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Thought you might enjoy this. Just watch it without sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laArmgaM3To&feature=related
Self defense is not taught very well to the masses and I think these guys showcased a decent video. You can see elements of KM form in what they do.
Thoughts? I think a self defense forum would be fun.
You and Tristan could run it. KM sounds fun and painful.
It always looks cool with willing opponents......
It always looks cool with willing opponents......
HAHA, yes. Much less "cool" and "fun" with those who aren't willing. HAHA.
Stuart, it's only painful as you learn. After a few years you build up callusus and resistance to it... just like in football, or shooting elephant guns, or running a marathon, etc.
HAHA, yes. Much less "cool" and "fun" with those who aren't willing. HAHA.
Stuart, it's only painful as you learn. After a few years you build up callusus and resistance to it... just like in football, or shooting elephant guns, or running a marathon, etc.
No it's only painful when you loose.
looks pretty cool and like some great training. i wonder how many times those guys screw up and hit the other guy in the face or something! Might hurt a tad!
I would love to learn some stuff like that.
kidicarus13
01-05-2010, 20:15
The shooting drills from 2:40-3:50 are a lot more realistic than what you can practice at most ranges- shooting a silhouette from 25' while stationary.
Can anyone tell me why they teach your how to shoot sideways like you're a gangsta! And furthermore what the advantage is of it?
Can anyone tell me why they teach your how to shoot sideways like you're a gangsta! And furthermore what the advantage is of it?
From what I learned and understand is that sideways shooting has several roles. For instance, if you are able to draw but someone has you in an arm bar, you will only be able to shoot sideways, so it's good practice to "point" shoot - meaning shoot without the sights. Sometimes you might have to shoot through a narrow sideways opening. Sometimes, depending on your draw stroke it can help get off a quicker shot... Biggest advantage that I see is that it allows you more than one "form" to shoot from. Repeating basics is great but if you always repeat the same setup (straight stance, shoulders back, arms straight, feet shoulder length apart, both hands on gun, etc) you get a littel rigid in what you can and can't do. You don't have a chance to get "staged" when someone is running at you with a knife, so it's good to point shoot sometimes. Another reason is that if your arm is broken, you still have use of your wrist to get the radial shots whereas if you were holding straight up, you could not use your wrist to move shots...
This is just stuff off the top of my head. I have no idea if it has a practical use or not. I've seen several "in the know" folks try it though, but I've never asked why. Good question. Don't know... other thoughts?
two shoes
01-05-2010, 22:15
KM = Krav Maga???
chrisguy
01-05-2010, 22:52
Nice find Bear thanks for posting. KM, also Escrima~Kali~"stick" and/or Pentjak Silat-ey techniques maybe?
KM = Krav Maga???
Yep.
Great now I feel guilty, it's been too long since I did any kind of training.
Great now I feel guilty, it's been too long since I did any kind of training.
Ditto.. I had a car wreck that kinda put an end to it for me... I ought to see if I can't still do some stuff, been a few years. I need to just workout period.
Speaking of sights, I had a personal revelation last year and I never asked people on the board to try it.
With your gun empty, try drawing from your holster at a target, and point at the target with your trigger finger. What I mean is, since your trigger finger is supposed to be straight against the frame of the gun, try drawing and physically pointing your finger at whatever your target is. For me, I find that I am always MUCH closer to already being on sight than if I just try to point the gun at the target. This probably doesn't apply to people like Hoser and Cha-lee that do competitive shooting all the time and have already learned this skill in a manner that fits them. I've only done two competitive shoots so I'm far from being able to draw and fire with any sense of accuracy.
Try it out with different pieces and let me know what you think.
Interesting... I'd never thought of it that way (Like a kid playing toy gun with his fingers) Fortunately this is already a habit I formed with gun handling and drawing my gun. [Beer]
I have practiced that using an airsoft gun. Hang a sheet from the ceiling, and tape your target to the sheet. It's good to get the feel of it. It's is much different than the real thing, weight, recoil, etc. But I am convinced it has helped me out with point shooting.
Don't forget your eyeballs though. Oh, and my buddy says his wife hates having those airsoft pellets go through the vaccum.
Here is my first contribution to the self-defense thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAAJ2GUzWz8&feature=player_embedded
GoldFinger
01-08-2010, 16:31
[LOL]
Mugger - (runs up and tapes his arm to Stu's) "Give me your wallet"
Stu - (turns to lady friend) "stand back baby, I've been trained for this"
I was watching that video wondering, "Who the hell uses a punching bag to warm up for an arm wrestling match?"
gnihcraes
01-09-2010, 09:30
did someone say Kali? Escrima Sticks? I'll play... couple year old picture... belt rank is higher now... one of my favorite things... Escrima
http://www.dcandh.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=470&g2_serialNumber=1
(http://www.dcandh.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=465&g2_serialNumber=1)
chrisguy
01-09-2010, 12:32
did someone say Kali? Escrima Sticks? I'll play... couple year old picture... belt rank is higher now... one of my favorite things... Escrima
Congrats on the promotions(s). Have you gotten taller too? Oh wait, you're on the right... [Tooth]
JK... Yeah that was me. I loved kali but it's been a lonnnnnng time. Would you mind posting where you train here, thoughts on the school etc? Feel free to PM me about that if you'd prefer, either way I'd appreciate knowing where it's offered locally.
For those unfamiliar with these styles, a major benefit of stick training is that on the street, many of the techniques easily carry over to whatever's at hand. The "stick" can be an umbrella, tire iron, piece of pipe, cane, rolled up newspaper/magazine, snow scraper, an actual stick or branch off the ground etc.
Really fun disarms -- I remember one where, if done right, you tie up the other guy's lead arm & stick such that simply straightening your own arm sends their stick spinning out of their hand. At one point I made a purposefully oversized/heavy set of sticks out of bird's eye maple for training. Still have one, bro has the other.
[NunChaku]
gnihcraes
01-09-2010, 18:25
Yeah, I'm on the right. :) few more gray hairs now too....
We are training with Mile High Karate - Stephen Oliver is the grand master, who was taught by Jhoon Rhee out of Florida I believe. Korean Taekwondo (American Karate).
Training is good, instructors are good, there are some issues with the way things are run I believe, but each has their own opinion. Nice thing about this training is it compiles many other things. Taekwondo, Aikido, Kick Boxing, Knife, Chucks, Escrima, Bo Staff, Kama etc. And you get to do the weapons training after about blue belt. Some schools won't allow any weapons training until you complete their brown or black belt training.
The cost is high $$, there are contracts unless you pay in full in the beginning. If you really want to spend 3-4 years or so working towards the blackbelt and and can give it several nights a week and weekends, it's probably worth it. We're at a stall point right now, they require many books to be read, binders full of material to be studied and completed before we can continue on to the black belt. Everyone is essentially trained to be a trainer for their system.
They "Progress Check" once a month with a "Test" the next. So you can move quickly through the belts. Essentially a belt every two months unless you really screw up bad or just don't show any forward progress.
We're supposed to test to High Brown belt in April, but I probably won't be able to make it happen, too much bookwork to complete and I will possibly be changing jobs that will cause problems in getting to class during the week. If we don't test at our belt rank in April, it will be October before we can test for the high brown again.
If we test and pass to high brown, then we're set for "Prep Cycle" and then the work really begins. Hours and Hours of work each night for months on end to even test into the black belt cycle which is held each october in breckinridge. Final black belt testing is something like 36 hours straight. Friday night through Sunday... Live or die. :) (just kidding)
Other schools don't test so much and other styles don't test at all which some people prefer. Just have to ask ahead of time before signing up.
MHK will make you work, they have a requirement of being in fit as much as being able to perform the art. It's been a great workout and if done properly, it makes you strong, as do most martial arts. Taekwondo (karate) has beat my body up pretty good. Knees especially. So I'm not sure I could complete all the training without really slowing down and taking it easy, which I might have to do.
Thankfully we did pay up front and can come/go as we please. So if we take a break for a few months, we're not paying all the montly fees. If the son wants to quit for a while and come back in a few years later, he can.
If you want to just casually work on some form of martial art, look around at the rec centers and such in your area, someone will have classes at a reasonable price, pay as you go with out a contract.
Hope that helps. There is plenty more to say... PM if you want.
Here is a quick summary... it's about marketing more than anything anymore...
http://www.martialartsresources.com/ma_background.html
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