New Mexico governor disarms the law abiding to solve rising violence

[O2HeN2]

New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham on Friday issued an emergency public health order that suspends the open and permitted concealed carry of firearms in Albuquerque for 30 days in the midst of a spate of gun violence.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-mexico-michelle-lujan-grisham-suspends-open-concealed-carry-albuquerque-gun-violence/

[RblDiver]

New Mexico did away with qualified immunity in 2021. Any LE better be smart and not dare to enforce it, and their legislature should impeach her ASAP.

[eddiememphis]

I recall several guys on this site anticipating this- suspending rights due to a "public health crisis".

"The Democratic governor said she is expecting legal challenges, but felt compelled to act in response to gun deaths, including the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy outside a minor league baseball stadium this week."

The current playbook among Democrats seems to be act outside of the law and wait to see if there are legal repercussions.

[theGinsue]

"I welcome the debate and fight about how to make New Mexicans safer," she said at a news conference, flanked by leading law enforcement officials, including the district attorney for the Albuquerque area."


So, just how is disarming lawful citizens going to make anyone safer? Dumbass.




The governor also cited the August shooting death in Taos County of 13-year-old Amber Archuleta. A 14-year-old boy shot and killed the girl with his father's gun while they were at his home.
Yeah, she brings up this sad event, but just how would her emergency declaration/restriction have done anything to save this girl since it only applies to open/concealed carry OUTSIDE OF A HOME and only in Albuquerque.

Adding to what eddiememphis said, Liberal/Anti-Gun Playbook: Never let a tragedy go to waste. Look for every opportunity to violate citizens rights.




"Last month, 5-year-old Galilea Samaniego was fatally shot while asleep in a motor home. Four teens entered the mobile home community in two stolen vehicles just before 6 a.m. on Aug. 13 and opened fire on the trailer, according to police. The girl was struck in the head and later died at a hospital.


Well, it's a good thing she's making it illegal for a few days to possess a firearm - they would surely have prevented this unnecessary death caused by these otherwise law-abiding youth. I ask again, just how on earth do these liberal minds actually believe that their un-Constitutional restrictions will make anyone safer when the perpetrators in this case had already ignored the law by stealing cars, were likely violating the law by possessing the firearms they used in the first place (teen), and shot into what they had to have known/suspected was an occupied dwelling - all law violations. "Uh guys, I know we were planning on killing someone, but the governor says we can't carry these guns for now, so we just need to wait 30 days; mmmkay?!"

Again: The NM Gov is a dumbass.

[hollohas]

We all knew it was coming. Everybody just laid down with "20-days to slow the spread". The Gov knows Americans don't have any fight in them. We gave them a hall pass to do whatever they want because of our compliance during COVID.

[Great-Kazoo]

New Mexico did away with qualified immunity in 2021. Any LE better be smart and not dare to enforce it, and their legislature should impeach her ASAP.

When you consider the posted signs on business (covid era) storefronts said. Mask are mandatory under NM law. When i was "asked" by a salesperson to put on a mask , i said i would not be doing so. HE said well it's the law. Really when exactly did the state legislature pass mandatory mask wearing, into state law. HE got that deer in the headlights look.

So you're dealing with a state, in lg urban areas that pushed restrictive gun laws, just like CO. While they can't carry concealed, have the passed a 3 day waiting period, yet?

[theGinsue]

We just had a member start a thread in this forum about "Gun Confiscation Case Law". While it is definitely valuable information to be aware of, I need to stress that there is a difference between "gun confiscation" and "prohibition on carry/possession".

Gun confiscation, during times of emergency, has been prohibited under Public Law 109-295.

While SCOTUS has several rulings on prohibitions on carry and possession, it's restrictions are not as clear cut as 109-295. I absolutely expect legal challenges to this NM prohibition, which (in my humble opinion) will likely succeed on the plaintiff's behalf.

Unfortunately, states and municipalities continue to either ignore or misinterpret SCOTUS decisions from New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen (2022), McDonald v. City of Chicago (2010), and District of Columbia v. Heller (2008).

The sad reality of these SCOTUS decisions is that they are intentionally vague in many ways, leaving them open to various interpretations. SCOTUS has been unwilling to write an unambiguous, clear cut, no holds barred line in the sand decision. Because of this, governments at all levels within the U.S. continue to pass un-Constitutional infringements on our Second Amendment rights. Unless and until SCOTUS steps up to do the right thing, these infringements will continue.


ETA:
Since plain language is not understandable by our elected officials, I thought I'd add these 2 items:

Amendment II of the United States Constitution
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Infringe (verb)
Verb Forms:
past simple: infringed
past participle: infringed
​[transitive] infringe something (of an action, a plan, etc.) to break a law or rule
​[transitive, intransitive] to limit somebody’s legal rights

[Great-Kazoo]

We just had a member start a thread in this forum about "Gun Confiscation Case Law". While it is definitely valuable information to be aware of, I need to stress that there is a difference between "gun confiscation" and "prohibition on carry/possession".

Gun confiscation, during times of emergency, has been prohibited under Public Law 109-295.

While SCOTUS has several rulings on prohibitions on carry and possession, it's restrictions are not as clear cut as 109-295. I absolutely expect legal challenges to this NM prohibition, which (in my humble opinion) will likely succeed on the plaintiff's behalf.

Unfortunately, states and municipalities continue to either ignore or misinterpret SCOTUS decisions from New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen (2022), McDonald v. City of Chicago (2010), and District of Columbia v. Heller (2008).

The sad reality of these SCOTUS decisions is that they are intentionally vague in many ways, leaving them open to various interpretations. SCOTUS has been unwilling to write an unambiguous, clear cut, no holds barred line in the sand decision. Because of this, governments at all levels within the U.S. continue to pass un-Constitutional infringements on our Second Amendment rights. Unless and until SCOTUS steps up to do the right thing, these infringements will continue.


ETA:
Since plain language is not understandable by our elected officials, I thought I'd add these 2 items:

Amendment II of the United States Constitution
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Infringe (verb)
Verb Forms:
past simple: infringed
past participle: infringed
​[transitive] infringe something (of an action, a plan, etc.) to break a law or rule
​[transitive, intransitive] to limit somebody’s legal rights

What ever terminology used. The sheriffs of both counties said they will not be enforcing her decree.

[eddiememphis]

https://apnews.com/article/albuquerque-guns-governor-concealed-carry-firearms-3fbe91683934057fe3036ccf187a7f1c

Lawsuits are being filed.

Even this little fool thinks it is a step too far.

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[Bailey Guns]

^^ Aw, son-of-a-bitch. Don't put me in the possession of having to agree with, or even having to defend, him even just once.

[eddiememphis]

^^ Aw, son-of-a-bitch. Don't put me in the possession of having to agree with, or even having to defend, him even just once.

To be fair, California Rep Ted Lieu said it first...

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[Scanker19]

^^ Aw, son-of-a-bitch. Don't put me in the possession of having to agree with, or even having to defend, him even just once.

No shit I feel Dirty. Edit: did he really say that?

Yeah the county sheriff isn?t enforcing?. supposedly.


double edit: supposedly the Mayor and the police chief and the Democrat DA for the county will not be either.

[flogger]

This doesn't sound legal, calling it a 'public health order' is even stranger. You can bet many Democratic state Governors are giddy over this.


Breaking: New Mexico governor issues public health order temporarily suspending open and conceal carry laws in Albuquerque - TheBlaze (https://www.theblaze.com/news/new-mexico-open-concel-suspension)

[funkymonkey1111]

https://ar-15.co/threads/191497-New-Mexico-governor-disarms-the-law-abiding-to-solve-rising-violence

[earplug]

New Mexico history with the Indian wars, Pueblo Revolt and the invasion by the USA and later range wars must be banned in schools

[JohnnyDrama]

https://apnews.com/article/albuquerque-guns-governor-concealed-carry-firearms-3fbe91683934057fe3036ccf187a7f1c

Lawsuits are being filed.

Even this little fool thinks it is a step too far.

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Hogg will change his story after a few other governors try this in different iterations. With an election coming, probably within the next year. Hogg is just following the current wind direction. As has been already posted, he wasn't the first.

[JohnnyDrama]

New Mexico history with the Indian wars, Pueblo Revolt and the invasion by the USA and later range wars must be banned in schools

Rankings: Pre-K-12 - Best States for Childhood Education (usnews.com) (https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education/prek-12)

According to this survey by US News, New Mexico is rated as 50th as far as public education. The results are based on standardized test scores and graduation rates. Somehow, I get the feeling that the events you mentioned aren't even a concern among many educators. Not that I think it is their fault, they are probably more concerned with getting the kids to show up and teaching them to read.

It's too bad. All the events you mention are fascinating as hell. A true case of fact being better than fiction, Hollywood couldn't make up a better story than the history or New Mexico.

[Great-Kazoo]

Sheriff Mark Cage Eddy Cty.

I’ve heard people say this new power play by MLG is a trial run. Nope. The harshest lockdowns in the nation during C0V1D was the test run. Many of us stood tall. Many cowed down. Many did nothing. That’s the truth. These games are nothing new now. We’ve been there and done that and have a few scars to prove it.

Here is my stance in a nutshell. No boasting. No threats. No political statements. The Second Amendment is alive and well in Eddy County, New Mexico. It will be protected fiercely and without hesitation. As will the other Articles and Amendments to the United States Constitution and the New Mexico Constitution.

You elected me as your Sheriff to conserve the peace and to protect those rights. I, and my deputies in turn, swore an OATH to do just that. Actually, I swore that oath back in 1983 when I first joined the United States Navy and that original oath has never expired. I take it seriously folks.

You’ve heard my slogan “Not in my county. Not on my watch.” Nothing has changed, nor will it change. Be safe and hold the line! #trythatinEddyCounty

[eddiememphis]

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/states/newmexico/nm.htm

CDC info on New Mexico 2021

Gun violence is a health emergency but drug overdoses are not?

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[TRnCO]

^^^^^bringing up those stats is kind of like bringing up the fact the AR15's are used to kill way fewer people than handguns do, BUT yet the AR15 is what the Dems. are trying the hardest to ban.

[DDT951]

https://apnews.com/article/albuquerque-guns-governor-concealed-carry-firearms-3fbe91683934057fe3036ccf187a7f1c

Lawsuits are being filed.

Even this little fool thinks it is a step too far.

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So what if a lawsuit is filed.

Will she be jailed like the Jan 6 protestors?

A lawsuit doesn?t bother her as there are no repercussions.

[BPTactical]

My standard response regarding cacti, AIDS, Ebola, turpentine and a Hilti hammer drill applies.
Repeatedly until capitulation and submission is achieved.

[Scanker19]

The NM attorney general has said he will NOT defend her in the upcoming lawsuits.

[DDT951]

The NM attorney general has said he will NOT defend her in the upcoming lawsuits.

So? She has no personal skin in the game.

She won’t pay. It will be covered by tax payers if she is sued under the $2M civil rights law in NM; the State government will be sued and tax payers foot the bill.

She won’t be criminally charged for civil rights violations.

She really can’t lose unless she doesn’t get re-elected.

[Scanker19]

TRO was just grated against her

[Clint45]

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/states/newmexico/nm.htm

CDC info on New Mexico 2021

Gun violence is a health emergency but drug overdoses are not?

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Of those firearm injury deaths, statistically half are suicides, and the other half were perpetrated by felons who were legally prohibited from carrying a firearm. Accidental deaths, police shootings, and lawful self defense shootings tend to be statistical outliers.

[Clint45]

New Mexico did away with qualified immunity in 2021. Any LE better be smart and not dare to enforce it, and their legislature should impeach her ASAP.

That is exactly why the position of Lieutenant Governor exists.

She overstepped her bounds and egregiously violated the law, which is grounds for removing her from office... I am not even sure formal impeachment would be necessary in such a case.

[brutal]

So? She has no personal skin in the game.

She won’t pay. It will be covered by tax payers if she is sued under the $2M civil rights law in NM; the State government will be sued and tax payers foot the bill.

She won’t be criminally charged for civil rights violations.

She really can’t lose unless she doesn’t get re-elected.

NM AG said he won't represent her.

[Hummer]

For your edification:

[We may learn this week who in the NM state legislature will impeach and remove, or support a tyrant.]

https://www.kob.com/new-mexico/new-mexico-lawmakers-call-for-impeachment-of-gov-michelle-lujan-grisham/#:~:text=Michelle%20Lujan%20Grisham,-Tamara%20Lopez%20%7C%20KOB&text=ALBUQUERQUE%2C%20N.M.%20%E2%80%93%20Two%20law makers%20are,to%20remove%20her%20from%20office.

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/the-governor-of-new-mexico-breaks-badly/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=featured-content-trending&utm_term=second

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxgybgEKHHI&ab_channel=CNBC