Floyd's Revenge

[eddiememphis]

https://nypost.com/2023/11/24/news/ex-cop-derek-chauvin-who-was-convicted-of-killing-george-floyd-stabbed-in-prison-report/

Who didn't see this coming?

Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin - who was convicted of murdering George Floyd - was stabbed by another inmate at a federal prison in Arizona on Friday, a source told The Associated Press.

Chauvin was seriously injured in the attack around 12:30 p.m. at Federal Correctional Institution, Tucson, the Bureau of Prisons told the outlet without naming the inmate.

Prison employees performed "life-saving measures" before Chauvin was hospitalized, the federal agency said.

[Ah Pook]

So, AZ is not far enough away that no one knows him.

From what I've seen, he is not responsible but the narrative says otherwise.

[BushMasterBoy]

He should have been placed in ADX, Florence, CO. The .gov is out of control. I would not be surprised if he gets a court order discharging him from custody. It is simply cruel and unusual punishment.

[theGinsue]

I hope that he's got a legal team working on his behalf to have his conviction vacated. As many of you already know, recently evidence that Floyd died from a drug overdose, vice anything Chauvin or the others did came to light - and was apparently known before/during the Chauvin trial by the Prosecution. But, as Ah Pook stated, this didn't meet the narrative, so... Now, I do believe, personally, that some of the actions and techniques used by Chauvin and team were excessive and inappropriate but they aren't guilty of murder.

[hurley842002]

I tired to dredge up a Chauvin thread in order to find an appropriate thread to post this documentary. Absolutely insane! Everyone needs to watch it. My apologies if it?s already been posted elsewhere, but if you aren?t doing anything tonight you need to watch it, and share with your friends.

https://youtu.be/eFPi3EigjFA?feature=shared


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[hurley842002]

He should have been placed in ADX, Florence, CO. The .gov is out of control. I would not be surprised if he gets a court order discharging him from custody. It is simply cruel and unusual punishment.

The ADX doesn?t work that way, they don?t just place people in the ADX.


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[FoxtArt]

I hope that he's got a legal team working on his behalf to have his conviction vacated. As many of you already know, recently evidence that Floyd died from a drug overdose, vice anything Chauvin or the others did came to light - and was apparently known before/during the Chauvin trial by the Prosecution. But, as Ah Pook stated, this didn't meet the narrative, so... Now, I do believe, personally, that some of the actions and techniques used by Chauvin and team were excessive and inappropriate but they aren't guilty of murder.

Unfortunately, this isn't how appeals work.

1) You have around 49 days in most jurisdictions after convictinon, +/- 30 days depending on where you live, to file your notice of appeal.

2) You have to pick your issues and fit a crazy tight word limit. If your trial had 120 major errors, you can only appeal and pick about 3 and HOPE they are errors the judges care about.

3) Then it goes to a state appeal, where like everyone else at their job, the judges just want to get their day over with and go home.

4) The case load at the state appeal is so high that on average, from the time someone cracks open your appeal to the time they write an opinion, or just affirm the judgment, is an average of about six hours. (to write a few opinions which take days means most cases have far less time than even this, you're lucky if they skim it twice)

5) If you haven't already figured out, there's STRONG motivation to "affirm" the judgment. Each panel in the Court of Appeals (any state) deals with hundreds of cases per year. Working full days, they only have time to write a very tiny number of groundbreaking opinions. They affirm somewhere between 92-97% of all judgements depending on where you live.

6) Everything else is just a race to affirm the judgment as quickly as possible so that #3 is satisfied.

7) The rate of overturning at the state appeal court is extraordinarily low. Appeals grant "discretion" to judges, which means in most appeals, any decision they make is analyzed to find any way to justify it, however extreme.

8) There's a deadline for requesting a new trial based on new evidence. Based on where you live, it's anywhere from two weeks to about half a year, at MOST. Exceed this, and you're fucked even if the prosecutor admits on their death bed, you were innocent, and they strung you up because the mob paid the prosecutor off.***

9) If the state appeal fucks your case up (and they most likely will), you can file a petition for certiorari asking permission for a state supreme court to hear your case.

10) Again, you have to narrow your issues and maybe pick 1 or 2, and have an even shorter word limit.

11) Any state supreme court receives about 1000-10,000 of such petitions a year. They grant less than one out of 20, usually more like 1 out of 50 these days. So 98% of people pleading major errors to the Supreme Court are just, ignored.

12) Even if certiorari is granted, then you still have to re-appeal it before the State supreme court subject to the same word limits, and still win, and most likely the Supreme Court will narrow your issue.

13) The Supreme Court does not actually review errors from the lower court. They only like to pick cases that are "novel" or have "undecided law". If the appeals judges rule against you because reparations should balance the scale of justice and we should arbitrarily convict majorities, If that's not a novel case (e.g., they addressed it before and published a case), you're probably fucked, even if it goes against the case law they previously published.

14) Then you have to win that appeal.

Oh, and the kicker is, any issue you appeal on needs to have first been raised in the middle of trial to be "preserved". That means, in whatever tiny slot of time they give you, you have to have successfully and perfectly made all your arguments, presented all your evidence, perfectly made every objection, and always argued with the judge all the way to being hauled off for contempt when they refuse to give you the time to do so. Anything you miss, you can never appeal.
Find new evidence, you're probably fucked.
Judge biased because you divorced his daughter? You're fucked.
Bad attorney didn't object? You're fucked.
Judge restricts a two-week trial into an hour? You're fucked - even if the court doesn't give you the time to preserve error, you failed to preserve error.

We have the judicial system of the word period of the Middle Ages, and nothing is changed. Justice is only an illusion.

98% of the time, your outcome depends on the preference of a judge who, more often than not, isn't a "normal" person with "normal" judgment, and that outcome does not change.

Appeals are a farce.

That said, I've won a decent number of them. But the average success rate for the best places is between 5-7%. That's a lot of resources wasted, and a lot of errors flatly ignored.


***Note cases you see in the media are usually not overturned based on rules or an ordinary process, usually they are vacated by independent effort of a judge themselves outside of the rules. If the judge hates you, you're often still fucked, even if obviously innocent. People have spent YEARS in jail after their innocence was proved without a shadow of a doubt.

[eddiememphis]

Bananas have appeal

[KevDen2005]

Bananas have appeal

I see what you did there

[Clint45]

Former police typically are placed in the protective custody wing instead of general population. I'm very confused as to why this was not done.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Former police typically are placed in the protective custody wing instead of general population. I'm very confused as to why this was not done.

Really? I think normal procedures were violated quite intentionally.

[hurley842002]

Former police typically are placed in the protective custody wing instead of general population. I'm very confused as to why this was not done.

He was on a PC ?yard?.


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[kidicarus13]

I tired to dredge up a Chauvin thread in order to find an appropriate thread to post this documentary. Absolutely insane! Everyone needs to watch it. My apologies if it?s already been posted elsewhere, but if you aren?t doing anything tonight you need to watch it, and share with your friends.

https://youtu.be/eFPi3EigjFA?feature=shared


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLOL [emoji38]. Ya, that video will never be shown on mainstream media.

[rondog]

I tired to dredge up a Chauvin thread in order to find an appropriate thread to post this documentary. Absolutely insane! Everyone needs to watch it. My apologies if it?s already been posted elsewhere, but if you aren?t doing anything tonight you need to watch it, and share with your friends.

https://youtu.be/eFPi3EigjFA?feature=shared


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There's a real "hero of the people" for ya.....

[eddiememphis]

What is the summary? I'm not going to spend an hour 42 watching it.

[Clint45]

What is the summary? I'm not going to spend an hour 42 watching it.

The summary is that Chauvin didn't actually seem to do anything inappropriate but was convicted of Murder anyway, and apparently denied an appeal, and now he got shanked repeatedly in custody.

The result of this is that many LEO just decided to stop using force unless absolutely required... some would probably allow someone like Mister Floyd to escape custody and flee rather than risk accusations of racism and excessive force.

This is exactly what the Marxists wanted, and now crime is out of control everywhere.

[KevDen2005]

The summary is that Chauvin didn't actually seem to do anything inappropriate but was convicted of Murder anyway, and apparently denied an appeal, and now he got shanked repeatedly in custody.

The result of this is that many LEO just decided to stop using force unless absolutely required... some would probably allow someone like Mister Floyd to escape custody and flee rather than risk accusations of racism and excessive force.

This is exactly what the Marxists wanted, and now crime is out of control everywhere.

That is a lot of time saved for me. Thank you for the summary.

[hurley842002]

I figured more folks would be interested in watching it, but I suppose that would require taking my word that it was actually worth watching, perhaps I should have put it in the what are you watching thread.

The biggest take aways I saw were as follows:

- The actual MPD defensive training manual, that specifically lists (with photographs) the ?Maximum Restrain Technique? (MRT), which is what Chauvin used on Floyd, were not allowed by Judge Cahill as evidence.

- Approximately 36 seconds after taking Floyd to the ground, bodycam footage showed officers calling for EMS (this was also not allowed to be admitted as evidence), the delay in EMS response was not due to police not calling for it, EMS went to the wrong location, and EMS admitted on bodycam to screwing up.

- Most (if not all, I?m typing from memory) of the jurors during Voir dire admitted to sympathizing with the BLM movement.

- There were several issues with autopsy reports (27 in total if I remember right.

- Chauvins attorney addressed Maxine Watters? reckless statements with protestors, and Judge Cahill merely responded with ?I instructed the jurors not to watch the news?.

There might be more that comes to mind but those are the main things that caught my eye, I?ll add more if I think of it.


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