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flogger
01-04-2024, 12:05
This just happened Tuesday in Japan. The Dash-8 was a Japan Coast Guard plane ferrying personnel to earthquake areas, it was waiting to take off. The Airbus hit it right after it touched down.

5 crew were killed in the Coast Guard plane but ALL 360 passengers escaped the burning wreckage in 90 seconds! Supposedly, this is the first total loss of a composite built airliner and questions will come up about the materials rate of burn and how well the fire was extinguished. Not to mention toxic fumes from epoxy type composites.

It's amazing that 4 people per second were evacuated from that plane, the whole thing is in flames! Link to video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NLUoAmlm0A

Hoser
01-04-2024, 12:14
Japans ATC is really solid and well done.

Big surprise how this happened.

Lots of fallout coming on this.

BushMasterBoy
01-04-2024, 16:18
Lights on the runway were inoperative. I guess there was no enhanced ground proximity warning system.

Great-Kazoo
01-04-2024, 16:40
This just happened Tuesday in Japan. The Dash-8 was a Japan Coast Guard plane ferrying personnel to earthquake areas, it was waiting to take off. The Airbus hit it right after it touched down.

5 crew were killed in the Coast Guard plane but ALL 360 passengers escaped the burning wreckage in 90 seconds! Supposedly, this is the first total loss of a composite built airliner and questions will come up about the materials rate of burn and how well the fire was extinguished. Not to mention toxic fumes from epoxy type composites.

It's amazing that 4 people per second were evacuated from that plane, the whole thing is in flames! Link to video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NLUoAmlm0A

Unlike "Americans" who are more concerned about grabbing their laptop and already oversized carry on, trying to be the first to get their video on youboob.

These folks said we're %^&* out of here, and probably in an orderly fashion. .

Material items can be replaced, Us, not so much.

Hoser
01-04-2024, 19:42
Lights on the runway were inoperative. I guess there was no enhanced ground proximity warning system.
Nope. Runway lights were on. Some lights on the taxiway were out.

Still no excuse for an aircraft to get on the runway without clearance.

Wolfshoon
01-04-2024, 21:22
Lights on the runway were inoperative. I guess there was no enhanced ground proximity warning system.

Every large commercial aircraft operated by an airline or cargo outfit will have egpws, and most certainly every military aircraft will. Detecting other aircraft is Not the function of EGPWS as its purpose is to avoid CFIT into terrain. Closest system that would be to this would be TCAS and it doesn’t do ground threats as it is attenuated at low altitude above ground level (I want to say 250’ IIRC). Most likely ,This is either a pilot or ATC error with the coast guard plane most likely causing the runway incursion.

Amazing that the crew and passengers of the A350 fared so well.

flogger
01-04-2024, 21:22
I copied this from another forum. Interesting points!
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flogger
01-04-2024, 21:40
Short video shows just how far that 350 went after the collision, good view of taxiways.


https://youtu.be/K_3tdzfjyXM

brutal
01-04-2024, 23:54
Ugh.

You can see the A350 on approach around 3:20.

I believe you can see the Dash-8 taxiing earlier in the video prior to the collision.




https://youtu.be/6NbVdIoJsHY?si=6sJUNsPkM6Ls98LC

BushMasterBoy
01-05-2024, 08:35
Nope. Runway lights were on. Some lights on the taxiway were out.

Still no excuse for an aircraft to get on the runway without clearance.
Initial report I read, said taxiway control lights were inoperative. It said Japan Coast Guard aircraft entered runway due to this. I never have been to Haneda Airport. Every airport is different. I'm sure the mishap report will explain better than the media.