Wife Says Buy More Ammo!!

[wctriumph]

After my wife and I went shooting last Monday, she asked me if we had enough ammo in case SHTF. My answer was yes, if things started happening fairly soon, like within the next couple of months. But if we need to wait another year, no we don?t and still be able to practice.
So she said that it is okay to divert some discretionary funds into stocking up on reserve ammo on top of what we use for practice.
I love my wife.

[rondog]

Sweet! Mine couldn't care less. Doesn't believe in danger, won't touch a gun. Thinks I already have enough ammo "to blow up the world".....

[Vic Tory]

wctriumph, she's a keeper!

[Grant H.]

Now is a great time to be stocking up on the three B's:

Beans
Bullets
Bandages

Glad your wife is on board!

[Clint45]

After minimizing and standardizing my collection, my wife actually has more guns than me right now... and she occasionally asks if we have enough ammo. Unfortunately we live in a studio apartment... some of our friends have literal pallets in their garage.

I told her we have plenty of range ammo, and enough HP to reload all our mags a few times. Filled the pantry and stocked up on medical supplies though.

[Great-Kazoo]

About 30 yrs too late.

[O2HeN2]

I've never understood having thousands and thousands of rounds of ammo. Yhea, you should have a decent starter supply, but if you're really going to get into that many shootouts after a SHTF scenario, after every shootout one of two things will happen:

You'll get their ammo, or, well, figure it out.

O2

[brutal]

I've never understood having thousands and thousands of rounds of ammo. Yhea, you should have a decent starter supply, but if you're really going to get into that many shootouts after a SHTF scenario, after every shootout one of two things will happen:

You'll get their ammo, or, well, figure it out.

O2

And when they start banning ammo sales or tax it out of reach for modest folks?

2 is 1 and 1 is none.

[rondog]

And when they start banning ammo sales or tax it out of reach for modest folks?

2 is 1 and 1 is none.

This is my real fear, not so much urban combat.

[buffalobo]

When the lights go out the ammo supply becomes finite.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

[Erni]

I've never understood having thousands and thousands of rounds of ammo. Yhea, you should have a decent starter supply, but if you're really going to get into that many shootouts after a SHTF scenario, after every shootout one of two things will happen:

You'll get their ammo, or, well, figure it out.

O2

Just thinking out loud.
Assume 3-5 skirmishes or engagements. Multiply by number of members on your team. Multiply by average rounds you think each person will expand during the engagement. Double it. Now what?s that come to?

[Great-Kazoo]

I've never understood having thousands and thousands of rounds of ammo. Yhea, you should have a decent starter supply, but if you're really going to get into that many shootouts after a SHTF scenario, after every shootout one of two things will happen:

You'll get their ammo, or, well, figure it out.

O2


A few reasons. 1 being, as mentioned, like fuel. Once it's out, it's out.

Another one is. When Obama won. The lines at gun stores, with people willing to pay 3-5x the price for mags speaks volumes to why one can never have enough ammo.

Some people don't reload and actually shoot their guns. I reload, but ammo prices are so low, atm, i can't reload, except for 357 to save money

Teaching gun classes 5x + a month burns ammo supplies out, real fast. It's not too much of a problem, now that the range has said to use their ammo for classes.

So the reality is. What's ones expectation when it comes to guns, ammo, food storage etc. One should not wait till they run out of gas to refill the tank. Sadly some do.

[hollohas]

It's a great idea to be stocked up going into any election year.

Ammo isn't super low now, but it's the lowest it's been a years, so may be time to reinforce personal supply.

[eddiememphis]

Ammo can be considered a commodity. It tends to retain it's value over a long period. If you play the market, you could make a profit but is it worth speculating?

In a doomsday scenario, you will likely be able to use it to barter. 10 or 15 rounds of .22 may be worth a chicken.

I am not going to stock up in anticipation of daily shootouts with roving gangs of pillagers. We live in a society where most people will be dead three or four days after the water stops flowing and the majority of the rest a week or two later from conflict, then starvation.

That is when I will stick my head out and see what remains.

Judging by the current political situation, locally and nationally, it seems we have more to fear from our own government then from an emp or pandemic.

[Hummer]

And when they start banning ammo sales or tax it out of reach for modest folks?

2 is 1 and 1 is none.


A few reasons. 1 being, as mentioned, like fuel. Once it's out, it's out.

Another one is. When Obama won. The lines at gun stores, with people willing to pay 3-5x the price for mags speaks volumes to why one can never have enough ammo.

Teaching gun classes 5x + a month burns ammo supplies out, real fast. It's not too much of a problem, now that the range has said to use their ammo for classes.

So the reality is. What's ones expectation when it comes to guns, ammo, food storage etc. One should not wait till they run out of gas to refill the tank. Sadly some do.


It's kind of like the TP shortage when Covid started. Woe is you if you didn't have any stores. Even those of us who stocked hundreds were still looking for more. But US and Canada capacity to produce was never in jeopardy. Yet, one never knows what will happen in a war, and right now the free world is in a hot war with dictatorial totalitarian states. Be prepared.

[Vic Tory]

If you're well-stocked on ammo, it will becomes a good barter item, too.

[buffalobo]

Ammo can be considered a commodity. It tends to retain it's value over a long period. If you play the market, you could make a profit but is it worth speculating?

In a doomsday scenario, you will likely be able to use it to barter. 10 or 15 rounds of .22 may be worth a chicken.

I am not going to stock up in anticipation of daily shootouts with roving gangs of pillagers. We live in a society where most people will be dead three or four days after the water stops flowing and the majority of the rest a week or two later from conflict, then starvation.

That is when I will stick my head out and see what remains.

Judging by the current political situation, locally and nationally, it seems we have more to fear from our own government then from an emp or pandemic.And if the gangs show up for you in two days? They may not allow you to just hunker down for two weeks. Once criminals figure out the police are not coming they will rampage.

Being in a big city in doomsday scenario is a death sentence.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

[eddiememphis]

And if the gangs show up for you in two days? They may not allow you to just hunker down for two weeks. Once criminals figure out the police are not coming they will rampage.

Being in a big city in doomsday scenario is a death sentence.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

I have plenty of ammunition but I am not hoarding it specifically for that situation.

And you are correct that city livin' isn't optimal. However, there are a lot of dwellings in this city and the chances of mine being among the first to be pillaged is pretty remote. Remote enough that I don't consider it a probability, just a possibility.

There could be hundreds of reasons why society would breakdown. Preparing for all of them isn't possible. I have enough food, water and ammo to quietly wait for the smoke to clear. If roving bands of marauders find me, so be it. But I am not going to fortify my condo and stockpile 25,000 rounds of ammo for each gun in the incredibly remote possibility of that happening.

Although it is fun to think about the possible causes and outcomes of The End of the World, I am much more likely to have a chain wrapped around my head tonight when I walk the dog by one of the junkies that populate our metropolis, then to experience the scenarios we are discussing.

[buffalobo]

I would be more concerned with the accountant or mechanic with two toddlers living next door than with thugs. After a few days not being able to feed the babies, he will kill you for can of beans. Even if you give them a few days worth of food they will be back and may even let the neighbors know you have food. Soon the whole complex will be at your door.

You wont have enough ammo or food and the resulting mob will take all from you.

Hunkering down in the city is a death sentence. When shit hits fan you must get out ASAP. Best to do it now.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

[Great-Kazoo]

I would be more concerned with the accountant or mechanic with two toddlers living next door than with thugs. After a few days not being able to feed the babies, he will kill you for can of beans. Even if you give them a few days worth of food they will be back and may even let the neighbors know you have food. Soon the whole complex will be at your door.

You wont have enough ammo or food and the resulting mob will take all from you.

Hunkering down in the city is a death sentence. When shit hits fan you must get out ASAP. Best to do it now.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

True. If one looks at nyc, specifically. It became a ghost town, days after shelter in place orders were handed out. The tunnels, bridges, roadways were all but empty, with hordes of people, who could. Fleeing their apts for a friends or family members residence, outside the metro area.

To "believe" one can hunker down is foolish. Discounting the fact a father of under X age kids, will not muster up the stones to take what he can, when he can.

[eddiememphis]

I agree with you guys that in such a scenario I am in less than an ideal position. I also agree that getting rural is a great plan. However, I have spent six years building a business that depends on a large transient population.

As much as I desire it, living in the sticks isn't practical for me right now.

I don't foresee societal collapse as the most immediate threat that many do. I also am not fitting steel plates to the roof in case of a meteor, nor am I building a Faraday cage to keep THEM from monitoring me. Although that last one seems like the one threat that is closest to happening.

Fortunately, I love the government, have no firearms and nothing to hide. You hear me NSA? Nothing!

[HBARleatherneck]

However, I have spent six years building a business that depends on a large transient population.
!

You dont sell pharmaceuticals, used tents, used bikes and green cards, do you?

[eddiememphis]

You dont sell pharmaceuticals, used tents, used bikes and green cards, do you?

I wish!

I should have typed transitory but all that trans stuff is very confusing...

[HBARleatherneck]

I wish!

I should have typed transitory but all that trans stuff is very confusing...

I knew what you meant but it sounded funny when I read it.

[buffalobo]

I agree with you guys that in such a scenario I am in less than an ideal position. I also agree that getting rural is a great plan. However, I have spent six years building a business that depends on a large transient population.

As much as I desire it, living in the sticks isn't practical for me right now.

I don't foresee societal collapse as the most immediate threat that many do. I also am not fitting steel plates to the roof in case of a meteor, nor am I building a Faraday cage to keep THEM from monitoring me. Although that last one seems like the one threat that is closest to happening.

Fortunately, I love the government, have no firearms and nothing to hide. You hear me NSA? Nothing![emoji106], just using your circumstance and examples to highlight dangers and pitfalls of residing in metrpolitan areas.

I have spent alot of time and money commuting to and from the metro area over the last 20yrs. The benefits have far outweighed the costs.



If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

[SAnd]

I don't care what scenario you're thinking about if the slab hasn't cracked then you ain't got enough.
[Coffee]

[Sawin]

To play Devil's advocate for a second (I hate the city by the way), but is it not all about perspective? Have you given any thought to the fact you and your gang could be the marauders in the city taking from those neighbors of yours who are unarmed and defenseless? There's a lot of resources concentrated in the city - you could wind up "owning" the neighborhood like Negan.

[ray1970]

To play Devil's advocate for a second (I hate the city by the way), but is it not all about perspective? Have you given any thought to the fact you and your gang could be the marauders in the city taking from those neighbors of yours who are unarmed and defenseless? There's a lot of resources concentrated in the city - you could wind up "owning" the neighborhood like Negan.

Lol. When the day comes, that?s always been my plan. Hunkering down and protecting what?s mine is lame. I?m venturing out to raid those who are less prepared.

[buffalobo]

To play Devil's advocate for a second (I hate the city by the way), but is it not all about perspective? Have you given any thought to the fact you and your gang could be the marauders in the city taking from those neighbors of yours who are unarmed and defenseless? There's a lot of resources concentrated in the city - you could wind up "owning" the neighborhood like Negan.Being proactive puts you ahead of the curve, gives you more options as "situation" progresses.

Difficult to replenish resources in the city. Once the trucks stop rolling resources become finite.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

[OtterbatHellcat]

I've been very proactive regarding this stuff. I'll die a pissed off man though if I never ended up needing it for its purpose.

Kid knows where it is though, I'd feel better in death if he was using it for the purpose intended.

Don't dick around with not having back up food and ammo, etc, no matter where you live. I'm the bug in fella, and this neighborhood is not where any roving douche gang will have any success.