-12-602, other
8 than a handgun to a juvenile in violation of this subsection (3) is a class
9 1 misdemeanor.
10 SECTION 3. Effective date. This act takes effect upon passage.
11 SECTION 4. Safety clause. The general assembly hereby finds,
12 determines, and declares that this act is necessary for the immediate
13 preservation of the public peace, health, or safety.
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[DDT951]

As this was introduced by Fields...

Maybe we need to post her rap sheet so everyone remembers what kind of criminal we are dealing with.

[rondog]

As this was introduced by Fields...

Maybe we need to post her rap sheet so everyone remembers what kind of criminal we are dealing with.

Like!

[rondog]

93171

[DDT951]

Here is a philosophical question.


Why is someone like Fields who can’t own a gun allowed to introduce and/or vote on any legislation to do with guns?

[DDT951]

93171

Yes democracy would be when two people vote to violate one person…

[BPTactical]

Make no mistake and have no delusions people.

This will pass the legislature.
Polis will sign it.

Your phone calls, e mails and letters will do nothing.
We saw what our elected officials thought of us in 2012 & 2013.
Ten years later they are more determined, they are a juggernaut and there is nothing to stop them.
Dudley will do nothing but reap the financial gain of those fools that send him money.
NRA is nowhere to be found.
GOA realizes Colorado is a lost cause.

Colorado is set to become more anti firearm than CA and NY.

[DDT951]

And it is “takes effect upon passage”

Sure a lawsuit will be filed. But courts I doubt will hear before passage. So unlike Oregon where there was time for courts to stop it before implementation, this one starts until courts order an injunction.

It is likely that courts will stop it (Federal courts have already had injunctions against the BoCo cities and BoCo).

But how much damage is done “upon passage”

Ask yourself this. Even if courts step in 2 or 4 weeks later.. how much damage is done to the small gun shops? How many will survive the court waiting times? How many small gun shop owners are going to risk their money buying inventory!

Basically the goal is to kill off most gun stores.. and it will happen quickly.

[BPTactical]

And it is “takes effect upon passage”

Sure a lawsuit will be filed. But courts I doubt will hear before passage. So unlike Oregon where there was time for courts to stop it before implementation, this one starts until courts order an injunction.

It is likely that courts will stop it (Federal courts have already had injunctions against the BoCo cities and BoCo).

But how much damage is done “upon passage”

Ask yourself this. Even if courts step in 2 or 4 weeks later.. how much damage is done to the small gun shops? How many will survive the court waiting times? How many small gun shop owners are going to risk their money buying inventory!

Basically the goal is to kill off most gun stores.. and it will happen quickly.



You can’t put the Genie back in the bottle.

[DDT951]

How many noticed this..

13 (X) ANY PART OR COMBINATION OF PARTS DESIGNED OR INTENDED
14 TO CONVERT A FIREARM INTO AN ASSAULT WEAPON AS DEFINED IN THIS
15 SUBSECTION (2), INCLUDING A RAPID-FIRE TRIGGER ACTIVATOR OR ANY
16 COMBINATION OF PARTS FROM WHICH AN ASSAULT WEAPON MAY BE
17 READILY ASSEMBLED IF THOSE PARTS ARE IN THE POSSESSION OR UNDER
18 THE CONTROL OF THE SAME PERSON.

SO that means these parts are also "assault weapons" per this bill and cannot be sold:

12 (A) A PISTOL GRIP;
13 (B) ANY FEATURE CAPABLE OF FUNCTIONING AS A PROTRUDING
14 GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE NON-TRIGGER HAND;
15 (C) A FOLDING, TELESCOPING, THUMBHOLE, OR DETACHABLE
16 STOCK THAT IS OTHERWISE FOLDABLE OR ADJUSTABLE IN A MANNER THAT
17 OPERATES TO REDUCE THE LENGTH, SIZE, OR ANY OTHER DIMENSION, OR
18 OTHERWISE ENHANCES THE ABILITY TO CONCEAL THE WEAPON;
19 (D) A FLASH SUPPRESSOR;
20 (E) A FUNCTIONAL GRENADE LAUNCHER;
21 (F) A SHROUD ATTACHED TO THE BARREL, OR THAT PARTIALLY OR
22 COMPLETELY ENCIRCLES THE BARREL, ALLOWING THE BEARER TO HOLD
23 THE FIREARM WITH THE NON-TRIGGER HAND WITHOUT BEING BURNED, BUT
24 EXCLUDING A SLIDE THAT ENCLOSES THE BARREL; OR
25 (G) A THREADED BARREL


Of course to try and not get courts too angry.. they took "possession" out from the original draft bill.

But notice they left "possession" into the parts section....

[Bailey Guns]

I find it ironic they mention mass shootings, specifically mentioning Columbine (with others), and what a massive threat these shootings are to the public. Wonder why there was no mention that the Columbine shooting occurred when there was a federal AWB in effect?

Yeah...CO is on the fast track to becoming the next liberal-dominated shit-hole like CA, OR, WA and many east coast states. Actually, it's probably already there...

[eddiememphis]

https://freestatecolorado.com/defend-your-gun-rights-advanced/

Article with ways to fight it.

Not all are are practical but if we each try a little harder, it may help.

[eddiememphis]

This will pass easily and Polis will sign it into law. It will then make its way through the court system to determine constitutionality.

The other "lesser" bills- waiting period, raise age of purchase, etc.- will also pass.

Then watch for the leftist to rewrite the criteria for concealed carry. Likely a huge fee increase and high reapplication fees. The necessity for classroom learning will be greatly increased from 4 hours to 16, probably necessary at every renewal. The duration of permit will be cut from 5 years to 2 or 3.

This will place a burden on many permit holders in the hope that most will stop carrying (and endangering honest citizens) because the permitting process is too expensive and time consuming.

The next step would be the need for a license to possess in your own home.

This may sound absurd and unlikely to pass in the next two years but look how fast they have moved on the current legislation. When the "assault weapons" ban passes, it will take effect in June.

[DDT951]

When the "assault weapons" ban passes, it will take effect in June.

No. I wont.

SECTION 3. Effective date. This act takes effect upon passage.
SECTION 4. Safety clause. The general assembly hereby finds, determines, and declares that this act is necessary for the immediate preservation of the public peace, health, or safety


This one isnt June. They are saying this is an "emergency" and doesn't have the normal implementation time.

That is why gun stores will be out of business before courts intervene. The law will go into effect, then it can be challenged. In the mean time gun stores are SOL with selling. How many can last a few weeks or months without selling firearms?

[bellavite1]

As we used to say:
"DO IT!
DO IT NOW!
There could be a law against it tomorrow!"

And sure enough...

[hollohas]

Where does this fall when it comes to parts? LPKs, handguards, grips, triggers, barrels, etc? Think online stores will still ship to CO?

[eddiememphis]

https://kdvr.com/news/politics/colorado-politics-news/assault-weapons-ban-colorado-bill-introduced-epps-fields/

It’s written to take effect upon passage, with penalties to kick in after July 1.

https://www.thecentersquare.com/colorado/article_c32637fc-babf-11ed-b4bf-d74b9ed5fc78.html

Violating the law, which would take effect on July 1, 2023, would be a class 2 misdemeanor, according to the bill’s text. The proposed ban exempts individuals in the military and law enforcement.

[eddiememphis]

Where does this fall when it comes to parts? LPKs, handguards, grips, triggers, barrels, etc? Think online stores will still ship to CO?

Nope. As evidenced by other threads that document online dealers not shipping to specific zip codes.

[ray1970]

That is why gun stores will be out of business before courts intervene. The law will go into effect, then it can be challenged. In the mean time gun stores are SOL with selling. How many can last a few weeks or months without selling firearms?

Not that I agree with this garbage or the people who are sticking it to us without the courtesy of lube, but this doesn?t mean gun stores can?t sell firearms. It just means they can?t sell certain, specific firearms.

[.455_Hunter]

... but this doesn't mean gun stores can't sell firearms. It just means they can't sell certain, specific firearms.


The Gun Room in Lakewood or Colorado Gunsport in Boulder = Not Catastrophic

Westminster Arms or Warrior Tactical in Longmont= Catastrophic

[DDT951]

Not that I agree with this garbage or the people who are sticking it to us without the courtesy of lube, but this doesn?t mean gun stores can?t sell firearms. It just means they can?t sell certain, specific firearms.

what you are saying is someone true but misleading.

Scheels, cabellas, sportsman?s have a high percentage of ?hunting rifles?

Now go into the small shops. Basically most of their inventory (and customers) are pistols and modern sporting weapons. They don?t really generally sell to the ?Hunter crowd?

You will see most of these gone fast.

The national chains. They will ship inventory out of state and t-shirt and candy sales will make up for the lack of MSR sales?

[.455_Hunter]

Interesting...

https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/next/next-with-kyle-clark/colorado-democrats-assault-weapons-ban-uphill-climb-polis/73-a334f575-827c-498f-92a4-54f2b36173c6



Colorado Democrats pushing for assault weapons ban face uphill climb to Polis' desk

The measure may not have enough support from Democrats.

DENVER — The long-awaited bill to ban so-called "assault weapons" surfaced in the House late Friday afternoon — and has already lost a key supporter, raising questions about the viability of its path to the governor's desk.

Rep. Andrew Boesenecker, D-Fort Collins, was listed as a first prime sponsor in previous drafts, but his name is no longer on House Bill 1230, which is sponsored by Rep. Elisabeth Epps, D-Denver and Sen. Rhonda Fields, D-Aurora.

The measure may not have enough support from Democrats, including by some leaders on this issue, and the measure is in danger of dividing the Democratic Gun Violence Prevention Caucus.


Thoughts?

[eddiememphis]

https://www.coloradopolitics.com/legislature/colorado-democrats-pushing-for-assault-weapons-ban-face-uphill-climb-to-polis-desk/article_48bead5e-bc3c-11ed-89a7-db94b37ed2cc.html

I read something similar yesterday.

Following his State of the State address last January, Gov. Jared Polis demurred when asked what he thought about a draft on an "assault weapons" ban that had been circulating for several weeks.

"We specifically, looking at the data, believe that extreme risk protection orders can work better," the governor said.

Asked to contrast that stance with a 2018 bill he co-sponsored while in Congress titled "Assault Weapons Ban of 2018," Polis said federal action on guns is needed first, noting there is a limit to what states can do.

[kidicarus13]

If passed, individual violators could be fined $1,000 for each violation between July 1, 2023, and December 31, 2024, and $5,000 for each violation thereafter. Licensed gun dealers would face civil penalties of $250,000 for the first violation and $500,000 for the second violation.

[eddiememphis]

https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com/2023/03/01/kopel-colorado-bill-forcing-delay-of-firearms-acquisition-on-shaky-constitutional-ground/

Dave Kopel's take on the waiting period.
As usual, a very thorough and well reasoned argument.

[hollohas]

Interesting...

https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/next/next-with-kyle-clark/colorado-democrats-assault-weapons-ban-uphill-climb-polis/73-a334f575-827c-498f-92a4-54f2b36173c6





Thoughts?Hog wash. He dropped his name to throw people off and potentially reduce any heat he gets. Typical politician. Be a key person that gets the ball rolling then act like he's not involved once that ball is quickly rolling downhill with no stops.

And the media saying it may not have enough support is to lower the heat too. Make people have false hope so they don't get so fired up, then it passes with full support anyway. "Whoops, sorry we threw you all into thinking you had a chance so you didn't show up and make a stink. Oh well, too late"

[One Shot]

Would this also ban things like suppressors? I agree with hollohas, if that bill gets to his desk, he's signing it.

[Rooskibar03]

Where does this fall when it comes to parts? LPKs, handguards, grips, triggers, barrels, etc? Think online stores will still ship to CO?

I'll be happy to set up a drop ship arrangement from AZ for ya. (non FFL items of course)

[hollohas]

^This is why their bill won't do anything. Everybody will still get their parts elsewhere.

[Rucker61]

"3 (b) STATISTICS SHOW THAT IN EACH OF THE YEARS 2019, 2020,
4 2021, AND 2022, THERE WAS, ON AVERAGE, MORE THAN ONE MASS
5 SHOOTING PER DAY;"

The vast majority of which were committed with handguns by shooters not legally allowed to possess firearms.


"6 (c) BETWEEN 2009 AND 2020, THE FIVE DEADLIEST MASS
7 SHOOTING INCIDENTS IN THE UNITED STATES ALL INVOLVED THE USE OF
8 ASSAULT WEAPONS OR HIGH-CAPACITY MAGAZINES. THESE MASS
9 SHOOTINGS OCCURRED IN LAS VEGAS, NEVADA; ORLANDO, FLORIDA;
10 NEWTOWN, CONNECTICUT; SUTHERLAND SPRINGS, TEXAS; AND EL PASO,
11 TEXAS."

Noteworthy that the dates picked here start in 2009, conveniently allowing them to ignore the 2007 Virginia Tech shooting which would be at #3, and should jump the Pulse shooting for deaths per hour. That shooting was committed with firearms and magazines that will still be legal to purchase if this bill passes.

[mb504]

^This is why their bill won't do anything. Everybody will still get their parts elsewhere.

It increases the barrier to entry and can decrease the number of new people that get involved in shooting. A slow way to kill the culture.

[sbgixxer]

It increases the barrier to entry and can decrease the number of new people that get involved in shooting. A slow way to kill the culture.

That's it. Plus it paves the way for the next steps... just like California. Law abiding one day and with the stroke of a pen, felon the next with no action of your own.

[WETWRKS]

So...no exception for gun stores that supply police?


Great! Let's see how that works out.

[MED]

Interesting...

https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/next/next-with-kyle-clark/colorado-democrats-assault-weapons-ban-uphill-climb-polis/73-a334f575-827c-498f-92a4-54f2b36173c6





Thoughts?

The people ruling over this state want to ban all firearms, and repeal the second amendment. It is all calculated. They will decide how much blow back they want in one year. They may do some of the agenda this year and wait a couple years or they may just do it all at once. Also, they will take into consideration the legal challenges, costs of a federal supreme court challenge, etc. Anyhow, we know their end game....just how much of it they do this year is yet to be determined. They have the votes to do whatever they want, and there is no way to vote them out. The Democrat (marxist) ruling party leadership in this state will decide how much and when.

[palepainter]

Thank you Ginsue for spelling it all out here, I’m not a constant contributor, but have consistently come here for information since 2009. Thanks fellas. This legislation is really disappointing, but not surprising.

[O2HeN2]

The only joy I find in this bill is that it puts Polis in a horrible position.

Sign it and pretty much dash his hopes for the presidency.

or

Don't sign it and dash his hopes for doing anything further in the Democratic party.

Not signing it is his only move - letting it become law without his signature and then doing a lot of dancing when the issue comes up.

Ah, schadenfreude.

O2

[sbgixxer]

Would signing it hurt his presidential hopes? He's doing something to "prevent mass shootings". Then again, maybe living in Eastern California has skewed my idea of what real people want.

[One Shot]

When do they vote on it?

[MED]

The only joy I find in this bill is that it puts Polis in a horrible position.

Sign it and pretty much dash his hopes for the presidency.

or

Don't sign it and dash his hopes for doing anything further in the Democratic party.

Not signing it is his only move - letting it become law without his signature and then doing a lot of dancing when the issue comes up.

Ah, schadenfreude.

O2

The "winner" of the last presidential "election" campaigned on bans and has advocated for bans since taking control of the office. I don't think it really matters what Polis says. He will either be selected or he won't. He is more likable than Kamala and fits their woke image; whatever favors and back room deals transpire will determine the next one.

[eddiememphis]

https://omny.fm/shows/the-george-show/brauchler-3-9-23-9am?in_playlist=podcast

Caldara and Kopel on the pending legislation.

[DDT951]

The "winner" of the last presidential "election" campaigned on bans and has advocated for bans since taking control of the office. I don't think it really matters what Polis says. He will either be selected or he won't. He is more likable than Kamala and fits their woke image; whatever favors and back room deals transpire will determine the next one.

So what I am understanding is the entry into the backroom might be through the backdoor?

[hollohas]

The "winner" of the last presidential "election" campaigned on bans and has advocated for bans since taking control of the office. I don't think it really matters what Polis says. He will either be selected or he won't. He is more likable than Kamala and fits their woke image; whatever favors and back room deals transpire will determine the next one.Exactly. The candidate doesn't matter anymore.

This vegetable won...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230311/adc7baac530eadb88e69ac8a1bd61167.jpg

[TEAMRICO]

That’s the biggest turd emoji I have ever seen!

[rtr]

What happens to firearms covered in this bill when the owner dies?

What happens in regards to same if owner wants to sell them to someone outside Colorado?

What happens if you want to file a Form 1 to SBR a firearm covered by this bill after it passes?

What happens if you own an NFA firearm that also is regulated by this bill and you want to sell it to someone out of state?

[DDT951]

What happens to firearms covered in this bill when the owner dies?

What happens in regards to same if owner wants to sell them to someone outside Colorado?

What happens if you want to file a Form 1 to SBR a firearm covered by this bill after it passes?

What happens if you own an NFA firearm that also is regulated by this bill and you want to sell it to someone out of state?

First. The anti 2A crowd is interested about taking every gun you have. Even a single shot.

Death by a thousand cuts.

They do not care if you cannot have an NFA item. That is a bonus and closer to their goal.

That said, a form 1 does not transfer ownership of many firearms but it is manufacture so it is a very interesting question..

[MED]

What happens to firearms covered in this bill when the owner dies?

What happens in regards to same if owner wants to sell them to someone outside Colorado?

What happens if you want to file a Form 1 to SBR a firearm covered by this bill after it passes?

What happens if you own an NFA firearm that also is regulated by this bill and you want to sell it to someone out of state?

1. Depends on what you set up. I'm setting up a semi auto trust separate from my NFA trust so that the owner will be the trust before the law goes into effect. After that, any trustee can take them because ownership hasn't changed and there is no transfer between trustees. I'm putting eligible family members as trustees in my trust that I'm still allowed to private transfer as gifts. After the law goes into effect, this will not be possible to set up. If you don't have a trust, they would have to be sold through an FFL out of state or transferred to a designee in your will who is out of state.

2. You can sell outside of CO as long as you go through an FFL because you're selling across state lines.

3. This should work as long as there is no transfer. It will be too late to put it in a trust after the bill becomes law. However, this one could get kind of murky because I don't know how they are going to go about it until it happens. It should go through in theory, but we'll see because they could argue it is making a new firearm that is banned. I think this is the biggest question mark of the questions you asked.

4. You can sell outside of CO as long as you go through an FFL because you're selling across state lines. The FFL will have to follow all NFA laws for the transfer.

[kidicarus13]

"I'm putting eligible family members as trustees in my trust that I'm still allowed to private transfer as gifts."

I've never heard that you can transfer personal firearms as gifts into your trust without a BGC. Please educate me.

A couple of exceptions listed under C.R.S. 18-12-112:

(b)

A transfer that is a bona fide gift or loan between immediate family members, which are limited to spouses, parents, children, siblings, grandparents, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, first cousins, aunts, and uncles;

(c)

A transfer that occurs by operation of law or because of the death of a person for whom the prospective transferor is an executor or administrator of an estate or a trustee of a trust created in a will;

[rtr]

1. Depends on what you set up. I'm setting up a semi auto trust separate from my NFA trust so that the owner will be the trust before the law goes into effect. After that, any trustee can take them because ownership hasn't changed and there is no transfer between trustees. I'm putting eligible family members as trustees in my trust that I'm still allowed to private transfer as gifts. After the law goes into effect, this will not be possible to set up. If you don't have a trust, they would have to be sold through an FFL out of state or transferred to a designee in your will who is out of state.

2. You can sell outside of CO as long as you go through an FFL because you're selling across state lines.

3. This should work as long as there is no transfer. It will be too late to put it in a trust after the bill becomes law. However, this one could get kind of murky because I don't know how they are going to go about it until it happens. It should go through in theory, but we'll see because they could argue it is making a new firearm that is banned. I think this is the biggest question mark of the questions you asked.

4. You can sell outside of CO as long as you go through an FFL because you're selling across state lines. The FFL will have to follow all NFA laws for the transfer.

Can you recommend an attorney to setup a trust?

[MED]

"I'm putting eligible family members as trustees in my trust that I'm still allowed to private transfer as gifts."

I've never heard that you can transfer personal firearms as gifts into your trust without a BGC. Please educate me.

A couple of exceptions listed under C.R.S. 18-12-112:

(b)

A transfer that is a bona fide gift or loan between immediate family members, which are limited to spouses, parents, children, siblings, grandparents, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, first cousins, aunts, and uncles;

(c)

A transfer that occurs by operation of law or because of the death of a person for whom the prospective transferor is an executor or administrator of an estate or a trustee of a trust created in a will;

It is my understanding that as long as I don't appoint someone as a trustee that doesn't fit in CRS 18-12-112 section (b) that you quoted, I can do that. I can also use the assignment to trust form for each item as long as I'm not violating state or federal law when doing so. NFA is a totally different animal, and I'm not addressing that here, which requires steps with the ATF. It would be in a person's best interest to consult an attorney before proceeding, which is what I'm in the process of doing.

Edit: "I've never heard that you can transfer personal firearms as gifts into your trust without a BGC. Please educate me." You don't transfer to the trust; it's an assignment of property using an Assignment form you should get with your trust. Again....totally different process for NFA items.

[MED]

Can you recommend an attorney to setup a trust?

I'm in the process of finding somebody new since the person who did my NFA Trust isn't doing it anymore.

[hollohas]

Would you have to worry about Colorado's private party transfer laws at all if your trust with bonafide family member beneficiaries is formed in another state? Say if the firearms are currently stored in Colorado but the trust is formed in another state where a beneficiary resides?

[MED]

Would you have to worry about Colorado's private party transfer laws at all if your trust with bonafide family member beneficiaries is formed in another state? Say if the firearms are currently stored in Colorado but the trust is formed in another state where a beneficiary resides?

This is definitely an attorney question.

[Eric P]

Do migrants to Colorado have to leave thier assault riffles behind when they move here?

[MED]

Do migrants to Colorado have to leave thier assault riffles behind when they move here?

As of right now, it looks as though all possession and proof of ownership language is removed except for certain triggers and rapid fire devices. However, that can change in the legislative process.

[battlemidget]

As of right now, it looks as though all possession and proof of ownership language is removed except for certain triggers and rapid fire devices. However, that can change in the legislative process.

Are triggers with 'standard' designs, like a Geissele SDwhatever singlestage, considered in the aforementioned groups?

[bellavite1]

Last draft I read "rapid fire activators" were banned outright with no grandfathering.
Has that changed?
Could anyone post a link to the latest version?

[MED]

Are triggers with 'standard' designs, like a Geissele SDwhatever singlestage, considered in the aforementioned groups? You'll have to look at part c of the Rapid Fire Trigger Activator definition to determine that; it is horribly vague, and open to interpretation. Does it mean that any trigger other than the trigger that comes with the firearms, which is what if it was a stripped receiver? Does it mean things like force reset or binary triggers? It is horribly written, and retailers might determine that they will not ship aftermarket triggers to CO even if they meet the definition of a semi-auto trigger in accordance with federal law. It uses words like parts or combination of parts that substantially increase the rate of fire....so what is substantially defined as? A semi-auto trigger is a semi auto trigger regardless of how efficient it is, but they are trying to put that on a scale using words like substantially increases. Binary and FRT are definitely out. Things like geissele SSA or Larue MBT should be fine, but they may not be shipped here if you order them.

[MED]

Last draft I read "rapid fire activators" were banned outright with no grandfathering.
Has that changed?
Could anyone post a link to the latest version?

It's still just Introduced, your can view everything about the bill here including the latest amended as it goes through the process: https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb23-1230

and yes they are banned as it stands now.

[buffalobo]

Last draft I read "rapid fire activators" were banned outright with no grandfathering.
Has that changed?
Could anyone post a link to the latest version?Are they gonna ban my thumb and belt loop?

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

[3beansalad]

I'm in the process of finding somebody new since the person who did my NFA Trust isn't doing it anymore.

I had a very nice conversation with a well regarded trust attorney in Golden (if you know, you know,) about a trust. He raised several concerns for me. Would a revocable trust survive my lifetime? Would an irrevocable one as well? The cost difference between the two is dramatic, and if neither protect firearms for future generations what's the point.
Look forward to seeing what others discover. And hope we do it soon! I'm going to call another attorney that was recommended to me and see what his thoughts are.

[DDT951]

When I have purchased NFA items, the stamps have been issued in the trust name.

However when picking up the items and doing FFL transfer, the 4473 and CBI background were done on a person.

So it seems that the 4473 is separate from trust ownership.

The current pistol brace free registration, say that to register free through a trust, ownership by the trust must be shown to have ownership prior to the publishing date of rule.

[Bailey Guns]

What a convoluted pain in the ass...

[eddiememphis]

Are they gonna ban my thumb and belt loop?


If it will save one life? Yes.

[MED]

I had a very nice conversation with a well regarded trust attorney in Golden (if you know, you know,) about a trust. He raised several concerns for me. Would a revocable trust survive my lifetime? Would an irrevocable one as well? The cost difference between the two is dramatic, and if neither protect firearms for future generations what's the point.
Look forward to seeing what others discover. And hope we do it soon! I'm going to call another attorney that was recommended to me and see what his thoughts are.

I was talking to a friend who knows a lot more about this than I do. My NFA firearms trust that I currently have is a revocable trust. Upon my death, all property I assigned to the trust must be dispersed to my beneficiaries, and they will need to follow whatever state and federal laws are on the books for each item. He mentioned ATF Form 5, which is a one time free estate transfer for the beneficiary of an NFA item named in the trust. This obviously won't protect future generations as you mentioned. However, something like it will allow my immediate family members access to my non-NFA firearms while I'm alive, which is what I am looking into right now. The reason I'm looking at a second one is that the stupid rule to include all co-trustees for NFA purchases makes using a trust a PITA so I don't have any on it right now until I'm done buying my suppressors, and then I'll put my son on it. I want to be able to appoint co-trustees for all my semi-autos so I'm going to create a different one for that.

The irrevocable trust divests your ownership of the asset with those named on the trust and does protect property, but you lose control over the asset. This will protect the assets, and the trust does not dissolve upon your death. I have no idea what the rules are for putting firearms as assets into this type of trust, which is possibly different than the forms I fill out to put them into the one I have.

[MED]

What a convoluted pain in the ass...

That pretty much sums up all interaction with government; the only purpose government serves is to make people's lives difficult.

[brutal]

When I have purchased NFA items, the stamps have been issued in the trust name.

However when picking up the items and doing FFL transfer, the 4473 and CBI background were done on a person.

So it seems that the 4473 is separate from trust ownership.

The current pistol brace free registration, say that to register free through a trust, ownership by the trust must be shown to have ownership prior to the publishing date of rule.

My one and only pistol lower that used to have a brace (blade) was purchased on my NFA trust in 2015 and has been on the schedule A submitted to AFT multiple times since. I just need to drag the wife over to a kiosk for prints to submit my existing draft form1 on it for a free stamp. Already have many SBR, what's one more?

[GeorgeandSugar]

I am out of here again. Left. Came back and already looking to depart again.


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[kidicarus13]

Crime statistics related to failure to perform a BGC and large capacity magazines:

 Unlawful manufacture, import, purchase, sale, and transfer of assault weapons. This bill creates the new offense of unlawful manufacture, import, purchase, sale, and transfer of assault weapons, a class 2 misdemeanor. To form an estimate on the prevalence of this new offense, the fiscal note analyzed the existing offense of failure to perform a background check during a private firearm transfer as a comparable crime. From FY 2019-20 to FY 2021-22, 19 offenders have been sentenced and convicted for this existing offense, or about 7 per year. Of the persons convicted, 16 were male and 3 were female. Demographically, 14 were White, 4 were Black/African American, and 1 was Hispanic.

 Unlawful possession of rapid-trigger activators. This bill creates the new offense of unlawful possession of rapid-fire trigger activators, a class 2 misdemeanor. To form an estimate on the prevalence of this new offense, the fiscal note analyzed the existing offense of unlawful sale, transfer, or possession of a large-capacity magazine?not including charges for possession of a large-capacity magazine during commission of a crime?as a comparable crime. From FY 2019-20 to FY 2021-22, 80 offenders have been sentenced and convicted for this existing offense, or about 27 per year. Of the persons convicted, 76 were male, 3 were female, and 1 was unknown. Demographically, 45 were White, 31 were Black/African American, 1 was Hispanic, 2 were Asian, and 1 was unknown.

[brutal]

Crime statistics related to failure to perform a BGC and large capacity magazines:

 Unlawful manufacture, import, purchase, sale, and transfer of assault weapons. This bill creates the new offense of unlawful manufacture, import, purchase, sale, and transfer of assault weapons, a class 2 misdemeanor. To form an estimate on the prevalence of this new offense, the fiscal note analyzed the existing offense of failure to perform a background check during a private firearm transfer as a comparable crime. From FY 2019-20 to FY 2021-22, 19 offenders have been sentenced and convicted for this existing offense, or about 7 per year. Of the persons convicted, 16 were male and 3 were female. Demographically, 14 were White, 4 were Black/African American, and 1 was Hispanic.

 Unlawful possession of rapid-trigger activators. This bill creates the new offense of unlawful possession of rapid-fire trigger activators, a class 2 misdemeanor. To form an estimate on the prevalence of this new offense, the fiscal note analyzed the existing offense of unlawful sale, transfer, or possession of a large-capacity magazine?not including charges for possession of a large-capacity magazine during commission of a crime?as a comparable crime. From FY 2019-20 to FY 2021-22, 80 offenders have been sentenced and convicted for this existing offense, or about 27 per year. Of the persons convicted, 76 were male, 3 were female, and 1 was unknown. Demographically, 45 were White, 31 were Black/African American, 1 was Hispanic, 2 were Asian, and 1 was unknown.

So the dindu nuffins mag possession in Denver is the basis for banning binary/FRT. FFS.

[Great-Kazoo]

I am out of here again. Left. Came back and already looking to depart again.


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Back to AZ, or other options?

[DDT951]

News said this goes to committee tomorrow (Wednesday)

So gun ban coming soon…

[buffalobo]

To testify by Zoom or in person

https://www2.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2023A/commsumm.nsf/signIn.xsp

Judiciary committee

Wednesday 1:30pm Old State Library(2nd floor capital room 271)

Best to register ahead of time. If in person must be in meeting room when meeting starts.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

[DDT951]

To testify by Zoom or in person

https://www2.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2023A/commsumm.nsf/signIn.xsp

Judiciary committee

Wednesday 1:30pm Old State Library(2nd floor capital room 271)

Best to register ahead of time. If in person must be in meeting room when meeting starts.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

Not to be cynical, but what good will it do?

DEMS already ended debate with rules to move red flag forward...

Do you think you will change on DEM's mind who is voting?

[One Shot]

IF they pass this, when would it go into effect?

[kidicarus13]

IF they pass this, when would it go into effect?Buy now. Buy often.93384

[One Shot]

I know what i'll be doing all weekend then...

[mb504]

I know what i'll be doing all weekend then...

Well, I was going to buy a new truck, but couple Barretts might be more fun.

[Bowtie]

Saw this over on the other site.

"Originally Posted By Zak-Smith:
Just got this in text———

CO assault weapons ban hearing postponed.

Apparently 400 people were showing up testify in opposition.

Dem leadership pulled it for now. Expect to see them try and sneak it an again - like they did this time.

Good job everyone."

I checked the House and Senate schedule for tomorrow and did not see this bill listed. I don't know how else to confirm.

[buffalobo]

Not to be cynical, but what good will it do?

DEMS already ended debate with rules to move red flag forward...

Do you think you will change on DEM's mind who is voting?See post #79.

Maybe put a little effort into participation in the system instead of lamenting the foregone conclusion.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

[DDT951]

See post #79.

Maybe put a little effort into participation in the system instead of lamenting the foregone conclusion.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

Just like the other bills, they will do it in the middle of the night on a weekend...

[zulu01]

Supposedly this bill is getting pulled. Hopefully it's true.

https://kdvr.com/copov/state-democrats-pull-assault-weapons-ban-bill/

[ray1970]

Either way, I was planning on selling off some stuff soon. Might ought to get on the ball and get it done soon.

[.455_Hunter]

Meanwhile, the evisceration of firearms rights for young adults continues to advance. Remember- because Johnny Hood Rat does hood rat things, your family members ability to lawfully purchase and/or possess firearms is on the chopping block. Non-criminal teens who use firearms in a sane, moral and responsible manner will be no different than the thugs, incels, mental defectives, and other youthful degenerates who commit violent acts.

Thanks Democrats! [Mad]

[DDT951]

Supposedly this bill is getting pulled. Hopefully it's true.

https://kdvr.com/copov/state-democrats-pull-assault-weapons-ban-bill/

Damn. I was wrong.

Glad to be wrong (saves some money)

I for sure thought they had the votes to ram it through…

[zulu01]

Damn. I was wrong.

Glad to be wrong (saves some money)

I for sure thought they had the votes to ram it through…

From the start, Polis was being cagey on whether he would sing this bill so I think that helped to kill it. Question is how he feels on the 3 other bills that will make it to his desk. I know he supported making the red flag law stronger. Haven't heard anything on his thoughts for the others.

[MED]

Supposedly this bill is getting pulled. Hopefully it's true.

https://kdvr.com/copov/state-democrats-pull-assault-weapons-ban-bill/

All bills are required to have a hearing in CO. There will be a committee hearing eventually. If it passes out of committee, it can be postponed Indefinitely on the second reading calendar.

[Eric P]

Meanwhile, the evisceration of firearms rights for young adults continues to advance. Remember- because Johnny Hood Rat does hood rat things, your family members ability to lawfully purchase and/or possess firearms is on the chopping block. Non-criminal teens who use firearms in a sane, moral and responsible manner will be no different than the thugs, incels, mental defectives, and other youthful degenerates who commit violent acts.

Thanks Democrats! [Mad]

If someone under 21 can't be expected to make adult choices when it come to thier rights, how can you believe they are mature enough to vote? To die for the king? To transform? To do anything consequential without thier adults permission

[OneGuy67]

If someone under 21 can't be expected to make adult choices when it come to thier rights, how can you believe they are mature enough to vote? To die for the king? To transform? To do anything consequential without thier adults permission

When debating this topic with those who lean to the left, my argument has always been, our grandparents age was a different time. They married earlier, had families earlier, struggled with life earlier. They needed access to firearms to put food on the table for their family. Young adults today live with and are supported by their parents to a much older age (25 for insurance, etc) and are not as mentally or emotionally mature as generations past. Thus, if you wish to up the age that a person may buy a firearm (and earlier when they upped the drinking age), you will also need to up the age in which a person can vote, be responsible and independent for themselves, be considered an adult. The science they like to present is, that males especially, their brains do not fully develop until age 25 and their criminal actions should have this consideration in place for long term punishment. So, lets look at society en total and make all legal ages upwards of 25, since one constitutional right you don't like and want to up the age of ownership, all rights and the ages you get to exercise those rights should be reconsidered.

[3beansalad]

Supposedly this bill is getting pulled. Hopefully it's true.

https://kdvr.com/copov/state-democrats-pull-assault-weapons-ban-bill/

I have to believe it's only being pulled for now. Another LGBTUVWXYZ shooting incident and it will be back.

[newracer]

First committee hearing now scheduled for April 19, 2023 at 1:30 pm House Judiciary Committee.

[O2HeN2]

First committee hearing now scheduled for April 19, 2023 at 1:30 pm House Judiciary Committee.
Patriots Day. How not fitting.

O2

[bczandm]

What happened? I thought it was dead?

[Doc45]

Could still die in committee, fingers crossed.

[mb504]

Could still die in committee, fingers crossed.


Always worthwhile to show up either in person or via zoom.

[Clint45]

Always worthwhile to show up either in person or via zoom.

If showing up via Zoom, try not to pull a Toobin.

[MED]

Could still die in committee, fingers crossed.

All introduced bills in CO are required to have a hearing. It may or may not get voted on. If it does get voted on, it will go on the second reading calendar. It can be postponed indefinitely there. If they do bring it up for a vote, it will definitely pass out of committee.

[bczandm]

So the way I've read this it limits the transfer of guns to an FFL for specific set of reasons. One of the allowable reasons doesn't seem to allow transfer to an FFL to sell a gun out of state. Does that mean that we can't take an item to an FFL to transfer it out of state if it's a prohibited item in Colorado?

[def90]

So the way I've read this it limits the transfer of guns to an FFL for specific set of reasons. One of the allowable reasons doesn't seem to allow transfer to an FFL to sell a gun out of state. Does that mean that we can't take an item to an FFL to transfer it out of state if it's a prohibited item in Colorado?

The exclusion text reads: " A LICENSED GUN DEALER WHO HAS REMAINING INVENTORY OF ASSAULT WEAPONS ON OR AFTER JULY 1, 2023, AND SELLS OR TRANSFERS THE REMAINING INVENTORY ONLY TO A NON-COLORADO RESIDENT AND THE SALE OR TRANSFER TAKES PLACE OUT-OF-STATE. "

Which means that after July 1 an FFL can sell/transfer an "assault weapon" only to a non-colorado resident out of state. So yes, an FFL and anyone else can still sell their "assault weapons" to anyone else out of state. Not sure how the "non-colorado resident" thing would hold up for someone that is a Colorado resident but they have a second home in another state.

[dbgunner]

Here are emails and phone numbers to contact and voice your opposition.
Remember it is not just an AWB. Plenty of other anti-2A bills proposed (red flag, 3 day waiting, suing firearm manufacturers for product misuse, 21 year old to buy, prohibiting shootin on private land in rural areas, etc)
This is from an email I received from the Colorado Freedom Force.


Please take action by Wednesday at 1:30 p.m.

Here are the emails and phone numbers of each member of this committee for you to contact:

Mike Weissman - mike.weissman.house@coleg.gov 303-866-2942

Jennifer Bacon - jennifer.bacon.house@coleg.gov 303-866-2909

Ryan Armagost - ryan.armagost.house@coleg.gov 303-866-2906

Lindsey Daugherty - lindsey.daugherty.house@coleg.gov 303-866-2950

Elisabeth Epps - elisabeth.epps.house@coleg.gov 303-866-2911

Gabe Evans - gabe.evans.house@coleg.gov - 303-866-2943

Lorena Garcia - lorena.garcia.house@coleg.gov 303-866-2964

Stephanie Luck - stephanie.luck.house@coleg.gov 303-866-2905

Bob Marshall - bob.marshall.house@coleg.gov 303-866-2936

Said Sharbini - said.sharbini.house@coleg.gov 303-866-2918

Marc Snyder - marc.snyder.house@coleg.gov 303-866-2932

Matt Soper - matthew.soper.house@coleg.gov 303-866-2583

Steven Woodrow - steven.woodrow.house@coleg.gov 303-866-2967

You can also contribute here to support the Colorado Freedom Force and our ongoing programs defending the Second Amendment.

Thank you for your continued efforts to defend our freedoms in Colorado!

[brutal]

Link for the lazy (like me).

You can customize the form letter or consider using it to help you get started on your own submission.

https://act.nraila.org/campaign/46871/

[DDT951]

It appears to be moved to 930am Wednesday the 19th?

[.455_Hunter]

It appears to be moved to 930am Wednesday the 19th?

Yes- Per RMGO twitter.

[kidicarus13]

It appears to be moved to 930am Wednesday the 19th?Tricky, tricky 🥸

[DDT951]

What is the game to keep stalling the hearing in committee?

[def90]

What is the game to keep stalling the hearing in committee?

People lose interest?

[eddiememphis]

https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com/2023/04/18/sweeping-semi-automatic-ban-first-committee-hearing/

Meeting today with a few different provisions.

The original draft created a class 6 felony for anyone selling a banned weapon if that weapon was later used in the commission of a felony or a crime of violence. That has been removed from the bill.

The other change is the term “possession” has been removed, along with all the conditions for possession prior to the effective date of the law. The law now applies to: “The unlawful manufacture, import, purchase, sale, and transfer of ownership of assault weapons,” and possession of a rapid-fire trigger activators, leaving open to interpretation whether those who possess the firearms prior to the effective date are grandfathered in.

[kidicarus13]

Audio link:
https://sg001-harmony.sliq.net/00327/Harmony/en/PowerBrowser/PowerBrowserV2/20230419/29/14620

500+ witnesses and scheduled for up to 12hrs of testimony. Better have a Snickers, it's going to be a long day.

[One Shot]

im afraid if it doesnt pass the house, it will end up on the ballot like Washington

[buffalobo]

The rhetoric and stupidity of some of the witnesses testifying in support of this bill is astounding.

The sheriffs testifying against the bill did a decent job and made some good points.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

[rtr]

Is there a livestream somewhere?

[One Shot]

i'm just listening to the audio link that kidicarus posted

https://sg001-harmony.sliq.net/00327...30419/29/14620

[buffalobo]

^^^this.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

[eddiememphis]

9news just said it is going to last until 11:00.

They also said Elisabeth Epps said she is going to gut the bill and turn it into a bump stock ban.

It is odd she wants to curtail people's rights, having been the executive director of the Colorado Freedom Fund.

[Ramsker]

Hope this disaster of a bill fails completely . . . guess we'll find out.

https://www.denverpost.com/2023/04/19/colorado-assault-weapons-ban-democrats-bill/

The Denver lawmaker sponsoring a proposed ban on the sale or purchase of assault weapons in Colorado floated a significant scaleback of the bill Wednesday morning — a move that acknowledged the uncertainty of an impending committee vote.

But Rep. Elisabeth Epps said a failure to enact a ban would show that the state’s historic Democratic majorities aren’t serious about the policy.

In a lengthy opening statement to the House Judiciary Committee, the Democratic lawmaker told her colleagues that she was contemplating an amendment that would limit the bill — HB23-1230 — to a ban on bump stocks. Those devices, which allow semi-automatic firearms to be fired continuously, were banned during the Trump administration, but a federal appellate court struck down the prohibition in January.

While the U.S. Justice Department appeals that ruling and the ban remains in effect, Epps told the committee that a bump stock ban in Colorado would provide more assurance in the state.

. . .

As the committee settled in Wednesday for 12 hours of testimony before an expected vote on whether to advance the bill to the full House, Epps said she didn’t believe there was a path to get the bill out of committee “intact.” She plans to decide whether to bring her bump-stock amendment while public testimony unfolds.

Any amendments to the bill — from her or other committee members — would come at the end of that testimony, which is set to last into the evening.

Though Democrats have a 9-4 majority on the committee, House members, including Democrats, have said for weeks that they doubt the measure, as written, would pass to the full chamber.

[Bowtie]

Drip, Drip, Drip they compromise on Bump stocks this year Then next year it will be mag-bans, then whatever else they come up with. Epps said in her opening statement they will get it done. It might take 10 years but they will get it done. It was good to hear such a strong response today and to hear that commie Epps cry about her fellow commies/Dems not rubber stamping her and Felony-Fields bill. We need to break this super majority in the House and Senate or it will get done. Epps said she is an abolitionist when it comes to gun rights. And I learned that the muzzle velocity of an assault rifle is 4 times faster than a bolt action rifle.

[Ramsker]

Brendan Bialy (was one of the kids who stopped the STEM school shooting) just roasted the bill.

Well done!

[ray1970]

And I learned that the muzzle velocity of an assault rifle is 4 times faster than a bolt action rifle.

That?s why nobody has ever been killed with a bolt action. The bullets are traveling so slow that everyone can easily dodge them.

[ferrum]

That?s why nobody has ever been killed with a bolt action. The bullets are traveling so slow that everyone can easily dodge them.

Well , I guess that explains some of the deer I have missed over the years

[hollohas]

Which Sheriffs were there to speak against it?

[buffalobo]

Which Sheriffs were there to speak against it?I heard Roybal and Reams speak and answer questions. I think there were at least 2-3 more in same group. I dont know if other groups or individual sheriffs testified.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

[buffalobo]

Dave Kopel testfied short time ago.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

[kidicarus13]

Also, Douglas County Sheriff Weekly.
93584

[Ramsker]

It's dead, Jim (until they try again) . . .

https://denvergazette.com/news/government/colorado-ban-assault-weapon-proposal-shaky-start/article_4b4201d6-6b5f-56e5-9483-0c627caf828b.html (https://denvergazette.com/news/government/colorado-ban-assault-weapon-proposal-shaky-start/article_4b4201d6-6b5f-56e5-9483-0c627caf828b.html)

Legislation that sought to ban so-called "assault weapons" died early Thursday morning after four Democrats joined the Colorado House Judiciary Committee's Republicans to indefinitely postpone the bill on a 8-5 vote.

Shortly after midnight, Democrat Reps. Lindsey Daugherty, Bob Marshall, Said Sharbini and Marc Snyder voted down the legislation along with their Republican colleagues after a pair of amendments on bump stocks and rapid-fire trigger activators were lost.

The hearing, which kicked off Wednesday morning, drew a record 522 witnesses seeking to testify.

[DDT951]

It's dead, Jim (until they try again) . . .

https://denvergazette.com/news/government/colorado-ban-assault-weapon-proposal-shaky-start/article_4b4201d6-6b5f-56e5-9483-0c627caf828b.html (https://denvergazette.com/news/government/colorado-ban-assault-weapon-proposal-shaky-start/article_4b4201d6-6b5f-56e5-9483-0c627caf828b.html)

Legislation that sought to ban so-called "assault weapons" died early Thursday morning after four Democrats joined the Colorado House Judiciary Committee's Republicans to indefinitely postpone the bill on a 8-5 vote.

Shortly after midnight, Democrat Reps. Lindsey Daugherty, Bob Marshall, Said Sharbini and Marc Snyder voted down the legislation along with their Republican colleagues after a pair of amendments on bump stocks and rapid-fire trigger activators were lost.

The hearing, which kicked off Wednesday morning, drew a record 522 witnesses seeking to testify.

One piece of good news.

[eddiememphis]

Just a pause on the road to registration and confiscation.

The left will use this as a rallying cry to elect even more hard core gun banners to boost their votes in the chamber.

The GOP will do nothing, as usual.

The other 4 bills have passed committee and are waiting to be signed- the most insidious is the rollback of protections from lawsuits against manufacturers, distributors and dealers.

True leftists are determined to gain total control over everyone's lives. Government is their religion and like all zealots, they are impossible to dissuade.

[DDT951]

My warning would be...

Gun owners now have another year to plan... get what you want before next legislative session...

[MED]

My guess is that this is more of a distraction to take our minds off of all the other bad things they did this legislative session to give the illusion of a win. It's only a matter of time before the unconstitutional red flag law is weaponized against the "undesirables" and the restrictions on private property use in rural areas along with their land use proposals to urbanize rural areas impact us all. Colorado is also joining in on the bankrupt the firearms industry band wagon through frivolous lawsuits that don't meet the requirements for proximate cause.

[def90]

Seeing that all gun sales in Colorado have to be approved by the CBI I'm not sure how a gun shop / FFL could ever lose a suit against them.

[MED]

Seeing that all gun sales in Colorado have to be approved by the CBI I'm not sure how a gun shop / FFL could ever lose a suit against them.

It's not about winning; it's about legal fees bankrupting the industry by forcing them to defend themselves against litigation.

[def90]

It's not about winning; it's about legal fees bankrupting the industry by forcing them to defend themselves against litigation.

I don't know, don't forget that it costs the plaintiff $$ to file a claim and pay their own lawyers as well. Get Independence Institute or a couple other legal orgs on the first couple cases and let them shred the arguments apart and few lawyers are going to be to excited about giving it another shot.

[DDT951]

It's not about winning; it's about legal fees bankrupting the industry by forcing them to defend themselves against litigation.

Also no insurance company will touch them?

[MED]

I don't know, don't forget that it costs the plaintiff $$ to file a claim and pay their own lawyers as well. Get Independence Institute or a couple other legal orgs on the first couple cases and let them shred the arguments apart and few lawyers are going to be to excited about giving it another shot.

The law being passed by CO doesn't require the injured party filing the lawsuit. It will all be Soros and Bloomberg funded. The immunity laws to prevent frivolous lawsuits with no proximate cause were put in place because these tactics have already been done. You may remember some of the big manufactures that succumbed to the pressure a few decades back.

[DDT951]

Interesting. The media is now changing language admitting it is not about “assault weapons” but is about all semi automatic firearms.



“Colorado Democratic lawmakers killed an ambitious bill Thursday that would have banned the sale and transfer of semiautomatic firearms”

https://kdvr.com/news/politics/colorado-politics-news/semi-auto-firearm-ban-fails-in-democrat-controlled-colorado/

[ray1970]

?Colorado Democratic lawmakers killed an ambitious bill Thursday that would have banned the sale and transfer of semiautomatic firearms?



I?ll give whoever wrote that partial credit for at least calling them what they are: semiautomatic firearms.

[def90]

Just paving the way to shift the public away from Assault Weapons to semi auto.. similar to the progression of the media's use of the term illegal alien to undocumented workers to immigrants.

And the Colorado Republican party has shown that there is likely no hope for any reversal in the make up of the state house and senate.

They are getting educated as to what the "offending" text is and next year they will have a bill that sounds "nicer" and will be one step closer to passing.

[O2HeN2]

I completely missed that the waiting period bill passed. :(

O2

[hollohas]

I completely missed that the waiting period bill passed. :(

O2And that was their entire plan.

(Waving hands) "Hey everybody, we're going to ban your guns!"

Everybody - "No! Let's speak out against this at the legislature!"

Meanwhile, 4 other anti gun bills pass without any pressure at all.

[eddiememphis]

And that was their entire plan.

(Waving hands) "Hey everybody, we're going to ban your guns!"

Everybody - "No! Let's speak out against this at the legislature!"

Meanwhile, 4 other anti gun bills pass without any pressure at all.

A 5th is close as well.

https://www.coloradopolitics.com/legislature/ghost-gun-ban-colorado-committee-approval/article_35700aac-dfcf-11ed-bdb8-1fe57af15a5b.html

"Ghost gun" ban and registration passed committee.

[FoxtArt]

I think the most effective testimony on bills like this is probably "Hey, the Supreme Court is 6:3 right now, please pass this thing so I can take a case there." Not even joking, I bet it is a significant consideration for why bills like this die considering the makeup of our state...

I've testified on other bills, but knew this one was going to die (it was decided as much before this testimony).

I commend those that nevertheless burned a day to show their opposition.