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buffalobo
03-18-2023, 21:26
Had mag feeding issues in a 22/45 today at Steel Challenge. Ammo appeared to be binding in mags and causing FTF. Overall length appeared to be long. Ammo was CCI AR Tactical 22lr. Switched ammo to some Federal bulk pack and issue stopped ammo fed fine.
Anyone experienced this before?
I have not yet checked the CCI with micrometer to see if matches published specs.
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funkymonkey1111
03-18-2023, 22:11
had terrible experiences with a 22/45 and a Bergara BXR with browning .22
other ammo worked fine
I had a 22/45 and I only ran a few brands through it but they all ran fine. Going off of my poor memory I believe it ran fine on CCI standard velocity, Federal automatch, and some sort of Eley (ten x?).
Hope the malfunctions didn?t ruin someone?s match or make for a bad experience.
buffalobo
03-19-2023, 17:50
Appears to be purely a mag/ammo issue. Gun ran perfect when I switched ammo.
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buffalobo
03-19-2023, 17:54
Even had some issue with well used mags borrowed from another shooter.
Will be doing some measuring with micrometer later this evening. I believe will find the CCI is slightly over sized in length.
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Little Dutch
03-19-2023, 22:00
Interesting. I've tried a whole host of brands with my 22/45 lite mk iii and never had any issues. Federal bulk is what I mostly used though, just because I have a lot of it.
It'll be interesting to get a report on what you find after measuring the ammunition.
buffalobo
03-19-2023, 23:22
CCI AR Tactical which is the ammo that was causing issue measured .990 with variation of .002 + or -.
Federal Champion 36gr copper hollow point measured .975 with similar variation as CCI.
So until I get a few thousand rounds thru the mags or get motivated enough to polish interior of mags I will check and run ammo that measures close to the Fed Champ.
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buffalobo
03-20-2023, 00:02
Measured a few others
CCI Quiet-22 40gr lead round nose - .979-.986
CCI Quiet Semi-Auto 45gr lead round nose very consistant at .984-.986
Eley club 40gr lead round nose .975-.983
Eley Tenex 40gr flat nose very consistant .958-.960
Remington 22 Subsonic 38gr lead round nose hollow point .962-.968
Winchester M22 40gr black copper plated round nose .979-.986
Measured 5 rounds from each.
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For what it's worth
SAAMI spec is 1.000" -.050" for both Match and Sporting 22 Long Rifle cartridges.
Federal bulk pack is my go to plinking ammo.
Federal Auto Match is also really good for plinking.
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CCI ar-15 Tactical ammo has a heavier wax coating than most...in colder weather, with certain mags/guns, this can cause a feeding issue.
Friends dont let friends shoot Thunderbolt.
Come on. Its awesome for practicing malfunction drills.
buffalobo
03-20-2023, 08:56
For what it's worth
SAAMI spec is 1.000" -.050" for both Match and Sporting 22 Long Rifle cartridges.Good reminder that SAAMI is out there. I rarely relate it to 22lr, usually just the calibers I reload.
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buffalobo
03-20-2023, 09:02
CCI ar-15 Tactical ammo has a heavier wax coating than most...in colder weather, with certain mags/guns, this can cause a feeding issue.I noticed this last night when I had a dozen different varieties laid out.
It was a cold wind Saturday...
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buffalobo
03-20-2023, 09:04
Come on. Its awesome for practicing malfunction drills.Especially for the kids, don't need to remember to bring snap caps.
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buffalobo
03-20-2023, 09:09
Federal bulk pack is my go to plinking ammo.
Federal Auto Match is also really good for plinking.
Friends dont let friends shoot Thunderbolt.Federal saved the day once I wised up.
Thunderbolt - we call it random snap caps.
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Little Dutch
03-20-2023, 09:26
Federal bulk pack is my go to plinking ammo.
Federal Auto Match is also really good for plinking.
Friends dont let friends shoot Thunderbolt.
Like you've got a say in whether or not a Thunderbolt fires...
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